*STUPIDITY OF OUR TIME THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED*


*Medicine and pharmacy students are collecting around #95000 or above during NYSC while Engineering students are collecting the same money as that of other faculties whose courses are run for four years. What is the benefits an Engineering students stand to get from his five years spell on campus with extremely difficult courses he took most of which are mass failure courses, the rate at which cannot be found in other faculties? That is what I called a faulty educational policy. The machines and tools used by both Pharmacist and medical doctors were designed by the engineers which means without the engineers the field of medicine and pharmacy cannot thrive. No Country's development is .measured by the work of medical doctor and pharmacist per se but by their production power which is strictly engineering dependent. That explain why Nigeria and other African countries are lagging behind in technological development. No country developed by treating her engineers like the way Nigeria treats theirs.*

*After taking MTH 101, 102, 104, 201 and 202, EEE 201, 202, MEE 203, 204, 205 and 206 which are all mass failure courses because of their application in science and technology of which no courses in every other faculties (medicine and pharmacy excluded) can be compared with them, the government still deem it fit to pay me #19800 that he paid political science students, economics, education students, Law students, English students, dramatic art students, accounting students and other non-technology students. An ordinary non technology students of tertiary institution has never failed any course throughout his time on campus except the extremely dull ones who cannot solve simple calculations and memorise simple theories. Continuation of such policy will never yield a positive development am afraid.*

*China developed by absolving into their economy their fresh Engineering graduates through giving them series of projects right from their time on campus to which they would find solutions to the problems (in project form) and that would in turn becomes their field of expertise they would dwell on with the government constructing an industry to that effect. That's how they developed.*

*Any country that neglect her engineering students will never taste true development. We are going to fight the useless policy until something is being done. This mediocrity has to stop.*

*Am advocating for a policy change. Engineering and Technology students deserves special treatment as there is no true development without engineers*

*By Salaam Taiwo Afeez*

please the mods should do the needful and move this to fp

Seems factual sha

TemiGod:
*STUPIDITY OF OUR TIME THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED*


*Medicine and pharmacy students are collecting around #95000 or above during NYSC while Engineering students are collecting the same money as that of other faculties whose courses are run for four years. What is the benefits an Engineering students stand to get from his five years spell on campus with extremely difficult courses he took most of which are mass failure courses, the rate at which cannot be found in other faculties? That is what I called a faulty educational policy. The machines and tools used by both Pharmacist and medical doctors were designed by the engineers which means without the engineers the field of medicine and pharmacy cannot thrive. No Country's development is .measured by the work of medical doctor and pharmacist per se but by their production power which is strictly engineering dependent. That explain why Nigeria and other African countries are lagging behind in technological development. No country developed by treating her engineers like the way Nigeria treats theirs.*

*After taking MTH 101, 102, 104, 201 and 202, EEE 201, 202, MEE 203, 204, 205 and 206 which are all mass failure courses because of their application in science and technology of which no courses in every other faculties (medicine and pharmacy excluded) can be compared with them, the government still deem it fit to pay me #19800 that he paid political science students, economics, education students, Law students, English students, dramatic art students, accounting students and other non-technology students. An ordinary non technology students of tertiary institution has never failed any course throughout his time on campus except the extremely dull ones who cannot solve simple calculations and memorise simple theories. Continuation of such policy will never yield a positive development am afraid.*

*China developed by absolving into their economy their fresh Engineering graduates through giving them series of projects right from their time on campus to which they would find solutions to the problems (in project form) and that would in turn becomes their field of expertise they would dwell on with the government constructing an industry to that effect. That's how they developed.*

*Any country that neglect her engineering students will never taste true development. We are going to fight the useless policy until something is being done. This mediocrity has to stop.*

*Am advocating for a policy change. Engineering and Technology students deserves special treatment as there is no true development without engineers*

*By Salaam Taiwo Afeez*

please the mods should do the needful and move this to fp

It is jealousy and envy that will kill u.

Firstly, how many years did engineers spend in school pre nysc, just 5 years. Compare it to the number of years doctors spend in school pre nysc, 6 years, plus extra year for housemanship. And don't forget that 5 out of doctors 6 years are continuous, there's no semester break, unlike engineering students that have so many semester breaks and holidays, so by medical school standards, engineers spend less than 3 years in school.

Compare the cost of studying medicine and the cost of studying engineering, they pay higher tuition and their textbooks are d most expensive.

Finally, note that ur pay is based on ur productivity. If nysc engineers were serving in engineering and manufacturing facilities as professional engineers, then maybe their pay can be increased, but since they are working as teachers, then they ought to b paid as teachers. Nysc doctors serve in hospitals, doing their jobs as professional doctors, therefore, they are paid as doctors.


And for saying that doctors are useless without u pple because u made d machines they use, are u aware that u will not be alive today without doctors because sickness and disease for don kill u.

And how dare u compare mth and mee courses with with medical courses, engineering courses are childs play when compared withe medical courses. Seems u haven't seen ANA301 and PTH courses.

ultron12345:
It is jealousy and envy that will kill u.

Firstly, how many years did engineers spend in school pre nysc, just 5 years. Compare it to the number of years doctors spend in school pre nysc, 6 years, plus extra year for housemanship. And don't forget that 5 out of doctors 6 years are continuous, there's no semester break, unlike engineering students that have so many semester breaks and holidays, so by medical school standards, engineers spend less than 3 years in school.

Compare the cost of studying medicine and the cost of studying engineering, they pay higher tuition and their textbooks are d most expensive.

Finally, note that ur pay is based on ur productivity. If nysc engineers were serving in engineering and manufacturing facilities as professional engineers, then maybe their pay can be increased, but since they are working as teachers, then they ought to b paid as teachers. Nysc doctors serve in hospitals, doing their jobs as professional doctors, therefore, they are paid as doctors.


And for saying that doctors are useless without u pple because u made d machines they use, are u aware that u will not be alive today without doctors because sickness and disease for don kill u.

And how dare u compare mth and mee courses with with medical courses, engineering courses are childs play when compared withe medical courses. Seems u haven't seen ANA301 and PTH courses.

Wow see stupid mentality that should be addressed. What Is there In medicine that yo re shouting,is it to cram and put down all the shiit
Have crammed or wht is special in theoretical courses
Yo spend all yo years reading and cramming what has been put down by someone without subjected to critical thinking and evaluation
Yo make use of book as if yo life depend on it because yo yoself don't even understand what it contains

Come to engineering field and see real analysis and thinking
Or do yo think engineering is just knowing a secondary school fundamentals calculations

And have it in mind all those medical courses yo just need to have yo 50percent and pass it
Because they don't make use of cgpa
And if yo aint very smart and brilliant at the same time yo could end up spending 7years taking engineering course which would have resulted from carry over
And who told yo that pple have not bn surviving before the damn existence of those medical crap we called doctors

And buying expensive textbooks means they would be using it even after their studies
Buh every textbook used by tech stdnt In any semester of his years of studies would never be used for the next semester
Thus yo must have known everything discussed on each textbook used for a particular semester

Harbidexy5:



Wow see stupid mentality that should be addressed. What Is there In medicine that yo re shouting,is it to cram and put down all the shiit
Have crammed or wht is special in theoretical courses
Yo spend all yo years reading and cramming what has been put down by someone without subjected to critical thinking and evaluation
Yo make use of book as if yo life depend on it because yo yoself don't even understand what it contains

Come to engineering field and see real analysis and thinking
Or do yo think engineering is just knowing a secondary school fundamentals calculations

And have it in mind all those medical courses yo just need to have yo 50percent and pass it
Because they don't make use of cgpa
And if yo aint very smart and brilliant at the same time yo could end up spending 7years taking engineering course which would have resulted from carry over
And who told yo that pple have not bn surviving before the damn existence of those medical crap we called doctors

And buying expensive textbooks means they would be using it even after their studies
Buh every textbook used by tech stdnt In any semester of his years of studies would never be used for the next semester
Thus yo must have known everything discussed on each textbook used for a particular semester

you calling medicine a theoretical course shows how silly u are. Medical students that do practical everyday, infact, the course it self is practical compared to engineering students who do nothing but copying from textbooks..........come and tell us how many practicals u pple do...........what do u Nigerian engineers have to show for d so-called practicals.

In medicine, if u get above 70, u dont get pass, u get distinction. In medicine, there is no room for carryover, if u fail a course, then u repeat that year, fail it again, them u withdraw. Unlike engineering when u can carryover anyhow, infact in final year, the department even waives off carryovers for most students. Engineering courses that pass mark is 45, even primary and secondary schools have higher passmark. FYI, medical school does have semesters.

If u ain't smart, u can spend 12 years studying medicine and even b withdrawn in the 12th year.

Are you implying that engineers don't consult textbooks after school? Suffery lie na.

Have pple not been surviving before invention of lights, cars and other things.

Upon all d so called analysis u do, yet u nigerian engineers cannot make anything, so incompetent that we have to import technicians from India and China for most engineering work. Common toothpick, we import, cos our engineers have failed us.....

Like I said before, since Nigerians have seen u pple worthy only to working schools, teaching during nysc, then u will continue to b paid like teachers during nysc.

I will not waste my time arguing with u.....................but deep within u, u know medicine trumps engineering

ultron12345:
you calling medicine a theoretical course shows how silly u are. Medical students that do practical everyday, infact, the course it self is practical compared to engineering students who do nothing but copying from textbooks..........come and tell us how many practicals u pple do...........what do u Nigerian engineers have to show for d so-called practicals.

In medicine, if u get above 70, u dont get pass, u get distinction. In medicine, there is no room for carryover, if u fail a course, then u repeat that year, fail it again, them u withdraw. Unlike engineering when u can carryover anyhow, infact in final year, the department even waives off carryovers for most students. Engineering courses that pass mark is 45, even primary and secondary schools have higher passmark. FYI, medical school does have semesters.

If u ain't smart, u can spend 12 years studying medicine and even b withdrawn in the 12th year.

Are you implying that engineers don't consult textbooks after school? Suffery lie na.

Have pple not been surviving before invention of lights, cars and other things.

Upon all d so called analysis u do, yet u nigerian engineers cannot make anything, so incompetent that we have to import technicians from India and China for most engineering work. Common toothpick, we import, cos our engineers have failed us.....

Like I said before, since Nigerians have seen u pple worthy only to working schools, teaching during nysc, then u will continue to b paid like teachers during nysc.

Durrrrth
Actually ain't in the mood to word with the likes of you Buh I still have to let yo know
And yo should stop arguing on the obvious
Come to oau we do Practicals like never before even being a survey student yo still do many practicals not to talk of tech stdnts that their final project is always inform of practical which they have to solve and defend before graduating


Now yo saying engineering are kinda useless in this same damn Nigeria tht her only means of survival is petrol
Now only a fool or ignorant will not know how important engineering is in this sector which is the life line for Nigerians survival
Or are the white folks the one to mine any discovered minerals in Nigeria? No.

Now tell me how much your so called medicine is generating for the country that president buahri had to Travel abroad for so Called sickness that yo addressed in the country

Ended up wasting our limited resources gong abroad to receive treatment

So get this straight to yo cramming skull
Or may be yo should also cram it

Engineers contribute immensely to this economy
Buh we are just wasting money on the irrelevant doctors

Harbidexy5:

Durrrrth
Actually ain't in the mood to word with the likes of you Buh I still have to let yo know
And yo should stop arguing on the obvious
Come to oau we do Practicals like never before even being a survey student yo still do many practicals not to talk of tech stdnts that their final project is always inform of practical which they have to solve and defend before graduating


Now yo saying engineering are kinda useless in this same damn Nigeria tht her only means of survival is petrol
Now only a fool or ignorant will not know how important engineering is in this sector which is the life line for Nigerians survival
Or are the white folks the one to mine any discovered minerals in Nigeria? No.

Now tell me how much your so called medicine is generating for the country that president buahri had to Travel abroad for so Called sickness that yo addressed in the country

Ended up wasting our limited resources gong abroad to receive treatment

So get this straight to yo cramming skull
Or may be yo should also cram it

Engineers contribute immensely to this economy
Buh we are just wasting money on the irrelevant doctors

Dey there dey nack teeth.......no matter what, engineering students can never do as Much practicals as medical students.

Which stupid engineers, common road renovation, we have to waste our limited resources to import technicians from India and China.

Nigerian engineers are a waste of tax payers money (since government subsidized their training).

Since doctors are irrelevant, my prayer is that when you or a close relative urgently needs a doctor, you will not see any.

[quote author=ultron12345 post=65640210] It is jealousy and envy that will kill u.

Firstly, how many years did engineers spend in school pre nysc, just 5 years. Compare it to the number of years doctors spend in school pre nysc, 6 years, plus extra year for housemanship. And don't forget that 5 out of doctors 6 years are continuous, there's no semester break, unlike engineering students that have so many semester breaks and holidays, so by medical school standards, engineers spend less than 3 years in school.
Please note that they are paid separately for horsemanship which is like 100k so no one is talking about housemanship here. Secondly, with all the trash you wrote it's obvious you are not an engineering student cause how can you say we spend 3 years in school like seriously! So arts and social sciences guys spend 1 abi? And incase you don't know after part1 we have no rain semester break! We stay in school for swep after part2 rain semester,so no break for us cause we resume the same time school resumes and we stay in school to do practicals, you get it!! PRACTICALS and mini project unlike our medicine folks who still stay in school because of THEORY classes and all and mind you they still get to go on break. Again after part3 we go on siewes training in industries for 3 months with no break again, then after part4 another 6months industrial training with no break again for us, after it that there is part5 project that even when everybody you graduate with has forgotten that they went to university, you are still battling with TASKING AND UNIMAGINABLE project to deal with so tell me where is the break you are talking about, or is it harmattan semester break you are talking about that sometimes is not even up to a month! Ehn tell me

Compare the cost of studying medicine and the cost of studying engineering, they pay higher tuition and their textbooks are d most expensive.
My dear go and ask any engineering students how much they spend on practicals and project. Most of the time we pay with our money for practicals that we do in department and faculty after paying school fees, dues and what note. The part5 folks currently in my school have spent almost 100k on practicals and they are not even close to finishing it, school is not sponsoring is for any of these oh, just we and ourselves and the lecturers don't even give a damn and frustrated me you won't want to have an e or d in 9/15 units course



Finally, note that ur pay is based on ur productivity. If nysc engineers were serving in engineering and manufacturing facilities as professional engineers, then maybe their pay can be increased, but since they are working as teachers, then they ought to b paid as teachers. Nysc doctors serve in hospitals, doing their jobs as professional doctors, therefore, they are paid as doctors.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehe, I laugh in Spanish, it's not your fault though, I blame those nysc directors. Seriously! We work as teachers during nysc hahahahahahahaha. Biggest joker of the century. Big hiss!!!


And for saying that doctors are useless without u pple because u made d machines they use, are u aware that u will not be alive today without doctors because sickness and disease for don kill u.

Before doctors came into play Abeg how were people surviving and before there was ever medicine, engineering has always existed. Striking of stones to create light is engineering! It's not like I expect house to understand


And how dare u compare mth and mee courses with with medical courses, engineering courses are childs play when compared withe medical courses. Seems u haven't seen ANA301 and PTH courses.[/quote]

Go and try any of them and then come back to give me an answer.
People in otger department always say final year is the easiest and truly for them it's very easy cause they may offer only like 2or 3 courses. Medical rehab final year in my school only offer 2 courses for final year. Yes 2! If you are in engineering and you have that mindset just forget it cause it's not so after part2 and 3, I can say part 5 is the next tough if not tougher than the rest.

[quote author=TemiGod post=65644094][/quote]All u said about u guys not going on holiday are nothing but LIES. Whether harmattan abi rain, u guys go on long holidays.

If u like kill urself, u cannot compare medicines practical with that of engineering.......if engineering does 1 practical, medicine does 10.

It is a well known fact that medical books are the most expensive. U are talking abt 100k, textbooks for pre clinical students cost about 70k-80k that's just for year 2 and first half of year 3. Not 2 add d huge gap between tuition of engineering and medical students.

Herbs have always existed.

Don't compare medical rehab with medicine........so u believe medicine does 2 courses in final year......hahaha.....joker of d century.........FYI, in clinical years, frm last half of year 3 till graduation, medical students don't do courses, they do posting. U can try any medical course and come and tell me hw they went.

TemiGod:
*STUPIDITY OF OUR TIME THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED*


*Medicine and pharmacy students are collecting around #95000 or above during NYSC while Engineering students are collecting the same money as that of other faculties whose courses are run for four years. What is the benefits an Engineering students stand to get from his five years spell on campus with extremely difficult courses he took most of which are mass failure courses, the rate at which cannot be found in other faculties? That is what I called a faulty educational policy. The machines and tools used by both Pharmacist and medical doctors were designed by the engineers which means without the engineers the field of medicine and pharmacy cannot thrive. No Country's development is .measured by the work of medical doctor and pharmacist per se but by their production power which is strictly engineering dependent. That explain why Nigeria and other African countries are lagging behind in technological development. No country developed by treating her engineers like the way Nigeria treats theirs.*

*After taking MTH 101, 102, 104, 201 and 202, EEE 201, 202, MEE 203, 204, 205 and 206 which are all mass failure courses because of their application in science and technology of which no courses in every other faculties (medicine and pharmacy excluded) can be compared with them, the government still deem it fit to pay me #19800 that he paid political science students, economics, education students, Law students, English students, dramatic art students, accounting students and other non-technology students. An ordinary non technology students of tertiary institution has never failed any course throughout his time on campus except the extremely dull ones who cannot solve simple calculations and memorise simple theories. Continuation of such policy will never yield a positive development am afraid.*

*China developed by absolving into their economy their fresh Engineering graduates through giving them series of projects right from their time on campus to which they would find solutions to the problems (in project form) and that would in turn becomes their field of expertise they would dwell on with the government constructing an industry to that effect. That's how they developed.*

*Any country that neglect her engineering students will never taste true development. We are going to fight the useless policy until something is being done. This mediocrity has to stop.*

*Am advocating for a policy change. Engineering and Technology students deserves special treatment as there is no true development without engineers*

*By Salaam Taiwo Afeez*

please the mods should do the needful and move this to fp

Useless comparison.

ultron12345:
It is jealousy and envy that will kill u.

Firstly, how many years did engineers spend in school pre nysc, just 5 years. Compare it to the number of years doctors spend in school pre nysc, 6 years, plus extra year for housemanship. And don't forget that 5 out of doctors 6 years are continuous, there's no semester break, unlike engineering students that have so many semester breaks and holidays, so by medical school standards, engineers spend less than 3 years in school.

Compare the cost of studying medicine and the cost of studying engineering, they pay higher tuition and their textbooks are d most expensive.

Finally, note that ur pay is based on ur productivity. If nysc engineers were serving in engineering and manufacturing facilities as professional engineers, then maybe their pay can be increased, but since they are working as teachers, then they ought to b paid as teachers. Nysc doctors serve in hospitals, doing their jobs as professional doctors, therefore, they are paid as doctors.


And for saying that doctors are useless without u pple because u made d machines they use, are u aware that u will not be alive today without doctors because sickness and disease for don kill u.

And how dare u compare mth and mee courses with with medical courses, engineering courses are childs play when compared withe medical courses. Seems u haven't seen ANA301 and PTH courses.

Don't mind him.
Let him continue with his meaningless comparison.

What is even the dabate topic?
I am so happy to choose MLS to my ss2 mechanical engineering mind
Tho the ward Men Still wont Let us be.. Bt am cool with it.

Tech is not for shit and dullard
Yo gat to be smart and reason fast
Knowing fully all proof backing any inference or conclusions yo draw
All laws must have origin and what they convey

Proud of be an engineer mhen
Pioneer of every country's development
Leave it or take engineering Wil still blow and I'm sure it's a matter of time all these quack doctors we are producing in Nigeria will soon cast
They gat nothing to offer us except minor sickness treatment way them go quickly peep from their life depending textbooks

And they be eating the economy like that
And we are complaining of recession
Most scholarships outside for student are mostly the contribution of engineering sectors
I never once seen a scholarship fuel by the doctors to help those student

Sorry













But check my signature if you live in Jos and environs

Harbidexy5:
Tech is not for shit and dullard
Yo gat to be smart and reason fast
Knowing fully all proof backing any inference or conclusions yo draw
All laws must have origin and what they convey

Proud of be an engineer mhen
Pioneer of every country's development
Leave it or take engineering Wil still blow and I'm sure it's a matter of time all these quack doctors we are producing in Nigeria will soon cast
They gat nothing to offer us except minor sickness treatment way them go quickly peep from their life depending textbooks

And they be eating the economy like that
And we are complaining of recession
Most scholarships outside for student are mostly the contribution of engineering sectors
I never once seen a scholarship fuel by the doctors to help those student

its obvious u are not here to solve the problem facing d fate of ur profession but rather to compare urself with health worker
keep comparing while the truth keep showing on white board..,,

indirectly u wont b bothered if medics arent treated d way they are been treated since they are the yardstick for the progress of ur profession..


oya since u wana argue lets start here,

how much did u spend on academics throughout ur stay in school , am sure only 3 class out of 6 class in medicine will pay it off.


did u take any oath/pledge while graduating to serve and deliver and we work by it that's even if u guys do induction self



oya let the association of engineering go on strike whether it will have any effect like wen doctors go on strike to show u how (I dont wanna say urent that relevant o though u started the bashing game)

u said medics are dull and bla bla bla,
am sure an average medic is smarter tthan ur so called engine guys, starting from grassroot, what was ur jamb score wen u gained admission, pls note without 290-300 now in jamb, u may not enter Medicine,
and u think we that got the 300 are dull compare tou tgat can easily gain admission with 230 in jamb, decieve urself,


yes , society pay u base on ur current contribution,,
an average Nigerian can do without an engineer for years but I doubt if u can compare that to the medical stuff ure talking about


every school have student health centre coz people need medical, did ur school hav tech centre which student can visit for one problem or d other.

lemme stop here ,
don't just let me start with u coz..

show nigeria u should b treated well, not this your comparison with medic , its a wrong motion

ultron12345:
It is jealousy and envy that will kill u.

Firstly, how many years did engineers spend in school pre nysc, just 5 years. Compare it to the number of years doctors spend in school pre nysc, 6 years, plus extra year for housemanship. And don't forget that 5 out of doctors 6 years are continuous, there's no semester break, unlike engineering students that have so many semester breaks and holidays, so by medical school standards, engineers spend less than 3 years in school.

Compare the cost of studying medicine and the cost of studying engineering, they pay higher tuition and their textbooks are d most expensive.

Finally, note that ur pay is based on ur productivity. If nysc engineers were serving in engineering and manufacturing facilities as professional engineers, then maybe their pay can be increased, but since they are working as teachers, then they ought to b paid as teachers. Nysc doctors serve in hospitals, doing their jobs as professional doctors, therefore, they are paid as doctors.


And for saying that doctors are useless without u pple because u made d machines they use, are u aware that u will not be alive today without doctors because sickness and disease for don kill u.

And how dare u compare mth and mee courses with with medical courses, engineering courses are childs play when compared withe medical courses. Seems u haven't seen ANA301 and PTH courses.

You made sense until your last paragraph. No course in the Tertiary Institution is a child's play. None. None at all.

You guy should stop arguing like children. For the engineers your predecessors were the cause of your problems. They didn't fight for you people that's why its like this. The Nigerian society of engineers should have lobby the law makers to place pay package standard for engineers just the way it is in the medical and pharmaceutical profession.

Pharmacist council made sure that every pharmaceutical shop you open in this country has a pharmacists that must be paid 120k minimum and they have stuck to that till date. You can't own a pharmaceutical shop and not have a pharmacist on ground that registers the place even if he is to register and go yet he is paid handsomely by the owners.

A friend who is a pharmacist told me that the last year conference they had is even making the wh
whole thing tougher all in a bid to protect the prifession. Same applies to medical doctors, whose association has made it compulsory that you can't just employ a doctor and pay him peanut. Even if he works less than six hours a day.

But the engineering association is shithole no strict laws guiding its profession. All they know is collect levies and tax the graduates. No laws protecting the profession.

So the professions are reaping from what their predesessor had on ground to protect the profession.

Davidson134:
You guy should stop arguing like children. For the engineers your predecessors were the cause of your problems. They didn't fight for you people that's why its like this. The Nigerian society of engineers should have lobby the law makers to place pay package standard for engineers just the way it is in the medical and pharmaceutical profession.

Pharmacist council made sure that every pharmaceutical shop you open in this country has a pharmacists that must be paid 120k minimum and they have stuck to that till date. You can't own a pharmaceutical shop and not have a pharmacist on ground that registers the place even if he is to register and go yet he is paid handsomely by the owners.

A friend who is a pharmacist told me that the last year conference they had is even making the wh
whole thing tougher all in a bid to protect the prifession. Same applies to medical doctors, whose association has made it compulsory that you can't just employ a doctor and pay him peanut. Even if he works less than six hours a day.

But the engineering association is shithole no strict laws guiding its profession. All they know is collect levies and tax the graduates. No laws protecting the profession.

So the professions are reaping from what their predesessor had on ground to protect the profession.

Sir, you summarized all what I wanted to say, for a start I'm a 500 level vet medical student and our allowances are also higher, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't give honor to whom honor is due. Sir, I personally have a deep and profound respect for Engineers, sincerely it is not easy. From experience so far, you can survive in medical school (I studied Human Anatomy in my first degree) if you have a photographic memory, maybe have some little glitches in surgery but I doubt if photographic memory can help you in engineering. For example, I was speaking to an engineering student and he was giving me an instance of the nature of their questions. He said in some courses, they just give the questions, NO formula, you would have to think of the appropriate formula to use, derive the formula yourself before finally applying it to solve the question, Sir a dullard cannot do the above rather it takes someone with a high IQ. That is why I will always duff my hat for a 1st class engineering student. Furthermore inasmuch as we need doctors we also need engineers even more (my opinon tho), How? The last time I went to the hospital for treatment without exaggerating was more than 5yrs ago, not that I didn't fall sick but most of us still have an idea of what to do if we fall sick it is only if serious we go to the hospital. But for engineering can you count the amount of times you've visited a mechanic, electrician or even a generator repairer just this year? I'm sure we know the answer. The OP has a lot of valid points up there. But the problem facing their profession is quackery and laziness from the part of their association. If laws can be put in place, for example: ensuring all mechanic workshops are duely registered and licensed and the requirement is at least one B Tech or B Engineering holder incharge of that place, imagine the demand we would see for engineers (especially now that cars are getting advanced by the day). Also for civil engineering, No Building or construction should be approved by the government without showing the list of those who would work on the site, which must include a licensed civil engineer (B Tech or B Engineering). And many more opportunities I believe engineers and engineering students can add. In conclusion if the above is done, the demand for engineers both Nysc and Post Nysc would increase and their dues would be duly paid. Thank you

You guys are making Me proud. keep it up

As an engineer you need to think outside the box. Those pay only last for a year. come up with something that will change the world and more value would be added to your profession.

Engineering is life...dont joke with engineers

Engineering, Law, Accounting, Medicine are all noble profession.


An entry level salary for a graduate of Engineering in oil coys goes as high as 200000. Like someone said it depends on productivity. Some doctors are being paid 30000#( corp in state owned primary health care) while some are being paid #50000 ( tertiary hospital corp)..

Pay always differ base on what you offer to the society and how much your organization can pay.


Engineering is cool, but engr are not given the opportunity to showcase there self.

Dear Engineering graduates, have you ever been on 36 to 48 hr call ?

Another wahala this morning again

U r not d only ones spending 5years in school go through your council to address d issue engineering to medicine can u imagine

This not about medical students or government. This is about Nigeria medical association. NMA is an association that commands respect than any association in Nigeria and the nysc fee structure was influenced by them. It's nobody s fault that engineering association has no power. I have never heard of engineers go on strike before because majority of them are private companies compare to doctors who form part of the integrative framework of Healthcare system and policy, a very fundamental part of any nation


To the op you need to see down and rethink and analyze before you spill trash.

Mind you am a sociologist. You can tell the difference

Instead of thinking of tangible innovations, you are here arguing about what profession is better. Even had the effontery to insult other professions. I laugh sha. In 5 years time, you guys will be buying ICAN forms just to swap profession.