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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:20pm On Sep 19, 2017
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TonyeBarcanista:

The Spokesman never DECLARED IPOB terrorists in his statement, he only have military pronouncement. Of course, Newspapers will give sensational headlines to attract readership
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Shatap

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:20pm On Sep 19, 2017
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GoroTango:
Shut up. Nnamdi Kanu is a terrorist and IPOB is a terrorist organization. When we catch him eh
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Tinubu is a bastard
Osibanjo is a vagabond
awolowo is a rat poison king
abiola of cursed memory is a rifraf
kiss the truth
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by months: 1:21pm On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista




Yesterday in Abakiliki, Ebonyi state, General Tukur Buratai the Chief of Army Staff made a statement on the pronouncement declaration of Indigenous Peoples of Biafra as a terrorist organization. He said in quote



Two key words in the first paragraph was used by General Buratai while clarifying the position of the Military, they are "pronouncement" and "declaration", while In the second paragraph he mentioned creating "public awareness".

What Does Buratai Really Mean
The COAS is simply saying that we did not declare IPOB a terrorist organization, perhaps because of the provisions of the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011 (as amended) but the military sees them as terrorists and has pronounced that they will be approached with the way terrorists are. The military by the pronouncement is telling members of the public (government, citizens, international community, Opposition, supporters etc) that IPOB is a terrorist organization by their conduct.


What Did The Defence Headquarters Really Say?


In the first paragraph they first debunked the notion that IPOB is nonviolent, in the second paragraph they brought the attention of the public to it, in the succeeding paragraph they listed reasons as to why IPOB should be seen as a terrorist organization and they confirmed their assertion in the last paragraph.

The military is simply saying: "after analysing the activities of IPOB, the Military can confirm them to be terrorist organization. We urge the public to be aware of this".

Did The Military Act Out of Order
Absolutely No in my opinion!

What the Military has done is what some of us previously pronounced, which is; "IPOB is a terrorist organization judging by their conducts". Cest fini!

The pronouncement by the military nonetheless does not replace an official declaration by the group as terrorist organization according to the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act 2011, but it has set a motion for the government to do the needful by following the procedure of the law.

Permit me to add that the case of IPOB is similar to that of Boko Haram where though the military sees them and approached them as terrorists since they started unleash terror in 2009, but were only officially designated a "Terrorist Group" in June 2013. That doesn't mean they were non terrorists prior to the time of declaration.

Will Terrorism Charge Be Added To Kanu When Rearrested
Most likely!

Let it be stated that though IPOB is yet to be gazetted a terrorist organization, it doesn't stop the government from prosecuting Nnamdi Kanu and other arrested IPOB members for engaging in terrorism in Accordance with Section 2 of the Antiterrorism (Protection) Act. However, he may not be be charged for belonging to a terrorist organization. Remember that Henry Okah of MEND is currently facing charge of terrorism for October 1, 2010 bombing in his capacity as Charles Okah even though his group is not designated a terrorist organization.

Why We Can't/Shouldn't Condone The Atrocities of IPOB
They burnt down mosques, some people looked the other way because they are not Muslims. They attacked Hausa/Northern community in Oyigbo and Aba, some people looked the other way because they are not from the north. We saw a video where they mounted road block on a highway, burning trucks and were for Hausa/Northerners to kill in Aba, some people chose to look the other way because it doesn't concern them. They burnt police station and allegedly killed policemen/snatched rifle, again some still looked the other way.

Some say they were provoked by the Army, but why not take on the army instead of soft unsuspecting targets? Nigerians should learn from history and see the pattern in which terrorists emerge. I am sure that some people from the northeast will be biting their fingers by now for initially seeing the war against Boko Haram as war against their region/zone. This is because the region is in terrible mess today, unfit for any serious investment and people still live with one eye open and in fear due to series of suicide bombings.

Remember, Boko Haram started off as "nonviolent" group that wants total Shari'a in the North in 2001, in 2009 they attacked security forces and government establishment, they progressed to bombing and attack on churches sparing the mosques, then they moved to markets, then to MOSQUES and Muslim communities, then assassination of clerics (irrespective of the faith) and now all Christians, Muslims, Pagans, Atheist, Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw etc are enemies of Boko Haram.

Those of us from the Niger Delta can attest the "unreported" atrocities of these so-called Niger Delta militants against locals and how some of them are feared like demigods (I won't mention names for safety reasons).

I want to urge Nigerians irrespective of ethnic group or political leaning to stop supporting actions that threatens national security, especially as it regards lives and properties.

Nigeria masses should understand that power intoxicate and if a group of people see that they have the support of the people to engage in act of terror/violence, they will sooner than later turn against same people that cheer them, causing a lot of terrible damage.

Finally, we are all marginalized, we all have our aspirations as a group irrespective of whether it's secession, restructuring or maintenance of status quo, but one thing we must always ensure that we refuse to allow any individual or group to hijack and manipulate our noble aspirations for their political and financial benefit. We also must be nonviolent in words and in action IF WE REALLY want the world to take us serious like they did Kosovo in 2008, Scotland in 2013 and just of recent Catalans.





May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria



Nnamdi Kanu is dead.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:22pm On Sep 19, 2017
intruxive:
I am a usual critique of urs on some issues. But on this u r totally spot on, although the ppl who we are all trying to save seem in a hurry to commit mass suicide
At this point they are like dogs bent on getting lost, all the igbo guys in the north now live in perpetual fear orchestrated by this terrorist with a sole aim of having them all killed, if only he can get pictures to send to UN.
Now the north ignores the provocation, albeit for the time been. And I know kanu will aim to kill more northerners to force retaliation on his ppl (which has been his game plan all along)
And this same ppl come here typing nonsense about "peaceful" like they know the meaning of the word
Exactly!!!

You see these Kanu trolls are emotionally down and lack cognitive thinking.

Meanwhile, I bet Kanu will never show up again as he knows what awaits him

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:22pm On Sep 19, 2017
months:

Nnamdi Kanu is dead.
His Corpse shall pay for his terroristic acts
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by IkpuMmiri(f): 1:25pm On Sep 19, 2017
lalasticlala This is frontpage material
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:27pm On Sep 19, 2017
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TonyeBarcanista:
His Corpse shall pay for his terroristic acts
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just like ozu mma i
nairaland beggars everywhere

cc
Whynotthetruth
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by intruxive(m): 1:28pm On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

Exactly!!!

You see these Kanu trolls are emotionally down and lack cognitive thinking.

Meanwhile, I bet Kanu will never show up again as he knows what awaits him

Like most mmm victims who cursed and insulted anyone who offered any advice to them b4 the crash, nothing could hv saved these guys from the dooms day.
Yet buhari that they hate so much stepped in to rescue them from destruction but like a child saved from fire, all we hear is wailing and crying for not letting them self destroy
If not for innocent victims (especially from other tribes)
I could hv just supported letting them feel a litle of what they are drumming for, b4 soldiers step in
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by months: 1:28pm On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
His Corpse shall pay for his terroristic acts

The Army took his corpse alongside 22 others that was in his house on the day of their attack.

Men, Women, Children, Grannies and Babies.

Now dat Kanu is gone, is Biafra over or is the government buying time for oil to finally lose all value?

Be sincere to urself, are we one, does the man from Sokoto value ur friendship to a man from Mali or Niger.

They only created vacancy for another group to emerge.

After Alqaeda came Islamic State, wateva is coming after IPOB is vengence, they will not talk 4 one day.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:29pm On Sep 19, 2017
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TonyeBarcanista:

Exactly!!!

You see these Kanu trolls are emotionally down and lack cognitive thinking.

Meanwhile, I bet Kanu will never show up again as he knows what awaits him
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why you're an emotionally recognition seeker
btw
tell your new recruits why you deactivated your former nairaland moniker barcanista cheesy

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:31pm On Sep 19, 2017
intruxive:


Like most mmm victims who cursed and insulted anyone who offered any advice to them b4 the crash, nothing could hv saved these guys from the dooms day.
Yet buhari that they hate so much stepped in to rescue them from destruction but like a child saved from fire, all we hear is wailing and crying for not letting them self destroy
Well if they want doom they should go meet the Army but we won't give them any chance to create turmoil in the country

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:35pm On Sep 19, 2017
months:


The Army took his corpse alongside 22 others that was in his house on the day of their attack.

Men, Women, Children, Grannies and Babies.

Now dat Kanu is gone, is Biafra over or is the government buying time for oil to finally lose all value?

Be sincere to urself, are we one, does the man from Sokoto value ur friendship to a man from Mali or Niger.

They only created vacancy for another group to emerge.

After Alqaeda came Islamic State, wateva is coming after IPOB is vengence, they will not talk 4 one day.


You don't get it..

Tonye is not against Biafra agitation but against IPOB and Kanu.

Kanu and his IPOB aren't proBiafrans (despite their manipulation of Biafra apologists), they are terrorists and businessmen just like Ralph Uwazurike of MASSOB.

But Kanu employed hate, incite, threat to violence, violence, fraud and terrorism.

Anybody may lead Biafra agitation but do it within the tenet of the law and international dictate
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by NCP: 1:35pm On Sep 19, 2017
BMZK:



Your reasoning is based on logic and facts. Unfortunately you are mostly dealing with illogical and non reasonable people.
They will never understand you.

Nice one brother.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by intruxive(m): 1:36pm On Sep 19, 2017
UduMgbo1:
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why you're an emotionally recognition seeker
btw
tell your new recruits why you deactivated your former nairaland moniker barcanista cheesy
Only a wise man knows when to change opinion. But the foolish ones will keep holding on until they perish.

Its only wise and intelligent people that can change from a course they have stopped believing in and seek another, but foolish ppl (the ones from the east) will hold on to a pre 2015 election vendetta despite the fact that all the major actors have moved on.
Make una sacrifice una entire tribe because jonathan loose election o, onugo
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:39pm On Sep 19, 2017
intruxive:

Only a wise man knows when to change opinion. But the foolish ones will keep holding on until they perish.

Its only wise and intelligent people that can change from a course they have stopped believing in and seek another, but foolish ppl (the ones from the east) will hold on to a pre 2014 election vendetta despite the fact that all the major actors have moved on.
Make una sacrifice una entire tribe because jonathan loose election o, onugo
"It is waste of time to speak wisdom to the ears of a fool"



You need not waste your strength on the troll...

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by FTrebirth(m): 1:39pm On Sep 19, 2017
the octoPUSSYfied barcanista chanting for the northerners and APC now. who knows how much they bribed him this time.

this guy claims he's from rivers state, though, and no one has bothered asking what part.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by Nightwolf1: 1:43pm On Sep 19, 2017
How exactly is pronouncement different from declaration? why do we have to contend with foolish people everyday on nairaland?

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:51pm On Sep 19, 2017
Nightwolf1:
How exactly is pronouncement different from declaration? why do we have to contend with foolish people everyday on nairaland?
It's the difference between a suspect/accused robber and a convicted one.


What makes the difference? THE COURT
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by 1nigeriamyfoot: 1:53pm On Sep 19, 2017
sarrki:

grin do well to save tonyebarcanista soul. he needs this BMC job than you think. grin grin grin

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:54pm On Sep 19, 2017
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TonyeBarcanista:

It's the difference between a suspect/accused robber and a convicted one.


What makes the difference? THE COURT
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claptrap

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:55pm On Sep 19, 2017
[s]
TonyeBarcanista:
"It is waste of time to speak wisdom to the ears of a fool"



You need not waste your strength on the troll...
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yeah it's a waste of time for a loafer posting on Nairaland without payment
ask seun

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:55pm On Sep 19, 2017
[s]
TonyeBarcanista:

You don't get it..

Tonye is not against Biafra agitation but against IPOB and Kanu.

Kanu and his IPOB aren't proBiafrans (despite their manipulation of Biafra apologists), they are terrorists and businessmen just like Ralph Uwazurike of MASSOB.

But Kanu employed hate, incite, threat to violence, violence, fraud and terrorism.

Anybody may lead Biafra agitation but do it within the tenet of the law and international dictate
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shatap there and get out

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by FTrebirth(m): 1:56pm On Sep 19, 2017
UduMgbo1:
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Shatap
stop canceling his posts. people would interpret it as "painment".

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:56pm On Sep 19, 2017
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TonyeBarcanista:

Well if they want doom they should go meet the Army but we won't give them any chance to create turmoil in the country
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trash trash trash

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:57pm On Sep 19, 2017
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FTrebirth:
stop canceling his posts. people would interpret it as "painment".
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he's talking trash so technically sane people don't read trash

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by UduMgbo1: 1:57pm On Sep 19, 2017
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intruxive:

Only a wise man knows when to change opinion. But the foolish ones will keep holding on until they perish.

Its only wise and intelligent people that can change from a course they have stopped believing in and seek another, but foolish ppl (the ones from the east) will hold on to a pre 2015 election vendetta despite the fact that all the major actors have moved on.
Make una sacrifice una entire tribe because jonathan loose election o, onugo
[/s]
Shatap
what's this one saying?

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by months: 2:01pm On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

You don't get it..

Tonye is not against Biafra agitation but against IPOB and Kanu.

Kanu and his IPOB aren't proBiafrans (despite their manipulation of Biafra apologists), they are terrorists and businessmen just like Ralph Uwazurike of MASSOB.

But Kanu employed hate, incite, threat to violence, violence, fraud and terrorism.

Anybody may lead Biafra agitation but do it within the tenet of the law and international dictate

Ask urself are Biafrans breaking away from Nigeria becos of Love?

Wen an armed group starts to bomb and attack indiscriminately wat will u say then?

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by FTrebirth(m): 2:02pm On Sep 19, 2017
UduMgbo1:
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he's talking trash so technically sane people don't read trash
you have a problem...






with yourself.
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by Nightwolf1: 2:03pm On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

It's the difference between a suspect/accused robber and a convicted one.


What makes the difference? THE COURT

Then we should consult our dictionary to avoid been technical.

Pronouncement :
Noun : the act of pronouncing; a declaration ; a formal announcement.

Now what's the difference?

Ur analogy above didn't cut in.

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Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 2:05pm On Sep 19, 2017
Nightwolf1:


Then we should consult our dictionary to avoid been technical.

Pronouncement :
Noun : the act of pronouncing; a declaration ; a formal announcement.

Now what's the difference?

Ur analogy above didn't cut in.
The emboldened makes the difference Sir! The court makes it a Nigeria Proclamation

No two words are the same in English language, they are at best synonymous.
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by TonyeBarcanista(m): 2:07pm On Sep 19, 2017
months:


Ask urself are Biafrans breaking away from Nigeria becos of Love?

Wen an armed group starts to bomb and attack indiscriminately wat will u say then?
Whoever want to breakaway should do in peace without causing problems for innocent citizens

And whoever wants to engage in bombing spree should go ahead.
Re: The Pronouncement [Not Declaration] Of IPOB As Terrorists By The Military by months: 2:10pm On Sep 19, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:

Whoever want to breakaway should do in peace without causing problems for innocent citizens

And whoever wants to engage in bombing spree should go ahead.

whoever u said? u did not mention Ojukwu or Kanu anymore, now it is whoever?



“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." [Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]” ― John F. Kennedy.

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