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Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 6:36pm On Apr 10, 2010
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by noetic16(m): 10:14pm On Apr 10, 2010
where is olabs and abuzola?
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 3:21pm On Apr 11, 2010
noetic16:

where is olabs and abuzola?

On the run, grin
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by manmustwac(m): 3:36pm On Apr 11, 2010
obviously biased in favour of you christians
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 5:18pm On Apr 11, 2010
manmustwac:

obviously biased in favour of you christians

Nope not at all biased.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by toba: 9:41pm On Apr 11, 2010
No basis for comparism. One was a looter&a warrior,while the other was gentle
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by chakula(m): 7:46pm On Apr 12, 2010
where is olabs and abuzola?
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What is the matter?if there is anything that you wanted to know out of your knowledge you shall simply ask.


On the run, grin
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How sure you are? or you have a disscussion with them and tell you that.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 9:06pm On Apr 12, 2010
How sure you are? or you have a disscussion with them and tell you that.





The TOP 20 Differences between Jesus and Mohammed

01.  Jesus was born of a virgin.
        Mohammed was born in the normal way.

In the Bible the prophet Isaiah predicts the virgin birth [Isa 7:14] and Davidic lineage [Isa 11:1], the prophet Micah predicts his origins are “from ancient times” and he will be born in Bethlehem [Mic 5:2] and then Jesus’ disciple, Matthew confirms the virgin birth. [Matt 1:18-25]
That Mohammed was born in the normal way is confirmed by ibn Hisham pp 68-69.

02.  Jesus served God even as a small child
        Mohammed worshipped idols until he was 41yo.

Jesus received instruction on scripture from age 12 in the Temple. [Luke 2:39-52]
Mohammed, born circa 570AD was an idolater until he received his first revelation circa 611AD aged about 41 years. [Bukhari vol 6 p452]

03.  Jesus read the Bible, even from an early age.
        Mohammed was illiterate.

The Bible in many places tells of Jesus reading from scripture in the Temple, whereas the Quran describes Mohammed as illiterate. [Q7.157]

04.  Jesus obeyed God and preached the Gospel and lived on donations.
       Mohammed, without being commanded by Allah, began to steal and acquired booty.

Jesus both taught the Gospel at God’s command [Luke 4:16-21] and survived on the generosity of supporters. [Luke 8:1-3] Mohammed however, without any divine commandment, began to steal from others and live on stolen goods. [ibn Hisham pp 281-]

05.  Jesus taught that the MEEK will inherit the earth.
       Mohammed taught that through TERROR you will inherit the earth.

In one of the most beautiful and moving passages in the Bible, Jesus teaches “blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth” and “blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God”. [Beatitudes Matt 5:2-12]

Mohammed teaches the opposite and claims “I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)” [Bukhari 4.220]  And from the Quran “I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." [Q8.12]

06.  Jesus performed miracles.
       Mohammed could NOT perform miracles.

From the New Testament, Jesus performed dozens of miracles, the first being at the wedding in Cana where Jesus turned water into wine. [John 2:1-11] At the Last Supper, Jesus made a new and everlasting covenant with bread and wine which represents the body and blood of Christ. [Matt 26:26-29]
Mohammed however banned wine! Neither did Mohammed perform miracles. [Q29.50]
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07.  Jesus made those who were blind to see.
       Mohammed made those who could see to be blind.

Jesus healed a blind beggar near Jericho. [Luke 18:35-43]
Mohammed put out the eyes of prisoners so they lost their sight. [Bukhari 8.794]

08.  Jesus made those who were lame to walk.
       Mohammed made those who could walk to be lame.

Jesus healed a paralysed man lying on a bed. [Matt 9:2-8]
Mohammed made those who could walk to be lame. [Bukhari 8.794]

09.  Jesus healed withered hands.
       Mohammed cut off hands.

Jesus healed a man with a withered hand in a synagogue. [Matt 12:9-13]
Mohammed cut off the hands of others [Bukhari 8.795] and now it is enshrined in Sharia Law.

10.  Jesus saved an adulterous woman from stoning.
       Mohammed stoned women for adultery.
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Jesus came upon a woman accused of adultery, who was to be stoned, and he said to the crowd “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” and so banned this practise. [John 8:1-11]
About 600 years later, Mohammed practised stoning and it is legal under Sharia Law for Muslims.

.  Jesus raised the dead back to life.
       Mohammed caused those who had life to be dead.

Jesus raised Lazarus to life from his tomb near Bethany. [John 11:17-44]
Mohammed killed the living [ibn Hisham p308] and of course took part in beheading Jews of the Banu Quraiza tribe. [Q33:25-27] Mohammed participated in about 29 battles.

12.  Jesus forgave his opponents.
       Mohammed murdered his opponents.

Jesus forgave the sinner crucified beside him on Calvary. [Luke 23:42-43]
Mohammed however had his opponents murdered. [Bukhari  vol 5, pp 248-]
                                                                                                                     
13.  Jesus set the condemned free.
       Mohammed condemned the free and set them into slavery.Slavery

Jesus set the condemned free, like the woman accused of adultery. [John 8:1-11]
Mohammed condemned free men captured in battle and put them into slavery. [ibn Hisham p466]
Slavery is legal in all four schools of Islamic Sharia Law and is still practised today.

14.  Jesus taught to store up treasures in Heaven.
       Mohammed taught to store up booty on Earth.

Jesus tells a rich man who had kept the Ten Commandments that he was to sell all he owned and give to the poor to store up treasures in Heaven. [Luke 18:18-25]
Mohammed stored up booty taken in battle and divided it up among his followers, with one fifth going to Allah’s apostle.

15.  Jesus preached for a one man-one woman marriage and against polygamy.
       Mohammed allowed men to have four wives, temporary marriages as well as concubines.

Jesus taught that “a man shall leave his father and be joined to his wife and they will become ONE flesh.
[Ephesians 5:21-33]
Mohammed allowed up to 4 wives, as well as concubines, or “what your right hand possesses”.

[Q4.3] Mohammed also condoned “temporary” marriages, such as Muta ( temporary marriage for pleasure) and Misyar (traveller’s marriage) to suit people with independent lives.

16.  Jesus preached against divorce.
       Mohammed made divorce easy for men but NOT for women.

Jesus gives strict conditions on divorce, citing unchastity as grounds for divorce. [Matt 5:31-32]
Mohammed permits a man to divorce his wife merely by uttering three times “you are divorced”, and the wife doesn’t even have to be present. Text messages can do the trick in today’s electronic age.

17.  Jesus taught that in Heaven people would be “as angels” and not marry.
       Mohammed said that men in Heaven enjoy endless intimacy with virgins.

Jesus said that in Heaven that people wont marry or be given in marriage and that they will be “as angels” [Matt 22:30], whereas Mohammed promised endless intimacy for men with many virgins. [Q55:54-78]

Paradise
Mohammed’s vision of Heaven for men

18.  Jesus was sinless.
       Mohammed was sinful.

Throughout the New Testament, Jesus by his actions is sinless, and is confirmed here. [John 8:46]
Throughout the Quran and Hadith, Mohammed broke most of the Ten Commandments of Moses.

19.  Jesus predicted his death and resurrection many times.
       Mohammed had no idea and died unexpectedly of a suspected poisoning.

Jesus predicted his own death and resurrection three times while he was still with his disciples. First in Matthew 16:21, then in Matthew 17:22-23 and thirdly in Matthew 20:17-19.
Mohammed however, had no knowledge of his pending death and died unexpectedly, suspecting he may have been poisoned. [Bukhari vol 5, p510]

20.  Jesus rose from the dead on the third day and ascended into Heaven.
       Mohammed was buried on the third day in Medina and is still in his grave.

All 4 Gospels of the New Testament report both the crucifixion [Matt 27:33-44] and resurrection of Jesus after 3 days. [Matt 28:1-10]  The Quran denies the crucifixion [Q4.157], but also allows it. [Q19:33]
Mohammed was buried in Medina 3 days after his death. [Tabari vol 9, p208]

Conclusion
From the above 20 examples, it is abundantly clear that Mohammed is in no way equal to Jesus, and actually opposed the teachings of Jesus, twisting and distorting his message of LOVE and TOLERANCE into a message of HATE and INTOLERANCE.

I can only imagine the anguish in Heaven as they watch Palestinian children dressed up in army clothes and brandishing weapons, proclaiming they will DIE for Allah, as their proud parents watch on.

It is worth restating the obvious DIFFERENCE between God and Allah.

The God of Jesus sent HIS Son to die for YOU.

The God of Mohammed demands that YOU send YOUR Son to die for HIM.

The time is rapidly approaching when all of us who haven’t joined the Ummah, will have to make a choice, so I hope this little summary will be of benefit in understanding fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam.

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Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by Niyi53(m): 10:17pm On Apr 12, 2010
i dont know why people do make unreasonable conclusions about things they do not have full knowledge of!!! the bible haas told you make investigation and stick to the truth. look
@frosbel, start asking your questions one after the other and by God's grace i would give you the necessary replies
1) the birth of jesus is no a new thing. there are more miraculous birth of people than that of jesus. the birth of jesus is more understood if one studies the phenomenon of pathenogenesis. in the bible,hebrews 7:1-3, 'for this mel-chis'e-dec, king of salem, priest of the most high God, who meet Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and bless him; to whom Abraham gave a tenth path of all ; first been by interpretation king of righteousness, and after that also king of salem, which is king of peace; without father, without mother, without decent, having neither begining of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the son of God; abideth a priest continually. adam was born without any parent eve also without mother

2)may God Almighty forgive you for that statement of yours that Holy Prophet Muhammed was worshipping idols till the age of 41. THAT IS A BLATANT LIE. he neva worshipped idols through out his life

3) His been an illitrate is a miracle and also a prove that the quran is a true book. the disbelievers of mecca do not believe him, but they were surprised that how could he have gotten this kind of inspiration. that was why they were forced to say "it is not but a lie which he has forged, and other people have helped him with it." indeed, they have brought forth an injustice and an untruth. and they say fables of the ancients; and he has got them written down, and they are dictated to him morning and evening   (25:5-6)
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by AIRDIG(m): 10:20pm On Apr 14, 2010
How about some  TOP TEN parallels between Horus and Jesus Christ:

1. Horus born of a virgin.
   Jesus born of a virgin.

2. The foster father of Horus was Seb or Seph.
    Jesus was fostered by Joseph.

3. Horus was of royal descent.
    Jesus was of royal descent.

4. Horus birth accompanied by 3 solar deities [star gazers] who followed by the morning star of Sirius bearing gifts.
   Jesus birth accompanied by 3 wise men [Zoroastrian star gazers] followed a star “in the east” bearing  gifts.

5. The birth of Horus announced by angels.
    The birth of Jesus announced by angels.

6. Herut tried to murder the infant Horus.
    Herod slaughtered every first born in an attempt to kill Jesus the forthcoming messiah.

7. Horus is baptized at age 30 by Anup the Baptiser at a river.
    Jesus is baptized at age 30 by John the Baptist at a river.

8. Horus resists temptation by the evil Sut on a high mountain.
    Jesus resists temptation by Satan on a high mountain.

9. Horus had 12 followers.
    Jesus had 12 disciples.

10. Horus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.
     Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.

QUESTION: Does the cult of Horus prove that Christianity is false?
http://atheistempire.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/the-cult-of-horus/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRuxCofh6xs
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 10:23pm On Apr 14, 2010
AIRDIG:

How about some  TOP TEN parallels between Horus and Jesus Christ:

1. Horus born of a virgin.
   Jesus born of a virgin.

2. The foster father of Horus was Seb or Seph.
    Jesus was fostered by Joseph.

3. Horus was of royal descent.
    Jesus was of royal descent.

4. Horus birth accompanied by 3 solar deities [star gazers] who followed by the morning star of Sirius bearing gifts.
   Jesus birth accompanied by 3 wise men [Zoroastrian star gazers] who followed by a star “in the east” bearing  gifts.

5. The birth of Horus announced by angels.
    The birth of Jesus announced by angels.

6. Herut tried to murder the infant Horus.
    Herod slaughtered every first born in an attempt to kill Jesus the forthcoming messiah.

7. Horus is baptized at age 30 by Anup the Baptiser at a river.
    Jesus is baptized at age 30 by John the Baptist at a river.

8. Horus resists temptation by the evil Sut on a high mountain.
    Jesus resists temptation by Satan on a high mountain.

9. Horus had 12 followers.
    Jesus had 12 disciples.

10. Horus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.
     Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.

http://atheistempire.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/the-cult-of-horus/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRuxCofh6xs


QUESTION
Does the cult of Horus prove that Christianity is false?





1) Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

Let’s take this one apart and deal with each separate issue:

Horus’ mother was not a virgin. She was married to Osiris, and there is no reason to suppose she was abstinent after marriage.  Horus was, per the story, miraculously conceived.  Seth had killed and dismembered Osiris, then Isis put her husband's dead body back together and had intercourse with it. In some versions, she used a hand-made phallus since she wasn't able to find that part of her husband.  So while it was a miraculous conception, it was not a virgin birth.

Horus was given three different birthdates in mythology, one of which does correspond to December 25th.  But since Jesus wasn't, per the evidence, born on 12/25, this isn't a parallel.

"Meri" (technically "Mr-ee"wink is the egyptian word for "beloved" and was apparently applied to Isis prior to Jesus' time, as a title, not as part of her name.  But since there were probably thousands of women between Horus' time and Jesus' with a name or title that was a variation on "Mary", there's no real reason to suppose that Jesus' mother was named after Isis in particular.  Even if, hypothetically, the Gospel authors themselves fabricated Jesus' mother and decided to name her "Mary", it's far more likely that they named her after other women from around their time named "Mary" than it is that they named her after "Isis-Meri"

Horus was born in a swamp, not a cave/manger.  Acharya's footnotes for this point only make the claim that Jesus was born in a cave, and say nothing about Horus being born in one.

Horus' birth was not announced by a star in the east

There were no “three wise men” at Horus’ birth, or at Jesus’ for that matter (the Bible never gives the number of wise men, and they showed up at Jesus’ home, not at the manger, probably when Jesus was a year or two old).

Acharya's source for the last two claims appears to be Massey, who says "the Star in the East that arose to announce the birth of the babe (Jesus) was Orion, which is therefore called the star of Horus. That was once the star of the three kings; for the 'three kings' is still a name of three stars in Orion's belt . . . "  Massey's apparently getting mixed up, and then the critics are misinterpreting it.  Orion is not a star, but a constellation, of which there are three stars in a row making up the belt of Orion.  However, there is no evidence that these three stars were called the "Three Kings" prior to Jesus' time, nor even prior to the 19th century, for that matter.

And even if there is a specific star called 'the star of Horus', there's no legend stating that it announced Horus' birth (as the critics are claiming) or that the three stars in Orion's belt attended Horus' birth in any way.

2) His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph"wink.

First of all, there is no parallel between the Egyptian name “Seb” and the Hebrew name “Joseph”, other than the fact that they’re common names. Also, Seb was Osiris’ father, not Horus’.

3) He was of royal descent.

This one’s true!  But it's not really a comparison to Jesus.  When followers speak of Jesus being of 'royal descent', they usually mean His being a descendent of King David, an earthly king.  Horus was, according to the myth, descended from heavenly royalty (as Jesus was), being the son of the main god.


4) At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.

He never taught in any temple and was never baptized. Also, Jesus didn't 'disappear' in the years between His teaching in the temple and baptism. He worked humbly as a carpenter.
Please follow link to read rest of article


5) Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"wink, who was decapitated.

Again, Horus was never baptized. There is no “Anup the Baptizer” in the story.

6) He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns"wink.

Horus had four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’). There’s another reference to sixteen followers, and a group of followers called ‘mesnui’ (blacksmiths) who join Horus in battle, but are never numbered. But there’s no reference to twelve followers or any of them being named “Anup” or “Aan”.

7) He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"wink, from the dead.

He did perform miracles, but he never exorcised demons or raised his father from the dead. Also, Osiris is never referred to as ‘El-Azarus’ or ‘El-Osiris’ (clearly an attempt to make his name more closely resemble the Bible’s “Lazarus”).

cool Horus walked on water.

No, he did not.


For rest of article ------> http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/JesusHorus.html
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 10:25pm On Apr 14, 2010
AIRDIG:

How about some  TOP TEN parallels between Horus and Jesus Christ:

1. Horus born of a virgin.
   Jesus born of a virgin.

2. The foster father of Horus was Seb or Seph.
    Jesus was fostered by Joseph.

3. Horus was of royal descent.
    Jesus was of royal descent.

4. Horus birth accompanied by 3 solar deities [star gazers] who followed by the morning star of Sirius bearing gifts.
   Jesus birth accompanied by 3 wise men [Zoroastrian star gazers] who followed by a star “in the east” bearing  gifts.

5. The birth of Horus announced by angels.
    The birth of Jesus announced by angels.

6. Herut tried to murder the infant Horus.
    Herod slaughtered every first born in an attempt to kill Jesus the forthcoming messiah.

7. Horus is baptized at age 30 by Anup the Baptiser at a river.
    Jesus is baptized at age 30 by John the Baptist at a river.

8. Horus resists temptation by the evil Sut on a high mountain.
    Jesus resists temptation by Satan on a high mountain.

9. Horus had 12 followers.
    Jesus had 12 disciples.

10. Horus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.
     Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.

http://atheistempire.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/the-cult-of-horus/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRuxCofh6xs


QUESTION
Does the cult of Horus prove that Christianity is false?



But what makes this so so laughable is that, this is the same Jesus Christ that Muslims purport to belive in ONLY when it suits them. Hypocrites !!

So you are blaspheming your prophet Jesus, what a time waster ! grin
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by AIRDIG(m): 11:16pm On Apr 14, 2010
What a fellow!
All of a sudden, Frosbel's Jesus Christ has turned to Moslem's, of course when it suit him. (by the way I ask you a sarcastic question based on your antics at false parallels but hate's got you blinded)

Given the hate-filled disposition to anything Islam/Muslim and your perchant for half-truth & false recriminations, it goes without saying, that talking to you is dissipative. You and your squeamish shenanigans.

Even if I'm to attune my belief to Christianity tomorrow, I'll stay away from the likes of you, PHONY LIAR!
I will implore Moslems to direct their attention to those who come with honest criticism of Islam/Moslems (same goes for Christianity)

Plus you don't have to lie to win a chap debates. (Even the devil knows all your accusation below bothers on inordinate falsehood.)
frosbel:

Mohammed worshipped idols until he was 41yo.
Mohammed, born circa 570AD was an idolater until he received his first revelation circa 611AD aged about 41 years. [Bukhari vol 6 p452]

Mohammed, without being commanded by Allah, began to steal and acquired booty.
Mohammed however, without any divine commandment, began to steal from others and live on stolen goods. [ibn Hisham pp 281-]

Mohammed taught that through TERROR you will inherit the earth.
Mohammed cut off the hands of others [Bukhari 8.795] and now it is enshrined in Sharia Law.
Mohammed made divorce easy for men but NOT for women.
Mohammed was sinful.  etc.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 11:25pm On Apr 14, 2010
AIRDIG:

What a fellow!
All of a sudden, Frosbel's Jesus Christ has turned to Moslem's, of course when it suit him. (by the way I ask you a sarcastic question based on your antics at false parallels but hate's got you blinded)

Given the hate-filled disposition to anything Islam/Muslim and your perchant for half-truth & false recriminations, it goes without saying, that talking to you is dissipative. You and your squeamish shenanigans.

Even if I'm to attune my belief to Christianity tomorrow, I'll stay away from the likes of you, liar!
I will implore Moslems to direct their attention to those who come with honest criticism of Islam/Moslems (same goes for Christianity)

Plus you don't have to lie to win a chap debates. (Even the devil knows all your accusation below bothers on inordinate falsehood.)

I have no time for your lies, lies and more lies.


Bye , lol.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by Gabry(f): 1:39am On Apr 15, 2010
I dont know why are u guys comparing Nabi Muhammad and Jesus Christ. For your information, in the Al Quran, Jesus Christ name is Nabi Isa that means the Muslim religion also recognizes Jesus Christ. I dont see the point of comparing at all. . . They both are two different individuals whom have done things which is highly respected by mankind depending on the religion. Thats all. So cut the crap with all this bulls. . h. . i. . t comparison!  angry
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:13am On Apr 15, 2010
In response to opening post the quote explains their differences in the article below and the difference is clear.

MOHAMMED VS CHRIST

In his article “Self Hate, Revisionist History and Christophobia in the Movie Kingdom of Heaven” Dr. Ted Baehr notes some of the differences between Mohammed and Christ:

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[li]Mohammad was the prophet of war; Christ is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6-7). [/li]
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[li]Mohammad's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Tim. 4:7).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad promoted persecution against the "infidels"; Christ forgave and converted the chief persecutor (1 Tim. 1:13-15).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad was the taker of life; Christ is the giver of life (John 10:27-28).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad and his fellow warriors murdered thousands; Christ murdered none but saved many (John 12:48).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad’s method was COMPULSION; Christ’s aim was CONVERSION (Acts 3:19). [/li]
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[li]Mohammad practiced FORCE; Christ preached FAITH (John 6:29, 35).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad was a WARRIOR; Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thess. 1:10).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad said to the masses, "Convert or die!"; Christ said, "Believe and live!" (John 6:47; 11:25-26).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad was swift to shed blood (Rom. 3:15-17); Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Eph. 1:7). [/li]
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[li]Mohammad preached "Death to the infidels!"; Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad declared a holy war (Jihad) against infidels; Christ achieved a holy victory on Calvary's cross (Col. 2:14-15) and His followers share in that victory (John 16:33).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad constrained people by conquest; Christ constrained people by love (2 Cor. 5:14).[/li]
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[li]Modern terrorists derive their inspiration from Mohammad and carry out their despicable atrocities in the name of his god; Christians derive their inspiration from the One who said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" (Matthew 5:9).[/li]
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[li]Modern day disciples of Mohammad respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets; modern day disciples of Christ are deeply grieved at past atrocities carried out by those who were "Christians" in name only (the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc.).[/li]
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[li]Many Muslims are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder; many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder (Rom. 12:17-21).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad called upon his servants to fight; Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world; if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight . . . but now is My kingdom not from here" (John 18:36)[/li]
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[li]Mohammad ordered death to the Jews (see A.Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford University Press [1975], p. 369); Christ ordered that the Gospel be preached "to the Jew first" (Rom. 1:16). [/li]
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[li]The Qur'an says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (Qu'ran 9.5); Christ said, "Preach the Gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15). [/li]
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[li]Mohammad's mission was to conquer the world for Allah; Christ's mission was to conquer sin's penalty and power by substitutionary atonement (2 Cor. 5:21; 1 Pet. 3:18).[/li]
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[li]Mohammad claimed that there was but one God, Allah; Christ claimed that He was God (John 10:30-31; John 8:58-59; John 5:18; John 14:9). [/li]
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[li]Mohammad's Tomb: OCCUPIED! Christ's tomb: EMPTY! ” [/li]
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http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/crusades_all
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by Ndipe(m): 3:45am On Apr 15, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

In response to opening post the quote explains their differences in the article below and the difference is clear.

MOHAMMED VS CHRIST

In his article “Self Hate, Revisionist History and Christophobia in the Movie Kingdom of Heaven” Dr. Ted Baehr notes some of the differences between Mohammed and Christ:

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[li]“ Mohammed was the prophet of war; Christ is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6-7). [/li]
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[li]Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Tim. 4:7).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed promoted persecution against the "infidels"; Christ forgave and converted the chief persecutor (1 Tim. 1:13-15).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed was the taker of life; Christ is the giver of life (John 10:27-28).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed and his fellow warriors murdered thousands; Christ murdered none but saved many (John 12:48).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed’s method was COMPULSION; Christ’s aim was CONVERSION (Acts 3:19). [/li]
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[li]Mohammed practiced FORCE; Christ preached FAITH (John 6:29, 35).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed was a WARRIOR; Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thess. 1:10).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed said to the masses, "Convert or die!"; Christ said, "Believe and live!" (John 6:47; 11:25-26).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed was swift to shed blood (Rom. 3:15-17); Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Eph. 1:7). [/li]
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[li]Mohammed preached "Death to the infidels!"; Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed declared a holy war (Jihad) against infidels; Christ achieved a holy victory on Calvary's cross (Col. 2:14-15) and His followers share in that victory (John 16:33).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed constrained people by conquest; Christ constrained people by love (2 Cor. 5:14).[/li]
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[li]Modern terrorists derive their inspiration from Mohammed and carry out their despicable atrocities in the name of his god; Christians derive their inspiration from the One who said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" (Matthew 5:9).[/li]
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[li]Modern day disciples of Mohammed respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets; modern day disciples of Christ are deeply grieved at past atrocities carried out by those who were "Christians" in name only (the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc.).[/li]
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[li]Many Muslims are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder; many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder (Rom. 12:17-21).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed called upon his servants to fight; Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world; if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight . . . but now is My kingdom not from here" (John 18:36)[/li]
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[li]Mohammed ordered death to the Jews (see A.Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford University Press [1975], p. 369); Christ ordered that the Gospel be preached "to the Jew first" (Rom. 1:16). [/li]
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[li]The Qur'an says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (Qu'ran 9.5); Christ said, "Preach the Gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15). [/li]
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[li]Mohammed's mission was to conquer the world for Allah; Christ's mission was to conquer sin's penalty and power by substitutionary atonement (2 Cor. 5:21; 1 Pet. 3:18).[/li]
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[li]Mohammed claimed that there was but one God, Allah; Christ claimed that He was God (John 10:30-31; John 8:58-59; John 5:18; John 14:9). [/li]
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[li]Mohammed's Tomb: OCCUPIED! Christ's tomb: EMPTY! ” [/li]
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http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/crusades_all

Excellent!
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by fellis(f): 5:41am On Apr 15, 2010
Let us not fight each other, please. Airdig, I assume you are a muslim and I want to advice you to relate peacefully with non muslims on nairaland, although I know that they might make doing that difficult at times. Answer with peace, like the Qur'an says.
I am sick and tired of people hiding their religiously biased a*ses behind internet anonymity.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:15am On Apr 15, 2010
fellis:

Let us not fight each other, please. Airdig, I assume you are a muslim and I want to advice you to relate peacefully with non muslims on nairaland, although I know that they might make doing that difficult at times. Answer with peace, like the Qur'an says.
I am sick and tired of people hiding their religiously biased a*ses behind internet anonymity.

Men of peace indeed shocked

Click on the link below and see for yourself how peaceful you really are.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1031/1031_01.asp

Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by nopuqeater: 1:00pm On Apr 15, 2010
@Ndipe: Whats excellent about a lie, except that it is a lie in the heart of those who conjures it up, but passing it as a lie?

@Olaadegbu; Satisfy your unsatiable appetite for deceit. It will not benefit you except it continues to enslave your heart in worshipping a human being, creation instead of God Almighty the Creator. Those who will rush to your lies will have the same nature like you, wanting somebody to be responsible for their shortcomings, installing an intercessor without authority from God, between God and man His creation.

Was Jesus a peaceful man or more peaceful than John or Zachariah? I remember Jesus abused people verbally and even physically. Neither did John or Zachariah did.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:09pm On Apr 15, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu; Satisfy your unsatiable appetite for deceit. It will not benefit you except it continues to enslave your heart in worshipping a human being, creation instead of God Almighty the Creator. Those who will rush to your lies will have the same nature like you, wanting somebody to be responsible for their shortcomings, installing an intercessor without authority from God, between God and man His creation.

Was Jesus a peaceful man or more peaceful than John or Zachariah? I remember Jesus abused people verbally and even physically. Neither did John or Zachariah did.

Is Jesus one of the prophets that you honour?  It doesn't seem that you are a good muslim since you are fund of taking pot shots at your prophet or is he not?
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by AIRDIG(m): 9:52pm On Apr 15, 2010
@Olaadegbu
Candidly speaking, it depends on which Jesus Christ you are talking about:
Besides, what's it with you & magic? uhm? Now, Jesus Christ is a Moslem's prophet, next he's not (of course when it suit him). Obviously, the Muslims do not believe in your Jesus= son = father = "ghost"

And talking about this equation in relation to your assertion above; I guess you got it bad, cos it's obvious you are into some form of deceit and slight of hand.

How dare you boast about your abracadabra-ish twist of "Jesus" peacefulness & culpability, for:
if Jesus= son = father = "ghost"

then he is the following and more: 
    * Jesus was the king of war (Deuteronomy 20.11, 18)
    * Jesus disciples killed for the faith ((Judges 15.16)
    * Jesus promoted persecution against the "infidels"(2 Kings 10.19.30)
    * Jesus was the taker of life (Judges 11.29, 39)
    *Jesus and his fellow warriors murdered thousands (Judges 1.2, 7).
    * Jesus’ method was C[b]OMPULSION[/b] (Luke 19.27)
    * Jesus is a hater of the physically impaired (Lame, deaf, Blind) (Leviticus (21:16,24)
    * Jesus practiced FORCE and uses evil spirit to torment people (1 Samuel 16:14)
    * Jesus was a WARRIOR (Exodus 15.3, Genesis 32.24)
    * Jesus said to the masses, "Convert or die!" (John 15:6)
    * Jesus is a slave master, preaches slavery; dont blame white europeans blame Jesus (Leviticus 25.44)
    * Jesus swift to shed blood (1Chronicles 13.9,10, Numbers 16.41,45)
    * Jesus preached "Death to the infidels!" (Deuteronomy 13.5,9)
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by AIRDIG(m): 9:55pm On Apr 15, 2010
CONT'D
    * Jesus declared a holy[b] war[/b] (Crusade) against infidels (Judges 15.16, Exodus 34.13).
    * Jesus constrained people by conquest; (Numbers 31.17,18).
    * Crusaders/terrorists derive their inspiration from Jesus and carry out their despicable atrocities in his name (2 Kings 10.19.30, http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/murderers.htm)
    * Followers & disciples of Jesus respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets (http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm, )
    * Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder (Exodus 34.13, Exodus 22.18)
    * Jesus called upon his servants to fight; (Joshua 10.11)
    * Jesus called upon his servants to LIE (Romans 3.7)
    * Jesus ordered death to the Philistines, Hittite, and Jebusites etc (Deuteronomy 20.11,18)
    * The Bible says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (2 Chronicles 14, Exodus 22.18)
    * Jesus' mission was to conquer the world  and continue with the sword (Matthew 5:17)
    * Jesus claimed that there was but one God (Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29, 1 Chronicles 17:20)
    * Jesus' tomb: EMPTY!  (Yeah! only dead men have tomb)

The same Jesus=Son of god=god who wrestled with Jacob all night & displaced his hip? a man of peace?
Abeg make I hear word & Pls, stop your phony lies!
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:08pm On Apr 15, 2010
@AIRDIG,

What is it with muslims and plagiarism?  Did you have to plagiarise what I posted and then twist it to suit your own purpose?  That is how the Bible got plagiarised and twisted to satisfy the lustful desires of some arabic folks.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 10:33pm On Apr 15, 2010
AIRDIG:

@Olaadegbu
Candidly speaking, it depends on which Jesus Christ you are talking about:
Besides, what's it with you & magic? uhm? Now, Jesus Christ is a Moslem's prophet, next he's not (of course when it suit him)
Obviously, the Muslims do not believe in your Jesus= son = father = "ghost"

And talking about this equation in relation to your assertion above; I guess you got it bad, cos it's obvious you are into some form of deceit and slight of hand.

How dare you boast about your abracadabra-ish twist of "Jesus" peacefulness & culpability, for:
if Jesus= son = father = "ghost"

then he is the following and more: 
    * Jesus was the king of war (Deuteronomy 20.11, 18)
    * Jesus disciples killed for the faith ((Judges 15.16)
    * Jesus promoted persecution against the "infidels"(2 Kings 10.19.30)
    * Jesus was the taker of life (Judges 11.29, 39)
    *Jesus and his fellow warriors murdered thousands (Judges 1.2, 7).
    * Jesus’ method was C[b]OMPULSION[/b] (Luke 19.27)
    * Jesus is a hater of the physically impaired (Lame, deaf, Blind) (Leviticus (21:16,24)
    * Jesus practiced FORCE and uses evil spirit to torment people (1 Samuel 16:14)
    * Jesus was a WARRIOR (Exodus 15.3, Genesis 32.24)
    * Jesus said to the masses, "Convert or die!" (John 15:6)
    * Jesus is a slave master, preaches slavery; dont blame white europeans blame Jesus (Leviticus 25.44)
    * Jesus swift to shed blood (1Chronicles 13.9,10, Numbers 16.41,45)
    * Jesus preached "Death to the infidels!" (Deuteronomy 13.5,9)



Oh my muslim brothers, how you contradict and expose yourselves.

So you now agree that Jesus Christ the messiah existed before time and is the GOD of the old testament, otherwise how could you possibly say that  "Jesus was the king of war (Deuteronomy 20.11, 18)" especially since Jesus Christ came in the biblical new testament.

Thank GOD that with your own mouth you have confessed that Jesus Christ is indeed God.

Romans 11 : 33
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 10:39pm On Apr 15, 2010
Jesus' tomb: EMPTY! (Yeah! only dead men have tomb)


Yes the Tomb of Jesus is Empty, indeed he is risen !



Muhammad is still in his Tomb.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by nopuqeater: 10:56pm On Apr 15, 2010
@Olaadegbu: « #20 on: Today at 01:09:34 PM »
Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 01:00:51 PM
@Olaadegbu; Satisfy your unsatiable appetite for deceit. It will not benefit you except it continues to enslave your heart in worshipping a human being, creation instead of God Almighty the Creator. Those who will rush to your lies will have the same nature like you, wanting somebody to be responsible for their shortcomings, installing an intercessor without authority from God, between God and man His creation.

Was Jesus a peaceful man or more peaceful than John or Zachariah? I remember Jesus abused people verbally and even physically. Neither did John or Zachariah did.

Is Jesus one of the prophets that you honour? It doesn't seem that you are a good muslim since you are fund of taking pot shots at your prophet or is he not.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by nopuqeater: 11:03pm On Apr 15, 2010
@Olaadegbu: « #20 on: Today at 01:09:34 PM »
Quote from: nopuqeater on Today at 01:00:51 PM
@Olaadegbu; Satisfy your unsatiable appetite for deceit. It will not benefit you except it continues to enslave your heart in worshipping a human being, creation instead of God Almighty the Creator. Those who will rush to your lies will have the same nature like you, wanting somebody to be responsible for their shortcomings, installing an intercessor without authority from God, between God and man His creation.

Was Jesus a peaceful man or more peaceful than John or Zachariah? I remember Jesus abused people verbally and even physically. Neither did John or Zachariah did.

Is Jesus one of the prophets that you honour? It doesn't seem that you are a good muslim since you are fund of taking pot shots at your prophet or is he not.
Jesus the son of Mary who herarded the coming of Muhammad as Ahmad in Surah Saffa verse 6, the Jesus who says he is a prophet of Allah and asked his companions as helper of his ministry in the cause of Allah in Surah Maida, Jesus whom Allah says in Surah Nisaa that was not crucified nor killed but made to appear so to those whose heart waivered, is my Prophet. Thats different from your Jesus of 1 part of 3 parts making up a single God. Sorry if you did not know the difference. Now you have it.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 11:28pm On Apr 15, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Olaadegbu: « #20 on: Today at 01:09:34 PM » Jesus the son of Mary who herarded the coming of Muhammad as Ahmad in Surah Saffa verse 6, the Jesus who says he is a prophet of Allah and asked his companions as helper of his ministry in the cause of Allah in Surah Maida, Jesus whom Allah says in Surah Nisaa that was not crucified nor killed but made to appear so to those whose heart waivered, is my Prophet. Thats different from your Jesus of 1 part of 3 parts making up a single God. Sorry if you did not know the difference. Now you have it.



Show me in the BIBLE where Jesus Christ heralded the coming of Muhammad. Please do it now.

Why can the Quran not stand the test of its own authenticity, why does it have to desperately comb through the Jewish Torah and Christian scriptural texts to prove its authenticity ? lol.

I am waiting for your answer !
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by AIRDIG(m): 12:01am On Apr 16, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

@AIRDIG,

What is it with muslims and plagiarism?  Did you have to plagiarise what I posted and then twist it to suit your own purpose?  That is how the Bible got plagiarised and twisted to satisfy the lustful desires of some arabic folks.

It's called, paying you back in your own coin. So stop the pretense.
You have two(2) choices: Walk away or if you are "worth your weight in feathers," debunk the assertions.

Whatever your choice be honest. it's better to be "OLAADEGBU the CRITIC" than "OLAADEGBU the LIAR"

Here it is again for your pleasure:
AIRDIG:

@Olaadegbu
Candidly speaking, it depends on which Jesus Christ you are talking about:
Besides, what's it with you & magic? uhm? Now, Jesus Christ is a Moslem's prophet, next he's not (of course when it suit him) Obviously, the Muslims do not believe in your Jesus= son = father = "ghost"

And talking about this equation in relation to your assertion above; I guess you got it bad, cos it's obvious you are into some form of deceit and slight of hand.

How dare you boast about your abracadabra-ish twist of "Jesus" peacefulness & culpability, for:
if Jesus= son = father = "ghost"

then he is the following and more: 
    * Jesus was the king of war (Deuteronomy 20.11, 18)
    * Jesus disciples killed for the faith ((Judges 15.16)
    * Jesus promoted persecution against the "infidels"(2 Kings 10.19.30)
    * Jesus was the taker of life (Judges 11.29, 39)
    *Jesus and his fellow warriors murdered thousands (Judges 1.2, 7).
    * Jesus’ method was C[b]OMPULSION[/b] (Luke 19.27)
    * Jesus is a hater of the physically impaired (Lame, deaf, Blind) (Leviticus (21:16,24)
    * Jesus practiced FORCE and uses evil spirit to torment people (1 Samuel 16:14)
    * Jesus was a WARRIOR (Exodus 15.3, Genesis 32.24)
    * Jesus said to the masses, "Convert or die!" (John 15:6)
    * Jesus is a slave master, preaches slavery; dont blame white europeans blame Jesus (Leviticus 25.44)
    * Jesus swift to shed blood (1Chronicles 13.9,10, Numbers 16.41,45)
    * Jesus preached "Death to the infidels!" (Deuteronomy 13.5,9)
AIRDIG:

CONT'D
    * Jesus declared a holy[b] war[/b] (Crusade) against infidels (Judges 15.16, Exodus 34.13).
    * Jesus constrained people by conquest; (Numbers 31.17,18).
    * Crusaders/terrorists derive their inspiration from Jesus and carry out their despicable atrocities in his name (2 Kings 10.19.30, http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/murderers.htm)
    * Followers & disciples of Jesus respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets (http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/1000years.htm, )
    * Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder (Exodus 34.13, Exodus 22.18)
    * Jesus called upon his servants to fight; (Joshua 10.11)
    * Jesus called upon his servants to LIE (Romans 3.7)
    * Jesus ordered death to the Philistines, Hittite, and Jebusites etc (Deuteronomy 20.11,18)
    * The Bible says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (2 Chronicles 14, Exodus 22.18)
    * Jesus' mission was to conquer the world  and continue with the sword (Matthew 5:17)
    * Jesus claimed that there was but one God (Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29, 1 Chronicles 17:20)
    * Jesus' tomb: EMPTY!  (Yeah! only dead men have tomb)

The same Jesus=Son of god=god who wrestled with Jacob all night & displaced his hip? a man of peace?
Abeg make I hear word & Pls, stop your phony lies!
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by frosbel(m): 12:12am On Apr 16, 2010
AIRDIG:

It's called, paying you back in your own coin. So stop the pretense.
You have two(2) choice
Walk away or if you are "worth his weight in feathers," debunk the assertions.

Whatever your choice be honest. it's better to be "OLAADEGBU the CRITIC" than "OLAADEGBU the LIAR"

Here it is again for your pleasure:


Confusion.


Show us a verse anywhere in the bible , since your quran cannot validate itself, where Muhammad was mentioned. NEVER !

Jesus talked about the coming of false prophets, it seems he know what Satan was up to.
Re: Muhammad Versus Jesus Christ by Ndipe(m): 1:03am On Apr 16, 2010
frosbel:


Confusion.


Show us a verse anywhere  in the bible ,  since your quran cannot validate itself, where Muhammad was mentioned. NEVER !

Jesus talked about the coming of false prophets, it seems he know what Satan was up to.

He knew beforehand, not "It seems"

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