Allah

ALLAH, the first without the beginning and the last without an end.


He created all things in pair, he created heavens and earth within six days without perceiving any sense of fatigue nor tiredness unlike (their god that rest and refresh in six days)

Incomparable Allah unlike (their god that used to be compared with the Lion of tribe of Judah)


Allahu Akbar... Allah is the greatest no one but Allah

Allah is God so if you're asking that who created Allah is the same as asking who created God.

"The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Shaytaan will come to one of you and say, ‘Who created the heaven? Who created the earth?’ He will say, ‘Allaah’” – then he mentioned something similar (to the previous report), and added, “And His Messengers.” [i.e., amantu Billaah wa Rusulihi = I believe in Allaah and His Messengers]"

When the followers of Shaytaan start asking you the above question(s)....

Say to them.... I believe in Allaah and His Messengers.

tayokem:
Allah is God so if you're asking that who created Allah is the same as asking who created God.

God is a general word, Allah is a personal God of the Arabs and Muslims not the God of Hindus nor the Yoruba traditionalists.

Whatever the case is, who created God is still a valid question since everything must have a creator right?

Allah is not Jehovah.

According to Muslims, Allah was not created, he created everything right ? Yes ?

According to Christians, Jehovah was not created, he created everything right ? Yes ?

According to Science, Energy can not be created, but can be converted, right ? Yes ?

Well, these are just relative truth for lower mentality mortals who are controlled by the Gods who do not want them to grown beyond being gullible robots, zombies, and plainly put stupid.

There is nothing that exist that was not created, not even energy, not even Allah, not even Jehovah.

The Question is WHO or WHAT Created Jehovah, Allah and Energy.

These are the questions that took me on a journey of a lifetime.

For those who ernestly seek to know the truth based on compelling Extra-Terrestrial Truth, the Truth coming from the Sources that Created the entire Universes, then we must understand basic principles of common-sense not understanding, but innerstanding and overstanding the Principles of nature.

Religions seek to alienate us from Nature, manufacturing Gods and designing books for man to be governed by, but we have forgotten the most important tools to search for Truth - OUR BRAIN.

Each time you ask Religion who created God, they ask you to suspend your brain functionality and just believe and you do not believe, they threaten you with Jihad, Hell Fire and even certain Death.

Well, I own English Koran, I own a Bible and even the Egyptian Book of the Death where all these religions were fabricated from.

Let us start to burst their lies ladies and gentlemen.

Between Earth and Mars, there used to be a planet there called Maldek, that planet was populated by Reptilian Beings. The Bible calls them, the Dragons (The Chinese will teach us about the Dragons). Mars was populated by Humanoids, our Ancestors. There has always been this war between the Reptillians or Dragos who owned Maldek and Humanoids, the Martians. The Humanoids at Mars nuked Maldek and it becomes what is the Asteroid Belt today. The inhabitants of Maldek, majority of them, Dragons or Reptillians and the Humanoid inhabitants of Mars continue to wage that war and the Humanoids nuked Maldek and we all fled to Earth, right ?

Do you now wonder why we destroy nature on and of Earth ?

Our Original Home is in the sky, Mars. The Bible clearly stated that there was a war in Heaven, where the Dragons and his Angels; Michael and his legion of Angels fought.

Mars was such a Heavenly place. That is the place we have lost and we now recycle these nonsense we call Religions to remember our lost Heaven. Listen folks, the Truth is stranger than fiction. So, I will begin to tell you guys the Truth, as I research deeply and understand them.

Bible said there was War in Heaven and Dragon and his angels were sent to the Earth. This Earth is under the control of the Reptillians and the Humanoid ETs are also very advanced, in fact they defeated the Reptillians and now these Religions called Christianity and Islam and the rest of them are stories and lies mixed with some truth, to make you become so lazy and occupied that you forget nature and how to figure out where you are.

Let me take it a step further;

Before Maldek was nuked, Martians and the rest of the Reptillian explore the Universe and the entire solar system and expanded their dorminance to stay alive. They had to sequence DNA of the primates that were the original inhabitants of planet Earth and introduce their DNA and integrate same with us. They know we can activate those DNA and be like them. Why do you think we are dumped down with all these water poisoning, chemtrails, GMOs etc ?

There is an alliance of these Beings that decided there should be peace and Earth should house every spirit that comes here and when you awaken to where you are, you can decide where you wanna belong. If you want to join the Michael crew or the Reptillian is not just an easy decision.

You must know the nature of your Soul and establish your blood line and know which group you belong. Religion is easy, but you are ignorant of Death, of after life and which planet your Soul came from and where it is supposed to move to, by default at physical death.

We must understand that there is an on-going Extra-terrestrial war and the reptilians, mamalians, the primates and the rest of the ET groups whose DNA are part of our brain and DNA are our Ancestors.

Stop all these nonsense about Allah, Jehovah and Energy.

Everything in this physical universe is created, and Energy is not created in this Universe but it is constantly being pulsated into this realm every other second. Energy is a Creation of the Crew at the backstage of this plane of existence. When you decide to use your brain to fire it from Alpha, Beta, Theta and Gamma States, you will begin to understand that Earth is Alive. It is a Living System that sustains us, and are are merely robots that the Spirits of ETs dwell. And we are the ETs. We are Spirit Beings living in a body that belonged Earth animals, twerked to look manageable enough for us to live in, with its limited 5 senses.

Run away from Religions and embrace Spirituality (Science not yet understood), and Science (Spirituality understood) and ofcourse Technology (Physical-technical proof of the workings of nature's forces). There are many Gods, but they are just advance Spirit Beings at the level we were before we come down here. And when we die, or drop this body, we will know the true extent of our powers. Those who Astral Project, Teleport, who read minds, telekinesis etc know how powerful the mind is.

Stop believing all these nonsense. Use your brains. Develop your brains and read. Stop being stupid friends. We were designed to house conscious energy and the religions are just a decoy to keep you on this prison you call body through the cycle of reincarnation, as energy source of the ET Gods, that Love you...lol

Billyonaire:
Allah is not Jehovah.

According to Muslims, Allah was not created, he created everything right ? Yes ?

According to Christians, Jehovah was not created, he created everything right ? Yes ?

According to Science, Energy can not be created, but can be converted, right ? Yes ?

Well, these are just relative truth for lower mentality mortals who are controlled by the Gods who do not want them to grown beyond being gullible robots, zombies, and plainly put stupid.

There is nothing that exist that was not created, not even energy, not even Allah, not even Jehovah.

The Question is WHO or WHAT Created Jehovah, Allah and Energy.

These are the questions that took me on a journey of a lifetime.

For those who ernestly seek to know the truth based on compelling Extra-Terrestrial Truth, the Truth coming from the Sources that Created the entire Universes, then we must understand basic principles of common-sense not understanding, but innerstanding and overstanding the Principles of nature.

Religions seek to alienate us from Nature, manufacturing Gods and designing books for man to be governed by, but we have forgotten the most important tools to search for Truth - OUR BRAIN.

Each time you ask Religion who created God, they ask you to suspend your brain functionality and just believe and you do not believe, they threaten you with Jihad, Hell Fire and even certain Death.

Well, I own English Koran, I own a Bible and even the Egyptian Book of the Death where all these religions were fabricated from.

Let us start to burst their lies ladies and gentlemen.

Between Earth and Mars, there used to be a planet there called Maldek, that planet was populated by Reptilian Beings. The Bible calls them, the Dragons (The Chinese will teach us about the Dragons). Mars was populated by Humanoids, our Ancestors. There has always been this war between the Reptillians or Dragos who owned Maldek and Humanoids, the Martians. The Humanoids at Mars nuked Maldek and it becomes what is the Asteroid Belt today. The inhabitants of Maldek, majority of them, Dragons or Reptillians and the Humanoid inhabitants of Mars continue to wage that war and the Humanoids nuked Maldek and we all fled to Earth, right ?

Do you now wonder why we destroy nature on and of Earth ?

Our Original Home is in the sky, Mars. The Bible clearly stated that there was a war in Heaven, where the Dragons and his Angels; Michael and his legion of Angels fought.

Mars was such a Heavenly place. That is the place we have lost and we now recycle these nonsense we call Religions to remember our lost Heaven. Listen folks, the Truth is stranger than fiction. So, I will begin to tell you guys the Truth, as I research deeply and understand them.

Bible said there was War in Heaven and Dragon and his angels were sent to the Earth. This Earth is under the control of the Reptillians and the Humanoid ETs are also very advanced, in fact they defeated the Reptillians and now these Religions called Christianity and Islam and the rest of them are stories and lies mixed with some truth, to make you become so lazy and occupied that you forget nature and how to figure out where you are.

Let me take it a step further;

Before Maldek was nuked, Martians and the rest of the Reptillian explore the Universe and the entire solar system and expanded their dorminance to stay alive. They had to sequence DNA of the primates that were the original inhabitants of planet Earth and introduce their DNA and integrate same with us. They know we can activate those DNA and be like them. Why do you think we are dumped down with all these water poisoning, chemtrails, GMOs etc ?

There is an alliance of these Beings that decided there should be peace and Earth should house every spirit that comes here and when you awaken to where you are, you can decide where you wanna belong. If you want to join the Michael crew or the Reptillian is not just an easy decision.

You must know the nature of your Soul and establish your blood line and know which group you belong. Religion is easy, but you are ignorant of Death, of after life and which planet your Soul came from and where it is supposed to move to, by default at physical death.

We must understand that there is an on-going Extra-terrestrial war and the reptilians, mamalians, the primates and the rest of the ET groups whose DNA are part of our brain and DNA are our Ancestors.

Stop all these nonsense about Allah, Jehovah and Energy.

Everything in this physical universe is created, and Energy is not created in this Universe but it is constantly being pulsated into this realm every other second. Energy is a Creation of the Crew at the backstage of this plane of existence. When you decide to use your brain to fire it from Alpha, Beta, Theta and Gamma States, you will begin to understand that Earth is Alive. It is a Living System that sustains us, and are are merely robots that the Spirits of ETs dwell. And we are the ETs. We are Spirit Beings living in a body that belonged Earth animals, twerked to look manageable enough for us to live in, with its limited 5 senses.

Run away from Religions and embrace Spirituality (Science not yet understood), and Science (Spirituality understood) and ofcourse Technology (Physical-technical proof of the workings of nature's forces). There are many Gods, but they are just advance Spirit Beings at the level we were before we come down here. And when we die, or drop this body, we will know the true extent of our powers. Those who Astral Project, Teleport, who read minds, telekinesis etc know how powerful the mind is.

Stop believing all these nonsense. Use your brains. Develop your brains and read. Stop being stupid friends. We were designed to house conscious energy and the religions are just a decoy to keep you on this prison you call body through the cycle of reincarnation, as energy source of the ET Gods, that Love you...lol

Even tho you try to make sense in your pseudo-scientific ish, I will like to know the argument of the first cause, do you believe in a first cause?

Is energy also functioning outside the universe?

as a Muslim u can ask such a question PLS

Allah (SWT) says:

Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,
Allah, the Eternal Refuge
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
(Q112:1-4)

Allah (God) is one, and has no equivalent (there is nothing like him), he doesn’t reproduce, and was never born (i.e no origin)…That the universe and life as we know it came from a source (God) that has always been and will always be is the only reasonable explanation for everything, else, everything would have no meaning at all or would never even exist to begin with!

Stop trying to use logic to explain religion abeg! Yiu are the one who is being illogical not the people who ask “ if everything has a creator then who created the creator “ ? It might seem inherently false to you cause that’s what you feel like believing but if we are going by logic you are the one who is wrong !

tintingz:
It's also irrational and problematic to logic to claim Allah was not created and as well say "there's a creator for everything". It's either you accept the infinite regress chain(Allah having a higher creator) or you accept what created everything is unknown or there's no creator.

Let's agree Allah is the creator and not created, tracing back his existence Allah must have created himself at one point in time(since the writer above said infinitum is irrational and impossible), there is a beginning for his existence but if you insist Allah is infinite then same argument goes below...

We don't know if the universe had a beginning or infinite, or if there are many universe (multiverse), so we can also use same argument of Allah for the universe!

And lastly, there are over thousands of creators in religions, so what makes Allah the one only true creator out of other creators, because a book said so? yes?

Time is a creation, it has a beginning and an end.

There being thousands of concepts of God does not equate to there being thousands of physical entities of God. God is one. If there were more than one, we'd see constant conflicts in the heavens and earth.

Illogical argument for kindergarten pupils.

tintingz:
God is a general word, Allah is a personal God of the Arabs and Muslims not the God of Hindus nor the Yoruba traditionalists.

Whatever the case is, who created God is still a valid question since everything must have a creator right?

yeah , they keep insisting Allah is God instead of rightly saying Allah to s their own God ! Actually Allah is one of many gods !

tintingz:
It's also irrational and problematic to logic to claim Allah was not created and as well say "there's a creator for everything". It's either you accept the infinite regress chain(Allah having a higher creator) or you accept what created everything is unknown or there's no creator.

Let's agree Allah is the creator and not created, tracing back his existence Allah must have created himself at one point in time(since the writer above said infinitum is irrational and impossible), there is a beginning for his existence but if you insist Allah is infinite then same argument goes below...

We don't know if the universe had a beginning or infinite, or if there are many universe (multiverse), so we can also use same argument of Allah for the universe!

And lastly, there are over thousands of creators in religions, so what makes Allah the one only true creator out of other creators, because a book said so? yes?

The initial parts of your argument have been taken care of by the post above.

As for the last part, there is only one creator. If there were many there wouldn't have been uniformity in heaven and earth.

All created beings have a creator. And God was not a created being that's what makes him God.

bahaushe1:


The initial parts of your argument have been taken care of by the post above.

Where?

As for the last part, there is only one creator. If there were many there wouldn't have been uniformity in heaven and earth.

Have you been to heaven before?

You have problem with multiple creators channelling thier energy to create these universe?

mukhtara446:
All created beings have a creator. And God was not a created being that's what makes him God.

What makes God not a created being?

NotComplaining:



Time is a creation, it has a beginning and an end.

Then how did God knows the future, reason if he's outside time?

There being thousands of concepts of God does not equate to there being thousands of physical entities of God. God is one. If there were more than one, we'd see constant conflicts in the heavens and earth.

I'm tired of these flawed argument.

Have you been to heaven before?

Which Allah, the one that told them to Kill jews and Christians?
I will rather suck a Fulanis d**k all my life than be a Muslim

tintingz:
You and your fellows are the ones that want to eat your cake and have it too.

Simple logic is a problem!

You claiming "Everything must have a cause" is an infinite regression itself, a cycle model. If Z is the end then what could force to cause the beginning(A) if not Z? Or does 'A' comes from nothing?

So why are you trying to single out or smuggle out Allah? Is he the only imaginary entity? Is he not part of everything? You once use the analogy of an author and a book and I asked who caused the author, you said that is not relevant, you see your logic and your eating cake having it too?

The OP said ad Infinitum is irrational and impossible yet Allah is infinite, please who is eating his cake and having it too?

You lots should do better, maybe Albaqir should chip in, I think this is the right thread.

Mr. Logic and reasoning, examples were presented for you to understand the absurdity of infinite regress, but you are not willing to pay adequate attention so you may learn.

Anyways, what we have learnt from different academic studies as well as commonsense, about the existence of the universe including life is that everything must have a cause. Everything that is existing in this universe and the universe. What exist outside the universe and not dependent on the universe cannot be placed and analysed with the parameters that operates within the universe, it is very illogical and irrational to do this. So when we say everything must have a cause, the creator is not part of everything! God says : "God is independent of (all) creation." ( Q3:97)

I had told you to keep this your inane cyclic stuff to yourself, I wonder where you got it from. If Z brought about A? Which came first? Z or A? How do you use this to explain the universe and how life came into existence?

By the way, I thought you already know that nothing is indeed something or do you need a reminder from Richard Dawkins?

I know you did not get my Author and book theory, and I did ask you, would you deny that a book has an author because you do not know the author's origin? Answer this and we would know whether you are one with reason or not.

See as tintingz just keep knocking them out!

Pataricatering:
Stop trying to use logic to explain religion abeg! Yiu are the one who is being illogical not the people who ask “ if everything has a creator then who created the creator “ ? It might seem inherently false to you cause that’s what you feel like believing but if we are going by logic you are the one who is wrong !

You can say tintingz is wrong a million times to console yourself, logic will continue to puncture holes and trample on the myth that Islam (and other religions) tend to propose when it comes to creation story.

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If the atheist finds the above too hard to digest as simplified as it is, then let us ask them a few questions

1. Who is their mother

2. How they came to know She’s their mother

businesscitadel:
See as tintingz just keep knocking them out!


You can say tintingz is wrong a million times to console yourself, logic will continue to puncture holes and trample on the myth that Islam (and other religions) tend to propose when it comes to creation story.

Where's the logic in his post? Are you reading with your ears? Someone asked who created God? Is God Created? Even if you tell him the creator of the creator, he will keep repeating "who created that creator" where is the sense in this?

sino:


Mr. Logic and reasoning, examples were presented for you to understand the absurdity of infinite regress, but you are not willing to pay adequate attention so you may learn.

Anyways, what we have learnt from different academic studies as well as commonsense, about the existence of the universe including life is that everything must have a cause. Everything that is existing in this universe and the universe. What exist outside the universe and not dependent on the universe cannot be placed and analysed with the parameters that operates within the universe, it is very illogical and irrational to do this. So when we say everything must have a cause, the creator is not part of everything! God says : "God is independent of (all) creation." ( Q3:97)

This is pleading.

What exist outside the universe cannot interven in this universe and if it does it/he/she has limit himself/herself to this universe, we don't know what's outside the universe yet and we can't imagine what's outside the universe, meaning it's NOTHING to us!

But your God created matter and energy right, where did that come from? Your God knows the future, reason, plan etc are all these not bound and eslave to time? Time only exist in this universe so your God is eslave to this universe. Your perfect God even has the TIME to give divine laws for what he created.

If the creator is not part of everything, then...

* He's Nothing

* Everything doesn't have a creator or a cause e.g Fairies, Olorun, Odin, Brahma, Unicorn, FSM, Allah etc.

I had told you to keep this your inane cyclic stuff to yourself, I wonder where you got it from. If Z brought about A? Which came first? Z or A? How do you use this to explain the universe and how life came into existence?

A-Z is just an example of it, I can use any other form.

The cyclic model is part of physics and cosmological theory.

By the way, I thought you already know that nothing is indeed something or do you need a reminder from Richard Dawkins?

Actually I've watched the full video, Dawkins was not the joke.

Is Allah something or nothing?

I know you did not get my Author and book theory, and I did ask you, would you deny that a book has an author because you do not know the author's origin? Answer this and we would know whether you are one with reason or not.

I responded then that I've no problem with existing of an author(as long as it's proven) the problem you're yet to accept or tell me is, what cause/move this author to exist and write?

Please answer and let move on.

tintingz:
What makes God not a created being?

because anything created can't be worship in Islamic faith. We only worship the creator, The question in the first place is wrong, you will know that, anyone that can asked this type of question didn't know God. Its like you asking a female how long its her reproductive organ as in male, clearly you don't have a clue about female's

Rashduct4luv:


Where's the logic in his post? Are you reading with your ears? Someone asked who created God? Is God Created? Even if you tell him the creator of the creator, he will keep repeating "who created that creator" where is the sense in this?

You probably are blind and reading with your nose if you can not see the full logic blazing in his post!

Rashduct4luv:


Where's the logic in his post? Are you reading with your ears? Someone asked who created God? Is God Created? Even if you tell him the creator of the creator, he will keep repeating "who created that creator" where is the sense in this?

Then why not answer that you do not know or have no idea, that is honesty as its peak instead of filling the gap with Allah that you can not prove exists or did it.

mukhtara446:
because anything created can't be worship in Islamic faith. We only worship the creator, The question in the first place is wrong, you will know that, anyone that can asked this type of question didn't know God.

And you are being asked, how are you not sure that same creator was not created by another entity or a group of entities?

wayne4loan:
Mohammed created Allah

That's wrong, please. It is obviously impossible for Mohammed to create Allah... Why? Because I created him

mukhtara446:
because anything created can't be worship in Islamic faith. We only worship the creator, The question in the first place is wrong, you will know that, anyone that can asked this type of question didn't know God. Its like you asking a female how long its her reproductive organ as in male, clearly you don't have a clue about female's

I've known God from my childhood but you know what, I was believing in imaginary entities.

businesscitadel:
See as tintingz just keep knocking them out!


You can say tintingz is wrong a million times to console yourself, logic will continue to puncture holes and trample on the myth that Islam (and other religions) tend to propose when it comes to creation story.

My brother I tire oo