adepeter2027:
did they claim to be perfect designer or God?
this furthers attest that God isn't a perfect designer.

This is a deist thread though, let's not drag the mythical Abrahamic god into this

Adepeter2027 ask yourself this question and assess your level of logical reasoning.

Why is it that everything discovered by man which existed along with the universe has been beneficial to man despite also having some bad sides to them and I mean EVERYTHING!

Is it by chance that all these things have worked for man too and not always against man? What are the odds that something that accidentally and randomly came to exist could be beneficial every single time to man?

wouldn't you say it's like the popular adage that says you cannot make an omelette without breaking a few eggs?

Nygma:
The processes in life are more than enough examples

How different from this process would it have to be to be regarded as a mistake?

Deepsight NPcomplete, you guys are deists, right?

I now understand why hopefulLandlord dodges some mentions

adepeter2027:
I now understand why hopefulLandlord dodges some mentions

Yes you do and I am sure it's because he lacks a bona-fide jot of intelligence to engage me and he knows it. You seem to flow in that direction as well.

hopefulLandlord:


How different from this process would it have to be to be regarded as a mistake?

What's your religious belief?

hopefulLandlord:


so you're a deist that thinks the creator designed a perfect universe only for other beings to cause natural disaster?

Correct

Nygma:
Correct

Tell me how it happened, I want to learn

Nygma:
What's your religious belief?

I'm an atheist

another double post!

hopefulLandlord:


Tell me how it happened, I want to learn

More like you want to mock in a subtle manner. You are never out to learn but to deride. Your modus operandi is pretty well common knowledge.

Nygma:

Lemme give your an example
Your phone was made in a factory and it should be perfect right?
But over sometime it begins to develop faults such reduced battery capacity,at times the screen may get scratched. That is how the universe is too

so the universe has many gods? you know given the fact that the phone you see today isn't how it has always been there are many different designers who made different versions

danvon:
so the universe has many gods? you know given the fact that the phone you see today isn't how it has always been there are many different designers who made different versions

No,I just used the phone as a simple example

hopefulLandlord:

Tell me how it happened, I want to learn

I think you already know

Nygma:
I think you already know

Well, I don't! I've never heard a deist make that claim

butterflyl1on:


If you like grow weaker. The multiverse HYPOTHESIS is simply a HYPOTHESIS. It is no scientific fact. It is science fiction as it CANNOT AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BE PROVEN.

let that sink in.

How many theories about the universe are FACTS?!

hopefulLandlord:

Well, I don't! I've never heard a deist make that claim

You have never heard of pollution from industries,soot,global warming ?

Nygma:

You have never heard of pollution from industries,soot,global warming ?

you're saying the earth was perfect and the earthquakes, Tornadoes, cyclones, tsunami, act of god etc were caused by man?

tintingz:
How many theories about the universe are FACTS?!

None actually (which is funny actually for people who wish to argue the origins of the universe using the big Bang Theory)

However, scientifically speaking, the Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological description of the origin and development of the Universe as our observable space.

So if the there is yet no scientific fact regarding the origin of our observable universe, how then can anyone postulate one about an impossible to observe multiverse?

Before I forget, the only thing the big Bang successfully shows is that our universe did in fact have a beginning.

hopefulLandlord:

you're saying the earth was perfect and the earthquakes, Tornadoes, cyclones, tsunami, act of god etc were caused by man?

Yes,they were no recorded earthquakes/tsunamis during the ancient days.These all started as a result of tampering with nature by man

Nygma:

Yes,they were no recorded earthquakes/tsunamis during the ancient days.These all started as a result of tampering with nature by man

Tell me more about this "Ancient days" and is man also responsible for the tectonic activities on Mars Venus and Jupiter?

hopefulLandlord:
Deepsight NPcomplete, you guys are deists, right?

Yeah I am

hopefulLandlord:


Tell me more about this "Ancient days" and is man also responsible for the tectonic activities on Mars Venus and Jupiter?

Counter question
Please present evidence of your so called tectonic activities

butterflyl1on:


None actually (which is funny actually for people who wish to argue the origins of the universe using the big Bang Theory)

However, scientifically speaking, the Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological description of the origin and development of the Universe as our observable space.

So if the there is yet no scientific fact regarding the origin of our observable universe, how then can anyone postulate one about an impossible to observe multiverse?

Good, now use the emboldened part for God.

Before I forget, the only thing the big Bang successfully shows is that our universe did in fact have a beginning.

is this a fact?

Mods please move this to FP to raise awareness to free mankind from the prison called religion

Nygma:

Counter question
Please present evidence of your so called tectonic activities

with all pleasure

Quake_(natural phenomenon)

the references are below the page

Nygma:

No,I just used the phone as a simple example

Okay

urahara:
What are your reasons for believing in god?

I won't rationalize it and say I have an air-tight proof of the existence of God. The best answer to this is that I can't bring myself not to believe in God no matter how hard I try. This is why I understand the position of many theists here. The only place I disagree with them is the nature of that god and whether or not their perceived version of God must be the true one. I always disagree with absolutists.
And I vehemently disagree with them when they try to sell their own beliefs as the right and only way things should be.

The God I believe in does not care what u believe in. He doesn't even care if u believe in Him or not from the evidence I can see so far.

author=tintingz post=64867568]Good, now use the emboldened part for God

.

We are talking about science and not God. Besides, science cannot observe God, (a spirit essence). Remember that the multiverse is a hypothesis about other probable existing universes like ours. Our universe is physically observable for science but God isn't.

is this a fact?

So says the theory.

NPComplete:


I won't rationalize it and say I have an air-tight proof of the existence of God. The best answer to this is that I can't bring myself not to believe in God no matter how hard I try. This is why I understand the position of many theists here. The only place I disagree with them is the nature of that god and whether or not their perceived version of God must be the true one. I always disagree with absolutists.
And I vehemently disagree with them when they try to sell their own beliefs as the right and only way things should be.

The God I believe in does not care what u believe in. He doesn't even care if u believe in Him or not from the evidence I can see so far.

almost as good as not believing.

you sound agnostic

hopefulLandlord:


with all pleasure

Quake_(natural phenomenon)

the references are below the page

I don't believe that piece of info