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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:43pm On Mar 03, 2015
DieVluit:


Die under Nigerian guard.

Displaced under Nigerian guard.

Less have died or been displaced while under Chadian protection.

Chad has only been fighting for 6 weeks. Nigerian has been fighting for 6 years.

Chad has been attacked only once. Nigeria has been attacked over 300 times.

Chad did only one air combat and murdered 30 innocent civilians in their stupiidity inside Niger Republic. Nigeria has flown over 2,000 air combat operations yet we didn't murder innocent families.

Chad and South African have similar foolish incompetent military forces as you both watched Seleka Rebels reign supreme in Bangui.....a tale of two fools
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:44pm On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Chad has only been fighting for 6 weeks. Nigerian has been fighting for 6 years.


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And in those 6 weeks, they liberated Nigerian towns.

Nigeria has spent 6 years with no tangible results, until Chad came along.

Be ashamed.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:50pm On Mar 03, 2015
DieVluit:


And in those 6 weeks, they liberated Nigerian towns.

Nigeria has spent 6 years with no tangible results, until Chad came along.

Be ashamed.
In six weeks,they entered only Gamboru-Ngala after Nigeria had carried out a series of heavy airstrikes on the town.
Even when all the heavy lifting was already done for them by the NAF,they still managed to allow hundreds of terrorists to dance round them into cameroon,which lead to the massacre of hundreds{probably thousands}

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:01pm On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Chad has only been fighting for 6 weeks. Nigerian has been fighting for 6 years.

Chad has been attacked only once. Nigeria has been attacked over 300 times.

Chad did only one air combat and murdered 30 innocent civilians in their stupiidity inside Niger Republic. Nigeria has flown over 2,000 air combat operations yet we didn't murder innocent families.

Chad and South African have similar foolish incompetent military forces as you both watched Seleka Rebels reign supreme in Bangui.....a tale of two fools
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The Nigerian COAS,Brigadier Gen. kenneth Minnimah has already ordered chad to evacuate the part of dikwa that they purportedly 'captured',otherwise be treated as terrorists and subsequently suffer heavy aerial bombardment that is poised to occur in the town.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:10pm On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


No way! G-6 Rhino is an over 20 year old artillery system. The Bofors Archer 2013 version is far better !
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Archer Artillery System:
Rate of fire : 8-9 rounds/min
Weapons Range : 30km(standard shell)
40km (base bleed)
60km( Excalibur)

Range : 500 km
Speed : 65km/h

G6,G6-52:
Rate of fire :6-8 rounds/min (G6-52= 8 rounds/min)
Weapons range : 30km(standard)
39km-50km(base bleed)
58km-73km (V-lap)
Range :700km
Speed :85 km/h

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:15pm On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Your claim is false. Displaced persons are returning home. Only few dozens of civilians die . Boko Haram now dies in thousands from Nigerian Military firepower...or no Tv news in your village? Oh yes, no Tv, load shedding has plunged your Rainbow nation into pitch black darkness, your rainbow even shows no colours anymore, now it's all black and dark in South Africa thanks to Eskom....your laptop runs on battery, your browsing is mostly run with cell phone, your bedrooms run on candles....melting hot candle wax flows all over South Africa as as your country's electricity infrastructure declines uncontrollably.
@Oga agaugust,greetings to you.
i saw your comment: "....i was scratching my small coconut head.." on the general's blog,that got me laughing for 2 minutes straight *grin*
abeg,can you please enlighten me about why the nigerian military never released terrorist casualty figure for the Baga victory?,isnt it suppost to boost our PR offensive?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:46am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, South African literacy rate is about 40 % and much lower than Nigeria. Your white apartheid masters denied you education as "lesser human beings".

Literacy rate 93% includes illiterate local herbalists and pig farm laborers who speak one of the 10 local languages by birth as mother tongue, they have never been to school, yet they are deceitfully counted as literate for speaking a language like Zulu, etc because you have 10 such local language of illiterates legally recognized by ANC government along with English language the 11th official language.

Only the South Africans who speak English and graduated high school are literate, the rest are illiterate local language speakers and they form about 60 % of South African population.

Your real literary level is about 40 % in Soweto nation, thanks to 100 years of white-man's oppression of your fathers gringrin
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This is pathetic trolling at its worst

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:48am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


South Africa NEVER bought 236 Badger IFVs, you have ONLY about 6 for experimental tests.

You bought no new warships, missiles, torpedoes blah blah blah.....name the weapons and country of sale, and year of delivery, with photos of those 6 new ships in your navy.

You think we Nigerians are fools here that you can bamboozle with your tales by moonlight?
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Order for production of 236 has been placed and paid for

Order for serial production of A-darter missiles has been placed and paid for

Order for heavy-weight torpedoes has been placed and money allocated

Tenders for 6 new warships has been placed and money allocated
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:49am On Mar 04, 2015
Henry120:


The Rooivalk’s landing gear is unmodified. The main landing gear was developed and manufactured in France to South African specifications, while the tail landing gear was designed, developed and manufactured in South Africa by Denel.

The rotor blades, part of the main gearbox and part of the tail gearbox (including two bevel gears) are of French design but manufactured in South Africa under licence by Denel Aviation. The rotor head, however, is made in France. The driveshaft for the tail rotor was designed and manufactured in South Africa.



"There can be no doubt that the image of the Rooivalk has suffered as a result of misleading and exaggerated official propaganda in the early years of the programme."



Propaganda gulped by Patches689.

You just proved that barely any of the Rooivalk is french... and what is built by the french is designed by us!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:50am On Mar 04, 2015
Henry120:



The development of the Rooivalk proved to be technically very challenging, and budget cuts only compounded the problems. The original plan to build 36 production aircraft (plus the four prototypes) was abandoned and, in the end, only 12 were built.


Your initial order for 36 Rooivalk attack Helicopters were cut because you were BROKE(like we don't continue to see this with the SANDF almost on a daily basis), and not because of some cooked up doctrine.

Nope.

Because the size of the SANDF was cut from 400 000 men to roughly 90 000, hence why we have 131 MBT's, 94 Rooikat and about 666 Ratels in storage or reserve - left overs from the old days.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:51am On Mar 04, 2015
Henry120:


It's a Finnish vehicle, the only thing South-African in the Patria IFV is it's turret

- turret
- gun
- mortar
- missile
- suspension modifications
- IED protection
- optics
- communications equipment
- seats
- hull modifications

All South African, suck on that, bro
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:51am On Mar 04, 2015
iterator24:
Bros, the Patria AMV variant manufactured under licence as badger in SA is 90% Finnish ...Fact!

70% south african

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:52am On Mar 04, 2015
DieVluit:


The revenues from all Badger sales are south african.

Fact and ultimate test.

(((((BOOOM))))
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:55am On Mar 04, 2015
iterator24:

you've had the same argument with your compatriots in the past andrewza,

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32046:badger-ifv-industrialisation-starts-in-earnest-with-first-production-model-expected-in-2015&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242


The hull is Swedish you chuckle-Bleep

Whats inside the hull is South African, and has allready been sold to other countries
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:56am On Mar 04, 2015
iterator24:
Finland gets her cut on every unit of badger produced in SA... fact!

So what?

Your entire arsenal is composed of foreign products... and none of your IFV's compare to the Patria

See the disconnect here?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:57am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


Europeans are pocketing all the money/revenue from Badger engine and components parts sales. Stop fvcking yourself dude grin

CITATION DESPERATELY NEEDED
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:59am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


The 5000 innocent Nigerian civilians wounded/killed and 1,5 million displaced while under Nigerian army protection DO NOT SEE ANY Nigerian army victory because there is none in reality
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Fixed that for you
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:00am On Mar 04, 2015
lezz:
you call an act of tterrorism a civil war? Get real, you can do better.

One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:02am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


Your claim is false. Displaced persons are returning home. Only few dozens of civilians die . Boko Haram now dies in thousands from Nigerian Military firepower...or no Tv news in your village? Oh yes, no Tv, load shedding has plunged your Rainbow nation into pitch black darkness, your rainbow even shows no colours anymore, now it's all black and dark in South Africa thanks to Eskom....your laptop runs on battery, your browsing is mostly run with cell phone, your bedrooms run on candles....melting hot candle wax flows all over South Africa as as your country's electricity infrastructure declines uncontrollably.

over 5000 dead civilians

1,5 million displaced

Nigerian Army advance is along a small axis along the MSR to Chad (and bypasses the major BH pocket)

You have a long way to go
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:04am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


No way! G-6 Rhino is an over 20 year old artillery system. The Bofors Archer 2013 version is far better !
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How is it better?

Age is nothing in military equipment.

Abrams is over 20 years old, and will still whoop Russia's brand new T90's or Armata's and China's Type 99's
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30am On Mar 04, 2015
DieVluit:


And in those 6 weeks, they liberated Nigerian towns.

Nigeria has spent 6 years with no tangible results, until Chad came along.

Be ashamed.

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Nope, it is you South Africans that should be ashamed of your 50,000 soldiers sleeping in bed with their wives at home while they abandoned the innocent civilians of C.A.R Bangui to their fate in the claws of Seleka rebels, Nigeria NEVER abandoned Liberia and Sierra Leone for 10 years, 10 whole years, until the war ended and peace came with a new democratic elections. South African army has NO courage to do that, so all you 50 million South Africans should forever be ashamed of your disgraceful cowardly history grin grin grin


Chad liberated Nigeria where, how many towns confirmed?

Chad told lies they liberated Baga, Reuters of France said no !

Chad claimed they liberated Dikwa, Reuters of France said no !

Reuters of France gave 100% credit of Baga liberation to Nigerian army, and 100% planned liberation of Dikwa to Nigerian army next stage plans and 100% ongoing air bombardment of Dikwa to Nigerian air force......Chad has NO air force to show the world grin grin grin

France, the masters of Chad are now denying the Chadian claims exposing them as lies and fraud.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-nigeria-violence-chad-insight-idUSKBN0LZ0DS20150303

So, Chad has been telling massive lies all over the news media, if you love that, then you are a man without honour and moral values by birth.



Chad liberated only one empty town confirmed...Gamborou and with heavy losses across the border from Gamboru....40 Chadian soldiers dead/wounded, 20 Cameroonians dead/wounded, 600 Cameroonian civilians dead/wounded.....If that looks like success to you, then no wonder South African military so much respects Chadian army, they are military failures just like your SANDF cowards grin grin grin

Nigerian army rules black Africa !
.[/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01am On Mar 04, 2015
Patchesagain:


Fixed that for you

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Stop editing my posts and inserting words I did not say, then you write... "Fixed that for you"

Write your own arguments separately and don't attach my name to posts you have inserted your own words into....

Do it again and I we will mess up this thread because I will massively retaliate and this forum will scatter !

I did not say what you edited below, better stop it ! Or I strike back ![/size]

agaugust:


The 5000 innocent Nigerian civilians wounded/killed and 1,5 million displaced while under Nigerian army protection DO NOT SEE ANY Nigerian army victory because there is none in reality

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:08am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


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Nope, it is you South Africans that should be ashamed of your 50,000 soldiers sleeping in bed with their wives at home while they abandoned the innocent civilians of C.A.R Bangui to their fate in the claws of Seleka rebels, Nigeria NEVER abandoned Liberia and Sierra Leone for 10 years, 10 whole years, until the war ended and peace came with a new democratic elections. South African army has NO courage to do that, so all you 50 million South Africans should forever be ashamed of your disgraceful cowardly history grin grin grin


Chad liberated Nigeria where, how many towns confirmed?

Chad told lies they liberated Baga, Reuters of France said no !

Chad claimed they liberated Dikwa, Reuters of France said no !

Reuters of France gave 100% credit of Baga liberation to Nigerian army, and 100% planned liberation of Dikwa to Nigerian army next stage plans and 100% ongoing air bombardment of Dikwa to Nigerian air force......Chad has NO air force to show the world grin grin grin

France, the masters of Chad are now denying the Chadian claims exposing them as lies and fraud.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-nigeria-violence-chad-insight-idUSKBN0LZ0DS20150303

So, Chad has been telling massive lies all over the news media, if you love that, then you are a man without honour and moral values by birth.



Chad liberated only one empty town confirmed...Gamborou and with heavy losses across the border from Gamboru....40 Chadian soldiers dead/wounded, 20 Cameroonians dead/wounded, 600 Cameroonian civilians dead/wounded.....If that looks like success to you, then no wonder South African military so much respects Chadian army, they are military failures just like your SANDF cowards grin grin grin

Nigerian army rules black Africa !
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The hight of delusion.

Chad has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they are the most effective military in the region in both Conventional and COIN warfare

They humiliated Gaddafi's army and now they are liberating the people of Nigeria!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:09am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


[size=13pt]
Do it again and I we will mess up this thread because I will massively retaliate and this forum will scatter ![/size]

You have allready ruined this thread


Who cares, this is nothing more than a Nigerian troll fest
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:15am On Mar 04, 2015
DieVluit:


How does that support your argument, which you have lost already, that Chad is useless because civilians died under their watch?

Means the Chadian army is incompetent, Cameroon invited them to guard Cameroon, they left their duty post to cross border into Gamboru to make public image and hunt for glory in Nigeria, 600 Cameroonians bleed to death/hospital as a result of 2,000 Chadian soldiers abandoning their duty post, in a standard army, and by universal martial law, all those 2,000 Chadian troops will be tried in court martial for abandoning their duty post leading to massive loss of lives under their protection.....The Chadian army will be in jail by now, not on YouTube claiming 'victory'....Fools....just like South Africans....Fools !

In military law and doctrine, you watch where you are told to watch.....I have been education your blocked b.rain for one week now, learn !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:20am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


Means the Chadian army is incompetent, Cameroon invited them to guard Cameroon, they left their duty post to cross border into Gamboru to make public image and hunt for glory in Nigeria, 600 Cameroonians bleed to death/hospital as a result of 2,000 Chadian soldiers abandoning their duty post, in a standard army, and by universal martial law, all those 2,000 Chadian troops will be tried in court martial for abandoning their duty post leading to massive loss of lives under their protection.....The Chadian army will be in jail by now, not on YouTube claiming 'victory'....Fools....just like South Africans....Fools !

In military law and doctrine, you watch where you are told to watch.....I have been education your blocked b.rain for one week now, learn !
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LOL

Says the guys whos army lost an area the size of belgium to the enemy

Every single male of military age in nigeria should then be tried for abandoning their posts
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:21am On Mar 04, 2015
Patchesagain:


You have allready ruined this thread

Who cares, this is nothing more than a Nigerian troll fest

I d.em.olish all your arguments grin grin

Plus Chad's army has been proved a mumu under Nigeria's military command.

Then SANDF, AU, Uganda, UN, etc nobody is sending any such military forces to help Nigeria....we have saved ourselves, we proved it with many weblinks and it hurts you so badly you begin to contemplate suicide.....then your fear of going to h.ell fire for your many sins won't let you k.ill yourself grin grin

#Tormented grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:22am On Mar 04, 2015
Patchesagain:


LOL

Says the guys whos army lost an area the size of belgium to the enemy

Every single male of military age in nigeria should then be tried for abandoning their posts

Yes they were all tried and those guilty sentenced to death....story all over the news....Most disciplined army in the world....Nigerian army
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:24am On Mar 04, 2015
Patchesagain:


The hight of delusion.

Chad has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they are the most effective military in the region in both Conventional and COIN warfare

They humiliated Gaddafi's army and now they are liberating the people of Nigeria!

France with Jaguar jets and battalions of special forces defeated Libya that was already cruising Ghaddafi's victorious army close to Chad's capital city, I proved that here last month with international sources of repute. Stop repeating lies on this thread.

Chad never fights and wins a war without France. Fighting alone 3 times, Chad lost to Nigeria in ALL border wars.

As we speak now, France's mighty Rafale jet fighters are flying missions inside Chad along border with Nigeria

Chadian air force = ZERO = South African air force tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:29am On Mar 04, 2015
jln115:

Archer Artillery System:
Rate of fire : 8-9 rounds/min
Weapons Range : 30km(standard shell)
40km (base bleed)
60km( Excalibur)

Range : 500 km
Speed : 65km/h

G6,G6-52:
Rate of fire :6-8 rounds/min (G6-52= 8 rounds/min)
Weapons range : 30km(standard)
39km-50km(base bleed)
58km-73km (V-lap)
Range :700km
Speed :85 km/h

Your data has errors, what is the source ?

G-6 Rhino is a 20 year old 1990s technology now becoming obsolete.

Archer is 2 year old 2013 technology and worlds most sophisticated, far superior to the G-6.

You compare things that don't matter in artillery war, I compare technology/systems/accuracy/targeting/magnification/combat history etc.

Bofors Archer is king !


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:33am On Mar 04, 2015
Patchesagain:


Order for production of 236 has been placed and paid for

Order for serial production of A-darter missiles has been placed and paid for

Order for heavy-weight torpedoes has been placed and money allocated

Tenders for 6 new warships has been placed and money allocated

No, you paid for 6 Badgers and got stuck when broke.

No ships, missiles, torpedoes with no names and no contract information of supplier/manufacturer.

You told lie SANDF is adding 40,000 new soldiers and kept lying until @andrewza said it's only 4,000 men.

[size=13pt] 90% of your comments on this forum are deliberate lies and fraud ! Barawo Banza !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:57am On Mar 04, 2015
agaugust:


Your data has errors, what is the source ?

G-6 Rhino is a 20 year old 1990s technology now becoming obsolete.

Archer is 2 year old 2013 technology and worlds most sophisticated, far superior to the G-6.

You compare things that don't matter in artillery war, I compare technology/systems/accuracy/targeting/magnification/combat history etc.

Bofors Archer is king !


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"You compare things that don't matter in artillery war" so weapons range, range,speed,rounds/min dont matter in an artillery war!!!!!
Wel....l already knew you where an idi0t.
Any way as for the G6s accuracy how about firing multiple rounds from 38km with all the rounds landing within 5m of the target!

www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-290906341.html

And secondly please provide a citation to back up your claims next time...your opinion doesnt count.

and lastly if the G6 is so outdated why did the UAE buy more than 70 systems?

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