Your choice.

Marcelo290:
Lol girl calm down. So stating my thoughts and asking for your opinions have now made me a misogynist? I don't know if you aren't seeing what the society is turning into, what prompted this post was when I saw a teenage girl run away from home to go stay with the so called BF. Adding this to my experience in campus was what necessitated my post. Girls no longer have self control, some would visit you and refuse to go..

I feel it's a drifting period..Even boys drift...They'll come back home...

Marcelo290:
[s]Lol girl calm down. So stating my thoughts and asking for your opinions have now made me a misogynist ? I don't know if you aren't seeing what the society is turning into, what prompted this post was when I saw a teenage girl run away from home to go stay with the so called BF. Adding this to my experience in campus was what necessitated my post. Girls no longer have self control, some would visit you and refuse to go..[/s]

You are,

girls this, girls that, una type, misogynists, never see when a guy does wrong. It's only women you people see,

Like I said whatever you've typed and want to type has been done by both sexes but you decided to pick on only females. Sign of a misogynist

Follow Raggedyann advice and stop being a misogynist. ok?

Rokia2:


Damn fact and we know this.

But how does this relate to the topic thou?

Chaiii,
This killed me

Marcelo290:
your first paragraph though.

Well you made very salient points, but as I stated in my post, I know those who were trained with the highest morals, but you should know what peer pressure can cause, you know the cliche about Pastors daughters being the most corrupt. .

Yes, raising children isn't easy. Some people think it works by strict instruction or by good example. Some people think: if you give a child everything they need, they won't fall into temptation. . There's no manual that fits every situation. But you've got to try the best that you can. Learn from parents who've successfully raised successful children, but remember that they're different people and their methods may not necessarily work directly for you without a few tweaks. Parenting isn't for the lazy or nonchalant. At least, it shouldn't be.

You should be sure that you can see your child's aspirations clearly as they get set to fly the nest. Parents too often tailor the paths of their kids. If you do that, you can't trust them to stay on course when you aren't there, constantly looking over their shoulder. But if you've done your bit, helped them dream their own dreams and choose proper role models and mentors for themselves; then you can see where they're headed. You can, to a large extent, see what they're pursuing and predict them. Human beings can always be trusted to be selfish and self-serving, even children.

supersystemsnig:
Female bashing is a ritual to get ladies to respond to guys that would have never been able to get their attention... Ladies understand this. When you see guys bashing, it's a cry for intimate relationships and not what the word projects on the surface level... ;DIt's humility to walk off that path and do things the right way... ;DSo stop taking the bashing serious, it's reverse psychology, and is a desperate cry for attention......

Not everyone is a dumb ass licker like you that desperately seek attention not even in real life but on NL of all places. Ask them girls here how many of them I've sent a PM if I was actually seeking attention, Now swerve away to the land of the dead you miserable disgrace of a man.

Daeylar:
Misogynists everywhere, look at the useless reasons this one gave,

As if it's only female children that can change, as if males can't change when they leave home, as if male children can't be bad,

All the issues you raised could apply to both male and female, but in your stupidity you decided to pick on the females.
Nonsense,

Better don't marry a woman, and a woman shouldn't give birth to your child, after all she is someone's female child. Go and look for a man to carry your kids.

Zandha Yaff taught you too àbí? Continue

adepeter2027:

Zandha Yaff taught you too àbí? Continue

Lol what do you mean?

Marcelo290:
Not everyone is a dumb ass licker like you that desperately seek attention not even in real life but on NL of all places. Ask them girls here how many of them I've sent a PM if I was actually seeking attention, Now swerve away to the land of the dead you miserable disgrace of a man.

Anyhow, your choice brov... It's called posturing and perception. You'll understand if you live a few years longer...that's if you don't remain in your " dumb " mode !

adepeter2027:

Zandha Yaff taught you too àbí? Continue

Answer me
What do you mean?

RaggedyAnn:



Yes, raising children isn't easy. Some people think it works by strict instruction or by good example. Some people think: if you give a child everything they need, they won't fall into temptation. . There's no manual that fits every situation. But you've got to try the best that you can. Learn from parents who've successfully raised successful children, but remember that they're different people and their methods may not necessarily work directly for you without a few tweaks. Parenting isn't for the lazy or nonchalant. At least, it shouldn't be.

You should be sure that you can see your child's aspirations clearly as they get set to fly the nest. Parents too often tailor the paths of their kids. If you do that, you can't trust them to stay on course when you aren't there, constantly looking over their shoulder. But if you've done your bit, helped them dream their own dreams and choose proper role models and mentors for themselves; then you can see where they're headed. You can, to a large extent, see what they're pursuing and predict them. Human beings can always be trusted to be selfish and self-serving, even children.

Girl, I feel like giving you a kiss for this, nice one. Your comment is the only meaningful one I've seen so far, I needed to be convinced and you tried.

Daeylar:


You are,

girls this, girls that, una type, misogynists, never see when a guy does wrong. It's only women you people see,

Like I said whatever you've typed and want to type has been done by both sexes but you decided to pick on only females. Sign of a misogynist

Follow Raggedyann advice and stop being a misogynist. ok?

Truth be told, the consequences of immortality in males and females is not the same. So many teen girls impregnated by teen boys have had their education delayed and the entire course of their lives derailed. Also, abortions which place the lives of the participants at risk are done on women not men. Now while the girl child is exposed to all the above risks, the boy child responsible for this pregnancy can move on with life as if nothing ever happened. We've seen these scenarios played out over and over again.

Now even though I do not agree with the op as I'd really love to have a daughter, I can understand his fears

Daeylar:

Answer me What do you mean?

Not from my mouth sweerie

supersystemsnig:



Anyhow, your choice brov... It's called posturing and perception. You'll understand if you live a few years longer...that's it you don't remain in your " dumb " mode !

My post isn't against women. I just stated my points and fears with what I see daily. my reason for posting it here is to seek the opinion of others, but you jumped in to say I'm seeking attention. If other guys on NL do so for attention, I don't. You sounded dumb hence my harsh reply.

Marcelo290, sorry about your experience. I bet women will say the same of our men. Apparently, not all women end up like this. There are so many women who are adventurous yet morally upright. Maybe you should learn to be a better father. The type that would give his girl child sex education, teach her to be firm and independent, and how to rise above peer pressure. And primarily lead by example by being a good role model

KevinDein:

Truth be told, the consequences of immortality in males and females is not the same. So many teen girls impregnated by teen boys have had their education delayed and the entire course of their lives derailed. Also, abortions which place the lives of the participants at risk are done on women not men. Now while the girl child is exposed to all the above risks, the boy child responsible for this pregnancy can move on with life as if nothing ever happened. We've seen these scenarios played out over and over again.

Now even though I do not agree with the op as I'd really love to have a daughter, I can understand his fears

Well said @ the boy child responsible for this pregnancy can move on with life as if nothing ever happened. We've seen these scenarios played out over and over again.


We have these fears, they are valid, i feel personally fellowship, friendship circles,access to information plays crucial roles...We also need to pay attention to the driftings once they start to behave in ways contrary to principles they were fed with, it means someone is feeding them stuff and it's not you. For me o, boy or girl, the moment, i begin to see qualities that aren't mine, it means someone is schooling them somewhere, this is where to cut the red line, in its seed form before it becomes fruit...


All source of information should be scrutinized. For me personally, i will put a lid o social media and television programs, most times attitudes are just the aftermath of the stuff people get from media after an extended period...Imagine doing vie hours of cable TV daily for a year...that's 5 x 365 = 1825 hours, do this year in year out, it will tell on the character of the individual. We can't leave our kids to be brought up and nurtured by principles that are not scrutinized..I heard Bill Gate banned his kids from cell phone till 15 years of age




I passed through six years of boarding school, and can authoritatively say influence plays key role...In the end, it's important to take advantage of the six - fifteen years old gap, do this, have the child for a long time...But the demands of life, work etc, strips many parents of the time they need to impact crucial life lessons


May God help us all

Marcelo290:
My post isn't against women. I just stated my points and fears with what I see daily. my reason for posting it here is to seek the opinion of others, but you jumped in to say I'm seeking attention. If other guys on NL do so for attention, I don't. You sounded dumb hence my harsh reply.

Phck off already ass licker..Let my moniker be in peace

adepeter2027:

Not from my mouth sweerie

The same mouth can tell me that I'm learning from zandha but can't tell me specifically what I'm learning
Don't accuse me when you can't prove it.


Anyways, Let me ignore.

KevinDein:

Truth be told, the consequences of immortality in males and females is not the same. So many teen girls impregnated by teen boys have had their education delayed and the entire course of their lives derailed. Also, abortions which place the lives of the participants at risk are done on women not men. Now while the girl child is exposed to all the above risks, the boy child responsible for this pregnancy can move on with life as if nothing ever happened. We've seen these scenarios played out over and over again.

Now even though I do not agree with the op as I'd really love to have a daughter, I can understand his fears

Bro you seem to be the only guy that understands me so far. You just said it exactly how it's in my mind. I may have a change of ideology if I'm convinced with what I read here reason I seek for varied opinions

Sterope:
Marcelo290, sorry about your experience. I bet women we say the same of our men. Apparently, not all women end up like this. There are so many women who are adventurous yet morally upright. Maybe you should learn to be a better father. The type that would give his girl child sex education, teach her to be firm and independent, and how to rise above peer pressure. And primarily lead by example by being a good role model

At least am seeing people that have sense and understand my post, my intent wasn't to bash women like some think, thanks dear.

@KevinDein





First : Detach the fear of the girl child or alleviate it

Second : Maintain a routine, with age gap, there should be tasks between specific time for the child to be engaged in. Do not overburden the child, but make sure there are no in-betweens that can not be accountable for, have time for siesta, studies,TV, academics, home chores. The kid must be found in this time line,if the kid is not, be watchful

Third : Exposure, censore the programs they are exposed to, they may be young at some point, but the quality of the mould ( in this case ) mind is greatly influcned by it, you don't wantpollutants seeping through...


Fourth : Engage them in girly activites, like friends, music, do not be rigid...Don't ever make them feel trapped, if they do, they'll want to explore


Five : Use porn blocker on all your electronic gadgets, filter the programs they have access to....


Six : No to boarding school


Seven : Catch them early, capturing the mind early alleviates the exposure to social experiements down the line


Eight : Watch out for strange traits, immediately you notice a foul language/character, there's an external factor involved actively


Most importantly, Pray for them......We all have this fears, but we must pray, and detach the fear of raising the female child, we do this, and hope for the best...

supersystemsnig:



Well said @ the boy child responsible for this pregnancy can move on with life as if nothing ever happened. We've seen these scenarios played out over and over again.


We have these fears, they are valid, i feel personally fellowship, friendship circles,access to information plays crucial roles...We also need to pay attention to the driftings once they start to behave in ways contrary to principles they were fed with, it means someone is feeding them stuff and it's not you. For me o, boy or girl, the moment, i begin to see qualities that aren't mine, it means someone is schooling them somewhere, this is where to cut the red line, in its seed form before it becomes fruit...


All source of information should be scrutinized. For me personally, i will put a lid o social media and television programs, most times attitudes are just the aftermath of the stuff people get from media after an extended period...Imagine doing vie hours of cable TV daily for a year...that's 5 x 365 = 1825 hours, do this year in year out, it will tell on the character of the individual. We can't leave our kids to be brought up and nurtured by principles that are not scrutinized..I heard Bill Gate banned his kids from cell phone till 15 years of age




I passed through six years of boarding school, and can authoritatively say influence plays key role...In the end, it's important to take advantage of the six - fifteen years old gap, do this, have the child for a long time...But the demands of life, work etc, strips many parents of the time they need to impact crucial life lessons


May God help us all

You made a huge point here. I'm sorry for my earlier outburst Sir. But again I also went to a boarding school though didn't finish, and I know what peer pressure can cause. In this case where the parents are not in sight to watch them what becomes the result? Even when they come home, they may choose to hide those bad attitudes only to continue when back in school. Unless you want to an only boy school, you should notice how guys make out with girls in dark corners at night.

supersystemsnig:
@KevinDein





First : Detach the fear of the girl child or alleviate it

Second : Maintain a routine, with age gap, there should be tasks between specific time for the child to be engaged in. Do not overburden the child, but make sure there are no in-betweens that can not be accountable for, have time for siesta, studies,TV, academics, home chores. The kid must be found in this time line,if the kid is not, be watchful

Third : Exposure, censore the programs they are exposed to, they may be young at some point, but the quality of the mould ( in this case ) mind is greatly influcned by it, you don't wantpollutants seeping through...


Fourth : Engage them in girly activites, like friends, music, do not be rigid...Don't ever make them feel trapped, if they do, they'll want to explore


Five : Use porn blocker on all your electronic gadgets, filter the programs they have access to....


Six : No to boarding school


Seven : Catch them early, capturing the mind early alleviates the exposure to social experiements down the line


Eight : Watch out for strange traits, immediately you notice a foul language/character, there's an external factor involved actively


Most importantly, Pray for them......We all have this fears, but we must pray, and detach the fear of raising the female child, we do this, and hope for the best...

God bless you for this, I think I'm beginning to have a change of mind and ideology.

Marcelo290:
You made a huge point here. I'm sorry for my earlier outburst Sir. But again I also went to a boarding school though didn't finish, and I know what peer pressure can cause. In this case where the parents are not in sight to watch them what becomes the result? Even when they come home, they may choose to hide those bad attitudes only to continue when back in school. Unless you want to an only boy school, you should notice how guys make out with girls in dark corners at night.

I spent six years in boarding school...17 years on, the only regret i have in life is attending a boarding school. I swear it...I helped trained all my sisters daughters, the fear is valid oh...You need to see me panic and pray for one when she was acting off...But the scripture remains valid, train up a child in the way they should grow, she drifted, but returned...

Drifting helps life experiences become solidified...I drifted, the consequences were much...But all the sum of education i got in my entire life, didn't compare to the lessons i got from drifting...Take away the fear of raising the child away first, follow the routine i mentioned...Do not close a single eye for a sec with the girl child..Lai lai...


Read about " mental stimulation "...It's mental stimulation that snatches the female kids away..Novel is a no-no...Do not tolerate it...Do not tolerate computer in the room, have a library, so supervision can be 100%...Involve the kids in church activities where she can learn to have fun, be feee and enjoy life, if a sense of fun, and self is instilled early, no demon can snatch them away..Don't forget to pray

Marcelo290:
God bless you for this, I think I'm beginning to have a change of mind and ideology.

Brov, iwas surrounded with female kids, it's not ajoke oh... Do not make them feel ashamed or conscious of their body for once

Do not let anyone say they want to teach them feminine parts...Remember the garden of eden...The moment you say " do not " It is a seduction that leads them astray....I practically watch kids do wrong and dont say anything, until long after the memory has faded form their minds...Doing it too hastily, or giving them set of rules, do this do not, only creates the desire to want to find out why you asked them not to do it...I never ever give rules easily, stop that is okay, but rules...The problem is rules, once humans see rules, they desire to test the boundaries to find out why..Ask Adam and Eve...Read where Paul wrote in the scripture extensively about this


Now, go and change that prayer of yours not to give birth to a female

My point is not to come here and start arguing about who bears the consequences of immorality. My point is that op demonizes women in his opening post and acts like its only women that are bad or capable of going bad which is why he would rather not have female kids,
This completely annoys me,

He also skips over the fact the females are not doing this trash with themselves unless they are lesbians like lovelygurl rightly pointed. They are doing this with men. Male children, the op doesn't see such, it's only the women doing wrong that he sees.

Go through his opening post and see if there is anything females do there that the male can't do but no, it's only the female child he focused on. According to him, it's only the female child that can go astray therefore he would rather not have a female child.

There was nothing stated there about consequences of immorality so please don't try and change the topic, if op wanted to talk about his fears on the consequences of immorality on both sexes or on the female sex or had put that in his opening post. My reply may have been different .


I mean look at what he said here,

With all the above reasons and more, I don't know if it's enough justifications to pray not to have a girl child than to have one that would bring shame and disgrace to me and my family, not like the male ones are saints anyway and can't commit crimes, but that of the female is most disgraceful.

I understand these fears, (i don't think they are valid and ive shown why in my later post) however my response was based on the opening post.

KevinDein:

Truth be told, the consequences of immortality in males and females is not the same. So many teen girls impregnated by teen boys have had their education delayed and the entire course of their lives derailed.
Also, abortions which place the lives of the participants at risk are done on women not men.
Now while the girl child is exposed to all the above risks, the boy child responsible for this pregnancy can move on with life as if nothing ever happened. We've seen these scenarios played out over and over again.
Now even though I do not agree with the op as I'd really love to have a daughter, I can understand his fears

it takes two to tango. What about the promiscous male that don't spare anything with boobs, the gigolos, rapist, paedophiles. No wonder they caught the woman who committed adultery in the bible and wanted to stone her to death, leaving the man out of it.

GuntersChain:
it takes two to tango. What about the promiscous male that don't spare anything with boobs, the gigolos, rapist, paedophiles. No wonder they caught the woman who committed adultery in the bible and wanted to stone her to death, leaving the man out of it.

The problem is boys can do sh*ts and get away with it..Females aren't too lucky...All the same, the society needs healthy males and females..God help us..the fear of raising kids with good morals is real

If we start looking at the ills of both gender, I can also say...I don't want to have male kids. I can't imagine raising a potential rapist or rapist apologist, paedophile, armed robber, kidnapper, drug dealer or addict, ritualist, patroniser of call girls, gigolo...I can't even imagine my son giving a girl money for abortion...etc. We all won't have kids.

A professor gave some students a white paper tainted in a little black just at the centre. He asked what they first saw, and they all said the black paint. That's humans, they see that deformity first...myself inclusive. This is exactly what you're doing.

Do your best to train up your kids in a good way, by words and actions. Show them good examples and bad too. Focus on the positive and be hopeful.

Your intention may not have been but your article bash the girl-child. Behind your intention is the assumption that women have to behave in certain way, once they aren't. Apparently, men can afford to act in questionable ways but for women, we must explore ways to reset them to their default settings or question their overall existence.

Marcelo290:
At least am seeing people that have sense and understand my post, my intent wasn't to bash women like some think, thanks dear.

Like the male gender is a saint
If you like you can live your life continuing bashing the opposite sex
If you think the female gender is immoral and no good, please dissociate your self from us.
Don't associate with any female. It's a free world make friends and relate with your own gender

supersystemsnig:



The problem is boys can do sh*ts and get away with it..Females aren't too lucky...All the same, the society needs healthy males and females..God help us..the fear of raising kids with good morals is real

That is the exact point I'm trying to explain to them, males can get away with it but same can't be said of women reason for my fears, the society is already biased in that angle.