tonybank01:
A question passed to me is that do governor of each state as authority over Oba like ooni of ife, awujale, alafin of oyo, Oba of Benin and other kings in yourba land after they have been crowned as a king

efighter:
All traditional rulers are under the control of Local Government Chairmen.

Amarabae:
Even a local government chairman has constitutional power over any king in his domain.

Amarabae:
Even a local government chairman has constitutional power over any king in his domain.

OlujobaSamuel:

nope according to dignitary protocols, kings are ahead of lga chairman, however they are subject to power of the commissioner for local govt and chieftancy affairs.
@op, yes, a governor can remove any king within his state or query or summon him without an explanation, eg, constituted authority 1 of Oyo Land.

Amarabae:
Even a local government chairman has constitutional power over any king in his domain.

MayorofLagos:


Not true in Yorubaland, maybe elsewhere.

An Oba's domain can overlap into two or more LGAs. Only the Governor of a state has the power. When creating states the Obas are consulted to make sure the boundary respect their customary authority and they do not end up under two Governors.

OlujobaSamuel:

nope according to dignitary protocols, kings are ahead of lga chairman, however they are subject to power of the commissioner for local govt and chieftancy affairs.
@op, yes, a governor can remove any king within his state or query or summon him without an explanation, eg, constituted authority 1 of Oyo Land.

Amarabae:
okay.
Noted

MayorofLagos:


Not true in Yorubaland, maybe elsewhere.

An Oba's domain can overlap into two or more LGAs. Only the Governor of a state has the power. When creating states the Obas are consulted to make sure the boundary respect their customary authority and they do not end up under two Governors.

MayorofLagos:


I was reading one of your posts other day. You are a determined woman to stand strong against ipob attacks and I applaud you. You also contribute very intelligently. Please keep it up. Nice!

aribisala0:

Remove without explanation

nwabobo:


Yes, they do. Sultan of Sokoto, Ibrahim Dasuki was deposed by the government.

OlujobaSamuel:

yes, when the explanation doesnt invalidates the removal in law, then I think I'm on point to use the word remove without an explanation.
Governor can depose a king for just any reason, na only noise for town we go hear, declare curfew if noise too much, when they don calm, lift the curfew make everyone dey enjoy again.
Oba cant sue the govt as to removal, most suit in respect to stools are about who is entitled to be the crowned king based on ranking or lineage.
NB: Dasuki; sultan of sokoto. Will try check if there is any king deposed and was restored through law, for now, i cant remember one.
cc: Mayoroflagos

yarimo:
DASUKI was deposed by a president and not a governor, a governor from another state don't have authority to another king of another state.

MayorofLagos:


In pre-colonial Yorubaland the kingmakers can send a parrot egg or covered calabash to a sitting King and depose him at will....they still have to give a cogent explanation to the subjects.

The Oba council protect one another against government excesses and if a Governor should dare remove an Oba without due reason they will use the grassroot to make the state ungovernable for such person. If an excess goes unchecked they never know whose turn it would be next to be deposed....so the Governors know how to act in power sharing with the Oba councils.

Im only speaking forYorubaland, dont know how itbis played elsewhere.

**if i may add, an erring Oba is first regerred to the cohncil for correction. If correction is not taken, a mediation process is used to admonish and set things right. So there are step processes the Governor must use before taking an Oba's Staff of Office from him.**

OlujobaSamuel:

yes, when the explanation doesnt invalidates the removal in law, then I think I'm on point to use the word remove without an explanation.
Governor can depose a king for just any reason, na only noise for town we go hear, declare curfew if noise too much, when they don calm, lift the curfew make everyone dey enjoy again.
Oba cant sue the govt as to removal, most suit in respect to stools are about who is entitled to be the crowned king based on ranking or lineage.
NB: Dasuki; sultan of sokoto. Will try check if there is any king deposed and was restored through law, for now, i cant remember one.
cc: Mayoroflagos

aribisala0:

I think you are talking nonsense.

Dasuki was removed by a military government. And yes government often acts lawlessly but the idea that that you can remove without explanation is foolish.I do not need to debate that.
Oba cant sue as to removal? Why not?

Was Jokolo not removed as Emir did he not sue.Did the Appealcourt not reinstate him? The case isnowwith the Supreme court

You don't know,
and don't know you lack knowledge but you think you know everything

ODVanguard:


You are correct. A sitting governor can dethrone a monarch but he must justify his reasons in accordance with due process. To buttress your position, the late former governor of Ogun, Olabisi Onabanjo, once dethroned the Awujale (the current one), but the decision was reversed some years later by the courts.

aribisala0:

I think you are talking nonsense.

Dasuki was removed by a military government. And yes government often acts lawlessly but the idea that that you can remove without explanation is foolish.I do not need to debate that.
Oba cant sue as to removal? Why not?

Was Jokolo not removed as Emir did he not sue.Did the Appealcourt not reinstate him? The case isnowwith the Supreme court

You don't know,
and don't know you lack knowledge but you think you know everything

OlujobaSamuel:

Can you at least calm yourself and read, I never at any point claim absolute knowledge on any subject, this inclusive.
I said I will check through because I've not seen, I saw the case you cited now, there was a breach of the state law on chieftancy issues, in as much as we have this law in all state, you cant say the contents are all the same, so also the removal clause cant be the same.
Kindly note, no absolute knowlege in law, it's all about how you table your case.
Thanks.

MayorofLagos:


In pre-colonial Yorubaland the kingmakers can send a parrot egg or covered calabash to a sitting King and depose him at will....they still have to give a cogent explanation to the subjects.

The Oba council protect one another against government excesses and if a Governor should dare remove an Oba without due reason they will use the grassroot to make the state ungovernable for such person. If an excess goes unchecked they never know whose turn it would be next to be deposed....so the Governors know how to act in power sharing with the Oba councils.

Im only speaking forYorubaland, dont know how itbis played elsewhere.

**if i may add, an erring Oba is first regerred to the cohncil for correction. If correction is not taken, a mediation process is used to admonish and set things right. So there are step processes the Governor must use before taking an Oba's Staff of Office from him.**