jalether:

Spot on, Zidane is overrated, some people will have you believe he is the greatest thing since slice bread.

Over the last 2 decade, 3 players really stood out for me- Ronaldo lima, Ronaldinho and Maldinni.

chic2pimp:

For Real
I won't argue with your choice of Maldini and Ronaldo but Ronaldinho, surely not.

dayokanu:

I am shocked. Beyond words.

Zidane overrated? Mo GBE!!!!

I am crying right now. The god of soccer "SUSU" overrated?

Only Ronaldo comes close. Look at it. Before Zidane there was no France(They didnt qualify for US 94), Zidane came on scene EURO 96 semi, France 98 winners, EURO 2000 winners, Japan Korea-Zidane Injured (2002) they couldnt score a goal, After Zidane, They came last in their groups. Zidane retired momentarily, They couldnt beat Faroe Island, Israel and co. Zidane came back they got to the world cup finals.

For someone who scored the best goal in the CL finals.

Tell me any player who has won local leagues, CL, World cup, Euro cup, Ballon D'or and multiple WPOTY and they call this guy overrated.

If this were to be in the days of Napoleon, Nothing sure for you pass Guillotine

dayokanu:

I am shocked. Beyond words.

Zidane overrated? Mo GBE!!!!

I am crying right now. The god of soccer "SUSU" overrated?

Only Ronaldo comes close. Look at it. Before Zidane there was no France(They didnt qualify for US 94), Zidane came on scene EURO 96 semi, France 98 winners, EURO 2000 winners, Japan Korea-Zidane Injured (2002) they couldnt score a goal, After Zidane, They came last in their groups. Zidane retired momentarily, They couldnt beat Faroe Island, Israel and co. Zidane came back they got to the world cup finals.

For someone who scored the best goal in the CL finals.

Tell me any player who has won local leagues, CL, World cup, Euro cup, Ballon D'or and multiple WPOTY and they call this guy overrated.

If this were to be in the days of Napoleon, Nothing sure for you pass Guillotine

jalether:

You have only attacked my post without giving a substantial( if any reason at all) for your position in regards to Zidane vs ronaldinho

How is Zidane better than Ronnie

v3:

And here i am thinking i needed glasses when i first saw Jayleathers post.

chic2pimp:

Whilst Zidane/Ronaldo have consistently performed well for both Both Clubs and country Ronaldinho hasn't.

At France 86- the success of the team should be attributed to the team, it was a collective display from france with the likes of Desailly, Barthez (the torny's

best keeper), Thuram, Lizarazu, Deschamps, Henry et al, they were all amazing. same as euro 2000

some people dub Zidane as the god of footie, let's calm that sh1t down a notch, that's all I'm saying.

Between 2002-2006 Ronnie was excellent for both club and country. he may have fallen off a bit, but he was exceptional at the peak of his career

I refuse to succumb to the Zidane hype. he is not better than Ronnie. period

jalether:

Between 2002-2006 Ronnie was excellent for both club and country. he may have fallen off a bit, but he was exceptional at the peak of his career

I refuse to succumb to the Zidane hype. he is not better than Ronnie. period

I think you are just trying too hard to be controversial, Zizou deserves every mention he gets.

dayokanu:

First of all, which one be France 86? Is that a paralympic event?

Simple question, When only Zidane was injured in 2002, why cant all these players score at least one goal vs Uruguay and Senegal?

What did Ronaldinho do for country between 2002 and 2006? 2002 World cup, I can easily mention 4 players better than Dinho in Brazil, 2006 world cup He was the major flop of the tournament

mystikal:

I think you are just trying too hard to be controversial, Zizou deserves every mention he gets.

chic2pimp:

Fair enough you see it as hype while I see it as substance.
A good example of a player that get's more hype than he deserves is Ibra not Zizou.


Also from the years 2002-2006, Dinho was excellent for Club but not country.

P:S I agree with you Ronaldinho's peak of 2002-2006 was better than what Zizou ever had however Zidane played in the much tougher league

dayokanu:

Jalether,

Tell us about Dinhos brilliant performance for Brazil like you claimed between 2002 and 2006.

Ronaldinhos years were 2004-2006

BlueDiva:

I take it you need a debate, something to discuss?

That's the only logical reason for disrespecting the sacred name of Zizou.

dayokanu:

Ronaldinho was not in the top 3 performers of 2002 world cup and he was in the top 3 flops of 2006

2002 world cup players of the Tournament

1) Oliver Kahn
2) Ronaldo
3) Hyong yung Bo

4 and 5 would go to Rivaldo and Ballack so where is Dinho?

jalether:

Don't you find this a bit contradictory

dayokanu:

Ronaldinho was not in the top 3 performers of 2002 world cup and he was in the top 3 flops of 2006


2002 world cup players of the Tournament

1) Oliver Kahn
2) Ronaldo
3) Hyong yung Bo

4 and 5 would go to Rivaldo and Ballack so where is Dinho?

chic2pimp:

How so?
Ronaldinho had a better peak period but it was aided by the fact he played in a softer league.
Or do you want to compare La Liga's defences to their Serie A counterparts(especially in the 1990's/early 2000's)?

jalether:

fair point, however Zidane played in  la liga as well and I dare say he had a better career (performance wise) at Juve

the fact that ronnie outperformed zidane in la liga, more significantly, in the galatico era when zidane was sorrounded by

other world class players, should tell you something.

I no blind, and no matter the number of
accolades or stats. anyone brings. It is
clear to see, Ronaldinho is more talented
than Zidane.

I'm in agreement with you in that Zidane's performance can sometimes be overstated(for example Ballack had the better game in the 2002 champs lge final) however that is not to say he is overerrated.

Ronaldinho was/is more talented. the guy sabi every technique perfectly. plus he still has it

Ronaldinho is his prime was eye catching just like Okocha. Zidane was a better footballer.
Greater IQ and everything.

Zidane doesnt waste effort dribbing ppl when a simple pass would suffice. He wont snakebite when a straight shot is needed. He wont bicycle kick when a simple header was needed.