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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Shuku0kukobambi: 4:23am On Dec 15, 2017
Amberon11:
Everything seems to be tribal to you. Since this issue
has been repeatedly raised , the least any sane mind should do is device means to find out if the claims are true but no, you'd rather call their bluff instead.

It is not by "participating in threads". If you don't have first hand experience or know any regular importer who faces some of the challenges addressed by the op then shut up and take several seats.

Here we go cheesy cheesy

If you had any sense, you'd have remembered that you and i talked about these same issues on that very thread and it was very evident it's beyond opening idiotic threads on NL that have no influence on the matter.

Of course it's tribal. Are you that dumb not to know the antecedents of the clown who opened this thread to rehash worn out arguments? why, i even posted links to a stupid thread the crybaby opened over Lagos matter yet you sit in your cave and try to act all sanctimonious and pontificate to me.

https://www.nairaland.com/4195654/possibility-edo-igbo-rule-lagos

Go over that thread, then come back to tell me the clown who opened it deserves any serious attention on this thread from any serious person?

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Nobody: 4:44am On Dec 15, 2017
Ihatepork:


Yes, we agree the country must be restructured. But would you also admit the statement about ports in other parts of the country not being functional is false?

which port?

una dey like decieve una self using propaganda..

you call that functioning?

how much revenue government dey generate from dia..
una go know truth finish..but will always choose to reverse it..

guess businessday na IPOB.. newpaper..


other ports dey function and nigeria face be like this...

careless Nansense

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by deomelllo: 4:46am On Dec 15, 2017
OfficialAwol:
There is an unwritten code somewhere that reads, "Don't let the Igbos rise again"

So I'm not nonplussed by govt unfavorable policies




kettykin:

igbos as a group are the largest investors , landlords and unltimtely IGR contributors in lagos .



You are the richest, you are the smartest, you own everything and you are better than the rest of Nigeria, but in your warped world, they are holding you down with some bad policies.

The fact that you own everything and you are the richest means government policies are more in your favor than the rest of the country you are richer and better than.

Som how do you people reconcile your silly double talk? You people hardly make sense with your pointless and empty chest beating,

You can not have it both ways.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Nobody: 4:50am On Dec 15, 2017
Amberon11:
Dem fence your brain?

Are you always this stupiid or is it only on Friday's?

When and where did anyone mention that the eastern ports were/are not functional?

So to you "fully functional " and "functional" mean the same thing? The op also adressed the issue of those ports being too shallow (which is a drawback since this means large vessels are unable to berth there). Among other issues raised were high cost of clearances and also embargo on non-oil related shipments (dont know how true this is but they will surely frustrate you if you eventually send non-oil related shipments) but your shallow SE/SS hating ass will not just receive sense.



no mind the human.. he knows the truth but always play dumb..anytime this sea port matter come up.

Afonjas are very envious.. they know the truth..but say na igbo matter.. Quick Quick..they go oppose am.. then keep subtle opposition... very jealous human.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Shuku0kukobambi: 5:05am On Dec 15, 2017
bounty007:



no mind the human.. he knows the truth but always play dumb..anytime this sea port matter come up.

Afonjas are very envious.. they know the truth..but say na igbo matter.. Quick Quick..they go oppose am.. then keep subtle opposition... very jealous human.

Envious of people who claim they've bought Lagos yet are wailing and angry at the success of the same Lagos they claim they now own? cheesy cheesy

You guys have a huge comic value cheesy

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Blue3k(m): 5:13am On Dec 15, 2017
kettykin:
The President, National Council of Managing Directors of Licensed Customs Agents (NCMDLCA), Lucky Amiwero, said the components that determine the choice of port such as freight cost, the draft and cargo destination do not favour other ports, hence the use of Lagos ports.

“Why you are having more traffic in Lagos ports is because most of the cargoes are consumed around Lagos area, while the other places don’t have many industries. Many of the ships that are coming to Lagos are based on the request by the importers, who are businessmen around Lagos.

“If you want your cargoes shipped to the East, you might not see a ship going to the East, besides, the freight to the East is too expensive and it is not as requested as Lagos, because Lagos has a concentration of market,” he said.

Interesting why didn't you bold these parts. Seems like there's another dimension to this Import story to consider. I mean nobody cares about exporting it seems.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Shuku0kukobambi: 5:22am On Dec 15, 2017
Blue3k:


Interesting why didn't you bold these parts. Seems like there's another dimension to this Import story to consider. I mean nobody cares about exporting it seems.

Do you think these guys are interested in facts or truth? They simply scavenge the internet for any news that feeds their prejudices and hate, then spread it in their village squares for the next refugees to board FG Onyenwe en route Jibowu, Ojota and Ojoo cheesy

Any news that counters their prejudice is ignored no matter how meritorious. There's no stopping the hate and bitterness

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Nobody: 5:22am On Dec 15, 2017
Shuku0kukobambi:


Envious of people who claim they've bought Lagos yet are wailing and angry at the success of the same Lagos they claim they now own? cheesy cheesy

You guys have a huge comic value cheesy
Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by stev120(m): 5:38am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:
Ask your governor to do it without FG support as you lots love to claim.

“Build an international airport in the East and watch Lagos fall”

We built Enugu International Airport and guess what? Lagos is still standing strong.


Aren’t the ports in SS functioning? Why do you lots like to lie?

umo yoruba amala have taken the better part of your senses. ..
did you think it's every kind of goods that is permitted by the federal government to be imported through Calabar or port h....??....

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by BudeYahooCom: 5:39am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:



Are your governors not aware of all these? Are you leaders slaves that they cannot (under 16 years of PDP rule) fight for a “fully functional” port?

Was it your ewedu 'gominas' that built Lagos port?

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by okway2: 5:41am On Dec 15, 2017
BudeYahooCom:


Was it your ewedu 'gominas' that built Lagos port?

Stale and old conversation.

Just go and ask your governors to develop your land.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by okway2: 5:42am On Dec 15, 2017
stev120:


umo yoruba amala have taken the better part of your senses. ..
did you think it's every kind of goods that is permitted by the federal government to be imported through Calabar or port h....??....

Ibos and their classic method of grabbing at straws when they have nothing to contribute.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by russellino: 5:50am On Dec 15, 2017
Blue3k:
The only reasonable argument made was the the certain good being restricted. Even that isn't written on the NPA website so that will need to be fact checked. The depths are relatively the same. Apapa is as shallow as the other ports in East. Eastern ports are functional if you look at the big picture.

●The Author left out facts like Lagos ports export about 10% of all goods. The other 90% is the east naturally.

●The security concerns are pirates I'm always talking about. The last two incidents this year happened in ND waters. It's also why I say Nigeria needs to build up it's navy.




All you have provided are statistics of port usage.

1. The news report states the obvious fact that eastern ports are shallow compared to the lagos port which was dredged during construction before independence.

2. Your security angle does not make sense. Are you saying that before militancy in the ND, the Eastern ports were being effectively used?

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by OfficialAwol(m): 7:24am On Dec 15, 2017
deomelllo:









You are the richest, you are the smartest, you own everything and you are better than the rest of Nigeria, but in your warped world, they are holding you down with some bad policies.

The fact that you own everything and you are the richest means government policies are more in your favor than the rest of the country you are richer and better than.

Som how do you people reconcile your silly double talk? You people hardly make sense with your pointless and empty chest beating,

You can not have it both ways.








Lol. The thrash you just spilled exudes of hatred and pain in the heart.

Are Igbos such a nightmare to you?

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by omaar12(m): 8:40am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:


Stale and old conversation.

Just go and ask your governors to develop your land.
It A Known Fact That The Port In Lagos Was Built In The Early 60t'z When Lagos Was Still The Capital, And It Was Built Un Opposed By Other Region, Let Admit This. If There Was No Oil In The ND Will The Govt Have Even Welcomed The Idea Of A Seaport Down South? I Dont Think So. Put Tribalism Aside, The Upgrade Of Those Port Will Be Beneficial To Lagos And The Entire South. The West Should Stop Being A Tool Used Against The South By The Far North. They Should Stop Coverting Our Collective Effort As Theirs Alone, Lagos Was Built By Al Nigerians From All Region With The Igbos Contribution A Large Chunk As A Non Indigene To Lagos Not Just By The West Alone. If We Had Played The Tribalism Card Then A Large Part Of Lagos Would Have Still Been A Forest.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Ihatepork: 8:42am On Dec 15, 2017
Amberon11:
Dem fence your brain?

Are you always this stupiid or is it only on Friday's?

When and where did anyone mention that the eastern ports were/are not functional?

So to you "fully functional " and "functional" mean the same thing? The op also adressed the issue of those ports being too shallow (which is a drawback since this means large vessels are unable to berth there). Among other issues raised were high cost of clearances and also embargo on non-oil related shipments (dont know how true this is but they will surely frustrate you if you eventually send non-oil related shipments) but your shallow SE/SS hating ass will not just receive sense.


i don't think I need to reply your dumb post. I think you just need to be banned for the same thing I've been banned for. Mynd44

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Ihatepork: 8:54am On Dec 15, 2017
omaar12:
It A Known Fact That The Port In Lagos Was Built In The Early 60t'z When Lagos Was Still The Capital, And It Was Built Un Opposed By Other Region, Let Admit This. If There Was No Oil In The ND Will The Govt Have Even Welcomed The Idea Of A Seaport Down South? I Dont Think So. Put Tribalism Aside, The Upgrade Of Those Port Will Be Beneficial To Lagos And The Entire South. The West Should Stop Being A Tool Used Against The South By The Far North. They Should Stop Coverting Our Collective Effort As Theirs Alone, Lagos Was Built By Al Nigerians From All Region With The Igbos Contribution A Large Chunk As A Non Indigene To Lagos Not Just By The West Alone. If We Had Played The Tribalism Card Then A Large Part Of Lagos Would Have Still Been A Forest.

Do you people have to blame the West for all your woes in this life? Why don't you blame the FG instead of blaming the West. What exactly do you mean by tool used against South. Yorubas that just got a real taste of govt in 2015. Jonathan, a Southerner was there for 6 years, you're not blaming him. You're not blaming all your Igbo and Southern senators. You're not blaming your governors for not lobbying. You just have to blame Yorubas. Also, keep that "Lagos was built by all Nigerians" nonsense in your pocket. No one invited you to come "develop" Lagos. Lagos was developed before you people came. Lagos made you, you didn't make Lagos. You need Lagos, Lagos doesn't need you. You can't develop your own land but you claimed to develop Lagos. This is the same Lagos that some of your leaders from that part of the country sabotaged it's special status bill claiming Calabar also deserves special status. Lagos doesn't even earn from seaport revenues. Everything goes to the FG

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by greatermax77(m): 9:04am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:
Ask your governor to do it without FG support as you lots love to claim.

“Build an international airport in the East and watch Lagos fall”

We built Enugu International Airport and guess what? Lagos is still standing strong.


Aren’t the ports in SS functioning? Why do you lots like to lie?

There's a lot of thing's u do not know in this country, short up please

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by 1shortblackboy: 9:08am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:
Ask your governor to do it without FG support as you lots love to claim.

“Build an international airport in the East and watch Lagos fall”

We built Enugu International Airport and guess what? Lagos is still standing strong.


Aren’t the ports in SS functioning? Why do you lots like to lie?
my guy why must everything be us against them why is everything a fight? what if the west prospers and d north prospers and the east prospers and the south south prposper as well will that be such a bad thing?

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Pavarottii(m): 9:47am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:
Ask your governor to do it without FG support as you lots love to claim.

“Build an international airport in the East and watch Lagos fall”

We built Enugu International Airport and guess what? Lagos is still standing strong.


Aren’t the ports in SS functioning? Why do you lots like to lie?
this one no Sabi anything. just keep quiet.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Pavarottii(m): 9:48am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:
Ask your governor to do it without FG support as you lots love to claim.

“Build an international airport in the East and watch Lagos fall”

We built Enugu International Airport and guess what? Lagos is still standing strong.


Aren’t the ports in SS functioning? Why do you lots like to lie?
this one no Sabi anything. just keep quiet..

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by meccuno: 9:59am On Dec 15, 2017
omaar12:
It A Known Fact That The Port In Lagos Was Built In The Early 60t'z When Lagos Was Still The Capital, And It Was Built Un Opposed By Other Region, Let Admit This. If There Was No Oil In The ND Will The Govt Have Even Welcomed The Idea Of A Seaport Down South? I Dont Think So. Put Tribalism Aside, The Upgrade Of Those Port Will Be Beneficial To Lagos And The Entire South. The West Should Stop Being A Tool Used Against The South By The Far North. They Should Stop Coverting Our Collective Effort As Theirs Alone, Lagos Was Built By Al Nigerians From All Region With The Igbos Contribution A Large Chunk As A Non Indigene To Lagos Not Just By The West Alone. If We Had Played The Tribalism Card Then A Large Part Of Lagos Would Have Still Been A Forest.
nice one.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by kettykin: 10:29am On Dec 15, 2017
omaar12:
It A Known Fact That The Port In Lagos Was Built In The Early 60t'z When Lagos Was Still The Capital, And It Was Built Un Opposed By Other Region, Let Admit This. If There Was No Oil In The ND Will The Govt Have Even Welcomed The Idea Of A Seaport Down South? I Dont Think So. Put Tribalism Aside, The Upgrade Of Those Port Will Be Beneficial To Lagos And The Entire South. The West Should Stop Being A Tool Used Against The South By The Far North. They Should Stop Coverting Our Collective Effort As Theirs Alone, Lagos Was Built By Al Nigerians From All Region With The Igbos Contribution A Large Chunk As A Non Indigene To Lagos Not Just By The West Alone. If We Had Played The Tribalism Card Then A Large Part Of Lagos Would Have Still Been A Forest.


This is Apt

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Blue3k(m): 11:11am On Dec 15, 2017
russellino:


All you have provided are statistics of port usage.

1. The news report states the obvious fact that eastern ports are shallow compared to the lagos port which was dredged during construction before independence.

2. Your security angle does not make sense. Are you saying that before militancy in the ND, the Eastern ports were being effectively used?

The I know the stats are port usage it shows all the ports are being used. The point is to give context to how ports are used. We already know concession arrangements effect prices.

1. This point is wrong like I told you. Go read the draft chart on NPA website. The are relatively same same. Onne being as deep as tin can. I'm not going to go through all the numbers for u.

2. They were being used effectively and still are. The trend has been sane for past decade. Lastly the article states the security concerns were big issue.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by omaar12(m): 11:24am On Dec 15, 2017
[quote author=Ihatepork post=63298343]

Do you people have to blame the West for all your woes in this life? Why don't you blame the FG instead of blaming the West. What exactly do you tool used against South. Yorubas that just got a real taste of govt in 2015. Jonathan, a Southerner was there for 6 years, you're not blaming him. You're not blaming all your Igbo and Southern senators. You're not blaming your governors for not lobbying. You just have to blame Yorubas. Also, keep that "Lagos was built by all Nigerians" nonsense in your pocket. No one invited you to come "develop" Lagos.[ Wait Bros Park Well If You Dont Know The History Of Lagos.
Let Us Take Ur Region That Has More Senators Than The South East, What Have They Lobbied Out Over The Past 17years With Regards To Other Part Of South West, FG Only Gives Attention To Lagos Because It Was The Former Capital Has Attracted Much Populace From Other Region, There By Making It A Cosmopolitan City, Aside That There No Difference Btw South East/west.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by horsepower101: 11:27am On Dec 15, 2017
To those getting adrenaline rush from getting likes, it doesn't make your rebuttals and statements true or even meaningful. It just means you have people of like mindedness who are indifferent or defensive about this unjust system. Nothing surprising.

No condition in life is permanent. Those celebrating the unequal playing field in Nigeria will one day get a taste of their own medicine.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Ihatepork: 11:39am On Dec 15, 2017
omaar12:


Whether we lobby or not means nothing. The most important thing here is that we don't blame other regions for our problems unlike you people. We either blame the FG for its stupid laws or our leaders for not doing what they ought to do. The bitumen in Ondo state is enough to tar all the roads in West Africa, i don't see Yorubas pointing fingers at anyone. If it was you people, you'd have said it's because they don't want your region to be developed, that's why they haven't thought of investing in it. Ondo state has the longest coastline in Nigeria meaning it deserves a seaport, Yorubas haven't pointed fingers at anyone other than Ondo state governors for not being able to find investors

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by stev120(m): 11:51am On Dec 15, 2017
okway2:


Ibos and their classic method of grabbing at straws when they have nothing to contribute.
I
l wounder how many yoruba agboro import through lagos port. ..

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Ihatepork: 12:03pm On Dec 15, 2017
stev120:
I
l wounder how many yoruba agboro import through lagos port. ..

When your ignorant ass doesn't even know Elizade is the largest importer of cars in Nigeria and the biggest automobile dealer. Have you heard of Lanre Shittu, RT Briscoe, Late Okoya Thomas's CFAO motors, Nuel Ojei, Mandilas ? It's just that most Nigerians are very ignorant. Plus you people are the biggest noisemakers. So whatever people hear all the time is what they know

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by omaar12(m): 12:04pm On Dec 15, 2017
Ihatepork:


Whether we lobby or not means nothing. The most important thing here is that we don't blame other regions for our problems unlike you people. We either blame the FG for its stupid laws or our leaders for not doing what they ought to do. The bitumen in Ondo state is enough to tar all the roads in West Africa, i don't see Yorubas pointing fingers at anyone. If it was you people, you'd have said it's because they don't want your region to be developed, that's why they haven't thought of investing in it. Ondo state has the longest coastline in Nigeria meaning it deserves a seaport, Yorubas haven't pointed fingers at anyone other than Ondo state governors
Dont Call Me A Chestbeater Out Of Jealousy When I Start Rolling Out The Economic Potential Of The South East As Well(which I Wont). We Both Know That No One Wil Site A Seaport In Ondo Due To It Proximity To Lagos And Lack Of Economic Raw Materials(bitumen Is Not A Sought After Material In World Market) .

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Rotimik: 12:05pm On Dec 15, 2017
kettykin:
One of the greatest hindrances to efficiency at the seaports in Lagos is congestion. This is due to the incessant traffic gridlocks and bad state of the access roads to the port, thereby, making it impossible for importers to take delivery of their consignments as and when due.
The worrisome aspect of this ‘congestion’ is that apart from Apapa and Tin-Can Island seaports that handle over 85 percent of cargo imported into the country, Nigeria has seaports in Calabar, Warri, Onne and Rivers that remain under utilised. Four of these seaports put together do not measure up to one of the seaports in Lagos in terms of volume.
Ironically, the majority of shippers (importers and exporters) that use Lagos ports are located in the South East, South-South and Northern parts of country. As a result, these importers pay double in cost to move their cargo from Lagos by road to their warehouses located in their states
Here, bulk of the Lagos ports importers are constrained against their wish to import through Lagos ports since container laden vessels do not frequent the Eastern ports owing to barriers such as lack of political will to open-up these ports, shallow draft of water channels leading to the ports and security concern deterring shipping liners from patronising the ports




Considering the fact that cargo must get to the final destination at the right time, in good condition and at the most economic cost, South East, South-South and Northern importers, therefore, must use Lagos.
For instance, in terms of cost, shipping companies charge as much as N800,000 as deposit per container where the consignee’s address is outside Lagos against N150,000 if the destination of consignment is Lagos
Also, importation of some products e.g. pharmaceutical products are restricted to Lagos ports of Apapa and Tin-Can Island only, hence, the above mentioned regions with their very huge pharmaceutical markets are forced through government policy and directive to import their goods through the Lagos ports, thus leaving other ports of the regions unviable. Lagos ports are also the only legitimate ports for the export of non-oil products

Therefore, to address the problem of congestion currently rocking Lagos ports, government must start finding ways to review some import and export guidelines militating against the viability of Eastern ports. The government should also muster the political will to make the ports outside Lagos viable by addressing the infrastructural challenge facing them.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/opening-eastern-ports-decongest-lagos-port/
Waiting for FG to open up the ports will not work because of the cost of dredging .

The respective state governments should come in with private investors.

Unfortunately, state governments are avoiding the ports because they will not benefit much from their efforts, because all ports income goes to the FG to be distributed to other states.

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Re: Opening-up Eastern Ports To Decongest Lagos Port by Ihatepork: 12:11pm On Dec 15, 2017
omaar12:
Dont Call Me A Chestbeater Out Of Jealousy When I Start Rolling Out The Economic Potential Of The South East As Well(which I Wont). We Both Know That No One Wil Site A Seaport In Ondo Due To It Proximity To Lagos And Lack Of Economic Raw Materials(bitumen Is Not A Sought After Material In World Market) .

Lol. jealous of potorpotor that you're running away from. lmao grin see this one wants to raise small prick grin What do you have in the South-east that we don't have in the Southwest. Oga goan sleep! You don't want seaport in Ondo but you want seaports in the ND developed. So typical grin grin anyway, that's not what we are talking about. Stick to the topic. All we are saying is that you should stop blaming yorubas for whatever you think is wrong with seaports in that part of the country

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