claremont:
Haha

The never-ending Naija versus 'abroad' debate. Good luck guys, those of us 'abroad' will keep on suffering whilst you guys in Naija will be enjoying.

Bros you wicked chai.... you vote Buhari con run leave us to enjoy our banana republic.... no worry na

wonlasewonimi:

There's a loon called timesup234 who thinks can't raise any money if you stay in Europe or US.

Probably a troll or someone that was misinformed.

obonujoker:


Bros you wicked chai.... you vote Buhari con run leave us to enjoy our banana republic.... no worry na

We got Trump in America, at least Buhari isn't trying to drag you into a nuclear war! (I'm not living there but still)

revontuli:


We got Trump in America, at least Buhari isn't trying to drag you into a nuclear war! (I'm not living there but still)

Trump's America is a million times better than Buhari's Nigeria....

What is all this world wild madness

Move to usa/europe..........
Stay in Nigeria.........

Everywhere with its own crap,
So where is someone suppose to live now?

ItzBIM:
I’m already in Nigeria bro, went to U.k when I was 15 now I’m 27. I have a real estate business and also own an independent cinema. U.k is not a long term plan make your money and bounce

God bless you. I find it far easier to work and make my money here, and then go on holidays to the UK or any other foreign country I fancy, for just about 2-3 weeks max. I just cannot live in the UK for a long stretch of time. It is too cold, too sterile, too routine and just too mind numbing for me. I know a number of people who finance their lifestyles abroad, with funds earned from their investments and properties, in Nigeria.

As a person who often visits the US for vacation, my advise is that if you are young and with few responsibilities or without a good job in Nigeria, by all means leave Nigeria... Travel is also a great form of education..

If you are over forty and have a very good job in Nigeria or a young individual working in an Oil company with a fat salary, do not leave it to pursue rubbish abroad...

Truth is, living abroad offers everyone an equal opportunity to success (to a very reasonable extent)..IT's NOT A BED OF ROSES, BUT IT REWARDS hard working people... If you are a LEGAL RESIDENT, you respect the law,hardworking, pay your taxes, you can live a very decent life and aim higher...

A decent life abroad is a Rich life in Nigeria when compared.....

Ishilove:


Emergency Relationship Counselor- by Pius Adesanmi

You read stories like this one shared by the prof and just stare gloomily ahead

I am shocked that someone that calls himself a professor would attempt to weave a bunch of lies and half truths in an attempt to support his spurious assertion that life in Nigeria/Ghana is better than life in America. We all know that it is a lie so let us not deceive ourselves.

You see this Samsung S8+ you are wielding? It's about one thousand dollars. Over there, we cannot afford the phones you guys use here. We sign three-year contracts for the phones you just buy like bread here. He paid off this phone to bring it home to you. It's on his credit card. He is still paying for it monthly in America. It will take him three years to pay it off.

The bolded is an outright LIE! How many Nigerians in Nigeria can afford to pay 320,000 for a Galaxy S9? A Galaxy S9 costs roughly $900 and even a person working a low income job in Walmart earning say $2000 can afford to buy one. Let us do the math, For a Nigerian living in Nigeria to be able to afford a Galaxy S9, he should earn at least 640,000 monthly. Please how many people do you know earn 640,000 a month? If you are going to lie please don't make it an obvious lie.

You see this Samsung S6 I am using? I signed a three-year contract on it two years ago. I am still paying. Yet, here you are using Samsung S8+. By the time I am able to upgrade to Samsung S8 in Canada, you people in Africa will be using Samsung S12 and still expecting your people in the diaspora to fund that lifestyle

You should be thankful that you can spread the cost of a brand new premium phone over the span of 3 years rather than being ungrateful. How many folks in Nigeria can spread the cost of a phone over the period of even a year? Which would you rather do, pay for the phone at once or pay over a span of 3 years? Besides it is not by force to use the latest Samsung phones. If you can't afford it, for heavens sake there are OTHER affordable phones you can buy. CUT YOUR COAT ACCORDING TO YOUR CLOTH!

In summary what I see is a man that is not financially responsible and is buying things he cannot afford all in a desire to please people. If you are NOT financially responsible in Nigeria, you would not be financially responsible in America

revontuli:


Well said sister!
Living to impress the others is a trap.
Warren Buffett is one of the richest men in the world and still living in the house he bought decades ago (not a mansion!)
There's no shame in living with a flatmate or living frugal.

There is dignity in honest labour. It's only nigerians that think less of people who live simply.

Even former pm, Cameron flew easy jet whilst he was still in office.

LaudableXX:


God bless you. I find it far easier to work and make my money here, and then go on holidays to the UK or any other foreign country I fancy, for just about 2-3 weeks max. I just cannot live in the UK for a long stretch of time. It is too cold, too sterile, too routine and just too mind numbing for me. I know a number of people who finance their lifestyles abroad, with funds earned from their investments and properties, in Nigeria.

That's plain dumb when you factor in exchange rate and possible trouble with the tax man.

shaybebaby:


That's plain dumb when you factor in exchange rate and possible trouble with the tax man.

Do you believe everything you read on the Internet?

wonlasewonimi:


Do you believe everything you read on the Internet?

No, lol.

If I did, I wouldn't have questioned it would I?

What is truly baffling is that most of us are missing the point (message) of the original post. Also, the type of pressure which make some of the guys out there not want to return is so glaring.

First of all, only a very lucky few go abroad and within a space of 6-12 months, become very financially okay. From what I can see, the average person takes about 3-5 years and a lot of work to make it. The worst ones are those that do not have legit paperwork, they could potentially take more time and work to gain some stability in life.

The second point is the reason why many folks abroad do not want to return is that they have not yet attained the perceived level of wealth or social status that justifies their leaving naija in the first place. This is most usually a perception of the larger society, sometimes it is actually just imagined or over-exaggerated in the person's mind, but it is there and very real!

The third point I wish to make is, we that are back at home, we do not see the process - we do not see the struggle, work, pain and effort. We only see the "enjoyment" part. In the end, every individual decides for themselves if the enjoyment at the end is worth going through the process. Keep in mind, that after making this assessment, many will keep the truth at the bottom of their heart to themselves and tell a different tale outside!

revontuli:


It is called debt slavery. People become slaves to debt and work their a$$es off to pay it, for the rest of their lives.

But are there not those who can beat the evil credit card system. Why should someone become a debtor for life?

sharpwriter:


But are there not those who can beat the evil credit card system. Why should someone become a debtor for life?

Irresponsibility. Or simply not knowing how it works.

I mean some people use payday loans that were so unregulated some used to charge 1000%APR! I believe they've been capped now about 50% but even at that, their existence explains a lot. A lot of people cannot manage their finances, live beyond their means thus getting trapped by mounting debt.

Eke40seven:


According to the article, "you can never understand" no be curse...

Gba!!!

timesup234:
I defeated you the last time and this is another chance to finally bury you. You can all tell lies to 200million blind Nigerians but not me. Nigerians living in America always run for cover when they come across my name

Lolz.... both of you will not kill me with laughter, everytime at each others neck cos of America. I am enjoying you both. Ride on. But Timesup, why you hate USA so much. I'm interested in what started your research about the country and why you became their enemy. Seriously interested.

Elxandre:

If the west is so shiiit, why do you still leave there?

Same reason it is hard to walk back to your crew after you stepped out to go 'block' a fine chic and she give you 'e sor lenu'!

Time2Smile:

Yes, University libraries. And you don't even need a card to enter.

That is what she said down there. My guy, I no be idiot na... if we are to take what she said literally, it means uni libraries do not close even on federal holidays and significant ones like Christmas etc. Even at certain point in the day in uni library, they will bounce non-card holders. Make una no dey do like sey because we neva enter abroad, we no sabi something jor!

shaybebaby:

Uni libraries are open 24/7/365. What's your point?

shaybebaby:

Irresponsibility. Or simply not knowing how it works.

I mean some people use payday loans that were so unregulated some used to charge 1000%APR! I believe they've been capped now about 50% but even at that, their existence explains a lot. A lot of people cannot manage their finances, live beyond their means thus getting trapped by mounting debt.

Na wa o

sharpwriter:


Na wa o

Abi na. You will be amazed at how inept some people are when it comes to finances.

sharpwriter:


But are there not those who can beat the evil credit card system. Why should someone become a debtor for life?

Smart people beat it. They use the cards to buy things they have the cash for, like food, gas, medicine etc. to collect the reward points.

revontuli:


Smart people beat it. They use the cards to buy things they have the cash for, like food, gas, medicine etc. to collect the reward points.

Oil dey your head.

shaybebaby:
Oil dey your head.

for ur mind oooo chai can only speak by typing hahahahah Shay Shay

shaybebaby:

Oil dey your head.

What does it mean?

revontuli:


What does it mean?

It means you are clever, you made a valid point. Lol.

You going to have to brush up on your naij speak, I update myself using this forum which is where I got the expression from.

RuuDie:


That is what she said down there. My guy, I no be idiot na... if we are to take what she said literally, it means uni libraries do not close even on federal holidays and significant ones like Christmas etc. Even at certain point in the day in uni library, they will bounce non-card holders. Make una no dey do like sey because we neva enter abroad, we no sabi something jor!

I agree with you. However, l library doesn't close on Federal holidays though only on Thanksgiving, New Year and Christmas(3 days in a year) ,But let us assume they close on Federal holidays too and don't allow those without card from 11pm to 7pm(Although other ID like drivers license are acceptable). The root of the argument is that someone said there is free internet access abroad. Is the time available between 7am to 11pm everyday not enough for the person access free internet, books and other resources.?

shaybebaby:

It means you are clever, you made a valid point. Lol.

You going to have to brush up on your naij speak, I update myself using this forum which is where I got the expression from.

I had just one week of exposure to naij speak here

revontuli:


I had just one week of exposure to naij speak here

You'll pick it up in no time, welcome aboard.

It's a lovely forum, lots of sane and not so sane people on here. You need a thick skin cos many people are frustrated but there are good uns too. How did you end up here(find this forum I mean)?

shaybebaby:

You'll pick it up in no time, welcome aboard.

It's a lovely forum, lots of sane and not so sane people on here. You need a thick skin cos many people are frustrated but there are good uns too. How did you end up here(find this forum I mean)?

Searching something on Google, but I can't remember what! I ended up in some interesting threads and got hooked. There are some awesome people here for sure. And so much to learn!

shaybebaby:

Oil dey your head.

revontuli:


What does it mean?

It means you have good fortune (have a head that brings luck/success)
That's the direct translation.

shaybebaby:

It means you are clever, you made a valid point.

This is acceptable in context. Pidgin is flexible.

Who cares, if i ever enta yankee, grass must green for me o...