ernieboy:

Nigeria only purchase tokunbo flooded cars, in the whole 2017 only 10000 new cars were sold in Nigeria according to available stats

You are missing something. In America nobody buys a new car with cash, they make a payment plan for them where they make payment of $500 monthly for six years before they can claim full ownership of th vehicle. While in Nigeria we pay cash, those tokunbo flooded vehicles were all bought with millions. This is something 90% of Americans are incapable of. When you factor in cost of shipping, buying, clearing and profits added by the car dealer you will find out Nigeria are paying more to own a car than Americans. Most brand new cars here cost between 15million-25million naira so 10,000 is a huge number when you consider most were bought with cash

timesup234:
You are missing something. In America nobody buys a new car with cash, they make a payment plan for them where they make payment of $500 monthly for six years before they can claim full ownership of th vehicle. While in Nigeria we pay cash, those tokunbo flooded vehicles were all bought with millions. This is something 90% of Americans are incapable of. When you factor in cost of shipping, buying, clearing and profits added by the car dealer you will find out Nigeria are paying more to own a car than Americans. Most brand new cars here cost between 15million-25million naira so 10,000 is a huge number when you consider most were bought with cash

whether u pay it cash or over time, bottom line is the manufacturers gets their full money plus profits eventually, otherwise they won't be able to stay in business fyi the credit system can only work in a stables financial system so stop presenting our cash and carry system as if it is the best, it is actually a product if our poor financial system

ernieboy:

whether u pay it cash or over time, bottom line is the manufacturers gets their full money plus profits eventually, otherwise they won't be able to stay in business fyi the credit system can only work in a stables financial system so stop presenting our cash and carry system as if it is the best, it is actually a product if our poor financial system

really did u know what caused 2007 global financial crisis that lerman brothers went under...who told u it best..with 41m homeless people...norway , finland qatar swizz are best

Alikote:
really did u know what caused 2007 global financial crisis that lerman brothers went under...who told u it best..with 41m homeless people...norway , finland qatar swizz are best

and how many homeless people do u have in Nigeria? lemme guess, u don't even know because there are no reliable stats, and don't get me started on the companies that have gone under. anyway companies need to exist first before they can go under.

ernieboy:

and how many homeless people do u have in Nigeria? lemme guess, u don't even know because there are no reliable stats, and don't get me started on the companies that have gone under. anyway companies need to exist first before they can go under.

its in lagos that u see homeless people in kano, kd, jos ,ekiti osun only mad people stay out...u can get a room for 20 k peranum in zaria homeless is by choice in nijia highest u go do guard work ..free housing

Alikote:
its in lagos that u see homeless people in kano, kd, jos ,ekiti osun only mad people stay out...u can get a room for 20 k peranum in zaria homeless is by choice in nijia highest u go do guard work ..free housing

Nice.

ken4jj:

This is a long write up but it is very good to read for people who always compare Nigeria to the western countries

The problem with Nigeria is our mentality. An average Nigerian is all about money, money, houses, SUV etc and this is why this question is always coming up. Because of our greed and our ability to acquire, acquire and acquire, our society have been built on storing money, properties. It is not surprising to see Nigerians in Nigeria with fat bank account, many houses with high fence and big gate, high SUV yet the street they live is littered with bad roads and full of generator noise because that is what we care about.

The western world is different because they are not built for people to store money. Their system is designed for money to circulate. This is why even services we pay peanuts for here is Nigeria is costly abroad. Everyone is given the opportunity to live a base life and if you want to be rich you can use your brain and do something extraordinary. For example, a barber, cleaner, nanny etc in the western world has the opportunity to live a normal life. He can save a little money, make a little down payment and buy a house or car on mortgage despite being just a barber. He gets to enjoy his tokunbo car and 2 bedroom apartment even though he is paying for it in the next 10 years. Even if he dies before he finish paying, he cannot say that he didn’t enjoy the basic things of life. Enjoying the basic things of life is not left for the rich alone.
In Nigeria, some people can never enjoy the basic things of life forever. For example, a cleaner, nanny etc can never buy a car because Nigeria is designed for the rich to exploit the poor and there is no buffer to help the poor.

A top bank manager earning more than 1 million naira a month cannot bring out 50k to pay a Nanny or gateman. Instead he will go and bring one Ekaite from the village whom he will exploit as slave. Ekaite will do all the jobs in the house and will not even go to school for the first 3 years. After 3 years, they will now send her to a local school where children sit on the floor even though their own children are going to posh schools. During Christmas, they give Ekaite’s family a bag of rice and 20k and the family is happy due to poverty. But this same man store millions of naira in his account and building lots of houses yet his gateman is just paid 10k a month. In the western world, the bank manager will have over 60% of his earnings go into the payment of other services. That means he will pay the Nanny, guards, gardeners, cleaners, barber etc that works for him an hourly minimum wage. So he has little money to save and build mansions here and there but the good thing is that the people in the lower cadre live a normal life off him and the money circulates.

The Nigerian society is built for exploitation unlike the western world. The greatest disservice to poor man in Nigeria is that they are not paid hourly. The rich man/organizations takes all their time and pay them pea nut at the end of the month but a poor man aboard can work 24 hours and be paid for those 24 hours if he has the strength.

So before you travel, you need to understand how the western society works and what exactly you want. If your aim is to make millions and become rich, build houses here and there, the western society is not for you, you can become rich easier in Nigeria. It is only in Nigeria, you can become rich overnight.
You can go to china, import some substandard goods into the country, bribe SON and customs and sell your goods and make mega millions in a jiffy and build your mansions here and there. If you run a business, you can avoid paying taxes, just tip the FIRS and they would look the other way and you take those taxes you should have paid and build mansions for yourself, you are rich! The FIRS,Custom, SON guys make mega money and build their own mansions, you make your own mega money too, the ordinary people and the government are shortchanged but the govt is not bothered because they loot their own from crude oil directly. In fact, Nigeria is a goldmine if you have the mind and can throw away your conscience. Dem no born you well to not pay your taxes in the western world or do anyhow in the western world.

If you work in many organizations, you may not have to touch your salary because you will be getting illegal cash every day. For example, if you work in immigration, you will be getting 3k, 4k from people who want to get their passport else they may have to wait for one year to get it. If you work in universities, you will be getting extra 3k, 4k, 2k from people who wants their transcripts else they will look for your results for the next one year and so many examples. If you add up this monies, you can see that you are getting more than your salary from your little office. No wonder these civil servants you see have a lot of money. This is what you can never get abroad.

So you can see that it is easy to make it in Nigeria but it comes at a cost. A country where nothing works. No light, no water, bad roads, bad schools, hospitals, insecurity etc. There is no fine house in Nigeria that does not have a high fence and a big gate. In the western world, you would hardly see a fenced house because the police is 2 minutes away from your phone call.

So our mentality is different from the western world. While the western world cares more about the larger society, we care about our individual self and individual wealth and this is why we are richer individually than them but they are richer and better collectively as a society than us. The question you should ask before you travel is what you value more as an individual.

you're very smart.....good write up

ernieboy:

whether u pay it cash or over time, bottom line is the manufacturers gets their full money plus profits eventually, otherwise they won't be able to stay in business fyi the credit system can only work in a stables financial system so stop presenting our cash and carry system as if it is the best, it is actually a product if our poor financial system

Even Americans wish they can pay in cash but the money is not there and for your info it is actually slavery since a sizable amount of them will default on the payment and eventually get the car repossessed. Not even counting the fact that they are paying more with interest on the loan. Sorry dude, luxury debt is slavery

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Lamide123:

21000/year that is 1750 euro per month. After all deductions his take home might be around 1450.
It is a big money in Nigeria, one cannot survive with this in Ireland even if you live in a shared apartment.
Remember your family back home will be expecting something too

Yes you can survive on that if you live within your means. If you are left with 1450 a month after all deductions and you can't survive on that then you are not financially responsible.

Most people on here defending Nigeria, have never left Nigeria, been or seen an Airport before
Don't ask me how i know

Please justwise and co, don't bother explaining to them, Thank you

eldee365:
Most people on here defending Nigeria, have never left Nigeria, been or seen an Airport before
Don't ask me how i know

Please justwise and co, don't bother explaining to them, Thank you

Does it matter? You sound like abroad is some sort of heaven, there are more people suffering in America than Nigeria. Stop being a slave, people living in other countries will always see you as a slave, you will never fit in no matter how many asslickking you do. Traveling abroad is not success it is self enslavement

timesup234:
Does it matter? You sound like abroad is some sort of heaven, there are more people suffering in America than Nigeria. Stop being a slave, people living in other countries will always see you as a slave, you will never fit in no matter how many asslickking you do. Traveling abroad is not success it is self enslavement

Nice one.

Alikote:
its in lagos that u see homeless people in kano, kd, jos ,ekiti osun only mad people stay out...u can get a room for 20 k peranum in zaria homeless is by choice in nijia highest u go do guard work ..free housing

Guard worker dey buy a million car too?

Alikote:
its in lagos that u see homeless people in kano, kd, jos ,ekiti osun only mad people stay out...u can get a room for 20 k peranum in zaria homeless is by choice in nijia highest u go do guard work ..free housing

Kikikikiki... Houses without toilets folo too?

Help me ask him oh

elfmann:

Guard worker dey buy a million car too?

timesup234:
Does it matter? You sound like abroad is some sort of heaven, there are more people suffering in America than Nigeria. Stop being a slave, people living in other countries will always see you as a slave, you will never fit in no matter how many asslickking you do. Traveling abroad is not success it is self enslavement

There are more people suffering in America bla bla bla more than Nigeria,

Dude have you been to America?yes America is heaven Compared to Nigeria and yes you will surely fit in, its not slavery dude..


Your mentality and Approach to this topic is insane and disgusting

Change your way of thinking, Yes Traveling Abroad legally is success, atleast if you are a nobody, you work hard you will be rewarded,succeed in pursuit of your dreams.

Finally, Abroad is better than Nigeria
I won't reply your mention again, Gracias

timesup234:
Even Americans wish they can pay in cash but the money is not there and for your info it is actually slavery since a sizable amount of them will default on the payment and eventually get the car repossessed. Not even counting the fact that they are paying more with interest on the loan. Sorry dude, luxury debt is slavery

Dude I think you're trying so hard to deceive yourself. All my immigrant friends I know, own cars. NOT ON CREDIT. As a Nigerian when you get there, you live within your means till you can afford a car, and guess what? they still get the cars at the end of the day. Most Nigerians find it difficult to use the car loan system. Finally, there is no educated Nigerian I know who did some courses over there with a job( not menial jobs) that cannot afford a car. STOP deceiving yourself. 60k monthly cannot even buy you a 1999 Camry in Nigeria.

MRSHYCAT:


Dude I think you're trying so hard to deceive yourself. All my immigrant friends I know, own cars. NOT ON CREDIT. As a Nigerian when you get there, you live within your means till you can afford a car, and guess what? they still get the cars at the end of the day. Most Nigerians find it difficult to use the car loan system. Finally, there is no educated Nigerian I know who did some courses over there with a job( not menial jobs) that cannot afford a car. STOP deceiving yourself. 60k monthly cannot even buy you a 1999 Camry in Nigeria.

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eldee365:


There are more people suffering in America bla bla bla more than Nigeria,

Dude have you been to America?yes America is heaven Compared to Nigeria and yes you will surely fit in, its not slavery dude..


Your mentality and Approach to this topic is insane and disgusting

Change your way of thinking, Yes Traveling Abroad legally is success, atleast if you are a nobody, you work hard you will be rewarded,succeed in pursuit of your dreams.

Finally, Abroad is better than Nigeria
I won't reply your mention again, Gracias

Have you been reading his confused post on this thread and from other threads he's started? If so then you wouldn't have subjected yourself so low to his frustrated and delusional thoughts by quoting him or even responding to him.

There is a saying that when a sane person is arguing back and forth with a mad person after a while people wont know the difference between who the mad person is and who the sane person is. The conclusion people will give is that the mad person and the sane person are both mad and needs urgent psychiatric help.

Beautyaddy:


Have you been reading his confused post on this thread and from other threads he's started? If so then you wouldn't have subjected yourself so low to his frustrated and delusional thoughts by quoting him or even responding to him.

There is a saying that when a sane person is arguing back and forth with a mad person after a while people wont know the difference between who the mad person is and who the sane person is. The conclusion people will give is that the mad person and the sane person are both mad and needs urgent psychiatric help.

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hope your anit among the people crossing while forming we dey america

eldee365:


There are more people suffering in America bla bla bla more than Nigeria,

Dude have you been to America?yes America is heaven Compared to Nigeria and yes you will surely fit in, its not slavery dude..


Your mentality and Approach to this topic is insane and disgusting

Change your way of thinking, Yes Traveling Abroad legally is success, atleast if you are a nobody, you work hard you will be rewarded,succeed in pursuit of your dreams.

Finally, Abroad is better than Nigeria
I won't reply your mention again, Gracias

Yes! America is indeed great with millions of poor and homeless people everywhere in New York and California. I have never seen such gathering of homeless and poor people in a single place my entire life. America sure is great and Trump will make it greater

eldee365:


There are more people suffering in America bla bla bla more than Nigeria,

Dude have you been to America?yes America is heaven Compared to Nigeria and yes you will surely fit in, its not slavery dude..


Your mentality and Approach to this topic is insane and disgusting

Change your way of thinking, Yes Traveling Abroad legally is success, atleast if you are a nobody, you work hard you will be rewarded,succeed in pursuit of your dreams.

Finally, Abroad is better than Nigeria
I won't reply your mention again, Gracias

Bro, ignore that twisted being, I just did. He's insane lol

eldee365:
Most people on here defending Nigeria, have never left Nigeria, been or seen an Airport before
Don't ask me how i know

Please justwise and co, don't bother explaining to them, Thank you

ken4jj:

This is a long write up but it is very good to read for people who always compare Nigeria to the western countries

The problem with Nigeria is our mentality. An average Nigerian is all about money, money, houses, SUV etc and this is why this question is always coming up. Because of our greed and our ability to acquire, acquire and acquire, our society have been built on storing money, properties. It is not surprising to see Nigerians in Nigeria with fat bank account, many houses with high fence and big gate, high SUV yet the street they live is littered with bad roads and full of generator noise because that is what we care about.

The western world is different because they are not built for people to store money. Their system is designed for money to circulate. This is why even services we pay peanuts for here is Nigeria is costly abroad. Everyone is given the opportunity to live a base life and if you want to be rich you can use your brain and do something extraordinary. For example, a barber, cleaner, nanny etc in the western world has the opportunity to live a normal life. He can save a little money, make a little down payment and buy a house or car on mortgage despite being just a barber. He gets to enjoy his tokunbo car and 2 bedroom apartment even though he is paying for it in the next 10 years. Even if he dies before he finish paying, he cannot say that he didn’t enjoy the basic things of life. Enjoying the basic things of life is not left for the rich alone.
In Nigeria, some people can never enjoy the basic things of life forever. For example, a cleaner, nanny etc can never buy a car because Nigeria is designed for the rich to exploit the poor and there is no buffer to help the poor.

A top bank manager earning more than 1 million naira a month cannot bring out 50k to pay a Nanny or gateman. Instead he will go and bring one Ekaite from the village whom he will exploit as slave. Ekaite will do all the jobs in the house and will not even go to school for the first 3 years. After 3 years, they will now send her to a local school where children sit on the floor even though their own children are going to posh schools. During Christmas, they give Ekaite’s family a bag of rice and 20k and the family is happy due to poverty. But this same man store millions of naira in his account and building lots of houses yet his gateman is just paid 10k a month. In the western world, the bank manager will have over 60% of his earnings go into the payment of other services. That means he will pay the Nanny, guards, gardeners, cleaners, barber etc that works for him an hourly minimum wage. So he has little money to save and build mansions here and there but the good thing is that the people in the lower cadre live a normal life off him and the money circulates.

The Nigerian society is built for exploitation unlike the western world. The greatest disservice to poor man in Nigeria is that they are not paid hourly. The rich man/organizations takes all their time and pay them pea nut at the end of the month but a poor man aboard can work 24 hours and be paid for those 24 hours if he has the strength.

So before you travel, you need to understand how the western society works and what exactly you want. If your aim is to make millions and become rich, build houses here and there, the western society is not for you, you can become rich easier in Nigeria. It is only in Nigeria, you can become rich overnight.
You can go to china, import some substandard goods into the country, bribe SON and customs and sell your goods and make mega millions in a jiffy and build your mansions here and there. If you run a business, you can avoid paying taxes, just tip the FIRS and they would look the other way and you take those taxes you should have paid and build mansions for yourself, you are rich! The FIRS,Custom, SON guys make mega money and build their own mansions, you make your own mega money too, the ordinary people and the government are shortchanged but the govt is not bothered because they loot their own from crude oil directly. In fact, Nigeria is a goldmine if you have the mind and can throw away your conscience. Dem no born you well to not pay your taxes in the western world or do anyhow in the western world.

If you work in many organizations, you may not have to touch your salary because you will be getting illegal cash every day. For example, if you work in immigration, you will be getting 3k, 4k from people who want to get their passport else they may have to wait for one year to get it. If you work in universities, you will be getting extra 3k, 4k, 2k from people who wants their transcripts else they will look for your results for the next one year and so many examples. If you add up this monies, you can see that you are getting more than your salary from your little office. No wonder these civil servants you see have a lot of money. This is what you can never get abroad.

So you can see that it is easy to make it in Nigeria but it comes at a cost. A country where nothing works. No light, no water, bad roads, bad schools, hospitals, insecurity etc. There is no fine house in Nigeria that does not have a high fence and a big gate. In the western world, you would hardly see a fenced house because the police is 2 minutes away from your phone call.

So our mentality is different from the western world. While the western world cares more about the larger society, we care about our individual self and individual wealth and this is why we are richer individually than them but they are richer and better collectively as a society than us. The question you should ask before you travel is what you value more as an individual.

you have said it all no dignity of labor here and our useless leaders don't care den for us Na to believe in prayers.....money don't circulate....pple wrk as security and earn 20k in Nigeria Wat can dst pay if I get opportunity I lol leave this country...

ken4jj:

This is a long write up but it is very good to read for people who always compare Nigeria to the western countries

The problem with Nigeria is our mentality. An average Nigerian is all about money, money, houses, SUV etc and this is why this question is always coming up. Because of our greed and our ability to acquire, acquire and acquire, our society have been built on storing money, properties. It is not surprising to see Nigerians in Nigeria with fat bank account, many houses with high fence and big gate, high SUV yet the street they live is littered with bad roads and full of generator noise because that is what we care about.

The western world is different because they are not built for people to store money. Their system is designed for money to circulate. This is why even services we pay peanuts for here is Nigeria is costly abroad. Everyone is given the opportunity to live a base life and if you want to be rich you can use your brain and do something extraordinary. For example, a barber, cleaner, nanny etc in the western world has the opportunity to live a normal life. He can save a little money, make a little down payment and buy a house or car on mortgage despite being just a barber. He gets to enjoy his tokunbo car and 2 bedroom apartment even though he is paying for it in the next 10 years. Even if he dies before he finish paying, he cannot say that he didn’t enjoy the basic things of life. Enjoying the basic things of life is not left for the rich alone.
In Nigeria, some people can never enjoy the basic things of life forever. For example, a cleaner, nanny etc can never buy a car because Nigeria is designed for the rich to exploit the poor and there is no buffer to help the poor.

A top bank manager earning more than 1 million naira a month cannot bring out 50k to pay a Nanny or gateman. Instead he will go and bring one Ekaite from the village whom he will exploit as slave. Ekaite will do all the jobs in the house and will not even go to school for the first 3 years. After 3 years, they will now send her to a local school where children sit on the floor even though their own children are going to posh schools. During Christmas, they give Ekaite’s family a bag of rice and 20k and the family is happy due to poverty. But this same man store millions of naira in his account and building lots of houses yet his gateman is just paid 10k a month. In the western world, the bank manager will have over 60% of his earnings go into the payment of other services. That means he will pay the Nanny, guards, gardeners, cleaners, barber etc that works for him an hourly minimum wage. So he has little money to save and build mansions here and there but the good thing is that the people in the lower cadre live a normal life off him and the money circulates.

The Nigerian society is built for exploitation unlike the western world. The greatest disservice to poor man in Nigeria is that they are not paid hourly. The rich man/organizations takes all their time and pay them pea nut at the end of the month but a poor man aboard can work 24 hours and be paid for those 24 hours if he has the strength.

So before you travel, you need to understand how the western society works and what exactly you want. If your aim is to make millions and become rich, build houses here and there, the western society is not for you, you can become rich easier in Nigeria. It is only in Nigeria, you can become rich overnight.
You can go to china, import some substandard goods into the country, bribe SON and customs and sell your goods and make mega millions in a jiffy and build your mansions here and there. If you run a business, you can avoid paying taxes, just tip the FIRS and they would look the other way and you take those taxes you should have paid and build mansions for yourself, you are rich! The FIRS,Custom, SON guys make mega money and build their own mansions, you make your own mega money too, the ordinary people and the government are shortchanged but the govt is not bothered because they loot their own from crude oil directly. In fact, Nigeria is a goldmine if you have the mind and can throw away your conscience. Dem no born you well to not pay your taxes in the western world or do anyhow in the western world.

If you work in many organizations, you may not have to touch your salary because you will be getting illegal cash every day. For example, if you work in immigration, you will be getting 3k, 4k from people who want to get their passport else they may have to wait for one year to get it. If you work in universities, you will be getting extra 3k, 4k, 2k from people who wants their transcripts else they will look for your results for the next one year and so many examples. If you add up this monies, you can see that you are getting more than your salary from your little office. No wonder these civil servants you see have a lot of money. This is what you can never get abroad.

So you can see that it is easy to make it in Nigeria but it comes at a cost. A country where nothing works. No light, no water, bad roads, bad schools, hospitals, insecurity etc. There is no fine house in Nigeria that does not have a high fence and a big gate. In the western world, you would hardly see a fenced house because the police is 2 minutes away from your phone call.

So our mentality is different from the western world. While the western world cares more about the larger society, we care about our individual self and individual wealth and this is why we are richer individually than them but they are richer and better collectively as a society than us. The question you should ask before you travel is what you value more as an individual.

Just cant get enough of this post.

Thank You!

I dey laugh oooooo

Alikote:
21000/12 is 1750 monthly before tax ....he stays in dublin ..

For me, I dnt think your friend is telling u the truth.
And if its true about his earnings, must he put himself on those bills?
I don blivit jooor

Folazis:

For me, I dnt think your friend is telling u the truth.
And if its true about his earnings, must he put himself on those bills?
I don blivit jooor

if your can google cost of one bedroom in dublin x 420 naira....then cost of transport on the average and food ....

ken4jj:


Hahahahahahahaha. I have addressed you in the other thread. Did i hear you say Neocolonialism? Your president who should have showed that we are giant of Africa went to a white man's country to get treatment under a white doctor for more than 100 days. It would have been easy for them to kill him if they wanted. A president who should be patriotic,instill belief in the system and lead by example and you are here saying bulshit.

If you want to earn my respect by showing that you truly love Nigeria, i expect you to start leading a pressure group that would put pressure on Nigerian leaders to start working for the people and develop this country so that the love for abroad will be eliminated. This is what people who claim to be patriotic do and not ranting from one thread to another claiming Nigeria is the best thing after slice bread.

Well said bro. U killed the nigga in two ways. Lesson learnt: don't bring a pencil to a gun fight.

Yommy247:
Well said bro. U killed the nigga in two ways. Lesson learnt: don't bring a pencil to a gun fight.

no u are missing the point we are not comparing in term of development ...the difference is clear or some wealthy najia politicians but averages guys wanting to relocated for bigger financial opportunities