Where does one even start to address all these? I doubt that you know much about football.

dayokanu:

What trophies did Johann Cryuff win for Holland to be named Europes best for Last century. Same with Eusebio, George Best etc

What trophies did Johann Cryuff win for Holland to be named Europes best for Last century. Same with Eusebio, George Best etc

What kind of question is that?
Cruyff:3 consecutive European Cups (71-73) Ballon D'Or 3 times(71,73,74) Best Player of 1974 World Cup held in your Germany.

I thought that title went to Zinedine Zidane

dayokanu:

Bottom line, He never won anything for Holland, So Messi doesnt need to win anything for Argentina to be termed best

The century that ended in 1999, Zidane wasnt even at his peak then and many ppl even thought Del Piero was better than him at that point.

When Maradona exists?C'mon,DK.
As long as he doesn't equal Maradona on that World Cup win,especially since Maradona almost single-handedly won the world cup,he can't be termed the best.

To an extent,I might agree with you about not winning anything,based on your example.But Cruyff played only one World Cup.Besides,he was by and large the best player in the 70s.Still don't think Messi is anywhere that level.Not to talk of being the best of all time.

Zidane was voted the best European player EVER!!!

dayokanu:

I still think Maradona is the best footballer followed by Zidane, Ronaldo, PELE, Cryuff and Ronaldinho in that order

I am not taking all those Thunder balogun tales by Pele.

Cryuff, No world cup, No Euro cup yet he was the best for last century. CL trophies, Messi has won 2 and on the way to the 3rd, Ballon D'Or and FIFA player he has already won

Gogle European player of the century or lemme help you

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-21431137.html

http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/iffhs-century.html#eupoy

Eastbay:

@DK,
So by your logic,thunder balogun and co didn't play football,abi?
So by Your logic,Bayern has only ONE european title,since they won three European titles during the Thunder Balogun phase 74-76 when even you and I were not born yet.
We cannot discard the past;whether we like it or not.Pele was the biggest in his era.I still think it's a lot easier to play now than then.
As for Messi's titles,
He hasn't been MVP of a World Cup/Copa America.That's another big title we tend to overlook.And for him to be considered än all-time great,he needs to perform on the international stage.Cruyff did.Which is all I've been saying all this while
Cruyff,technically on the pitch was miles ahead of Messi.Ask about the Cruyff turn,this one no be thunder balogun tale.It's on You-Tube.He was so good,a move had to be named after him/he perfected a move.Messi looks good largely in part because he has a midfield of Xavi/Iniesta to create space for him.Not taking anything away from him,by far he's the best in the world right now.But we see him struggle when he plays for Argentina and we wonder how he does it for Barca.
Leave Pele out of this:The nutshell of Pele's statement is that Messi has to make his mark to be considered G.O.A.T.I don't think he's done enough yet to merit that.

Katsumoto:

It is ironic that you can use one poll to support your argument but ignore the same poll which does not supportt your original argument. For the benfit of others, here is the poll for player of the century.

World - Player of the Century

1."Pelé" (Brazil) 1705 (Edson Arantes do Nascimento)
2.Johan Cruijff (Netherlands) 1303
3.Franz Beckenbauer (Germany) 1228
4.Alfredo di Stéfano (Argentina) 1215
5.Diego Armando Maradona (Argentina) 1214
6.Ferenc Puskás (Hungary) 810
7.Michel Platini (France) 722
8.Garrincha (Brazil) 624 (Manoel dos Santos Garrincha)
9.Eusébio (Portugal) 544 (Eusébio Ferreira da Silva)
10.Robert Charlton (England) 508

chelseabmw:

messi will soon be a legend

Messi would be a legend when he learns how to play without Xavi and iniesta.

And show his worth outside Barcelona.

Iyineda:

By the end of his career, Lionel Messi will be in the top 5 of this list. Cristiano Ronaldo would be lucky to make the top 20 list.