Why is it that only you folks who claimed to follow the sunnah are the ones opening stupid threads and causing trouble?.

Does that mean you can't survive without have some sort of schism to your fellow muslims?.

Mr. Plumber claims to be upon Sunnah of salad but he's reek and unintelligent. His threads don't go far without hullabaloo.

Same with Rashduct4luv and other salafi people. Isn't this a storm proof against you guys. Your conversations always deprived of spiritual insight and iqma.

All or most of your threads and contributions always have to do with gidigbo gidigbo

Empiree:
Why is it that only you folks who claimed to follow the sunnah are the ones opening stupid threads and causing trouble?.

Does that mean you can't survive without have some sort of schism to your fellow muslims?.

Mr. Plumber claims to be upon Sunnah of salad but he's reek and unintelligent. His threads don't go far without hullabaloo.

Same with Rashduct4luv and other salafi people. Isn't this a storm proof against you guys. Your conversations always deprived of spiritual insight and iqma.

All or most of your threads and contributions always have to do with gidigbo gidigbo

Since you believe he claims , why the noise , make your contribution or keep your fingers at bay

Fundamentalist:


Since you believe he claims , why the noise , make your contribution or keep your fingers at bay

what's this one saying

Empiree:
smh. I am Muslim

Soofees Muslim

you can tell this to Rashduct4luv who thinks some guys climbing pole seeking baraka are Sufi or anyone who claims so

Why would even climb a pole to seek Barakah?!

Demmzy15:

Why would even climb a pole to seek Barakah?!

how does this concern anyone?. It is their problem if they choose to climb mountain.

I am a muslim. You aren't comfortable unless you add that adjective?

Empiree:
what's this one saying

I just wonder how you reason

Fundamentalist:


Whether you claim it or not

You are Boko haram representative on Nairaland .

The last time we chatted , you said you won't come back to Nairaland because it full of kufru , I wonder what are doing here again

So dumb

Rashduct4luv:


O ma se o!
Of course i know but i don't know. Is this a paradox?

Ok here are my questions

A. Classify with deleel who is a Muslim out of the following assuming they have appreciable knowledge of Islam!

1. One who celebrates Maolid.

2. One who prays by virtue of Niyaas or Tijaani or Jelani

3. One who climbs a pole claiming he saw a Sheikh to seek barakah from the Pole.

4. One who joins MSSN or MCAN.

5. One who goes to Nasfat, etc.

6. One who curses the Prophet's companions & wife and also believe Ali is worthier of prophethood than the Prophet.

7. A drunk who also fornicates

8. One who collects Riba

9. One who leaves Solah indefinitely

10. One who calls the Prophet salallahu alayhi waslam "the owner of the earth & Heaven".

11. One who prays to the dead.

12. One who uses the Masbaha to count Adhkar.

13. One who greets by bowing, kneeling or prostrating to an elder.

14. One who calls everyone he sees a kaafir without seeing any kufr in them.

B. Some Sahabahs did what we could refer to as Bid'ia today but were corrected by the Prophet. Did they become kaafir and later had to re-utter the Shahadah or were just simply corrected?

C. And i will also like to know how come you gave me the certificate of Kufr! Which kufr did i commit?

7 is a Muslim m because all he did was sin.. He's a Muslim.
8 is a Muslim because all he did was sin.. He's a Muslim





B. There's difference between bidah, someone that does bidah and kufru. Not everyone that does bidah is a kafir.
Example, marwan, Abu israil. They both did bidah, but they are not kafir because the conditions to be met before one can call someone a kafir wasn't in their act..

Abu israil listened to all Rosul corrections.. Proving that all he did that was bidah is OUT OF IGNORANCE... Because he's ignorant , and he listened to corrections that's why he's not a kafir

Marwan did bidha and he's not a kafir. Because all conditions to be met before one can be called a kafir is not in his actions. He did what was clear to him.. HE MADE MISTAKE.. and he listened to corrections.. That's exactly why you can't see any narration that he repeated the act again



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For example, someone using tesubah for adkar.. And he was given dalil that it's bidah.. (at that moment, that person does bidah but that person is not a kafir because conditions to met in a person act before making takfir of them is not in his body).. After he's given dalil, he understands and he said, awon baba wa.. Baba adama.. Bi won se ni kaa ma Se niyen.. Or the person said, please shut up.. Your Wahala too much.. If tesubah existed during Rosul era, he will use it.. Such person is a kafir... Because he rejected truth and innovated into the Deen of Allah by rejection of Quran verse 3 and so many hadith of Rosul..










Allah said HE won't judge us for whatsoever we make mistakes on, forget, we were forced to do... (that's in aqeedah)

In akham issues, mistakes, forget, force, ignorance, misunderstanding...


Have you understand... ?

It's Takfeeery people that kafara people without shuroot.. As long as you do bidah, you are a kafir. As a Muslim, there are things that you have to look at before making takfir. M things Allah stated. Things Rosul practised.. That sahabah practiced.


What you can use to divide bidah is someone that does bidah during Rosul era, and shuroot is complete and that person and Rosul didn't kafara that person.. Ehn Ehn.. That's how you can divide bidah..



So ti ye e.. Olodo

AbdelKabir:


If the prophet said all bidah leads to hell, does it mean everyone that goes to hell died a kaafir?

Exactly.

SaeedIbnEesa:



So dumb

Boko haram

Empiree:
how does this concern anyone?. It is their problem if they choose to climb mountain.

I am a muslim. You aren't comfortable unless you add that adjective?

Why would someone in the right state of mind climb a pole to seek Barakah? Does that even sound sane to you?

Demmzy15:
Why would someone in the right state of mind climb a pole to seek Barakah? Does that even sound sane to you?

I have told you that's their problem. My concern is how is this Sheikh responsible for this?. What's is his business with someone climbing pole?.


Now, remember in the time of nabi(saw), there was this bizzare behavior as well when some sahaba were instructed to pour the cupping blood of the prophet (saw) in a hole and bury it?. What did sahabi do?. He drank the blood with intention of seeking baraka.

When he returned to the prophet (saw), he asked him what he did with the blood?. Sahabi said he drank it in order to seek his baraka. So nabi frawn at him and told him not to do that again.

When next nabi (saw) did hijama again and asked another sahabi to bury his blood far from the place, that sahabi also drank his blood but he told the prophet he buried it. Nabi reprimanded him and he confessed he drank it. Thereby the holy prophet (saw) smiled and faulted him not.

Sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Ashile(ra) said Hausa people are descendants of these type of sahaba by this virtue. It is weird but you can't do anything about it unfortunately. This is weird and too wild control.

Empiree:
[s]I have told you that's their problem. My concern is how is this Sheikh responsible for this?. What's is his business with someone climbing pole?.


Now, remember in the time of nabi(saw), there was this bizzare behavior as well when some sahaba were instructed to pour the cupping blood of the prophet (saw) in a hole and bury it?. What did sahabi do?. He drank the blood with intention of seeking baraka.

When he returned to the prophet (saw), he asked him what he did with the blood?. Sahabi said he drank it in order to seek his baraka. So nabi frawn at him and told him not to do that again.

When next nabi (saw) did hijama again and asked another sahabi to bury his blood far from the place, that sahabi also drank his blood but he told the prophet he buried it. Nabi reprimanded him and he confessed he drank it. Thereby the holy prophet (saw) smiled and faulted him not.

Sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Ashile(ra) said Hausa people are descendants of these type of sahaba by this virtue. It is weird but you can't do anything about it unfortunately. This is weird and too wild control.[/s]

Why would someone in his right state of mind climb a pole for barakah? What kind of pole is it by the way? Flag pole? Construction pole or what exactly?

Demmzy15:

Why would someone in his right state of mind climb a pole for barakah? What kind of pole is it by the way? Flag pole? Construction pole or what exactly?

Go and ask him

Empiree:
Go and ask him

K

Bashyr326:


Exactly.

No.. 2 things takes one to hell.. Sins and kufru.

Sins, one will later come out
But kufru, bidah, shirk will be in hell forever


And whoever died on sin is either met Mercy of Allah or punishment of Allah..

Demmzy15:

Why would someone in his right state of mind climb a pole for barakah? What kind of pole is it by the way? Flag pole? Construction pole or what exactly?

Street light pole! I wonder if they would hug transformer if they saw their sheikh on it! The love of their sheikh is enough to block electrocution!

SaeedIbnEesa:


No.. 2 things takes one to hell.. Sins and kufru.

Sins, one will later come out
But kufru, bidah, shirk will be in hell forever


And whoever died on sin is either met Mercy of Allah or punishment of Allah..

Lies! Eating with spoon is not kufr! Why is plumbing too not kufr? Which hadith says you should be a plumber?

The truth is that sins and bid'ia are both divided!

Some sins are greater than some bid'ia and vice versa! If you call people kaafir because they eat with spoon or celebrate Maolid but you refuse to call fornicators, gamblers and Riba takers same despite the verses on it.

May Allah guide all those on Jabata ideology!

Rashduct4luv:


Lies! Eating with spoon is not kufr! Why is plumbing too not kufr? Which hadith says you should be a plumber?

The truth is that sins and bid'ia are both divided!

Some sins are greater than some bid'ia and vice versa! If you call people kaafir because they eat with spoon or celebrate Maolid but you refuse to call fornicators, gamblers and Riba takers same despite the verses on it.

May Allah guide all those on Jabata ideology!

Laughing.. Kii waani awon alfa yin koyin gaaan o..

Where do i start explaining for you o...



OK.. Spoon.. Is innovation of the world. It's not halal nor haram..

Eating with 3 fingers is ibaadah.. Replacing 3 fingers with 1 or 2 or 4 or 5 or spoon or fork is bidah because it has gone against the deen..

Just like tesubah did.. Rosul uses his 5 fingers. Tesubah on it's Own is not halal or haram.. It became bidah because it's used to replace and ibaadah..








Plumbing is like another work.. It's halal..

Where it will because haram or kufru is when you cheat your customers or you go to church or shrine or any other kufru place to work for them... Respectively..


Shey you understand..







Sin is not in bidah...

How can a tashreey be a sin?

Whoever is committing sin will never say he's using That sin to worship Allah.. Once anyone said that, that person has made sin halal.. Thus such Person becomes a kafir..

And those people doing moulid will never accept from you that moulid is a sin or tesubah is a sin... They believe it's part of Islam.. Thereby they have made tashreey.. That's why it's kufru...


And Rosul said Kulu bidah dolala..

Kulu doesn't divide Mr Man

Blind lecturing blind

Empiree:
Blind lecturing blind

Laughing.. See this kufar o..


When you don't follow Kitab wa sunnah.. It's awon baba that you are following.

You won't understand

SaeedIbnEesa:



Laughing.. Kii waani awon alfa yin koyin gaaan o..

Where do i start explaining for you o...



OK.. Spoon.. Is innovation of the world. It's not halal nor haram..

Eating with 3 fingers is ibaadah.. Replacing 3 fingers with 1 or 2 or 4 or 5 or spoon or fork is bidah because it has gone against the deen..

Just like tesubah did.. Rosul uses his 5 fingers. Tesubah on it's Own is not halal or haram.. It became bidah because it's used to replace and ibaadah..








Plumbing is like another work.. It's halal..

Where it will because haram or kufru is when you cheat your customers or you go to church or shrine or any other kufru place to work for them... Respectively..


Shey you understand..







Sin is not in bidah...

How can a tashreey be a sin?

Whoever is committing sin will never say he's using That sin to worship Allah.. Once anyone said that, that person has made sin halal.. Thus such Person becomes a kafir..

And those people doing moulid will never accept from you that moulid is a sin or tesubah is a sin... They believe it's part of Islam.. Thereby they have made tashreey.. That's why it's kufru...


And Rosul said Kulu bidah dolala..

Kulu doesn't divide Mr Man

Error 404

Differentiate between Kufr and shirk!

Rashduct4luv:


Error 404

Differentiate between Kufr and shirk!

Tsw

since eating is ibadah according to mr boko haram , methods and materials used in preparing it should also be ibadah


so, mr boko haram , explain to us how food should be prepared according to the sunnah , so as to avoid shirk