I just came accross this on the net and i think it will drop some questions on those who doubt that Jesus Christ is who He said he is. Enjoy.

In discussing his apologetic method, C. S. Lewis once stated that he usually found the aut Deus aut malus homo quite useful in demonstrating the validity of Christ's claims.1 The argument, which is summed up in this Latin phrase ("Either God or a bad man", points out that, if Christ's claims were false, then he could not have been a good man, since he thought of Himself as God. This "liar, lunatic, or Lord" argument was summarized by Lewis in one of his most widely quoted passages:

I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.2

Elsewhere, C. S. Lewis has stated that if Christ's claims for Himself are not true, then they are "those of a megalomaniac, compared with whom Hitler was the most sane and humble of men." He continued:

There is no half-way house and there is no parallel in other religions. If you had gone to Buddha and asked Him, "Are you the son of Bramah?" he would have said, "My son, you are still in the vale of illusion." If you had gone to Socrates and asked, "Are you Zeus?" he would have laughed at you. If you had gone to Mohammed and asked, "are you Allah?" he would first have rent his clothes and then cut you head off. If you had asked Confucius, "Are you Heaven?", I think he would have probably replied, "Remarks which are not in accordance with nature are in bad taste." The idea of a great moral teacher saying what Christ said is out of the question.3

Benjamin Franklin, who was a Deist who did not believe in the divinity of Christ, wrote in his Resolution on Humility that one should "Imitate Jesus and Socrates." It is interesting that, throughout all of history, Jesus has been considered a model of humility. Yet, if He was not whom He claimed to be, then He was the very opposite of humble. William Lyon Phelps has written:

Either his assumption of authority came from his union with God, or he was the most conceited of human beings. Modesty is one of the finest manly attributes; a man cannot be perfect, cannot even be called very good, who lacks modesty, who takes Himself too seriously. If Jesus were only a man, he lacked one of the cardinal virtues and was marked by a fault peculiarly offensive. But the angels and the shepherds and the wise men who celebrated the first Christmas, they knew who he was. Kneeling before the manger at Bethlehem they worshipped the Divine Saviour.

just one question, " d person who created diz forum : Idiot, Stupid, or just Crazy??
seriously u guys have gat 2 mind d kinda forum u create, not just come on n create wat ever u want!!!

what exactly on the Thread freaks you out?

lafile:

what exactly on the Thread freaks you out?

The part of asking : "if my God is a lunatic!!!, just wat a question!!!
how would u feel if i came up to u n asked u if ur father was a lunatic?

He is the King of the Jews.  That is a racial statement.  Make no mistake about it,

He is Jewish.

He is also the King of Israel. 

He is a national King.

He is also the King of all Ages,

He is the King of Heaven,

He is the King of Glory,

He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

He was a Prophet before Moses;

He is a Priest after Melchisedek;

He is a champion like Joshua;

Do you know Him?

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I just came accross this on the net and i think it will drop some questions on those who doubt that Jesus Christ is who He said he is. Enjoy.

In discussing his apologetic method, C. S. Lewis once stated that he usually found the aut Deus aut malus homo quite useful in demonstrating the validity of Christ's claims.1 The argument, which is summed up in this Latin phrase ("Either God or a bad man", points out that, if Christ's claims were false, then he could not have been a good man, since he thought of Himself as God. This "liar, lunatic, or Lord" argument was summarized by Lewis in one of his most widely quoted passages:

I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.2

Elsewhere, C. S. Lewis has stated that if Christ's claims for Himself are not true, then they are "those of a megalomaniac, compared with whom Hitler was the most sane and humble of men." He continued:

There is no half-way house and there is no parallel in other religions. If you had gone to Buddha and asked Him, "Are you the son of Bramah?" he would have said, "My son, you are still in the vale of illusion." If you had gone to Socrates and asked, "Are you Zeus?" he would have laughed at you. If you had gone to Mohammed and asked, "are you Allah?" he would first have rent his clothes and then cut you head off. If you had asked Confucius, "Are you Heaven?", I think he would have probably replied, "Remarks which are not in accordance with nature are in bad taste." The idea of a great moral teacher saying what Christ said is out of the question.3

Benjamin Franklin, who was a Deist who did not believe in the divinity of Christ, wrote in his Resolution on Humility that one should "Imitate Jesus and Socrates." It is interesting that, throughout all of history, Jesus has been considered a model of humility. Yet, if He was not whom He claimed to be, then He was the very opposite of humble. William Lyon Phelps has written:

Either his assumption of authority came from his union with God, or he was the most conceited of human beings. Modesty is one of the finest manly attributes; a man cannot be perfect, cannot even be called very good, who lacks modesty, who takes Himself too seriously. If Jesus were only a man, he lacked one of the cardinal virtues and was marked by a fault peculiarly offensive. But the angels and the shepherds and the wise men who celebrated the first Christmas, they knew who he was. Kneeling before the manger at Bethlehem they worshipped the Divine Saviour.
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Re: Jesus Christ: Lord, Lunatic Or Liar?
« #1 on: February 19, 2007, 01:32 PM »

http://www.grmi.org/Richard_Riss/evidences/34prob.html]/Quote]What if he had nothing to do with any of the elements of divinity heaped on his, especially when it is obvious that he said "why call me good? the Only One Who is Good is not on earth"? Will a real chairman of a company be a subordinate to the real Chairman of the same company? Are there 2 chairman? I know it should be chairman, but I'm observing the Trinitarian way of expressing 1 complete God when in reality they say there are 3 separate and fully independent entities of God[s]. When people use their brain and apply reasons, it is a natural conclusion to arrive, morally that Yahweh and Jesus, if are only considered shall be two Gods. When you add the inactive Ghost arriving at the Trinity, there shall be nothing less than 3 Gods.

Shall we heap these nonsensical on a Prophet of God, who is a son of man, saying that he is not to be called "good"? The nonsense belong to the writers of the nonsense, confusions and we must acquit Jesus son of Mary, the messenger and prophet of God.[/quote]

What if he had nothing to do with any of the elements of divinity heaped on his, especially when it is obvious that he said "why call me good? the Only One Who is Good is not on earth"? Will a real chairman of a company be a subordinate to the real Chairman of the same company? Are there 2 chairman? I know it should be chairman, but I'm observing the Trinitarian way of expressing 1 complete God when in reality they say there are 3 separate and fully independent entities of God[s]. When people use their brain and apply reasons, it is a natural conclusion to arrive, morally that Yahweh and Jesus, if are only considered shall be two Gods. When you add the inactive Ghost arriving at the Trinity, there shall be nothing less than 3 Gods.

Shall we heap these nonsensical on a Prophet of God, who is a son of man, saying that he is not to be called "good"? The nonsense belong to the writers of the nonsense, confusions and we must acquit Jesus son of Mary, the messenger and prophet of God.

^^^^
Heheheh this woman has problem with opposites.

The opposite of LOrd is

a. Lunatic b. Liar c. Not divine (Not Lord)

The Opposite of Lunatic is:

a.Lord b.Liar c. Sane

the opposite of Liar is :

a. Lord b. Lunatic d. an honest person.


see how confusing Christianity can be? Since when do the three words become Opposite to each other?   

Jesus is either Lord or human, and he is very much human, because he ate/drink/ and felt hunger which are some of the attributes of being human.

Lunatic well that has no place as Jesus was sane that was why he said he is a servant. and also asked God for forgiveness, Jesus (PBUH) prayed to the Father in the Heaven; “And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.” (Matthew 6:12), Furthermore If Jesus is lord(GOD) auzobilla! nowhere does he emphatically says so, instead this despirados will use all sort of trick to "prove" he is,

About being a Liar Jesus couldn't be lying for saying he is the servant of God.

Jesus is Human, a Servant of God and a Prophet. ALLAHUAKBAR!