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Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by ProYouAdminsUK: 3:55pm On Feb 07, 2018
You cannot blame our black leaders and we blacks are not inherently greedy as you wrongly stated. White globalist nations are all in our business and choosing corrupt leaders for us.
When Africa gets patriotic leaders such as Sankara or even the likes of Mugabe and Jammeh they are forcefully removed by the white nations and their local agents.
Gentle034:

My brother, the blame game even tire me since 1900 fa, every time Europe, American China? Haba!! All these countries are the real parasite that can't do without us, but cos of the greed inherent in The black man they left that for a couple of dollar bills, they changed our economic system to Foreign standard forgetting our own values all for just a couple of dollar bills? It's quite shameful, I know the Europeans are crooked, but our black leaders are the biggest crook and they are our problem.

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Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by Sapiosexuality(m): 4:02pm On Feb 07, 2018
EnkayDezign4:


I do agree with you regarding the wests' ill intentions during colonialism, but you cannot deny the fact that Nigeria is what it is today largely due to it's rich mix of people, and culture.

I guess my point is that, with leadership in the right hands and the right type of orientation, one that is devoid of foreign ideologies that imprison our collective consciousness, and makes us hate each other. This country will reach even greater heights.
By 'Nigeria is what it is today largely due to its rich mix of people and culture' what exactly do you mean?
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:10pm On Feb 07, 2018
ProYouAdminsUK:
Nigerians are generally not aware of the conspiracy against them, hence do not realise our news media are controlled by our enemies who are working to destroy us.
Since white nations are 95% responsible for our failure (incidentally they are also failing ) I shall continue to blame them until they stop.
who your blame Epp?
hahahahahaha
have you ever seen another team stop scoring just because you said so?
You better find something productive doing to change the scores.
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:22pm On Feb 07, 2018
Gentle034:
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World market price?
Yes
Who are the determinants of the price?
Did you not take economics in school
Supply and demand determines price
The same price they buy all over the world
You cannot determine price yourself
Only market can
How com they didn't use their people when they needed the human resources to build their industrial base? Why didn't they give their people the works in their farms?
They saw dumb ppl to do it for less cost

How
how much is oil all over the world abi do they pay you less for it


Do they not pay world market price for whatever they get from you
Abi you expect them to add value when their own ppl need jobs?
We where not, we were very hard working, that was why slave trade boomed in Africa than any other continent.
Very lazy
They built ships and guns and mirrors
You were still running around naked
So they thought you were monkeys so they enslaved you

Every one is greedy even African . Africans are just lazy waiting for mamma to fall from heaven
These System was developed by who?
Nobody
It just is
Supply and demand is a natural law
We had a well built System, our educational system was one of the best, where we talk about the Uni in Tumbukutu, Egypt was also another country that had a sound system and it was on record that civilization started from there. African economic System was centered around communal belongings.
And yet look where it got you, failure
CommunalIsm doesn't work
Ppl natural selfishness will always win
That is why some kings captured other tribes and sold as slaves to collect mirror and salt
Europeans had individual pattern as their predominant system. ( I recommend you read "wretched of the earth. By Franz Fanon)
All men are born individual
It is lazy ppl that created communalism so that they can do less work and get the magas to do more

There are only two systems of economy, capitalism and socialism (which one is foreign, which one is African)

Communalism, the European devise all these economic system in other to just keep siphoning africa's resources. Which African reps was present at the Berlin Conference where African territory was shared among Erupeans?
Have you ever seen a lazy coward sharing with the hunters or the farmers
They conquered us because we refused to defend ourselves because we were forming commune instead of dealing with real world that's out to get you
Animals adapt or die
We refused to adapt

What are our values besides socialism and capitalism?
The change in the world order brought about the new phase of followism. And the hunger wave brought that into foresight. Africa was never liked this, and we that read history back then in School knows that better, that's why they are trying to erase history from our curriculum they don't want us to know how in-human and greedy the Europeans are.
They are greedy and human agreed
But we are greedy and lazy
Laziness is our problem
See today ppl are being killed in their farms and are still afraid to defend themselves and their families
Nature has away of getting rid of lazy creatures
[quote]
what about the followers that vote for rice and useless civil servants
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by Gentle034(m): 8:01am On Feb 09, 2018
MIKOLOWISKA:

World market price?
Yes
Who are the determinants of the price?
Did you not take economics in school
Supply and demand determines price
The same price they buy all over the world
You cannot determine price yourself
Only market can
How com they didn't use their people when they needed the human resources to build their industrial base? Why didn't they give their people the works in their farms?
They saw dumb ppl to do it for less cost

Howhow much is oil all over the world abi do they pay you less for it


Do they not pay world market price for whatever they get from you
Abi you expect them to add value when their own ppl need jobs?
We where not, we were very hard working, that was why slave trade boomed in Africa than any other continent.
Very lazy
They built ships and guns and mirrors
You were still running around naked
So they thought you were monkeys so they enslaved you

Every one is greedy even African . Africans are just lazy waiting for mamma to fall from heaven
These System was developed by who?
Nobody
It just is
Supply and demand is a natural law
We had a well built System, our educational system was one of the best, where we talk about the Uni in Tumbukutu, Egypt was also another country that had a sound system and it was on record that civilization started from there. African economic System was centered around communal belongings.
And yet look where it got you, failure
CommunalIsm doesn't work
Ppl natural selfishness will always win
That is why some kings captured other tribes and sold as slaves to collect mirror and salt
Europeans had individual pattern as their predominant system. ( I recommend you read "wretched of the earth. By Franz Fanon)

All men are born individual
It is lazy ppl that created communalism so that they can do less work and get the magas to do more

There are only two systems of economy, capitalism and socialism (which one is foreign, which one is African)

Communalism, the European devise all these economic system in other to just keep siphoning africa's resources. Which African reps was present at the Berlin Conference where African territory was shared among Erupeans?
Have you ever seen a lazy coward sharing with the hunters or the farmers
They conquered us because we refused to defend ourselves because we were forming commune instead of dealing with real world that's out to get you
Animals adapt or die
We refused to adapt

What are our values besides socialism and capitalism?
The change in the world order brought about the new phase of followism. And the hunger wave brought that into foresight. Africa was never liked this, and we that read history back then in School knows that better, that's why they are trying to erase history from our curriculum they don't want us to know how in-human and greedy the Europeans are.
They are greedy and human agreed
But we are greedy and lazy
Laziness is our problem
See today ppl are being killed in their farms and are still afraid to defend themselves and their families
Nature has away of getting rid of lazy creatures

what about the followers that vote for rice and useless civil servants
Go back and read ur history book. The so called demand and Supply techniques dosen't work in all scenario. Who are the determinant of the demands? And that same economics talk about the idea of higher demands and higher price. In other words if the demand is high the price would be increased. The demand for our natural resources is high but the price is heavily controlled by the white Bourgeois. Africa is in Chain. A very long one that started since the invasion of Europeans.
Digest this picture quote below and lemme know what you think

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Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by MIKOLOWISKA: 8:15pm On Feb 09, 2018
Gentle034:

Go back and read ur history book. The so called demand and Supply techniques dosen't work in all scenario.



i double dare you ,triple,fourple dare you to give me example of where demand and supply fails,just one
if you cannot then there is no need to debate since you've made up your mind blindly


Who are the determinant of the demands?

market

And that same economics talk about the idea of higher demands and higher price. In other words if the demand is high the price would be increased.
no
it says if demend is higher THAN SUPPLY(you think you're smart by leaving SUPPLY out of the equation(only lazy ppl forget about supply)


The demand for our natural resources is high but the price is heavily controlled by the white Bourgeois.

how many times will i say it
it is the market,the market,the market(demand and supply or you don't know what a market is,buyer and seller)

Africa is in Chain.

yes
chain of laziness

A very long one that started since the invasion of Europeans.




Digest this picture quote below and lemme know what you think
same thing i've been saying
they supplied you an education that is better(clothes cars phones salt mirror)
and you demanded it
now you are ""better educated abi""
why are you not supplying your own version of education(laziness,do nothing but blame white man for all your problems), and see who will demand it in marketplace of ideas
instead you're here consoling yourself instead of getting out and competing
fortunately nature gets rid of the lazy


i'm still waiting for your example of failure of free market system
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by knowledgeable: 9:55pm On Feb 09, 2018
EnkayDezign4:


http://sunnewsonline.com/the-conspiracy-against-nigeria/

@myndd44 @lalasticlala @seun....mods help us with this discussion please.

Sure, there is external conspiracy, but also internal evilness.

Example; how can you balance the external conspiracies vs internal evilness whereby Yorubas have conived with hausa/fulani to keep presidency, sea port, international airport etc in their respective regions(thinking, it's smart politics) therefore stifled the overall development of the country??.
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by Gentle034(m): 8:25am On Feb 10, 2018
MIKOLOWISKA:


i double dare you ,triple,fourple dare you to give me example of where demand and supply fails,just one
if you cannot then there is no need to debate since you've made up your mind blindly



market


no
it says if demend is higher THAN SUPPLY(you think you're smart by leaving SUPPLY out of the equation(only lazy ppl forget about supply)




how many times will i say it
it is the market,the market,the market(demand and supply or you don't know what a market is,buyer and seller)



yes
chain of laziness





same thing i've been saying
they supplied you an education that is better(clothes cars phones salt mirror)
and you demanded it
now you are ""better educated abi""
why are you not supplying your own version of education(laziness,do nothing but blame white man for all your problems), and see who will demand it in marketplace of ideas
instead you're here consoling yourself instead of getting out and competing
fortunately nature gets rid of the lazy


i'm still waiting for your example of failure of free market system
À hypothetical example would the case of fuel increase during festivity period within Nigeria. It's a very obvious that during this period transportation activities would be on d high side, why would dere b Scarcity when there's high need for fuel? Why would d price increase cos of high demand and the quantity of supply? if truly we operate a free market economy? Lemme tell you a simple logic, free market economy is only effective in most third world economy because of their dependence on the Global south. You talked about dem Giving us education and civilization, when actually we brought civilization to dis earth. If u r opportune to read How Europe underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney (whom d Europeans assassinated), or Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fanon who did most of his study in Europe u would understand better the plight of Africa and Africans. Mind you am not blaming the Europeans for our under development? All am saying is Dat they are the cause of it, cos they started what they couldn't finish. And most states (Country) these imperialist Europeans Created were just to satisfy their home economy. For instance in the Case of Nigeria the British Government paid the royal Niger company a certain amount of pounds just to take over the territory. U think the money was just for the fun of it?
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by Kirgyakos(m): 10:28am On Feb 10, 2018
AZeD1:
This has to be a contender for the worst post of the year.
guy calm dwn

Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by MIKOLOWISKA: 4:58pm On Feb 10, 2018
Gentle034:

À hypothetical example would the case of fuel increase during festivity period within Nigeria. It's a very obvious that during this period transportation activities would be on d high side, why would dere b Scarcity when there's high need for fuel?
Like I've been saying but you seem not to understand or pretend not to
Holidays=demand higher than supply
You're consuming 30 million litres daily
Suddenly you consume 40 million ppl will need to work extra un provide that 40(truck drivers, petrol attendants, fuel station owners)
You will be charged higher
That 10 million extra will raise price (scarcity)

Why would d price increase cos of high demand and the quantity of supply? if truly we operate a free market economy?

Because the demand is higher than supply
And we are not running a free market cos govt keeps interfering

In free market you would buy that extra 10 million for Christmas period and hammer while others are hoarding
Price will be forced down cos they will not want to carry last cos everybody will buy from you
Lemme tell you a simple logic, free market economy is only effective in most third world economy because of their dependence on the Global south
There is very little free market in third world
They all lean socialist waiting for govt to do everything cos govt won't give them license

. You talked about dem Giving us education and civilization, when actually we brought civilization to dis earth.
Theytook the education and beat you over the head with it
The Victor gets to rewrite history
All this consoling yourself doesn't produce iPhone or aeroplane
Get over yourself and move on

If u r opportune to read How Europe underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney (whom d Europeans assassinated), or Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fanon who did most of his study in Europe u would understand better the plight of Africa and Africans.
1.are they supposed to develop Africa
Does arsenal develop Chelsea
Or Barcelona develop real madrid

2 those books are propaganda tools sprdad always pseudo intellectuals to blame Whitman for all their problems instead of fixing them

Mind you am not blaming the Europeans for our under development? All am saying is Dat they are the cause of it, cos they started what they couldn't finish.
You just blamed them
What stops you from finishing it

And most states (Country) these imperialist Europeans Created were just to satisfy their home economy.
Whose economy are they supposed to satisfy
When you go to work, which family do you take care of, yours or another man's?

For instance in the Case of Nigeria the British Government paid the royal Niger company a certain amount of pounds just to take over the territory. U think the money was just for the fun of it?
Why don't you pay your own amount of sounds to dangote to fix Nigeria? Or pastors since they seem to be getting it right? Instead you give your money to hoodlums and thugs

Whose fault is that. Is that also white man fault

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Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by Gentle034(m): 9:07pm On Feb 14, 2018
MIKOLOWISKA:

Like I've been saying but you seem not to understand or pretend not to
Holidays=demand higher than supply
You're consuming 30 million litres daily
Suddenly you consume 40 million ppl will need to work extra un provide that 40(truck drivers, petrol attendants, fuel station owners)
You will be charged higher
That 10 million extra will raise price (scarcity)



Because the demand is higher than supply
And we are not running a free market cos govt keeps interfering

In free market you would buy that extra 10 million for Christmas period and hammer while others are hoarding
Price will be forced down cos they will not want to carry last cos everybody will buy from you

There is very little free market in third world
They all lean socialist waiting for govt to do everything cos govt won't give them license


Theytook the education and beat you over the head with it
The Victor gets to rewrite history
All this consoling yourself doesn't produce iPhone or aeroplane
Get over yourself and move on


1.are they supposed to develop Africa
Does arsenal develop Chelsea
Or Barcelona develop real madrid

2 those books are propaganda tools sprdad always pseudo intellectuals to blame Whitman for all their problems instead of fixing them


You just blamed them
What stops you from finishing it


Whose economy are they supposed to satisfy
When you go to work, which family do you take care of, yours or another man's?


Why don't you pay your own amount of sounds to dangote to fix Nigeria? Or pastors since they seem to be getting it right? Instead you give your money to hoodlums and thugs

Whose fault is that. Is that also white man fault
In most advance countries or systems where their government works, festive periods would see a mass reduction in prices of major commodity. Why is Dat so over dere? Is it cos d people demands reduces during this period,
Den about development, u can't force people to develop, people develop at their own pace and time. Just like you taking a horse to the river and not been able to feed it waters.
The European colonialiste, brought a system alien to Africa, and this system is meant to keep Africa in perpetual dependence. U think b4 Mango park discovered River Niger? Those people living around the riveraine area, what were they doing to allow a foreigner from far away Europe came to name a property on their soil?
Read about Adams smith invisible hand in economy, there you would understand the power of government intervention in d economy. And for the records government intervenes in it's economy world over.
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by Cromagnon: 7:43pm On Feb 17, 2018
Gentle034:

In most advance countries or systems where their government works, festive periods would see a mass reduction in prices of major commodity. Why is Dat so over dere? demand and supply
We can't afford chicken for 11 months
But demand chicken for only 1 month
Farm cannot wasily ramp up without additional costs(chicks feed transport etc)
Same for evry other thing
Passed on to consumers
Is it cos d people demands reduces during this period,
Den about development, u can't force people to develop, people develop at their own pace and time. Just like you taking a horse to the river and not been able to feed it waters.i know we like the suffering so why are you reiterating
The European colonialiste, brought a system alien to Africa, and this system is meant to keep Africa in perpetual dependence. how
List 3 things they're doing to keep us down that is not our fault [/b]U think b4 Mango park discovered River Niger? Those people living around the riveraine area, what were they doing to allow a foreigner from far away Europe came to name a property on their soil? [b] nothing that's why they were slaves they did nothing

Read about Adams smith invisible hand in economy, there you would understand the power of government intervention in d economy.[b] who is govt
You or oyinbo
Is buhari oyinbo
Azikiwe nko
What of murtala
Which of them is csucasian [/b]And for the records government intervenes in it's economy world over.
yes and it always messes everything up
Re: The Conspiracy Against Nigeria by omohayek: 9:32pm On Feb 17, 2018
What a lot of rubbish the OP's post is! What is Nigeria to be worth anybody "conspiring" against, and why is it that so many other countries are better able to cope with similar "conspiracies" against them?

AZeD1 is absolutely right: this conspiracy drivel is the first and last resort of stupid and intellectually lazy people who prefer to seek out scapegoats for their problems rather than looking hard in the mirror and examining their own poor choices. Even if one agrees that there are biases in western media, nobody is forced to read any of them, and it isn't as if there is a shortage of non-western media sources to consult if one truly distrusts "the west" (which in any case is not a monolithic entity - only a fool would think "Fox News" and "The Guardian" or "The New York Times" have many biases in common).

Conspiracy theories are nothing but the opium of idi.ots who want to shift the blame for their own failures onto others.

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