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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by zuto4u(m): 7:32pm On Sep 10, 2017
What do the North really want? Disintegration NO, restructuring NO! What do you guys want. I wonder why SE, SS and SW fear these parasitic Northerners. Honestly that 1963 constitution will be extremely good because it will create room for competition for regional development and progress. Just like in UAE :Abu Dhabi is competing with Dubai, Ajman is competing with Sharjah, Um AL Qin is competing with Ras Al Kaima and so on and so forth. That is why UAE is very beautiful and developed, with job opportunities everywhere.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by mofewilkie(m): 7:59pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:


South does not include Yorubas, they are part of the NorthWest muslims.
South is the SS/SE.
Wen u stop making obvious mistake, u stop asking silly questions.


Whether you like it or not, it's called SOUTHWEST.
I am from the Niger Delta, so don't even go there...
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by brownlolly(m): 8:05pm On Sep 10, 2017
FBIL:

My Child, I don't think the comments from commuters (in a public transport) who exude ''hate'' as you call it, upon seeing the massive buildings in Onitsha would be a yardstick for judgement. Those are not the people who would decide the fate of Ijaws when the chips are down. I studied in Japan and till today, I live one leg in Nigeria and one leg in Japan. You know what, each time we gather in a pub at Tokyo to drink, we curse Japanese that they're shot, they're this, they're that. But the truth is, I prefer a Japanese to a Nigerian because they're honest, hardworking and respect your opinion and rights. They built their country for prosperity but here we are not ready to speak the truth and face reality.

I quite agree with your point about the Japs. However, it doesn't change the fact that the people of the SS and SE are different in views, culture, geographical positioning, and orientation.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by omoharry(f): 8:20pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:


Dont even mention us together. That is where u are getting it wrong.
please grow up.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by dragunov: 8:54pm On Sep 10, 2017
DickDastardLION:
Alimi Onslaught Survivors are the major Southern Problem .... they live in pepertual fear of their conqueror, hence their sabotage of every southern progress plan cool

Your comment shows the depth of your st.upidity, the shallowness of your knowledge of Yoruba history perhaps due to your lack of one and your propensity to miss the mark all the time
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by dragunov: 8:59pm On Sep 10, 2017
mofewilkie:


Whether you like it or not, it's called SOUTHWEST.

I am from the Niger Delta, so don't even go there...

The guy thinks the locations were emotionally constructed and not geographically situated.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by makoota: 9:02pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:



[b]South does not include Yorubas, they are part of the NorthWest muslims.

South is the SS/SE.

Wen u stop making obvious mistake, u stop asking silly questions. [/b]haha. As in ehh


Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by demandtruth: 9:15pm On Sep 10, 2017
hammerFU:


Until our people wake up and take the bull by the horn they will keep going from pillar to post.

Wat we have today is SS/SE being used for other region agenda.

Like u rightly said, resource control and self-governance is our paramount need.

We dont need Yorubas or their Northern brothers.

We need to be in charge of our land and be responsible. It is really dat simple.

Get bit into your head, there's nothing like SE/SS

Tell us what your SE region is or contribute to Nigeria

Stop lumping another region/people to yourself.
SS are different people with different ideology, culture and tradition.

Tell us what your SE stands for; what they have that other region
of the country enjoy.

If you write/imagine it from now till kingdom comes, there's not going
to be SS and SE.

Make your stand stop this stupid/forceful amalgamation!

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by TSO4U: 9:28pm On Sep 10, 2017
i wish going through this article once more...
learning small-small polity
grin grin grin

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by CioAngels(f): 10:10pm On Sep 10, 2017
Imagine the insult, arewa youth? You people just got to know that all your entitlements has been taken away by your elites and rather than face them, you are deceiving yourselves. It is too late to fight, hold your elites to give you what is yours that is with them. It is now clear that the arewa youths are the ones dictating to pa buhari what he should to the southerners, what a shame. Now, to my southern fathers, it is now or never, we look up to God and you people, you have started it and No going back. You people should not listen to pa obasanjo because he wants to take money on the heads of the southerners and besides he has nothing to loose. Just one thing, where is our Operation Feed Nation and others. He sold and bought so he can go with the north.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by lyricalz: 10:24pm On Sep 10, 2017
Stingman:
• 1963 Constitution, The Ideal Grundnorm – Middle Belt Ethnic Nationalities
• Going Back To 1963 Constitution Not Tenable-Arewa Youths
• Yakasai Supports Return To 1963 Constitution

Northern elders and youths have cautioned the Yoruba, their South East and South South neighbours over their clamour for the country’s restructuring, as well as return to the 1963 constitution.

The two groups, which vehemently opposed the recent resolution of the Yoruba at a summit tagged, “Restructuring: The Yoruba Agenda 2017,” alleged that sustained agitation for restructuring would, in the final analysis, not augur well for the growth and development of the nation.

Secretary General, Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) Anthony Sani, told The Guardian, yesterday, that calls for restructuring by the coalition of Yoruba groups, and those from South East and South South, as well as the return to 1960 and 1963 constitution were “puzzling.”

Arewa youths’ position was made known by President of the Arewa Youths for Progress and Development (AYPD), Comrade Danjuma Sarki, who said though “the constitution we are currently operating was hurriedly put together by the military in order for them to hand over power to civilians,” there were better ways to improve on it.

Sani said the calls were “puzzling in the sense that these are people, who profess to be jaunty face of democratic values, and who are expected to know how democracy works. I would not be tired of saying that while there are national consensus on problems of a nation, there are no similar national consensus on solutions to these problems. Hence the significance of multi-party democracy, which allows each political party to present a distinct method of solution as contained in the party’s manifesto, which it used
to canvass for electoral mandate.”

Sani argued that, “for the Yoruba to now call for restructuring of the country on the basis of the 1963 constitution, gives an impression that they do not know how to make their desires possible in a multi-party democracy.”

He maintained that, however good and laudable restructuring of the country may be, it has to be decided by Nigerians through a democratic process; no few people can make that decision on behalf of Nigerians.

“I am not sure if their restructuring is the panacea for the national malaise we are in. I say this because Nigeria practiced the confederate arrangement as symbolised by regionalism and parliamentary systems of government during the First Republic. These were abolished and supplanted by a unitary system by General Aguyi Ironsi, who felt the centre under confederation was too weak to keep the nation under one roof.”

The ACF scribe added that, “the North and the West, under Chief Awolowo decided to create a federation of 12 states, which was a compromise between confederation and the unitary system,” noting that “since then, the states multiplied to 19, 30 and now 36, while we practice presidential system of government.”

Sani, who said some of those clamouring for the rejection of the 1999 constitution that is a clone of that of 1979 participated in its making, queried how the Federal Government under 1999 constitution, prevents state governments from living to their potential?

He said: “Lagos is developing today under the 1999 constitution, and nobody has stopped them from deploying what they collect from the federation account and internally generated revenue for development at their own pace. Is the Coalition of Yoruba groups claiming state governments misapply their own allocations because the sources are not from the states? This does not make sense. And can we honestly say the 52 per cent for the centre is truly too much in a country with many centres of centrifugal forces capable of putting it asunder? As far as I am concerned, there is nothing like true federalism that is universally accepted. That is why there are no two federal systems that are the same. Each federal system depends on the circumstance of its emergence…”

On how the nation can best be restructured under the present reality, the ACF Secretary General remarked: “as it is right now, the term restructuring means different things to different people. As a result, it is hard to take a position in a situation like that. And in order for Nigerians to make their informed judgment on restructuring, let political parties that wish to restructure the country include it in its manifestoes and canvass for electoral mandate needed for their implementation. I am sure when political parties campaign for their preferred model of restructuring the country, they would help to enlighten the public more about restructuring and make informed decisions during elections. That is how democracy works. It is not for the few people to meet and try to bulldoze the government into taking decisions in favour of far-reaching reforms of the polity. That course of action would not only be undemocratic, but also morally preposterous. This is more so because the current regime did not include specific type of restructuring in its manifesto.”

Sarki, the AYPD helmsman said: “To be realistic, going back to the 1963 constitution is not tenable,” adding that the country should rather review the 1963 to 1999 constitutions. If we look at issues that will promote the unity of Nigeria and propel growth in the country, that will bring everybody together and also promote the principle of inclusion.

“But, if you say that we should go back to 1963, that will be something that will be difficult to sustain. Just like the National Assembly is on the verge of amending the constitution, we can look at areas we think should be amended and make the necessary recommendations.

“The National Assembly should also take into consideration, positions that those, who elected them want. They should ensure that the interests of all regions are covered. Something that would bring about fairness, justice, equity and acceptability of the union called Nigeria. This is because most of the agitations for restructuring are borne out of the feelings of unfairness by people. We want to advise that those who are agitating for a return to the 1963 constitution should soft pedal so that we can move forward,” Sarki said.

For the Association of Middle Belt Ethnic Nationalities (ASMBEN), that the 1963 Republican Constitution was the ideal grundnorm for the country is not a novel development, what is novel, the group said is the urgency to return to it.

According to its interim chairman, Sule Kwasau, “Nigeria is hanging on a precipice and has never been divided on ethnic and religious lines as it is now. The 1999 constitution is fraught with so many anomalies, lies. The 1999 constitution is a military constitution and in making it, the powers that be were substantially from a section of the country and so the opinions of other sections of the country were never captured, as they had no representatives in the military leadership then.

“Why are some Nigerians nostalgic about the 1963 Republican Constitution as against the 1999 military constitution? It is simply because the 1999 constitution is a military constitution, but claims to be a federal constitution,” the interim leader said.

He continued: “The provisions contained therein cannot bring about even development. Again, the presidential system is very expensive, unlike the 1963 constitution, which recognises regions as federating units, with powers to do most of what is contained in the exclusive legislative list under the 1999 constitution.

The 1963 constitution also guarantees true federalism by providing for principles of derivation, which is 50 per cent for oil producing regions. It also encourages healthy competition among the diverse regions.”

Kwasau said his group, however, prefers the implementation of 2014 National Conference Report, “but if that is not possible, then a brand new constitution should be brought into existence.

“This is important because the constitutionally unrecognised six political zones of the federating units will short-change the Middle Belters because we were arbitrarily lumped with people we do not share the same culture with, eg, Southern Kaduna, Southern Kebbi, Southern Borno etc., who naturally belong to the Middle Belt. The other solution will be to create additional regions in the North to address our fears,” he said.

Meanwhile, contrary to the position of ACF, elder statesman, Tanko Yakasai, has thrown his weight behind the call for a return of the 1963 constitution.
In an exclusive interview with The Guardian, Yakasai, however, faulted the Ibadan meeting of the Yoruba, who called for the return of the same constitution on the premise that, the meeting failed to even understand that the 1963 constitution had only four regions not six as enunciated by the document that emanated from the meeting.

“I am speaking not on behalf of anybody, but on behalf of my humble self. As I am speaking with you now, I am 100 per cent in support of the return to the 1963 constitution. We had East, Mid-West, West and Northern regions only under that constitution. Not six regions as included in the document that was passed at Ibadan meeting,” challenged Yakasai.”

He added that none of those, who attended the meeting had any mandate from his people to go and take a position on those issues that were discussed at the meeting.

“Yes, as Nigerians we are all entitled to our opinions and expressions. But you cannot represent people without their legitimate mandate. Who then mandated those people to take such decisions? Mind you, you can only have people’s mandate through popular vote, by the electorate. So, who mandated those people to take such decisions? He asked rhetorically.

“Do you know that Yoruba traditional rulers and religious leaders were not part of the organisers of that meeting? So, in that scenario how can you now come and say this position is that of the Yoruba race? It doesn’t work like this,” he said.

The presence of thugs at the meeting, Yakasai said was an indicator that the document that was produced from the meeting was “completely faulty and pre-arranged.”

On the communiqué, the elder statesman said: “You cannot raise a communique from that meeting the way it was raised. Hundreds of people cannot, in any way, reach a resolution. Mind you, a resolution is a summation of the discussions that took place during a meeting.

“When a resolution is reached, it is then that you give the resolution to a communiqué committee to come up with a communiqué. But in case of the Ibadan meeting, there was nothing like that. And because of the presence of hired thugs, nobody could raise an eyebrow there,” Yakasai alleged.


http://guardian.ng/news/north-cautions-yoruba-southerners-on-clamour-for-1963-constitution/

so only the north has the monopoly of the power to decide what happens to all other Nigerians huh?
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by TheFreeOne: 10:44pm On Sep 10, 2017
Why do some south easterners / south southerners harbour hatred against the SW? We aren't the source of your misfortunes and until you up your ante of intelligence in political/economic decisions you will continue to blame imaginary enemies where there are none.

Blaming us won't improve your political fortunes until you all realised the need for southern unity to dismantle northern hegemony.

And for Tanko and those trying to be smart by half in castigating 60s constitutions. What Yoruba leaders are saying is ....there is fairness and justice in those constitutions than the present fraudulent contraption by the military and it should be a template for a better Nigeria for all if we must stay together.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by tollyboy5(m): 10:45pm On Sep 10, 2017
you can see you are on your own I'm a Lagos indigene and I'm in support of any movement for restructuring I'm surprise may be you chatting from Sudan. every lagos indigene I meet want restructuring including the governor so I don't know you. and if you live in kwara you are free to park your things to North
lawal103
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by ebosed: 12:34am On Sep 11, 2017
Stingman:
The SW, SE, SS and Middle belt regions want to change the constitution. The core north wants the status quo...

What does this tell other Nigerians?
Who are the parasites now?
Was this why Gideon Orka wanted to remove the core North from the remaining part of Nigeria?

Time will tell.

These were abolished and supplanted by a unitary system by General Aguyi Ironsi, who felt the centre under confederation was too weak to keep the nation under one roof.”
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by ofwest47(m): 12:43am On Sep 11, 2017
Beware the " The Ides of March! the ides of march are come! but not gone." Shakespeare Julius Caesar.
The part of the North which are not supporting restructuring should beware of the consequence of their action. Considering the number ethnic groups supporting restructuring starting from the Benue /Plateau to Kogi and Kwara region down to the Southwest, Southeast and the South_South for the remaining minority Northern area to now say NO, the resultant effect will not augur well for the country called Nigeria. Let's take it or leave it the country for now still depend more than 85% on petroleum resources the consequence of what happened in the Niger Delta when Buhari came in is a lesson to be learnt. The resultant effect is the issue of recession we have been facing in about the last two years and it will be a child play to what will happen in 2019 if less than 30% of the remaining part of the country are still not in tune with restructuring .
I am even in doubt if there will be 2019 if the issue of restructuring is not resolved favourably by 2018.
Last warning, let the anti restructuring minority group "BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH"
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by spinna: 12:56am On Sep 11, 2017
Hausa let the "fowa" be balanced so that we can have peace and unity in Nigeria. Your teeming masses will benefit too. Leave Politics of domination. Lets make Nigeria work so that Africa can work.
Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by okenta2017: 5:42am On Sep 11, 2017
Is it not timer the South bury their differences and get things done for once.( for justice to all). I want to see a summit of SE, SS and SW.
This will make the NW and NE to understand that we mean business and the present status quo can not be sustain.

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Re: North Cautions Yoruba, Southerners On Clamour For 1963 Constitution by Jetjacky(m): 11:19am On Sep 11, 2017
Stingman:
The SW, SE, SS and Middle belt regions want to change the constitution. The core north wants the status quo...

What does this tell other Nigerians?
Who are the parasites now?
Was this why Gideon Orka wanted to remove the core North from the remaining part of Nigeria?

Time will tell.
time is already telling.

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