annnnnnnd they disappeared. .

Patchesagain:

In otherwords, you made those stats up?

no,no,you misunderstand me,those stats werent made up,they are facts of current events in the north eastern theatre of war.
recently,someone posted a picture of a convoy of igirigi APCs lining the roads of maiduguri,the APCs numbered in dozens,and they were all brand new.
so that alone corroborates my arguement that the Nigerian defence industry has stepped up its manufacturing capacity to about 15%.

Patchesagain:


First - you lied about whites being 40% of the victims of violent crime.

Second - that legislation re-dresses the injustices of the past and is helping to normalize the socio-economic structure of the country. Simular legislation is in place in the US, EU and Australia as well as Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Namibia to name but a few.

You are obsessed with race. You are also posting off topic.

Yes we know about legislation that seeks to balance the demographic structures in countries, especially the US.

Unfortunately, what is happening in southafrica is the extreme approach.

Show me where 75% of any demographic MUST be employed when literacy level us only 36%?

Show me where private companies owned by individuals are denied licence because certain groups are not employed in a stipulated percentage.


Which other country will empower by legislation that a certain demographic be employed to all positions into the entire hierarchical structure irrespective of competency? It is only in southafrica.


The only other country which employed such unnecessary, racist policy was Zimbabwe, and
Mugabe has a sad story to tell.


As for telling lies, I don't. You can dub me Leslie Facts.

For the detainment,lol, incase you haven't notice, whenever military matters become overheated, socio-economic engagement are like deserts after a meal.

We naturally will rail in back to military matters eventually.

EVarn:
no,no,you misunderstand me,those stats werent made up,they are facts of current events in the north eastern theatre of war.
recently,someone posted a picture of a convoy of igirigi APCs lining the roads of maiduguri,the APCs numbered in dozens,and they were all brand new.
so that alone corroborates my arguement that the Nigerian defence industry has stepped up its manufacturing capacity to about 15%.

dozens


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXRdqoZTDY

andrewza:



dozens


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXRdqoZTDY

dozens

iconize:
I've been in the background chirping.
Whats up with you, man?

lol, Doing great and having an amusing Sunday with Mandela boys.

lezz:
Yes we know about legislation that seeks to balance the demographic structures in countries, especially the US.



Show me where 75% of any demographic MUST be employed

Citation needed.

lezz:
when literacy level us only 36%?

Citation needed.

Also, guess then black people are not disenfranchised, as per your post.

Also - Malaysia.

lezz:

We naturally will rail in back to military matters eventually.

No, we will not. Not when failure to prove that Nigeria does not have a pathetic military leads to racist posts.

Patchesagain:


Augustus

You do realize that the war in Angola was more advanced than any war Nigeria has ever fought?

Second, that video you posted is not of a PGM

I wanted to post this video, not that one.

Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer




.

Patchesagain:


No - you had to beg Chad to come and clear them out for you

Show us where Nigeria begged Chad to help. Cameroon begged Chad.

MJNTF has existed for 8 years for joint border area combat, and Nigeria commands MNJTF, Chadian army is under the command of Nigerian army, same way Tanzanian army commanded South African army.

SANDF = Chadian level

Nigeria is now in the class of Egypt who are asking us to help them fight ISIS, why did Egypt not ask Chad or South Africa for military help?

They know both of you are same low level military forces not worth calling into big battles, Tanzania is better than both of you
.

Patchesagain:


This kid still thinks that the size of a modern army is more important than equipment

What happened when the massive egyptian army fought the tiny isrealy army? Infact - it happened twice

Yeah, thats right.

Third time and final battle was a stalemate, Israel failed to defeat Egypt and the Israelis agreed to peaceful settlement, and NEVER attempted to threaten Egypt again, the Egyptians finally broke Israel's military track record of victory.

Saudi Arabia won't last 7 days if they fight Israel.

Egypt is the most powerful Arab and African nation today, and Nigeria is beign called upon by Egypt to help them fight ISIS in Libya, they know who is the second STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA......Nigeria !
.

AugustineAgain:


I wanted to post this video, not that one.

Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer




.

no doubt it is drone. But a drone strike?

South africa had the option to buy armed seeker 400s and choose to get unarmed version. We have gripen for strike missions

DieVluit:


Citation needed.



Citation needed.

Also, guess then black people are not disenfranchised, as per your post.





No, we will not. Not when failure to prove that Nigeria does not have a pathetic military leads to racist posts.

If you need citation for the fact that SA legislation mandates 75% of black employment, then I demand evidence that prove you're southafrican?

AugustineAgain:


I wanted to post this video, not that one.

Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer




.

Why would the air force put its colours on a video? Why? Because the video is fake. That is why there is no source for us to assess.

lezz:
If you need citation for the fact that SA legislation mandates 75% of black employment, then I demand evidence that prove you're southafrican?

In other words, you have no citations and are just spewing racist rubbish that you can't even support.

Why? Because you have failed in the primary argument that the Nigerian military is pathetic.

AugustineAgain:


Third time and final battle was a stalemate, Israel failed to defeat Egypt and the Israelis agreed to peaceful settlement, and NEVER attempted to threaten Egypt again, the Egyptians finally broke Israel's military track record of victory.

Saudi Arabia won't last 7 days if they fight Israel.

Egypt is the most powerful Arab and African nation today, and Nigeria is beign called upon by Egypt to help them fight ISIS in Libya, they know who is the second STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA......Nigeria !
.

During the Yum Kippur war Egypt was defeated.

After the defeat of Egyptian forces at battle of the Chinese farms, the Israeli army was able pierce into Egyptian soil threatening to encircle two armies and capture Cairo.

Nigerian military is rebel force, lacking command and control even at a company level.

andrewza:

no doubt it is drone. But a drone strike?
South africa had the option to buy armed seeker 400s and choose to get unarmed version. We have gripen for strike missions

This video is fake. Why would the readings on the left of the screen be cut out and the NAF colours be edited in?

Because the video is a fong kong.

AugustineAgain:


I wanted to post this video, not that one.

Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer




.

SAAF deployed air to ground missiles in combat before Nigerians even knew what air too ground missiles were.

Your drone will never be deployed against a professional military in a contested air space.

Patchesagain:


lol, all this butthurt

Chad and Cameroon have known nothing but victory

Your army has had to swallow a heavy dose of defeat.

Yesterday, Cameroonian army confirmed 200 troops dead including Cameroonian BIR Elite Special Forces in the past few months.

Chadian army confirmed their dead at about 20 in one day at Gamboru village fight alone.

Sri Lankan army swallowed several defeats from Tamil rebels but still won the war at the end.

War is all about the finale, the end, who wins at last and kills the enemy.

Nigeria is winning this war at last and Boko Haram is loosing.....your favourite map of Boko Haram controlling territory the size of Belgium has not been posted here by you in the last 30 days....shame will not let you do it....Southie s.cumbag

PHOTO : NIGERIAN ARMY CAPTURES BOKO HARAM TOWNS AND POSES WITH SHEKAU'S CALIPHATE FLAG
.

but these are not



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEQw_BBytL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBonD8myM2I

MikeCZAR:
SAAF used FLIR since the 80s, you acquire that capability yesterday now you wanna claim you're ahead? LOL

SAAF used guided bombs in the 80s, you only knew about guided bombs 5 hours ago now you wanna claim you're ahead?

SAAF used air to ground radar and other sensors to locate a crashed USA military plane, you wanna tell us what now?

SAAF used air to ground missiles in the 70s and early 80s, it is only now that Nigerians know about air to ground missile now you wanna tell us what?

[size=16pt]Citations needed for all the above claims
.[/size]

DieVluit:


Because your weapons aren't wanted. Simple.

We never offered them for sale, we have a large army 3 times bigger than yours and we need much equipment manufactured locally in Nigerian defence industries by our own DICON, AFIT, BADEH AERO, NACE, PROFORCE, INKAS, NIGERDOCK etc.

AugustineAgain:

We never offered them for sale, we have a large army 3 times bigger than yours and we need much equipment manufactured locally in Nigerian defence industries by our own DICON, AFIT, BADEH AERO, NACE, PROFORCE, INKAS, NIGERDOCK etc.

You cannot offer them for sale.

You've had your money seized trying to desperately buy south african weapons.

Yours is to buy and consume. Not to make and sell.

AugustineAgain:


[size=16pt]Citations needed for all the above claims
.[/size]

That's not my problem that you don't know.

AugustineAgain:


Yesterday, Cameroonian army confirmed 200 troops dead including Cameroonian BIR Elite Special Forces in the past few months.

Chadian army confirmed their dead at about 20 in one day at Gamboru village fight alone.

Sri Lankan army swallowed several defeats from Tamil rebels but still won the war at the end.

War is all about the finale, the end, who wins at last and kills the enemy.

Nigeria is winning this war at last and Boko Haram is loosing.....your favourite map of Boko Haram controlling territory the size of Belgium has not been posted here by you in the last 30 days....shame will not let you do it....Southie s.cumbag

PHOTO : NIGERIAN ARMY CAPTURES BOKO HARAM TOWNS AND POSES WITH SHEKAU'S CALIPHATE FLAG
.

So, you confirm that BH captured nigerian towns.

Be ashamed!

And the war will actually not be won. It will simply change form. Hurtful but true.

DieVluit:


The question was a simple one: in which contested airspace has nigeria used its fighters?

South African air force lost the air battle in contested airspace, Cuban teenage pilots had TOTAL air superiority over SAAF.

You wanna boast about a jet fighters air war in which SAAF lost to inexperienced teenagers from Cuba who were seeing war for the first time?

AugustineAgain:


South African air force lost the air battle in contested airspace, Cuban teenage pilots had TOTAL air superiority over SAAF.

You wanna boast about a jet fighters air war in which SAAF lost to inexperienced teenagers from Cuba who were seeing war for the first time?

I think you should check the combat record. SAAF struggled due to distance but they never lost

lezz:
Yes we know about legislation that seeks to balance the demographic structures in countries, especially the US.

Unfortunately, what is happening in southafrica is the extreme approach.

Show me where 75% of any demographic MUST be employed when literacy level us only 36%?

Show me where private companies owned by individuals are denied licence because certain groups are not employed in a stipulated percentage.


Which other country will empower by legislation that a certain demographic be employed to all positions into the entire hierarchical structure irrespective of competency? It is only in southafrica.


The only other country which employed such unnecessary, racist policy was Zimbabwe, and
Mugabe has a sad story to tell.


As for telling lies, I don't. You can dub me Leslie Facts.

For the detainment,lol, incase you haven't notice, whenever military matters become overheated, socio-economic engagement are like deserts after a meal.

We naturally will rail in back to military matters eventually.

This is all completely wrong

1. Literacy rate in South Africa is 92%

2. No company is denied any licencing due to BEE non-compliance. BEE compliance is only relevant for:

A. Winning Government tenders
B. Tax incentivisation
C. Government subsidies.

Companies that are not BEE compliant are not punished, rather, companies that chose to comply are rewarded.

3. Competency is relevant, multiple companies achieve BEE compliance despite the fact that they employ low numbers of previously disadvantaged people in levels above middle management - due to the scarcity of qualified black managers between the ages of 40-60 - See Anglo-American and Xtrata as examples.

This policy is essential are redressing 300 years of economic discrimination, and while it does adversely affect business efficiency this is a necessary sacrifice in the creation of a new black middle class where once there was none.

Now, if you were not a peon I would explain to you that the ANC is not a revolutionary party and is infact founded on the ideals simular to those of the center right in England and Germany ( The Tories and the CDU respectively) and that their primary concern is the creation of a stable powerbase in the middle-class that will allow them to sever ties with the trade unions (who have pulled them to the left, and caused the election of our current socialist president) so that they may pursue a more center right policy (which they were founded on).

You see, plebeian, you nigerians are focused on the now and here, we South Africans are thinking about changes that will only come into place in 2-4 generations.

Now, I have indulged you enough, this thread is far too derailed. Post on topic.

jln115:

NAF has 12 F-7s, why would you have anything short of 12 pilots?

We have over 12 F-7 pilots, I posted photos of 7 of those pilots here many times repeatedly.

AugustineAgain:


I wanted to post this video, not that one.

Here, NAF missile drone strike with PGM......SAAF has ZERO combat experience of air to ground missiles, NAF is Africa's first air force to use missile armed drones in real battlefield, and we are you new masters, we take over from the white-man Boer




.

That is not a PGM strike.

AugustineAgain:


Show us where Nigeria begged Chad to help. Cameroon begged Chad.

MJNTF has existed for 8 years for joint border area combat, and Nigeria commands MNJTF, Chadian army is under the command of Nigerian army, same way Tanzanian army commanded South African army.

SANDF = Chadian level

Nigeria is now in the class of Egypt who are asking us to help them fight ISIS, why did Egypt not ask Chad or South Africa for military help?

They know both of you are same low level military forces not worth calling into big battles, Tanzania is better than both of you
.

First, Egypt did not ask you for help.

Second, Chad has tasted nothing but victory, while your men have forgotten what winning looks like.

I hear that the Nigerian army trucks had to get their gear boxes replaced, first to fifth gear were fine... but reverse was worn out

Patchesagain:


Those are all the pilots in the NAF

#ShowUsF7'sInTheAir

NAF does not do Hollywood air show with unqualified pilots like you do in SAAF.

We have surplus F-7 jet pilots
.

andrewza:
but these are not



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEQw_BBytL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBonD8myM2I

If it were Nigerians.

We would heard their horns blowing, claiming they're the best and most powerful.