Yommy247:
Well said bro. U killed the nigga in two ways. Lesson learnt: don't bring a pencil to a gun fight.

Alikote:
no u are missing the point we are not comparing in term of development ...the difference is clear or some wealthy najia politicians but averages guys wanting to relocated for bigger financial opportunities

timesup234:
So funny, killed me by begging mod for my thread to be closed and others clamoring for me to be ban. I am your worst nightmare. Nobody living in diaspora want none with me! I will take you all to the cleaners

Yommy247:
Baba leave the matter for Matthias.

timesup234:
So funny, killed me by begging mod for my thread to be closed and others clamoring for me to be ban. I am your worst nightmare. Nobody living in diaspora want none with me! I will take you all to the cleaners

error4040:


bro can you name someone who went to Europe or American Legally & was Sold to slavery.
oh you think Europe via Libya was Legalalized ?




bro who made your life like this ??
once you do your math well
The grass is for ever Greener everywhere Apart from africa! Take it or leave it



Typical mind set of A nigerian.
Smh Your Leaders Have milked Your Brain join ni o, wey sotey seeing normal basic amenities and comfort as Fictional that only appear on Movies And News stations like BBC and co


Shey you see your life ?
Mr man face front and re-read the part i wrote saying
Their economy Down there was made for living a comfortable life not become rich



oh yea at least spending it down there is worth more than spending millions in a zoo field with people like you

error4040:
Madam welcome i been reserve front seat for you!

tescoman90:


Dude I dey hail U
Cmon U don finish dat werey guy with no logical reasoning

Alikote:
which one Man go leave ....a najia Man earning 400 k monthly then move to Canada turn dish washer or security man it needs critical analysis to make such decision to travel but a bus driver in lagos washing dish in canada that a good move or student studying for a degree in canada washing dish for the main time

Yommy247:
Bro, no reasonable man i repeat no reasonable go leave 400k monthly job for naija go dey wash plate for yankee Even if na 1500$ dem dey pay am weekly.

Alikote:
but some where mislead example a manager in Nigeria bank that resigned and moved to the us on tourist visa 2 year back ended up stranded ,sick, and ran mental she died in a charity home and nigerians have to raise money to bring her home

edoman2016:

Rather you are disgracing yourself not me. I know you are a layman in economics that's why you don't know the difference between youth unemployment rate and general unemployment rate of a country.

Read my comment again you will notice I was talking about unemployment of their youth. Now this is the statistics of youth unemployment rate of those countries as at October, 2017 to back my claim.
Spain 38.20℅
Portugal 25.60℅
Greece 40.20℅
Italy 35.70 ℅
Ireland 14.80℅

For your information, I am an economist.

timesup234:
You are missing something. In America nobody buys a new car with cash, they make a payment plan for them where they make payment of $500 monthly for six years before they can claim full ownership of th vehicle. While in Nigeria we pay cash, those tokunbo flooded vehicles were all bought with millions. This is something 90% of Americans are incapable of. When you factor in cost of shipping, buying, clearing and profits added by the car dealer you will find out Nigeria are paying more to own a car than Americans. Most brand new cars here cost between 15million-25million naira so 10,000 is a huge number when you consider most were bought with cash

Alikote:
its in lagos that u see homeless people in kano, kd, jos ,ekiti osun only mad people stay out...u can get a room for 20 k peranum in zaria homeless is by choice in nijia highest u go do guard work ..free housing

mcstan18:


Can you please stop this blind argument? This thrash you just spewed here exposes your level of ignorance. If you must know, you're sounding extremely unintelligent with each post you make on this subject matter.

How dare you compare sleep with death? In your mind,
you're a patriotic Nigerian. "Are you more Catholic than the pope?" Are you more Nigerian than the president? Yet he understands the flawless fact that his 'beloved' country is not dependable by traveling abroad for treatment and vacation. How many presidents do you think can come to Nigeria to spend vacation times? Somebody should sha close this thread jor

mcstan18:


Can you please stop this blind argument? This thrash you just spewed here exposes your level of ignorance. If you must know, you're sounding extremely unintelligent with each post you make on this subject matter.

How dare you compare sleep with death? In your mind,
you're a patriotic Nigerian. "Are you more Catholic than the pope?" Are you more Nigerian than the president? Yet he understands the flawless fact that his 'beloved' country is not dependable by traveling abroad for treatment and vacation. How many presidents do you think can come to Nigeria to spend vacation times? Somebody should sha close this thread jor

timesup234:
Ok sir. So show me any data that states just 10% of Americans can afford to buy a new car with cash. So in this case America is the death since most of her citizens are depressed and are likely to commit suicide in the new year, while we throw money at party every week here in Nigeria

Aphrodite007:


Smh! It’s only kids that argue this way. We are talking about a country that offers security, certainty, light, livelihood, medical care with empathy and this one is talking of car! As in, car! Damn, I admire your level of intelligence boss. I hail!

mcstan18:


Just imagine your level of thinking.
It is really shocking. May God help us

Alikote:
than to join the 40 m homeless people in america e better make person dey 50 k self contain for ekiti ...they do farm and poultry mr thinking

Aphrodite007:


Smh! It’s only kids that argue this way. We are talking about a country that offers security, certainty, light, livelihood, medical care with empathy and this one is talking of car! As in, car! Damn, I admire your level of intelligence boss. I hail!

mcstan18:


If you must know Mr. Nigeria, I live "comfortably" here in Lagos, my own home at that but is that all there is to a quality life? Answer is a big, fat NO. I also intend to leave the country and that for the sake of my children's. I have come to understand that Naija isn't on the right path as a nation. You can be doing well for yourself as a person in biz or career, good for you. I'd want my children to grow up with the right mindset (not a loser's mindset of a 50k apartment living in some obscure location), understand the dignity in labor and enjoy quality living while remaining productive. My dear country would hardly offer these. You love your country, but does your country love you right back?

I love Naija, it is home but I also plan a future too, a big one at that. You'd be joking to think that your well set out plan today would remain feasible in five years in Nigeria with our year on year hyperinflation an terrible governance Even school fees would've doubled before one graduated. I mentioned something that shook me on another thread. I met a popular Lagos state legislator sitting for IELTS GT sometime in December. That sums it all up I think, if you'd reason it properly.

Bro, stay here (at least I still have my family here too) while we go to grow the population of Nigerians with the right mindset and grooming and we'd be back to make this country great again (if it ever was).

Thank you sir

mcstan18:


If you must know Mr. Nigeria, I live "comfortably" here in Lagos, my own home at that but is that all there is to a quality life? Answer is a big, fat NO. I also intend to leave the country and that for the sake of my children's. I have come to understand that Naija isn't on the right path as a nation. You can be doing well for yourself as a person in biz or career, good for you. I'd want my children to grow up with the right mindset (not a loser's mindset of a 50k apartment living in some obscure location), understand the dignity in labor and enjoy quality living while remaining productive. My dear country would hardly offer these. You love your country, but does your country love you right back?

I love Naija, it is home but I also plan a future too, a big one at that. You'd be joking to think that your well set out plan today would remain feasible in five years in Nigeria with our year on year hyperinflation an terrible governance Even school fees would've doubled before one graduated. I mentioned something that shook me on another thread. I met a popular Lagos state legislator sitting for IELTS GT sometime in December. That sums it all up I think, if you'd reason it properly.

Bro, stay here (at least I still have my family here too) while we go to grow the population of Nigerians with the right mindset and grooming and we'd be back to make this country great again (if it ever was).

Thank you sir

samuelkingz:

true talk bro..I concur...pls did you by any chance attend unilag and served in kano?

None of the above sir

ken4jj:

This is a long write up but it is very good to read for people who always compare Nigeria to the western countries

The problem with Nigeria is our mentality. An average Nigerian is all about money, money, houses, SUV etc and this is why this question is always coming up. Because of our greed and our ability to acquire, acquire and acquire, our society have been built on storing money, properties. It is not surprising to see Nigerians in Nigeria with fat bank account, many houses with high fence and big gate, high SUV yet the street they live is littered with bad roads and full of generator noise because that is what we care about.

The western world is different because they are not built for people to store money. Their system is designed for money to circulate. This is why even services we pay peanuts for here is Nigeria is costly abroad. Everyone is given the opportunity to live a base life and if you want to be rich you can use your brain and do something extraordinary. For example, a barber, cleaner, nanny etc in the western world has the opportunity to live a normal life. He can save a little money, make a little down payment and buy a house or car on mortgage despite being just a barber. He gets to enjoy his tokunbo car and 2 bedroom apartment even though he is paying for it in the next 10 years. Even if he dies before he finish paying, he cannot say that he didn’t enjoy the basic things of life. Enjoying the basic things of life is not left for the rich alone.
In Nigeria, some people can never enjoy the basic things of life forever. For example, a cleaner, nanny etc can never buy a car because Nigeria is designed for the rich to exploit the poor and there is no buffer to help the poor.

A top bank manager earning more than 1 million naira a month cannot bring out 50k to pay a Nanny or gateman. Instead he will go and bring one Ekaite from the village whom he will exploit as slave. Ekaite will do all the jobs in the house and will not even go to school for the first 3 years. After 3 years, they will now send her to a local school where children sit on the floor even though their own children are going to posh schools. During Christmas, they give Ekaite’s family a bag of rice and 20k and the family is happy due to poverty. But this same man store millions of naira in his account and building lots of houses yet his gateman is just paid 10k a month. In the western world, the bank manager will have over 60% of his earnings go into the payment of other services. That means he will pay the Nanny, guards, gardeners, cleaners, barber etc that works for him an hourly minimum wage. So he has little money to save and build mansions here and there but the good thing is that the people in the lower cadre live a normal life off him and the money circulates.

The Nigerian society is built for exploitation unlike the western world. The greatest disservice to poor man in Nigeria is that they are not paid hourly. The rich man/organizations takes all their time and pay them pea nut at the end of the month but a poor man aboard can work 24 hours and be paid for those 24 hours if he has the strength.

So before you travel, you need to understand how the western society works and what exactly you want. If your aim is to make millions and become rich, build houses here and there, the western society is not for you, you can become rich easier in Nigeria. It is only in Nigeria, you can become rich overnight.
You can go to china, import some substandard goods into the country, bribe SON and customs and sell your goods and make mega millions in a jiffy and build your mansions here and there. If you run a business, you can avoid paying taxes, just tip the FIRS and they would look the other way and you take those taxes you should have paid and build mansions for yourself, you are rich! The FIRS,Custom, SON guys make mega money and build their own mansions, you make your own mega money too, the ordinary people and the government are shortchanged but the govt is not bothered because they loot their own from crude oil directly. In fact, Nigeria is a goldmine if you have the mind and can throw away your conscience. Dem no born you well to not pay your taxes in the western world or do anyhow in the western world.

If you work in many organizations, you may not have to touch your salary because you will be getting illegal cash every day. For example, if you work in immigration, you will be getting 3k, 4k from people who want to get their passport else they may have to wait for one year to get it. If you work in universities, you will be getting extra 3k, 4k, 2k from people who wants their transcripts else they will look for your results for the next one year and so many examples. If you add up this monies, you can see that you are getting more than your salary from your little office. No wonder these civil servants you see have a lot of money. This is what you can never get abroad.

So you can see that it is easy to make it in Nigeria but it comes at a cost. A country where nothing works. No light, no water, bad roads, bad schools, hospitals, insecurity etc. There is no fine house in Nigeria that does not have a high fence and a big gate. In the western world, you would hardly see a fenced house because the police is 2 minutes away from your phone call.

So our mentality is different from the western world. While the western world cares more about the larger society, we care about our individual self and individual wealth and this is why we are richer individually than them but they are richer and better collectively as a society than us. The question you should ask before you travel is what you value more as an individual.

timesup234:
If your dream is to make money in life you have no business going abroad. Nigeria is where all the money is, the money you will make in Nigeria can never be made in any part of the world.

TWoods:


There is no money in Nigeria. It is simply a nation where pilfering of the public till is a national pastime.

TWoods:


There is no money in Nigeria. It is simply a nation where pilfering of the public till is a national pastime.

error4040:

This really got my ribs cracking [i] LoL bro he/she is More bitter than Bitter leaf it self .
Why is he bitter ? the Man/woman is a bloody hypocrite and i believe his reason was due to been denied multiple visas which made he/her to see anything America or europe as a Curse!!![/i]