Gungnir:


It's only because of how fractured our society is on ethnic lines, if not, the whole should have been scrapped a long time ago.

This is why I keep reiterating that the regional government is the best for Nigeria. All these unnecessary positions will be jettisoned.

omoelerin1:
Some people don't even know the meaning of regionalism they are shouting all about. I don't know when regional becomes a system of govt.
If the system of federating unit that Nigeria practised in the 60s is what you call regional govt, it is still the same federal system we are practising now. We only increase the federating units and call them other names.

Perhaps you should tell me how that one will make us jettison our traditional system. Our traditional rulers were even more powerful in those period than the present time.

NwaChibuzor13:
Must the Alaafin of oyo be aafin in colour? Generally, yoruba kings occupy the lower half of the food chain. They stand no where and can't be compared with nothern kings/ rulers not to talk of igbo kings/rulers despite the fact that they have destroyed the name of royalty no thanks to their numerous ceremonial positions.

NwaChibuzor13:
Must the Alaafin of oyo be aafin in colour? Generally, yoruba kings occupy the lower half of the food chain. They stand no where and can't be compared with nothern kings/ rulers not to talk of igbo kings/rulers despite the fact that they have destroyed the name of royalty no thanks to their numerous ceremonial positions.

Gungnir:



Regional government is not the same as a federal government. Regional government everyone operates to the laws of his region and uses the resources of the region to carry out projects within the region. You don't need to be relying on the federal government to fix your road or other things a region can take care of if they pool their resources together. The prime minister will just be a figure head and attend to international matters that concerns the country. Of course each region will contribute a share to take care of the military and all.

Yes, traditional institutions will be rid of, what purpose will they serve if people are being governed well, a local government sees to it that streets are tarred, electrical poles are well maintained, power lines are in order, everything that should be in his charge is properly maintained. Community police, local health center and clinic is properly equipped. Please tell what is the need for an Oba in such community. Last last they will be reduced to land owning families not being paid for by government when they do nothing.

omoelerin1:
Gibberish

I can see you are confused already, you don't know what you are saying.
It is not until when we make regions the federating units that we will have autonomy for the federating units.
We can still devolve more power to the present federating units (states) and achieve the same autonomy you are saying.

Don't confuse yourself about regional and prime minister you are talking about.

Federal system is not the same thing as parliamentary.

Federal system as to do with the way a country is structured politically for governance while Parliamentary system is about the structure of the government itself.

Assignment, go and read the meaning and not the differences of :
federalism
confederation
Parliamentary system
presidential system


Concerning the obaship, it has come to stay.
If you don't have or have dismantled traditional political system in your tribe is not anybody's business.

IjeleNwa:
How about TillaMan? I thought he is the real omo oba again o?

(Police show am shege!

Gungnir:


It's only because of how fractured our society is on ethnic lines, if not, the whole should have been scrapped a long time ago.

This is why I keep reiterating that the regional government is the best for Nigeria. All these unnecessary positions will be jettisoned.

Gungnir:



Regional government is not the same as a federal government. Regional government everyone operates to the laws of his region and uses the resources of the region to carry out projects within the region. You don't need to be relying on the federal government to fix your road or other things a region can take care of if they pool their resources together. The prime minister will just be a figure head and attend to international matters that concerns the country. Of course each region will contribute a share to take care of the military and all.

Yes, traditional institutions will be rid of, what purpose will they serve if people are being governed well, a local government sees to it that streets are tarred, electrical poles are well maintained, power lines are in order, everything that should be in his charge is properly maintained. Community police, local health center and clinic is properly equipped. Please tell what is the need for an Oba in such community. Last last they will be reduced to land owning families not being paid for by government when they do nothing.

What we have now is more of a unitary government than a federal in the sense of regional structure.

omoelerin1:
Gibberish

I can see you are confused already, you don't know what you are saying.
It is not until when we make regions the federating units that we will have autonomy for the federating units.
We can still devolve more power to the present federating units (states) and achieve the same autonomy you are saying.

Don't confuse yourself about regional and prime minister you are talking about.

Federal system is not the same thing as parliamentary.

Federal system as to do with the way a country is structured politically for governance while Parliamentary system is about the structure of the government itself.

Assignment, go and read the meaning and not the differences of :
federalism
confederation
Parliamentary system
presidential system


Concerning the obaship, it has come to stay.
If you don't have or have dismantled traditional political system in your tribe is not anybody's business.

Gungnir:


Dissolving more power to the states is not as efficient as pooling two or more states within a region. In Nigeria it is clear we have six geopolitical zones which is perfect for a regional government. The number is even.

This federal government you are trying to sell under regional government is crap. It is still the same as being subjected to the powers of the centre. The center abdicating powers to these regions proves that it can as well take it away from it or is the one the power is seated within.

The power of a country should rest within these six regions and even if the country were to go to war, these six region will have to come to agreement to it rather than the center taking the decision on its own. It's not a federal government I am trying to sell here but a regional government styled in a federal or whatever way you want to term it.

Why prime minister is because he will act on behalf of the six region not within his own discretion. The premier of these six regions are the one with the true power. He is just there to represent the face of the country and execute commands that has to do with international politics or cases. It is a system of government that should be fashioned based on the ethnic political landscape of the country.


Each region can them decide to have a 1000 Obas or more within their region, it is their headache and it's their resources to expend on. If they want to have 50 states its their headache and their resources to expend on.

I know for an elightened and well educated region, the Obaship will collapse to at most to three kings or a single king for each state. The idea of having 20 to 30 kings within a state which is just ludicrous and a complete mockery of royalty. Many of the kings in southwest should be land owning families and basically chief, no such right as an Oba should be accorded to them. Btw, I am from the southwest, perhaps far more than you sef.

akigbemaru:


Yet another excellent submission from you! I'm from South West and I don't get involved much with most things with Yorubas. The proliferation of traditional establishments remains remains the biggest Yorubas' woe.

In 2018, Yorubas from Ondo still don't see one another as families with Yoruba from Ogun and IBADAN people don't see one another as one with Pup and all because of the stupid practice called Obaship!
With a prime minister in place, OPC, Afenifere and other freedom-fighting mushroom groups will surely be disappeared into obscurity.


Prime Minister and No to Obaship! No more slavery or Vassal State!

Gungnir:


Of what relevance are these traditional leaders sef?

akigbemaru:


Tell us what we know already and I don't know if you are comprehension's deficiency. That man claims Regional Autonomy is the best practice for the rainbow of nations called Nigeria. He further implies to you that Regionalism will bring about The Prime Minister. He has stated his assertion succinctly and I don't know what you what him to say again.

I will advocate for Regionalism any time any day because that is the only remedy for the quagmire we are in Nigeria.


As a Yoruba man, I detest the traditional practice because it is preposterous and remains a cog in the wheel of our collective progress!

Allafin of Oyo at 80 still getting little girls pregnant and that puts a dent on the collective psyche of all Yoruba people as a civilized people.

The nowadays governors acting like our prime ministers already and that is dangerous to our collective progress!

Obaship is fastly eroding more than the Ozone layers and it would be a bye-gone episode sooner than later as modernity reveals the chinks in its armor.

The battle-line is drawn already between the iconoclasts and the proponents of a lingering Vassal State! It is quite pellucid that the former will triumph over the latter.

Gungnir:


Imagine a community having an Oba, such ludicrous things. So much position little to show for it.

supereagle:

There is nothing wrong with that , we have autonomous communities in Igbo land with Ezes. My grandfather was a second class Oba.