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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by zoeshalom(m): 9:54am On Oct 11
tintingz:
Sorry, the Bible favor men than women, the discrimination in the Bible against women is alarming, I don't see the Bible as any source of morality, it might be to you but not to me.
Does your rationality stem from a vacuum or you are just plain disgusted by the Bible? Climes that even claim to have an issue with the man being the head, subtly affirms in contradiction.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 10:01am On Oct 11
muyinet:


So being a head of the home is now a function of the size of the pocket? This is a wasted generation...just imagine how warped your thinking/reasoning is...it's sickening to say the least.
So what is the quality of being the head of a home? And don't tell me it is ordain by God.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 10:06am On Oct 11
eelipumpin:

From your point of view, you see marriage as a struggle for breadwinning right. A deep truth that very few people understand is this : Finance is never the head of anything.
Its an arm - a tool. Just like the CBN governor can never be the head of Nigeria, Finance can never successfully rule a home. Religiously, traditionally, liberally and right from the inception of life, theres been a clear devolution of authority in marriage... Not even money can change it. it can only give the arrogant woman an illusion.
A CBN governor is the head of the banking sector, heading workers, if he doesn't do his responsibility as the leader, will he be re-appointed?

These are just analogy except you don't know what analogy means.

So why not tell me the quality of the head of the home?
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 10:10am On Oct 11
zoeshalom:
Does your rationality stem from a vacuum or you are just plain disgusted by the Bible? Climes that even claim to have an issue with the man being the head, subtly affirms in contradiction.

Yes I'm disgusted by many Bible words, teaching, stories. Imagine the Bible ordered girls, daughters to be sold as slaves. What kind of moral is that?
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tartarus(m): 10:18am On Oct 11
Any man that can't provide shouldn't be termed "head of the home". What makes a man "head of the home??" , Just cos we have dicks??. Never bring religion to an intelligent conversation. The fact your Bible says a man is the head doesn't mean everyone confirms to that!. If you can't provide you're no head!! undecided

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by dane15: 10:33am On Oct 11
tintingz:
You used logic here but it has some flaws.

# Women express their emotion than men yes it is true, men tends to be logical yes it is true, logic and emotions work hands to hands, logic without emotion is that one a human? Emotion without logic is that one wise? We just have to balance it.

# Secondly, you are talking as if woman can't handle things rationally, that's fallacy in my side, we have a lot of intelligent women as CEOs, boss, managers heading companies and workers, she won't be in that post if she doesn't apply logic, and the double standard is people are quick to bash a woman if she doesn't show soft emotions in dealing with things, she will be term an angry boss lady and if she's soft she will term weak.

# If a woman can be a boss in a business what stops her from being the head if she's the provider? We're not in BC or AD or 60s we are in 21 century and things have evolve. I dont subcribe to the headiship stuff, so ofcos a leader is needed, most men are ready to take up the leadership role in a home but what happens if he cant do his duty and the wife is the one doing it, can she be called the head or leader? Women of today even do double duties than men, I applaud those women.

I was expecting this from you. Loolz.

Let me respond to you analytically.

1. # Women express their emotion than men yes it is true, men tends to be logical yes it is true, logic and emotions work hands to hands, logic without emotion is that one a human? Emotion without logic is that one wise? We just have to balance it.

See what I wrote in my original post: The woman's strength is in the area of welfare management. Try keeping babies with a man for one day and you will see what I mean. This is not to say there are no exceptions. Home making comes easily to them because their natural configuration suits it. Then they can contribute their extra emotional flavour to the final decision making process which now brings a balance and stability to the home.

2. # Secondly, you are talking as if woman can't handle things rationally, that's fallacy in my side, we have a lot of intelligent women as CEOs, boss, managers heading companies and workers, she won't be in that post if she doesn't apply logic, and the double standard is people are quick to bash a woman if she doesn't show soft emotions in dealing with things, she will be term an angry boss lady and if she's soft she will term weak.


If you read what I posted through and through, I mentioned that there are exceptions. There are men that are even more emotional than women and there are women that are logical to a fault but overall, the results for logicality are skewed in favor of the men. Just use google and statistical results.

3. # If a woman can be a boss in a business what stops her from being the head if she's the provider? We're not in BC or AD or 60s we are in 21 century and things have evolve. I dont subcribe to the headiship stuff, so ofcos a leader is needed, most men are ready to take up the leadership role in a home but what happens if he cant do his duty and the wife is the one doing it, can she be called the head or leader? Women of today even do double duties than men, I applaud those women.

The key principles of survival have not changed whether in BC or AD or 60s. Who leads is the function of the kind of challenges that you are mostly faced with in life. Key challenges in life mostly require logic over emotion. Don't be in a hurry to respond to the bolded. Think it through over and over again.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 10:34am On Oct 11
tartarus:
Any man that can't provide shouldn't be termed "head of the home". What makes a man "head of the home??" , Just cos we have dicks??. Never bring religion to an intelligent conversation. The fact your Bible says a man is the head doesn't mean everyone confirms to that!. If you can't provide you're no head!! undecided
Thank you!

Now this is someone who sees the logic part.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Daeylar(f): 10:57am On Oct 11
Caprigal:

Women create topics only that if they create a topic defending themselves or saying how they deserve to be equal human beings, men will come in their hundreds to insult them or tell them they will grow old and die alone because of their feminism.
The only time they don't get attacked is if they post something saying how men are so great and superior to women like what alexialīn posted on page one.

You know them well grin

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Sparkles003(f): 10:57am On Oct 11
alexialin:
No.

The man is the head of the home, irrespective of the wife taking care of the bills.

For me, as long as he's responsible in character and have seen how hard he tries to break thru. Then why not? He's the head, whether I spend my hard earned money on him or not.

But in Jesus name, the man I will marry will have more money than me amen.

I understand some men lost their job and their wife took/take up the responsibilities but what happens when the wife is the one keep doing it for years, no positive move from the husband?
How can he make a breakthrough when in the op words,he is not making any positive move.

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 11:00am On Oct 11
dane15:


I was expecting this from you. Loolz.


See what I wrote in my original post: The woman's strength is in the area of welfare management. Try keeping babies with a man for one day and you will see what I mean. This is not to say there are no exceptions. Home making comes easily to them because their natural configuration suits it. Then they can contribute their extra emotional flavour to the final decision making process which now brings a balance and stability to the home.
Lol, home making suit them is not because of natural configuration but taught (sociocultural), are you saying if a man was taught how to keep a home it won't suit him or good at it? Queen Elizabeth was a leader throughout her life, can we say she knows how to keep a home like our traditional wives?


If you read what I posted through and through, I mentioned that there are exceptions. There are men that are even more emotional than women and there are women that are logical to a fault but overall, the results for logicality are skewed in favor of the men. Just use google and statistical results.
I agree men make use of logic than women, but we now have many women making use of logic but unfortunately such women are seen has angry boss lady because she's "feminine" and our patriarch society wants her to be weak and silent.


The key principles of survival have not changed whether in BC or AD or 60s. Who leads is the function of the kind of challenges that you are mostly faced with in life. Key challenges in life mostly require logic over emotion. Don't be in a hurry to respond to the bolded. Think it through over and over again.
Yes logic play more role in dealing with things, making use of emotions will only result to bias and sentiment, but in this era like have said women are now working as managers, boss, CEOs, in fact women are becoming the provider of the home, are we saying they are not applying logic? Women are not dumb like what people think, because they express their emotion more than men doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing. Study shows men are more depressed than women because they caged their emotions, the reason men die early than women.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 11:08am On Oct 11
Sparkles003:


I understand some men lost their job and their wife took/take up the responsibilities but what happens when the wife is the one keep doing it for years, no positive move from the husband?
How can he make a breakthrough when in the op words,he is not making any positive move.
I guess she didn't see the exception.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Nobody: 11:26am On Oct 11
tintingz:
If the wife does not cook is she the wife of the home?

I have realized that the duty of the wife is more than the husband that is if the wife works and contribute to the home.

Husband(Africa) = works

Wife = works, cook, build the home.

To me the woman is the head of the home here, she might not know but she is currently the one, she is the one doing the duty and quality of the position(head of the home), every other thing she is doing is her tolerance which i will applaud her.

In logical sense he is not.

Okay.....You are a lady!!!

LOL

I sweating as I am typing this, not because I am not a man but because I am afraid of coming across people like you.

Are you saying that the day the "man of the house" comes home and say "Honey, I just lost my job" is the day He relinquish all power, substance and dignity to his wife?

Are you saying relationships (and marriages) is a competition? A competition where whoever earns more is the breadwinner?

Plus what is your definition of a breadwinner? Is it in a bread context because I am confused.

I was in an RCCG church somewhere out of the country sometime last year, the topic of discussion was "Is the responsibility of the wife to cook?" 80% of the men thought it wasn't, then it hit me. Poor people stress about too many things. Insecurity somewhere on top of that long list.

Relationships ain't a competition, as a man I will try my best to be the best I can everyday but if somehow my woman ends up higher than I am, I won't stress. in fact, I will support her in every way I can.

A husband and wife should be friends first then lovers. You can't control your friend around simply because you earn more than him/her. It makes no sense.

My GF earns about 4X my salary. Trust me, I am not bothered cheesy

She's beginning to treat me like I am broke, and every time I remind her I earn about 10X minimum wage! So no I'm not broke.

I still pay the bills when we go out, still comfortably afford "expensive" gifts on special occasions. Still pay my rent, still cater for every of my responsibilities.

If the relationship was to be marriage, I'd be damned if I have to relinquish my substance. That'd sadly be the case if it were to be you though.

So OP, outgrow your "poor man" mentality. That you have some change now doesn't give you the right to start questioning why you can't be the decision power house.

Please sit down and be humble, a marriage is not a race.

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by alexialin: 11:28am On Oct 11
Sparkles003:


I understand some men lost their job and their wife took/take up the responsibilities but what happens when the wife is the one keep doing it for years, no positive move from the husband?
How can he make a breakthrough when in the op words,he is not making any positive move.




Such a man needs counseling from someone he respects and admires. Who is successful financially. Almost Everybody has someone they admire and wish they were like that person.
If the wife can move an extra mile and arrange a surprise meeting between her husband and this person her husband's admires, possibly a dinner arrangement or something.

First her husband will be delightful surprise to this man he admires and staring smiling at him face to face. You can imagine the joy and light that will shine from his eyes. He's now alert mentally and ready to listen to anything and make amends.

But before then, the wife must have shared her challenges at home with this person, be it family or friend or even a stranger.. Oh yes a stranger. And all she needs is that singular help from this person to advise her husband by sharing his own life struggles and how he got to where he is.

So, wife seat down, think, go down Memory Lane and figure out successful working men, her husband admires and wish he could be like.

Life is all about building relationships, we can't rule such out. Especially healthy relationships.

In courtship, and transgressing into getting married, both couples are meant to know each likes and dislikes, dreams and aspirations, people we look up to, in the family, amongst work colleagues, and anywhere in the world. Both partners are meant to know each other to such level. But these days, all couples care about is how. Much are u making ,who are your parents and how good in bed are u? That's all.
Which not the ideal foundation for a successful marriage to thrive on.

If both couples know themselves intellectually, inside out? When issues like this crops up? And discussing it cant solve the problem? Then bring in someone your spouse admires to gist and talk with him, and with u around as well.
Just like a get together kind of thing. It helps.

Life has its ups and downs. Good moments and bad moments . The way the bad moments are quickly handled shows how long it will linger on, or how quickly solutions will be proffered to cut it short or make it manageable to handle until the bad moment disappears completely.


Then.,
Nagging doesn't help

Insulting each other doesn't help.

Making him feel less of a man only worsens the situation.

Infact negative actions do not help at all, it only makes him delve further into shutting off himself from the wife and the home.
That's how I see it.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by eelipumpin: 11:28am On Oct 11
tintingz:
A CBN governor is the head of the banking sector, heading workers, if he doesn't do his responsibility as the leader, will he be re-appointed?

These are just analogy except you don't know what analogy means.

So why not tell me the quality of the head of the home?
your structure of marriage seems narrow. So if a child takes care of his father and mother, does he automatically become the head of that family? Marriage is not like every other institution. not like CBN , or a Political office. The sun shines, the rain falls, man gets married- For companionship, for help, for procreation and fulfilling other life's purpose as a rock called Family.

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Nobody: 11:32am On Oct 11
tintingz:
I guess she didn't see the exception.

I know a thing or two about positive moves!

That you are making positive moves doesn't mean (or even guarantee) you'd see results.

i graduated from the university an high flier, literally had the best clique back in school. Young, hungry guys that were ready to conquer the world.

It's four years on and the biggest any of myself or my top shot (about 10 male) friends have come close to making it is a N178K salary job. One of us was offered a full time employment at NBC with a pay of N25,000.

That doesn't take anything from us, we have tried and we are still trying.

We have been making positive moves for 4 years and no breakthrough! Or not the type of breakthrough we hoped for!
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 11:48am On Oct 11
NairaSand:


I know a thing or two about positive moves!

That you are making positive moves doesn't mean (or even guarantee) you'd see results.

i graduated from the university an high flier, literally had the best clique back in school. Young, hungry guys that were ready to conquer the world.

It's four years on and the biggest any of myself or my top shot (about 10 male) friends have come close to making it is a N178K salary job. One of us was offered a full time employment at NBC with a pay of N25,000.

That doesn't take anything from us, we have tried and we are still trying.

We have been making positive moves for 4 years and no breakthrough! Or not the type of breakthrough we hoped for!
We are still on same thing "positive moves" the OP said "no positive move" the opposite is negative move.

When a woman sees a man making a positive move even it is moving slowly, a good wife will still appreciate give the respect he deserves.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by alexialin: 11:50am On Oct 11
NairaSand:


Okay.....You are a lady!!!

LOL

I sweating as I am typing this, not because I am not a man but because I am afraid of coming across people like you.

Are you saying that the day the "man of the house" comes home and say "Honey, I just lost my job" is the day He relinquish all power, substance and dignity to his wife?

Are you saying relationships (and marriages) is a competition? A competition where whoever earns more is the breadwinner?

Plus what is your definition of a breadwinner? Is it in a bread context because I am confused.

I was in an RCCG church in Texas sometime last year, the topic of discussion was "Is the responsibility of the wife to cook?" 80% of the men thought it wasn't, then it hit me. Poor people stress about too many things. Insecurity somewhere on top of that long list.

Relationships ain't a competition, as a man I will try my best to be the best I can everyday but if somehow my woman ends up higher than I am, I won't stress. in fact, I will support her in every way I can.

A husband and wife should be friends first then lovers. You can't control your friend around simply because you earn more than him/her. It makes no sense.

My GF earns about 4X my salary. Trust me, I am not bothered cheesy

She's beginning to treat me like I am broke, and every time I remind her I earn about 10X minimum wage! So no I'm not broke.

I still pay the bills when we go out, still comfortably afford "expensive" gifts on special occasions. Still pay my rent, still cater for every of my responsibilities.

If the relationship was to be marriage, I'd be damned if I have to relinquish my substance. That'd sadly be the case if it were to be you though.

So OP, outgrow your "poor man" mentality. That you have some change now doesn't give you the right to start questioning why you can't be the decision power house.

Please sit down and be humble, a marriage is not a race.







Oh the op is a lady grin


Lol.. No wonder.



Anyways op take it easy.
Marriage is not a platform for competitions and unnecessary race.

Women like the op, sha cheesy
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 11:52am On Oct 11
eelipumpin:

your structure of marriage seems narrow. So if a child takes care of his father and mother, does he automatically become the head of that family? Marriage is not like every other institution. not like CBN , or a Political office. The sun shines, the rain falls, man gets married- For companionship, for help, for procreation and fulfilling other life's purpose as a rock called Family.
A child knows his position as a child, if he/she is taking the responsibility of his/her parents, he/she is doing the responsibility as the CHILD.

Stop using illogical analogy.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Nobody: 11:53am On Oct 11
tintingz:
We are still on same thing "positive moves" the OP said "no positive move" the opposite is negative move.

When a woman sees a man making a positive move even it is moving slowly, a good wife will still appreciate give the respect he deserves.

I don't think we are on the same page.

I dey vex for you sef. Watin? cheesy cheesy
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 11:55am On Oct 11
alexialin:








Oh the op is a lady grin


Lol.. No wonder.



Anyways op take it easy.
Marriage is not a platform for competitions and unnecessary race.

Women like the op, sha cheesy
I'm not a lady.

Where did I ever mention I'm a lady? undecided
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by alexialin: 12:03pm On Oct 11
tintingz:
I'm not a lady.

Where did I ever mention I'm a lady? undecided



The person I quoted said u are a lady and u didn't dispute it.

Also a man wouldn't be all hung up about this issue, of whose the breadwinner if the woman takes care of the home financially.

A typical man does not have the time and patience on this type of long debate.


So if u are not a lady, then u are either a transgender or a female specie alien. grin cheesy


Sorry if it sound offensive .. grin

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by ToZaraWithaZ(m): 12:24pm On Oct 11
So many posts on this thread reek of sexism and stupidity.

By the way, OP, in a loving relationship between an adult man and his female counterpart, there's no such thing as "head", since the very concept itself is ridiculous and meaningless, if you're to FOLLOW IT TO ITS LOGICAL CONCLUSION, in which case it will no longer be a loving relationship, but one of Master and Slave, Father and Daughter. I don't see what's sweet or beautiful in that. undecided

Of course, there's no one-size-fits-all model, but the very fact that the ideal marriage is one where BOTH PARTNERS come together to decide on what works best for them already RULES OUT the very idea of a "head".

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 12:24pm On Oct 11
NairaSand:


Okay.....You are a lady!!!

LOL
Where did I ever said I'm a lady? Stop being fallacious.


I sweating as I am typing this, not because I am not a man but because I am afraid of coming across people like you.
I'm still not a lady.


Are you saying that the day the "man of the house" comes home and say "Honey, I just lost my job" is the day He relinquish all power, substance and dignity to his wife?
Nope, did you read the exception in the OP?


Are you saying relationships (and marriages) is a competition? A competition where whoever earns more is the breadwinner?
Nope, I never said this, you're only assuming? What's the topic of this thread again?

Head of the home = Title

Breadwinner = Provider

So what's the quality of the head of of home?


Plus what is your definition of a breadwinner? Is it in a bread context because I am confused.
Breadwinner : a person who earns money to support a family.


I was in an RCCG church in Texas sometime last year, the topic of discussion was "Is the responsibility of the wife to cook?" 80% of the men thought it wasn't, then it hit me. Poor people stress about too many things. Insecurity somewhere on top of that long list.
Here in Africa, it is the responsibility of the wife to cook.


Relationships ain't a competition, as a man I will try my best to be the best I can everyday but if somehow my woman ends up higher than I am, I won't stress. in fact, I will support her in every way I can.

A husband and wife should be friends first then lovers. You can't control your friend around simply because you earn more than him/her. It makes no sense.

My GF earns about 4X my salary. Trust me, I am not bothered cheesy

She's beginning to treat me like I am broke, and every time I remind her I earn about 10X minimum wage! So no I'm not broke.
Here in Africa, men always brag being the head even if they are not doing their responsibilities, a drunkard useless husband will still be seen as the head and still deserve to be respected as the head but when a wife do same she's not a good wife and shouldn't be valued. The double standard is the point of this thread.


I still pay the bills when we go out, still comfortably afford "expensive" gifts on special occasions. Still pay my rent, still cater for every of my responsibilities.
This is exception.


If the relationship was to be marriage, I'd be damned if I have to relinquish my substance. That'd sadly be the case if it were to be you though.

So OP, outgrow your "poor man" mentality. That you have some change now doesn't give you the right to start questioning why you can't be the decision power house.

Please sit down and be humble, a marriage is not a race.
And lastly I'm not a lady, the point of this thread is the double standard in our society, i want to know why a woman being the provider of the home shouldn't be called the head?.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 12:34pm On Oct 11
alexialin:




The person I quoted said u are a lady and u didn't dispute it.

Also a man wouldn't be all hung up about this issue, of whose the breadwinner if the woman takes care of the home financially.

A typical man does not have the time and patience on this type of long debate.


So if u are not a lady, then u are either a transgender or a female specie alien. grin cheesy


Sorry if it sound offensive .. grin
I've responded to whoever thinks I'm a lady, well your African programmed archaic thinking will always think the person behind this post is a lady because it is strange and rare for a man to support equality.

I always time for rational debate, I love rational debate.

I'm not transgender, my diçk is real and active cheesy, this is a faceless forum so I don't expect you to believe

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Nobody: 12:36pm On Oct 11
tintingz:
Where did I ever said I'm a lady? Stop being fallacious.

I'm still not a lady.

Nope, did you read the exception in the OP?

Nope, I never said this, you're only assuming? What's the topic of this thread again?

Head of the home = Title

Breadwinner = Provider

So what's the quality of the head of of home?

Breadwinner : a person who earns money to support a family.

Here in Africa, it is the responsibility of the wife to cook.

Here in Africa, men always brag being the head even if they are not doing their responsibilities, a drunkard useless husband will still be seen as the head and still deserve to be respected as the head but when a wife do same she's not a good wife and shouldn't be valued. The double standard is the point of this thread.

This is exception.

And lastly I'm not a lady, the point of this thread is the double standard in our society, i want to know why a woman being the provider of the home shouldn't be called the head?.

And my debate is should there even be a "head"?

Your definition of a breadwinner is flawed, I was expecting something more like a person who earns more money to support a family

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 11
tintingz:
I've responded to whoever thinks I'm a lady, well your African programmed archaic thinking will always think the person behind this post is a lady because it is strange and rare for a man to support equality.

I always time for rational debate, I love rational debate.

I'm not transgender, my diçk is real cheesy, this is a faceless forum so I don't expect you to believe

Where did the bolded come from?

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by dane15: 12:41pm On Oct 11
tintingz:
Lol, home making suit them is not because of natural configuration but taught (sociocultural), are you saying if a man was taught how to keep a home it won't suit him or good at it? Queen Elizabeth was a leader throughout her life, can we say she knows how to keep a home like our traditional wives?

I agree men make use of logic than women, but we now have many women making use of logic but unfortunately such women are seen has angry boss lady because she's "feminine" and our patriarch society wants her to be weak and silent.

Yes logic play more role in dealing with things, making use of emotions will only result to bias and sentiment, but in this era like have said women are now working as managers, boss, CEOs, in fact women are becoming the provider of the home, are we saying they are not applying logic? Women are not dumb like what people think, because they express their emotion more than men doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing. Study shows men are more depressed than women because they caged their emotions, the reason men die early than women.

I am sure that I am not the only one who does not understand you again.
It is difficult to point you to the way because you do not want to work with religion, tradition or even Science.
You are very funny. Are you saying that if you train a goat not to eat yams, it won't eat it? A thousand times No. Your biological configuration makes some things naturally easier for you. A woman can naturally multitask. She can be cooking, be attending to a baby, be writing a book and so many other things at the same time. A man cannot. Read my lips words, cannot. You can research this. They can only try.
I agree that there may be some exceptions here and there but it does not invalidate the overall integrity of the facts that women are better home makers, men are better at logical decision making.
Who goes into a war planning to lose? Even as a business man, if I have a team of male workers, I will trust the most logical guy to make decisions.Why? because he will make decisions without bias or sentiments.
Does it mean all the other people are not needed ? No! Does it make the team members lesser than the team leader? No.

It only means I am taking advantage of his strength to maximize the team's productivity. I think you are seeing it from the point of " Whoever leads is better". Which is a wrong concept of a marriage.
I have a boss (male) who writes emails with emotions. He calls me to vet, "formalize" and rearrange his emails. Does that make me his boss? No.
Just see it from that perspective. The concept of head of family is not a head and servant relationship. It is a Leader/Assistant Leader relationship.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by eelipumpin: 12:41pm On Oct 11
tintingz:
A child knows his position as a child, if he/she is taking the responsibility of his/her parents, he/she is doing the responsibility as the CHILD.

Stop using illogical analogy.
bros, wit your mindset; nothing can be logical. Just enjoy your freedom of opinion.

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 12:44pm On Oct 11
NairaSand:


And my debate is should there even be a "head"?
That is another question.


Your definition of a breadwinner is flawed, I was expecting something more like a person who earns more money to support a family

I got my definition from Google, image attached.

Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by ToZaraWithaZ(m): 12:46pm On Oct 11
NairaSand:


And my debate is should there even be a "head"?

Your definition of a breadwinner is flawed, I was expecting something more like a person who earns more money to support a family
Exactly. WHY should there be a "head"? What's the point? It's pointless and meaningless.

By definition, being the "head" confers upon you the authority to make the FINAL decision - the power to have the FINAL say. You can't call yourself the head, and in the same breath lie through your teeth that you don't think your spouse should be SUBMISSIVE. Both are mutually exclusive. You're either the "head" or you're not. You can't hold unto that archaic title and still claim that you're equal. That's plain dishonesty.

Haven said that, what kind of a SICK FÜCK wants to order their spouse around? I don't quite get it. undecided

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Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 12:52pm On Oct 11
NairaSand:


Where did the bolded come from?
She said she was taught a.k.a programmed.
Re: Does The Wife Earn The Position Of Head Of The House If She's The Breadwinner? by tintingz(m): 12:53pm On Oct 11
eelipumpin:

bros, wit your mindset; nothing can be logical. Just enjoy your freedom of opinion.
Go and know what analogy means and how it is used.

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