The context is different. The background to the Ikwerre bible was a rejection of the Igbo bible with strong agitation that it was imposed on them and was blurring their identity. This is well articulate in the link i posted above ; OTONTI NDUKA

Well perhaps you should read the link i posted and study what the linguist Kay Williamson had to say on the subject. Her research is quite old and well cited

ChinenyeN:

That's what I'm saying. No one can/will linguistically dispute that it is an Igbo Bible.

She also published an Igbo dictionary so she should know

she said;
that the Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ogba, Etche and Igbo languages belonged to the same language cluster of related languages, but maintained that they are not dialects of each other

The last time I attended a Church in near P.H (in Ikwerreland), the service was in English with an Igbo translator. This sort of thing is not done outside Igboland. I remember some churches in Yorubaland do the same for example sermon in Yoruba with an English translator.
It is so shameful that a non Ikwerre Aribisala0) is hear wasting his time in an attempt to divide Ndigbo.

aribisala0:

Well perhaps you should read the link i posted and study what the linguist Kay Williamson had to say on the subject. Her research is quite old and well citedShe also published an Igbo dictionary so she should know
she said;
that the Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ogba, Etche and Igbo languages belonged to the same language cluster of related languages, but maintained that they are not dialects of each other

I don't understand the point of this post. Is it supposed to be directed at me? Or were you just quoting/referencing me?

ChinenyeN:

That's what I'm saying. No one can/will linguistically dispute that it is an Igbo Bible.

i was pointing you in the direction of such a dispute

ChinenyeN:

I don't understand the point of this post. Is it supposed to be directed at me? Or were you just quoting/referencing me?

i was reponding to what you posted. If you would rather i did not do so tell me and i will desist.
my post was in DIRECT response to what you wrote!

Oh. Alright.

Well, first of all, when I say linguistically Igbo, I'm not talking about some phantom "Igbo language", and all other tongues falling under "Igbo".

As for Kay Williams (which is beside my point), it does not matter what she said. As an Ngwa, who speaks Ngwa fluently and is also very familiar with Etche, I can definitively state that if Etche is categorized as not being a dialect of "Igbo", then Ngwa also should not be under the "Igbo" categorization.

And should Ngwa be so classed??

If that is how Kay thought to class Etche, then definitively, yes.

now i remember one of our earlier encounters . you were a bit reticent about whether your language is igbo

Why didn't the silly woman class Mbaise or my own Isinweke?.

aribisala0:

now i remember one of our earlier encounters . you were a bit reticent about whether your language is igbo

With good cause.

Why did the fed govt hire Kay Williams to class Igbo dialects and no Yoruba dialects. Does the later have no dialects?.

Jonathan is on Facebook why not ask him

aribisala0:

Jonathan is on Facebook why not ask him

That promiscous bigot -Kay Williams was hired before GEJ's adm, so no point asking him. Most things discussed here also happened before GEJ's adm.
Your aim here is to preach division among Igbo groups.

For those who have been ignorantly arguing let us look at ethnologue report.

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=2109-16

As I had always maintained only Ekpeye is Igboid, the others are Igbo. In the link above, Igbo was broken down into 6 types of Igbo.There are two Igboid languages viz Ekpeye and Igbo. Igbo has been broken down to nearly 20 separate Igbo languages in the most recent ethnologue. Izzi is now separate from Ezza and Ikwo while Abiriba, Ehugbo and Etche have been given a new language status. Etche has never been classified separately until this latest one which has over 20 Igbo  languages. Kay Williamson could not establish enough difference to say any of the languages are totally different from the rest except Ekpeye.

Who even taught Kay Williamson Igbo that she now sees herself as an Igbo language expert? All these oyibos sef, thinking they are smarter than africans? lol

Anyone knows what parts of Nigeria she lived before her death?

Andre Uweh:

Why did the fed govt hire Kay Williams to class Igbo dialects and no Yoruba dialects. Does the later have no dialects?.

I dont think she was hired by the FG, she be self-imposed 'expert' on Igbo studies. lol

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

when we all remain silent no one knows who is foolish. It is only when we speak that all doubt is removed

aribisala0:

when we all remain silent no one knows who is foolish. It is only when we speak that all doubt is removed

Then let Ndikwerre speak. Not you.

You guys should please leave aribisala to wallow in his ignorance. Why argue with someone who's not Ikwerre.

afam better leave your mother to wallow in her foolishness. if she was not foolish enough to open her fetid   yansh you won't be here today. mad woman

afam4eva:

You guys should please leave aribisala to wallow in his foolishness. Why argue with someone who's not Ikwerre.

aribisala0:

afam better leave your mother to wallow in her foolishness. if she was not foolish enough to open her fulminant yansh you won't be here today. mad woman

Why e dey pain you. I never intended for a sentence to hurt your feelings. Go here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-826801.0.html before it's too late.

Who said anything about pain. Your word not mine ask your epileptic mother to jump in front of a trailer if the shame is too much for you
i will certainly pray for her not to see the New Year.
May Ogun strike the lunatic dead!

aribisala0:

Who said anything about pain. Your word not mine ask your epileptic mother to jump in front of a trailer if the shame is too much for you
i will certainly pray for her not to see the New Year.
May Ogun strike the lunatic dead!

The world is losing thousands of people to suicide everywhere. It's never too late. Go here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-826801.0.htm.

Your mama suicide

aribisala0:

Your mama suicide

It seems you have multiple illness.

Try this also http://psychcentral.com/therapy/

Back at your mama. Una no go see her dead body. na dog and vulture go chop am

It's never too late my brother. Don't despair, help is on the way http://psychcentral.com/therapy/

right back at your mother. sadly it is too late for her. she no go hear the sound of trailer before she cross road

Ogun go do the rest. Ase!

Ogun go play with una enter new year

aribisala0:

right back at your mother. sadly it is too late for her. she no go hear the sound of trailer before she cross road

You can try this too http://www.sw-mins.org/Deliverance_ministries.htm

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