lezz:
pre 1994 south Africa was in every sense not an African country but an extension of racist/apartheid Europe. You were not of that south Africa. Matter of fact, 92% of south Africans were not of that south Africa: Zulus, half breed Zulus (coloured), Jews, Indians etc. That south Africa before 1994 was white European country situated in Africa. Do I feel you nodding in silence endowment of learning?

Now let's talk about south Africa as an African country starting from 1994. You have been an embarrassment to Africans. From supporting ghadafi, to endorsing Laurent gbagbo, to being isolated in Africa in 1996. And being militarily butchered in DRC.

Nigerian on the other hand has had Africa as her foreign policy since 1963 long before south Africa was even admitted into an African gathering. Nigeria was a front runner state fighting for your freedom, she boycotted the common wealth games, had economic blockade with Britain and spent $60 million dollars for your freedom in the 80's. You are the usurper and new boys in Africa.

We were already an African power before when south Africa was just a European country with your forbears driven into mountains and forests.

The only grouse I have with south Africans is their utter lack of sense of hierarchy and appreciation. And an ignorant sense of their true position amongst African countries.

mzilakazi:



FOOL!!! THE FOCUS IS NOT ABOUT WHO OWNS FORD, IT HAS TO DO MORE WITH WHERE THE ENGINE IS PRODUCED.

mzilakazi:



YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT APARTHEID WAS AS BAD AS EGYPT WHEN THE PHARAOHS MALTREATED THE ISRAELITES. APARTHEID WAS MERELY THE POLICY OF SEPARATION THAT SOUGHT TO DIVIDE SOUTH AFRICA ALONG RACIAL LINES, BUT IT COULD NOT PROGRESS. IT WANTED ALL BLACKS, COLOUREDS AND INDIANS TO HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AND SEPARATE AMENITIES LIVING IN SELF-GOVERNING HOMELANDS. ALTHOUGH IT ACHIEVED SOME OF ITS OBJECTIVES IT WAS NEVER AS BAD AS EGYPT. BLACKS STILL ENJOYED BASIC SERVICES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS WHAT WHITES WERE OFFERED.

stillchris:


Bloody illiterate. Manufacturing/assembly is not the same as invent/create/innovation.

We can as well say iPhone is Chinese since they are manufactured over there.

Bloody fool. Stop displaying your foolishness

mzilakazi:



SIMPLE GDP NUMBERS CAN NEVER MAKE YOU BIG AND YOUR PROJECTION START IN WEST AFRICA AND END THERE. SA ECONOMIC POWER PROJECTIONS START FROM CAPE TO CAIRO. WE HAVE CONQUERED AFRICA.

stillchris:


Why are you getting all emotional and typing in caps? Are you hurt?

Henry120:
[b]Ventures Africa has launched its second annual ranking of Africa’s wealthiest people at richlist.ventures-africa.com. The Richest People in Africa list remains the most comprehensive compilation of the continent’s wealthiest individuals.
In 2014, we counted 55 African billionaires with a net worth totalling $161.7 billion, a 12.4 percent rise from $143.8 billion in 2013. This year Africa welcomed five new billionaires, four of whom are Nigerian.

Reclusive industrialist, Cletus Ibeto, leads the newcomers with $3.7 billion in net worth. Oil mogul, Benedict Peters, Tony Elumelu, Chairman of UBA Group and founder of Heirs Holdings, Samih Sawiris of Egyptian multi-business conglomerate, Orascom Group, and Akanimu Udofia complete the list.
Key findings from the research include:
The average net worth of the continent’s wealthiest people is $2.9 billion. The median age is 63 years.
Mohammed Dewji of Tanzania and Igho Sanomi, a Nigerian oil trader, remain the continent’s youngest billionaires. They are both 39 years old. Moroccan businessman Miloud Chaabi, Kenyan industrialist Manu Chandaria, and Mohammed Al-Fayed, the Egyptian property tycoon, are Africa’s oldest billionaires.
Folorunsho Alakija, the richest black woman in the world, is worth $7.3 billion dollars. She is followed by the daughter of Angolan President Jose Eduardo Dos Santos, Isabel dos Santos who is now worth $3.5 billion.
The most common industries in which African billionaires have made their money are: construction, financial services, oil and gas, manufacturing and real estate.
Aliko Dangote, founder of Africa’s largest industrial conglomerate Dangote Group, remains the continent’s richest man. His net worth has grown to $25.7 billion, a 21% rise from his $20.2 billion valuation in 2013.
Nigeria, South Africa and Egypt have the most billionaires. Nigeria leads the pack with 23 while South Africa and Egypt both contribute eight each. In total twelve African countries are represented on the list.
Africa’s wealthiest individuals provide jobs for almost half a million people within the continent.
Chi-Chi Okonjo, Founder of Ventures Africa, said: “The Ventures Africa Rich List is the most authoritative accounting of individual African wealth. We have been able to do so because of our on-the-ground experience and detailed knowledge of the local African business landscape.”
The list has been compiled using financial reports, by tracking equity holdings around stock markets and identifying specific shareholding structures in large, privately-held companies. The [/b]results have been corroborated with investment bankers, realtors and financial analysts to determine proper valuations.[/b]

mzilakazi:



THERE ARE AS WELL MANY CARS WHICH WERE DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED IN SOUTH AFRICA.

mzilakazi:


I PREFER TO USE CAPS AND NOT TO SAY THAT I AM SHOUTING BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN WELL WITH MY TASTE. THERE IS NOTHING SO EMBARRASSING IN LIFE TO BE CORRECTED ON CAPS WHENEVER YOU ARE WRONG.

stillchris:
Which translates to you being hurt

stillchris:

Engines dummy. That's what you were yapping about.
Any country can design a vehicle.

Henry120:
[b]Ventures Africa has launched its second annual ranking of Africa’s wealthiest people at richlist.ventures-africa.com. The Richest People in Africa list remains the most comprehensive compilation of the continent’s wealthiest individuals.
In 2014, we counted 55 African billionaires with a net worth totalling $161.7 billion, a 12.4 percent rise from $143.8 billion in 2013. This year Africa welcomed five new billionaires, four of whom are Nigerian.

Reclusive industrialist, Cletus Ibeto, leads the newcomers with $3.7 billion in net worth. Oil mogul, Benedict Peters, Tony Elumelu, Chairman of UBA Group and founder of Heirs Holdings, Samih Sawiris of Egyptian multi-business conglomerate, Orascom Group, and Akanimu Udofia complete the list.
Key findings from the research include:
The average net worth of the continent’s wealthiest people is $2.9 billion. The median age is 63 years.
Mohammed Dewji of Tanzania and Igho Sanomi, a Nigerian oil trader, remain the continent’s youngest billionaires. They are both 39 years old. Moroccan businessman Miloud Chaabi, Kenyan industrialist Manu Chandaria, and Mohammed Al-Fayed, the Egyptian property tycoon, are Africa’s oldest billionaires.
Folorunsho Alakija, the richest black woman in the world, is worth $7.3 billion dollars. She is followed by the daughter of Angolan President Jose Eduardo Dos Santos, Isabel dos Santos who is now worth $3.5 billion.
The most common industries in which African billionaires have made their money are: construction, financial services, oil and gas, manufacturing and real estate.
Aliko Dangote, founder of Africa’s largest industrial conglomerate Dangote Group, remains the continent’s richest man. His net worth has grown to $25.7 billion, a 21% rise from his $20.2 billion valuation in 2013.
Nigeria, South Africa and Egypt have the most billionaires. Nigeria leads the pack with 23 while South Africa and Egypt both contribute eight each. In total twelve African countries are represented on the list.
Africa’s wealthiest individuals provide jobs for almost half a million people within the continent.
Chi-Chi Okonjo, Founder of Ventures Africa, said: “The Ventures Africa Rich List is the most authoritative accounting of individual African wealth. We have been able to do so because of our on-the-ground experience and detailed knowledge of the local African business landscape.”
The list has been compiled using financial reports, by tracking equity holdings around stock markets and identifying specific shareholding structures in large, privately-held companies. The [/b]results have been corroborated with investment bankers, realtors and financial analysts to determine proper valuations.[/b]

agaugust:


That`s a different Beechcraft you dummy, the call sign numbers and colours are different you one eyed pirate ! I thought you said your eyeball is = ISTAR.....yet you cannot spot the difference in simple aircraft photos .....mumu pirate

This is a most unnecessary argument that Andrewza and I have thrashed for many days on this forum last year, NAF has Beechcraft ISTAR, I won`t entertain this argument again next time.


PHOTO 1 : NAF Beechcraft transport with no belly radar dome

PHOTO 2 : NAF Beechcraft ISTAR with big belly radar dome for ISTAR

PHOTO 3 : One eyed Patches the Southie pirate
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Patchesagain:


cite where he said that

Doesnt change the fact that a plethora of evidence has been produced regarding the use of LinkZA by multiple systems in the SANDF

agaugust:


3 years ago, @Andrewza your SAN navy officer said South Africa is buying Gowind corvettes under project Biro, have you got them since 3 years?

AugustineAgain:



Military researcher, yes I am. Find a cure for your inferiority complex

Those pilots could wear a uniform of their training academy in Turkey or the manufacturers flying school uniform, yes it happens, in NATO countries of which Turkey is a member, some non government flying schools have special uniforms for students. Nobody knows the school they are in Turkey and nobody knows what uniform may be used there.

The uniform is Somali, that's what ALL of us on this forum did not know, I was the one who put it on the African photo forum and @africaken who is expert on uniforms in East Africa said it is Somalian uniform, nobody else here could identify it.

Your navy officer in SANDF navy, @andrewza has Lynx helicopters in his navy and he sees them, yet he does not know a Nigerian Lynx has radar inside the nose, then you should say he is a fake military man or fake naval officer telling lies that he works for South African navy !

Nobody is this world knows all things about all militaries all over the world 100%, not even the American military joint chief of staff ! There are millions and millions of military data, images, photos, information spread all over the world, anybody who claims to know it all is playing God and is as big liar.

Now military researcher, yes I am, it gives you inferiority complex, yes it does, your problem not mine.

I know enough to challenge the 3 chief of staffs in SANDF, SAN, SAAF all together at the same time, never mind you fraudulent guys here who say SAAF Gripen jets have air to ground missiles that you all could not tell us the missile name for the past 7 days

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ddami:
Now this thread deserves to be closed

andrewza:


why, this thread is a rubbish dump. You don't close down a rubbish dump because it smells. If that happens the rubbish piles up every where and instead of a smelly rubbish dump you get a smelly city.

andrewza:


why, this thread is a rubbish dump. You don't close down a rubbish dump because it smells. If that happens the rubbish piles up every where and instead of a smelly rubbish dump you get a smelly city.

ddami:
Now this thread deserves to be closed

mzilakazi:



FOOL!!! THE FOCUS IS NOT ABOUT WHO OWNS FORD, IT HAS TO DO MORE WITH WHERE THE ENGINE IS PRODUCED.

mzilakazi:



YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT APARTHEID WAS AS BAD AS EGYPT WHEN THE PHARAOHS MALTREATED THE ISRAELITES. APARTHEID WAS MERELY THE POLICY OF SEPARATION THAT SOUGHT TO DIVIDE SOUTH AFRICA ALONG RACIAL LINES, BUT IT COULD NOT PROGRESS. IT WANTED ALL BLACKS, COLOUREDS AND INDIANS TO HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AND SEPARATE AMENITIES LIVING IN SELF-GOVERNING HOMELANDS. ALTHOUGH IT ACHIEVED SOME OF ITS OBJECTIVES IT WAS NEVER AS BAD AS EGYPT. BLACKS STILL ENJOYED BASIC SERVICES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AxS WHAT WHITES WERE OFFERED.

EVarn:
A disastrous proposition my friend.
Men do love to talk about fighting and battle,the same way women love to gossip and giggle.
*smile* Pride wont allow anyone surrender,anyway,everyone here knows the true military champion on the continent,but nothing wrong in occassional intellectual debates and educating revelations.
I fear your proposition will meet stiff resistance.

mzilakazi:



YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT APARTHEID WAS AS BAD AS EGYPT WHEN THE PHARAOHS MALTREATED THE ISRAELITES. APARTHEID WAS MERELY THE POLICY OF SEPARATION THAT SOUGHT TO DIVIDE SOUTH AFRICA ALONG RACIAL LINES, BUT IT COULD NOT PROGRESS. IT WANTED ALL BLACKS, COLOUREDS AND INDIANS TO HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AND SEPARATE AMENITIES LIVING IN SELF-GOVERNING HOMELANDS. ALTHOUGH IT ACHIEVED SOME OF ITS OBJECTIVES IT WAS NEVER AS BAD AS EGYPT. BLACKS STILL ENJOYED BASIC SERVICES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS WHAT WHITES WERE OFFERED.

mzilakazi:



YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT APARTHEID WAS AS BAD AS EGYPT WHEN THE PHARAOHS MALTREATED THE ISRAELITES. APARTHEID WAS MERELY THE POLICY OF SEPARATION THAT SOUGHT TO DIVIDE SOUTH AFRICA ALONG RACIAL LINES, BUT IT COULD NOT PROGRESS. IT WANTED ALL BLACKS, COLOUREDS AND INDIANS TO HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AND SEPARATE AMENITIES LIVING IN SELF-GOVERNING HOMELANDS. ALTHOUGH IT ACHIEVED SOME OF ITS OBJECTIVES IT WAS NEVER AS BAD AS EGYPT. BLACKS STILL ENJOYED BASIC SERVICES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AxS WHAT WHITES WERE OFFERED.

lezz:
The Israelites were prisoners of war taken to Egypt as slaves. Zulus are made slave in their own country

lezz:
The Israelites were prisoners of war taken to Egypt as slaves.

mzilakazi:



THERE ARE AS WELL MANY CARS WHICH WERE DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED IN SOUTH AFRICA.

andrewza:


Some one does not know history or ever read the bible since neither version has the Jewish people being taken to Egypt as slaves. I think you confusing your ancient civilizations here.

ddami:
lezz its okay, let's just stop this.... mzilakazi will definitely not agree with you and you will stand on what you are saying..... you guyz should just agree to disagree....you guyz should be friends 'cos i know he's not your friend but co-debater/opposition party.....
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