johnydon22:
teach me how to have sense with your top notch civility, logical argumentative layouts and not uncouth mesh of insults cooked with poor grammar.

we play too much in this country



I will be fine..

is like u all hold grammar in high esteem here well i dont!! I express myself as it pleases me!! Chew on that!! U dont do my sub!! Or do you? With ur plenty grammar u better teach urself sense!!

johnydon22:
No. they are not. Her father, brother, boy friend have nothing to do with her unstable mental state, leave them out of it.

Lol. Don't mind me, bro. Just pointing out the implication of calling men scum. Insulting her directly won't do a thing. I do that to get at people that irritate me. She's very senseless.

Don't take this too serious, i have seen worse.

Unfair assumption, most likely untrue. I don't support this.

Lol. I know it's probably not true. Insults don't have to be true. They just have to be OFFENSIVE. I was very irritated.

Calm down brother

Last last the universe doesn't even know we are here. it's a ginormous indifferent cosmos

Yeah, I know that much. I just had to remind her that being a feminist doesn't mean one should become a fool that denies INDISPUTABLE FACTS that do not serve their agenda. If any gender is relevant to the Universe, history clearly shows which one it is.

All major wars, all civilizations, all empires, science, art, philosophy. It's been men right from the beginning.

She's very ignorant and unintelligent. A bimbo, like I said earlier.

Tohzara:
Lol. Those women in the west are becoming crazy. They've turned feminism into a bitter campaign against the male gender. Their feminism is full-blown MISANDRY! God help Western men.

Third wave feminsim have been the biggest weapon against feminsim. it has completely blurred the line between feminism and misandry that both are no longer inseparable.

Hahaha. I think women should do same. It'll make it easier to prove rape cases.

One of the implications of this is that Male employers no longer employ female job seekers out of fear of getting their careers ruined. The relationship between men and women have been severed so much that i fear it will get worse.

The worst part is: Third wave feminism rides on the back of women being victims so even when there is no such case, they create one. Just take the women in those videos for example.

These two will still come and chant #MeToo

it has revealed the feminists obsession with victimhood that ironically they mistake as empowerment

Tohzara:
A retãrd like you isn't a good representative of women, so don't even go there. Misandrist piece of shiit.

including ur mother who gave birth to a foolish thing as u!! Now did i say i hate men Dumbest punk ever liveth

Shugavee:
is like u all hold grammar in high esteem here well i dont!! I express myself as it pleases me!! Chew on that!! U dont do my sub!! Or do you? With ur plenty grammar u better teach urself sense!!

Be sincere, you're a product of RAPE.

adepeter2027:

Be sincere, you're a product of RAPE.

sincere,?? As the rapist abi weyti U useless rapist will not hide urselves

Shugavee:
sincere,?? As the rapist abi weyti U useless rapist will not hide urselves

Just a kweshion.

Are you a product of RAPE?

Shugavee:
sincere,?? As the rapist abi weyti U useless rapist will not hide urselves

if he screen grabs this very post, you calling him a rapist, gets your mail from nairaland admins and your personal information from your mail, and sues you for slander, what would be your reaction?

I understand fully well the kind of person you are now.
the coward hiding behind a phone that cant own up to what she posts.

Shugavee:
including ur mother who gave birth to a foolish thing as u!! Now did i say i hate men Dumbest punk ever liveth

My mother doesn't share your filth because she has no relation with baboons.

You dumb thing, you don't hate men? Of course, you don't! You love men like you do Chicken for Christmas.

I'm well aware that clowns like you are walking masses of contradiction. Your double standards are well and truly glaring.

You "love" men only when it's convenient. Outside of your own interest, they're scum to you.

Aren't you the "independent" parasite that was talking about entitlements the other day? Telling women to demand 5k from their boyfriends to make their hair every 2 weeks?

Useless things that don't want to work, but claim to be "independent feminists". You want to deprive men of the benefits of patriarchy, get rid of the disadvantages for YOUR gender, and keep the benefits. And on top of that, will still come to rub your irritating misandry on their faces. What disgusting clowns.

I wonder what a man is expected to gain in a relationship with your kind. Pussy? Aren't there MILLIONS of that?

You'll say a man is not good enough for you because he's broke, but the rich one is good enough ONLY FOR YOU? Because? You're a trophy or what? You're not the only parasite around, and other girls can offer pussy too, so the rich one has no reason to remain faithful to a person that has got only pussy to offer.

You claim to be feminists, but not ready to follow your ideology to its logical conclusion. You still want to depend on men and have them take care of you the same old way, while also opening your cancerous mouth to call them scum and rapists.

I pity the unfortunate fellow that ends up with you.

ThePallidMan:


if he screen grabs this very post, you calling him a rapist, gets your mail from nairaland admins and your personal information from your mail, and sues you for slander, what would be your reaction?

I understand fully well the kind of person you are now.
the coward hiding behind a phone that cant own up to what she posts.

then i sue him 4 slander as well!! Where did the product of rape come from!! So now calling him a rapist is what got into you but not the other way round!! Nonsense!!! Please keep ur evaluation to urself

Tohzara:
My mother doesn't share your filth because she has no relation with baboons.

You dumb thing, you don't hate men? Of course, you don't! You love men like you do Chicken for Christmas.

I'm well aware that clowns like you are walking masses of contradiction. Your double standards are well and truly glaring.

You "love" men only when it's convenient. Outside of your own interest, they're scum to you.

Aren't you the "independent" parasite that was talking about entitlements the other day? Telling women to demand 5k from their boyfriends to make their hair every 2 weeks?

Useless things that don't want to work, but claim to be "independent feminists". You want to deprive men of the benefits of patriarchy, get rid of the disadvantages for YOUR gender, and keep the benefits. And on top of that, will still come to rub your irritating misandry on their faces. What disgusting clowns.

I wonder what a man is expected to gain in a relationship with your kind. Pussy? Aren't there MILLIONS of that?

You'll say a man is not good enough for you because he's broke, but the rich one is good enough ONLY FOR YOU? Because? You're a trophy or what? You're not the only parasite around, and other girls can offer pussy too, so the rich one has no reason to remain faithful to a person that has got only pussy to offer.

You claim to be feminists, but not ready to follow your ideology to its logical conclusion. You still want to depend on men and have them take care of you the same old way, while also opening your cancerous mouth to call them scum and rapists.

I pity the unfortunate fellow that ends up with you.

so ur probably thinking i will read this nonesense!! Guess again!!

adepeter2027:

Just a kweshion.

Are you a product of RAPE?

i wish i care i really do!!

johnydon22:
Third wave feminsim have been the biggest weapon against feminsim. it has completely blurred the line between feminism and misandry that both are no longer inseparable.



One of the implications of this is that Male employers no longer employ female job seekers out of fear of getting their careers ruined. The relationship between men and women have been severed so much that i fear it will get worse.

The worst part is: Third wave feminism rides on the back of women being victims so even when there is no such case, they create one. Just take the women in those videos for example.

These two will still come and chant #MeToo

it has revealed the feminists obsession with victimhood that ironically they mistake as empowerment

There's a clear difference between feminism and misandry. The boundry is pretty clear. The problem is that many of them claiming to be feminists are either misandrists or disgusting hypocrites that engage in Orwellian Doublethink.

Feminism is a noble movement. This clowns only bastardize it for their own benefit.

That's what usually happens to all human right movements when people become too engrossed in them. They make an entirely new belief system out of it, almost like a religion. So they view EVERY DAMN THING through that prism, and they never see anything else.

Take the gay rights movement as an example. Many gay rights activists have gone from demanding that people recognize the rights of others to engage in homosexuality to telling people how they should feel about it.

Man X: I hate homosexuality. Very disgusting. But I recognize people's right to do whatever they want with their sex lives.

Gay Rights Activist: Why should you hate it, you intolerant piece of shiit?!

Shugavee:
so ur probably thinking i will read this nonesense!! Guess again!!

I actually took my time to type that so others could see how incredibly stupid you are. I never expected you to comprehend the depths of your retardation and cretinism.

Tohzara:
I actually took my time to type that so others could see how incredibly stupid you are. I never expected you to comprehenkd the depths of your retardation and cretinism.

hahaha like it changes anything in real life!! Keep it up!! Its nice u took so much time to give people an evaluation abt me!! Kudos nice job!!!

So it started from rape victims!! To feminist n not feminist!!! N oh pease i dont hate men but they are still scums n most of them are pervert!! Bitter pill!! I hv a man n he does all he does at free will doesnt make me less feminist!!beyonce n chiamanda are married women, n yes i am a graduate n i hv a paying job!! With or without my boo!! Am good!! So how do i hate men!!! So u were one of the he_cows ranting on that thread!!! Never new ur poverty has affected ur brain!!!

And moreover rape enabling is disgusting and we are all well against that, blaming the victim also is a disgusting act that we all condemn but this mustn't be mistaken with asking the right questions in a bid to scrutinize a case.

And what are these so called right questions you want to ask?

100% agreed
Equal punishment. I agree again
We agree again

All right

johnydon22:

Oh they are believed in most cases, we get to see some of these cases of conviction and even jungle justice on rapist almost daily on Nairaland front page.

Who are they?

No you are not. Simply walk outside, grab any random man and shout he raped you and watch him get mobbed or even lynched to death. People are more likely to believe your story and sympathize with you.

That is just a little demonstration to test the validity of this claim.

Wrong again. Is it not this same Nigeria that we see rapists and alleged rapists almost getting lynched to death, let us not treat this like a one faced knife. It is not.

They are human beings, men and women
I know of people being mobbed for kidnapping. Stealing, didn't know about rape,.

Sexual violence is a heinous thing and we must always condemn perpetrators or enablers. Women who label innocent men rapists just because they want to win a disagreement are violent, vile human beings too & we must condemn them too.

No issues with this, agreed

Wrong conception of an argument stemming from hasty conclusion. The post in no way condemns or blames all women, an implication of an action is not condemnation.
from the post
This will be very unfortunate as it will be unfair to actual rape victims.
The post highlighted possible implications of using rape accusations as a weapon to get back at someone
Non sequitor stemming from your own misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the argument
Oh No we don't. There is no right that i have that you don't in the constitution
Again another gross misrepresentation and understanding: highlighting implications of a line of action is not a threat.
If humanity continues making nuclear weapons a time will come when we will destroy civilization. This is not a threat.
Learn the difference between a threat and highlight of possible consequence
You have no idea what it means to threaten someone

Threat
*a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done*

That statement was a threat to women, saying that just because some women did something wrong, there will be a point all of you will be punished by us men, whereby we will disbelieve what you have to say concerning rape,
Ridiculous and highhanded,
There is absolutely no reason for that statement or way of thinking, there is no reason for that to even become so called "implications of a line of action" , absolutely no reason,

What will make it to even become a "possible consequence"? It, as a possible consequence is not going to fall out from the sky, it's people who will think that's a right thing to do that will start it, and that's what I'm against, there is no reason to even think that,

Just because some women have lost their minds,does not mean that you should lump all women together and disbelieve everyone, that shouldn't even be thought of as a so-called possible consequence,

If all women said because some men rape women, it'll get to a point that all women will threat men as rapists,
And with whatever punishments those women deem right,
You all will be quick to point out "it's not all men", "remember your father too, is he a rapist?" and all that,
Which is what I said, there is no reason for that to even be thought of as an implication,

And i said men feel special because you think you can take laws into your own hands and disregard all women speaking out about rape because of a few bad eggs. No care to even make an effort to take the case to the law court, feeling so big to as to say we will disbelieve all women,

So I don't really know where that constitution talk came in from?

ThePallidMan:


shugavee and Proudgorgeousga please stop being ignorant. sperm stays in the vagina for 3 days. if raped, go to the hospital and get your region examined for tear and sperm and have it analysed. call the police and inform them of the accused rapist. he ejaculates in a container and Its analysed. if its a match. hes taken to court. the sperm or scratch he left on you is evidence. stop acting so ignorant

What!!!!!!

"Tear and Sperm"? what does that do exactly? all it proves is that he had sex with you, nothing more!!!

Tear does happen during normal sex, Tear may not happen during rape

The only way this can "prove" (to a reasonable extent) rape is if he denied and kept denying having sex with you in the first place but most rape cases usually involves the accused claiming the sex was consensual while the accuser says its not

hopefulLandlord:


What!!!!!!

"Tear and Sperm"? what does that do exactly? all it proves is that he had sex with you, nothing more!!!

Tear does happen during normal sex, Tear may not happen during rape

The only way this can "prove" (to a reasonable extent) rape is if he denied and kept denying having sex with you in the first place but most rape cases usually involves the accused claiming the sex was consensual while the accuser says its not

This doesn't still proffer a solution to the problem.

How do we solve this?

Condemn the accused by default?

johnydon22:

This doesn't still proffer a solution to the problem.
How do we solve this?
Condemn the accused by default?

are accused usually condemned by default in Nigeria? forgive my ignorance

hopefulLandlord:

are accused usually condemned by default in Nigeria? forgive my ignorance

This answer is starkly unreconcilable with the question. The question is, how do we solve this?

And highlighted condemning the accused by default as an option.

Asking me if the accused are usually condemned by default in Nigeria is non sequitor to my question and unfortunately does not follow.

So I ask again.

How do we solve this?

Rapists must be punished, we must also be careful not to punish the innocent.

So his do we solve this?

johnydon22:


This answer is starkly unreconcilable with the question. The question is, how do we solve this?

And highlighted condemning the accused by default as an option.

Asking me if the accused are usually condemned by default in Nigeria is non sequitor to my question and unfortunately does not follow.

So I ask again.

How do we solve this?

Rapists must be punished, we must also be careful not to punish the innocent.

So his do we solve this?

in the movie Law Abiding Citizen, Jamie fox's character told Gerrard Butler's character Its not what you know, its what you can prove in court

I think rape is a very sensitive issue that's very hard to prove in court provided both the accused and the plaintiff have the same level of legal backing

The stigma attached to being raped is pretty bad in a place like Nigeria. Most men don't want to date let alone marry a girl who's accused a man of rape before, that he was eventually found guilty is inconsequential, I'll avoid such girls too unless I'm very sure such a girl was raped for real and a court ruling won't cut it for me I'm afraid since my faith in our justice system is pretty low

Most rape usually involve someone the victim trusts. The idea of rape the movies show us of a woman walking in a dark alley and getting jumped by a sunglass wearing meth addicts brandishing weapons and ordering the girl to cooperate or be killed are very very rare
Most rape cases involve a friend, family members, family friends, boyfriend, colleagues etc which hands all the disadvantages to the victim as her emotional side may take over cuz she might actually be trying to protect the suspect
These are some of the reasons rape victims usually just get on with their lives like nothing happened and hope to get over it with time

Back to your question, What's the solution? TBH its a very difficult question to give a straight answer to but I'd recommend women who are seeing signs that a man could possibly force them and they can't avoid contact with such a man should hit the sound recorder on their phone whenever they're with such "men" and try to get as much evidence as they can cuz rape is not an easy thing to prove

hopefulLandlord:


in the movie Law Abiding Citizen, Jamie fox's character told Gerrard Butler's character Its not what you know, its what you can prove in court

I think rape is a very sensitive issue that's very hard to prove in court provided both the accused and the plaintiff have the same level of legal backing

The stigma attached to being raped is pretty bad in a place like Nigeria. Most men don't want to date let alone marry a girl who's accused a man of rape before, that he was eventually found guilty is inconsequential, I'll avoid such girls too unless I'm very sure such a girl was raped for real and a court ruling won't cut it for me I'm afraid since my faith in our justice system is pretty low

Most rape usually involve someone the victim trusts. The idea of rape the movies show us of a woman walking in a dark alley and getting jumped by a sunglass wearing meth addicts brandishing weapons and ordering the girl to cooperate or be killed are very very rare
Most rape cases involve a friend, family members, family friends, boyfriend, colleagues etc which hands all the disadvantages to the victim as her emotional side may take over cuz she might actually be trying to protect the suspect
These are some of the reasons rape victims usually just get on with their lives like nothing happened and hope to get over it with time

Back to your question, What's the solution? TBH its a very difficult question to give a straight answer to but I'd recommend women who are seeing signs that a man could possibly force them and they can't avoid contact with such a woman should hit the sound recorder on their phone whenever they're with such "men" and try to get as much evidence as they can cuz rape is not an easy thing to prove

And the end of the day, after all
the sermon you have no idea what the solution is..

johnydon22:

And the end of the day, after all the sermon you have no idea what the solution is..

seriously I don't ;P

hopefulLandlord:

seriously I don't ;P

Asin eeehn...

And you were just busy writing an epistle, going round and round

God catch you naa...

hopefulLandlord:

seriously I don't ;P

Have a look


https://m.facebook.com/citysilchar/photos/a.634346886610391.1073741828.634341783277568/1300924903285916/?type=3

johnydon22:


Have a look


https://m.facebook.com/citysilchar/photos/a.634346886610391.1073741828.634341783277568/1300924903285916/?type=3

That's sad, I think its a shift in pendulum. India is notorious for rapists getting away with it that its a common knowledge as rape is difficult to prove and some cultures in India virtually endorses rape, this made people take the law into their own hands and this is the result

A woman is actually raped, she is castigated. A woman is not actually raped she is insulted too. Most of these stupid boys need to have children and and when they complain of rape, ask them are you sure? Group of idiots. Some of you here, ur sisters have being raped but they jux act like things are normal and so u think all girls use rape as excuse hilarious.

Shugavee:
I know ur reason 4 ur article but hv u ever put in consideration if they never lied? Hv u?? No!! Case closed!!

Quick question: did you read the post at all or are you always quick to display lunacy?

Shugavee:
I know ur reason 4 ur article but hv u ever put in consideration if they never lied? Hv u?? No!! Case closed!!

This nonsense belongs in the

Shugavee:
I know ur reason 4 ur article but hv u ever put in consideration if they never lied? Hv u?? No!! Case closed!!

u dont say