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Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by erico2k2(m): 3:53pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:I like to say you are talking lubish . But thats my opinion . Now tell me from what country can one import and land petrol at N145 . ?? I'm waring for the name of the country that supplies us petrol @145 |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by 400billionman: 3:56pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai: This one is writing from Mars.. Oluku.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:01pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
StudyCrestLtd: 1. If we stopped importing today, there would be really serious fuel scarcity in Nigeria. We need 70 million liters of PMS daily. 20 million of that can be produced from our four refineries for now.So...we have to import. 2.Because prices are set by the govt, most marketers cannot import fuel directly since they don't make enough profit to import...and importers want to be paid in DOLLARS. NNPC for now is our sole importer of fuel...because they have access to cash most independent marketers dont. 3.NNPC until this month was importing fuel at N132 per liter (landing cost). About a few weeks ago, NNPC started importing fuel at N141-2 per liter. Meanwhile, marketers have to sell fuel at N145 per liter..while losing N10 per liter of their profits overnight. Hence the queues. 4.Dangote MIGHT solve part of the fuel deficit issue...BUT we still need more refineries. That is where the mini refineries are supposed to come in. Wonder why they haven't started? 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by SoNature(m): 4:08pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
ken4jj: Indeed, Buhari experience has taught me that integrity doesn't solve a problem, but skill and intelligence do. I have no doubt that Buhari is not an intelligent man. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by SalamRushdie: 4:10pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
cescky: Be wise jare , artificial from where? The CBN devalued the naira and the price of crude has gone up yet you think its artrtificial ..for your information govt is already bridging the cost along with the release of strategic reserve so thats why lagos seems to have fuel but be ready for fuel prince increase very early next year |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:10pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
400billionman: erico2k2: Time for.... DEREGULATION FOR THE AVERAGE MIND. 1.To answer your question Erico....the landing costs came from IPMAN...the marketers union.(NNPC is denying it...but no smoke sans fire). 2.Here is how deregulation should work.... ..Govt stops setting prices, and allows marketers to set their price. ....In theory...Mobil sets price at 150 , Total sets price at N155, Oando sets price at N160, and Papaengo Ventures sets his own at 200. ....Nigerians buy from Mobil in their crowds....whileothers get zero customers. ...Oando, Total,Papaengo cut prices...and people go there. ...Mobil then cuts prices to N130 ...Oando, Papaengo and Total followsuit. ...Meanwhile, more investors come in, freed from the price constraints ...And WE use subsidy savings to fix refineries...then privatize them. Hence my previous posts. God bless. I love both of you . |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by ehbellsho(m): 4:13pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
God, pls help Us o |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Seankay323: 4:15pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:They have to build refineries first or privatise the existing ones. Why should ppl HV to die first in Nigeria to enjoy the dividends of democracy. Why should ppl HV to pay 200 per liter initially. All these oil companies should be compelled to build refineries , for Christ sake dangote is doing it , do u know how much these ppl u elected get paid to do things that secondary school students can do , if u channel some of the money to build a refinery won't that alleviate the suffering of the masses. The government promised that competition will bring down the price after 6 months but its almost 1yr and nothing ,it should apparently be selling for more , so we are still paying subsidy. They should refine crude oil here , if they budget some money and start building and another govt then must finish the project. If buhari didn't increase the price of petrol there would HV still been persistent scarcity so don't think dey HV done any magic. The fact that buhari hasnt done 1 major thing right is wot pisses me off. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Bizibi(m): 4:21pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
AutoReportNG:when it comes to twisting words,fear APC and lie Mohammed. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Bizibi(m): 4:23pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
michoim:mtcheeeeeeeew,WHR did the creator create this one from....... 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:25pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:Typical APC BMC now blaming Nigerians 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Bizibi(m): 4:26pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
I didn't bother to queue today because it will be foolish of me to join others to buy @167 naira |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:26pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Seankay323: Here is the cost of Dangote's refinery. $9billion $3 billion is from Dangote's Pocket. $4 billion is a loan from international banks. $2 bn is from donor agencies...negotiated in conjunction with the previous admin. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:30pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Mrokaykay: Look....i blame Nigerians for opposing GEJ's increase in 2012...which would have brought long term benefits to Nigeria's fuel sector. But if you want queues to go....deregulation is the answer. We should have deregulated since 1993..... I don't support APC or PDP BY the way....sorry! |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by princejenks(m): 4:31pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:maybe you should avail yourself with better info cos you come off as supporting this inept government that announced a deregulation of the downstream sector and setting a price band not exceeding 145 naira per litre and promised that competition will later crash the price. This statement was made in 2016 but now in december 2017,we are at the verge of another likely increase in pump price. Whether we accept what the government announced in 2016 was a removal of subsidy or deregulation,the fact on ground is that it hasn't achieved part of the promises bothering on lowering price of refined product. To also quickly correct your misinformation,nigeria consumes around 30-33million litres per day(according to nnpc website),dangote refinery will be producing 650,000 barrels per day(that's over a 100million litres cos 1 barrel=159litres),that's more than enough 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by tuniski: 4:34pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:It is the Biggest scam! Since crude price had gone down, the products from crude should have a resultant reduction in price. It. Is simple economics but, magical with this administration! 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:37pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
princejenks: 1. Bubu did not deregulate at all. I did not believe that in 2016....or even now. 2.Until the last one month, landing costs of fuel was 132 naira per liter. Now it is n142...due to rising oil prices, and rising import costs. 3.Marketers have lost N10 per liter in profits as a result. 4.Hence the scarcity. Me, i backed GEJ's price increase in 2012. For your info, here is how deregulation works... Time for.... DEREGULATION FOR THE AVERAGE MIND. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by MRAKBEE(m): 4:38pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
christejames:This is too savage.. I'm afraid he is capable of making such claim |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by jaychubi: 4:39pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai: Fuel might be sold at over 350 per litre if this ur nonsense is implemented. High fuel cost will cost unprecedented inflation that will kill alot of Nigeria. We are not ripe for total deregulation 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:43pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
tuniski: Why the price increases? Oil has fallen, right? 1. Because crude oil prices have fallen, we don't have enough cash to buffer the naira...so the value of the naira has fallen. MEANING WE NEED MORE NAIRA TO IMPORT THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUEL WE DID FOUR YEARS AGO. Hence the rise in fuel prices. eg...in 2012...it cost N93 to import one liter PMS. It cost N144 to buy one dollar. NOW...it is N360 to one dollar.....it costs N142 to import one liter of fuel. 2.Most marketers have to get dollars from the parallel market where it is at 400 to $1. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:47pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
jaychubi: Yes, i agree things will be hard. But where is the money to keep fuel low? Oil is selling for 60-70 USD less than it did 3 years ago. And the falling value of the naira means you need more dollars to import fuel. See the problem. Either we swallow the bitter pill....or take another IMF loan.Or pray oil goes up to $125 per barrel. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by princejenks(m): 4:57pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:what you're asking for is total deregulation which is not practicable under our current laws. Nnpc for now is both a player and regulator until the proposed bill for the industry is fully passed,not in piecemeal as the legislature is currently toying with. Even as things stand,the doors were opened wide open in 2016 for anyone interested in importing refined product to do so from dollars obtained from secondary sources but a year later,we know nnpc does most of the importing cos the marketers aren't able to meet up the remaining 50% alloted to them . |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 4:57pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
osscarr: The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; The Lord lift up his countenance[a] upon you and give you peace. Amen. Even unto you and your descendants. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Haruchap(m): 5:01pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Sorry for quoting you but this your talk is not making sence. In May 2016 when the price was increased to N145. The presidency promised that the price would reduced in latest 6 months when partial deregulation would have been achieved in the downstream sector (after 18 months nothing has happened). Again early this year, a bill was passed this year that instead of reducing the price a tax of N5 would be included per each liter of both PMS and AGO imported into the country, saying this money would be diverted to the contruction of roads. Another promise gone down the drain. Yet you say Nigerians are not facing reality. The fact of the matter is that this present government's economic team are simply in over their heads. They are simply not capable of performing this job. 9jakohai: |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 5:08pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
APC - All Promises Cancelled. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by lukency(m): 5:09pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Real Scam wet no get part two. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by norris123(m): 5:11pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai: Who did this to you? You see people are suffering but you have refused to know because of sentiment. Buhari has failed Nigerians and it's not hidden, abeg stop saying they( APC) met Nigeria when crude oil is low, how much is it sold now? When OBj and atuku took over Nigeria crude oil price was very low and they manage do many infrastructures. May God open your eyes to see what poor and average Nigerians are going through under this administration. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by tuniski: 5:12pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
9jakohai:You are making it difficult for yourself. Why associated costs might have fallen, the core input which is the crude has fallen which means the outputs must have a fall in price not necessarily linear(absolute). What we have is a potential price increase of products. The 145naira price when crude was under 40$ was must troubling and unjustifiable. However, if you buy the govt charade, then it means now that the crude price has gone above 60$, then Prices must either go up, govt pay subsidy to keep it or both! This narrative surely give a lot of credence to the last govt which had crude price above 100$ At some point but still manage to keep the pump prices under 100naira, even while increasing salaries and paying subsidies! This govt is bereft of ideas!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 5:13pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Haruchap: I'm out of time....so i'll make this quick. 1.Partial dereguation, is not the same thing as full deregulation. Get that fact first....and you will see why partial deregulation does not make sense. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 5:17pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
tuniski: Yes...at 100 USD...we had enough cash to pay subsidies...and crucially...buffer the naira...meaning we needed less naira to buy dollars to import. But even then, it was bad economics....which is why GEJ wanted to remove subsidy ...and raise prices from N65 to n140 in 2012. |
Re: Fuel Scarcity: Have We Been Truly Scammed By The APC? By Audu Bulama Bukarti by Nobody: 5:19pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
norris123: You think i am defending APC....which is not true. I will just add this...GEJ should have been allowed to raise prices to N140 in 2012.Things would have been better by now. Good evening. |
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