murphyibiam15:

nurse Eliza Ka ïbü... ifere emezina gi... Ada... are you now denying what you spent some months to learn.. LMAO..

Why are you disturbing yourself?
I have told you that I don't even have a first school leaving certificate.
Dr malaria and typhoid specialist.

Amarabae:
Why are you disturbing yourself? I have told you that I don't even have a first school leaving certificate. Dr malaria and typhoid specialist.

nurse Eliza in parking feces and emptying urine

murphyibiam15:

nurse Eliza

Am sure the Small nurse Elizas you are messing around with in your private hospital is the reason for you shouting Eliza up and down.

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Dr malaria and typhoid.
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Your type are the ones that use Google to prescribe drugs.

Amarabae:

Am sure the Small nurse Elizas you are messing around with in your private hospital is the reason for you shouting Eliza up and down.

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Dr malaria and typhoid.
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Your type are the ones that use Google to prescribe drugs.

Hahahaha... imagine wasting my time with an Eliza nurse like you who obviously feels she's educated while she's a stack illiterate.... A nurse wanna-be... GTFO you illiterate thing

murphyibiam15:

Hahahaha... imagine wasting my time with an Eliza nurse like you who obviously feels she's educated

the fact that you always come back to reply my mention means that you are idle and maybe jobless.
How can a man have such time.
I don't have even primary school leaving certificate.
Are you happy now?
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This thread is now boring.

murphyibiam15:

Hahahaha... imagine wasting my time with an Eliza nurse like you who obviously feels she's educated while she's a stack illiterate.... A nurse wanna-be... GTFO you illiterate thing

pls leave d poor girl alone...... they say "silence is the best answer to a......... "

ultron12345:
pls leave d poor girl alone...... they say "silence is the best answer to a......... "

anyone who go through your posts will know that you have a problem.
Depression and loneliness is not good for you.
Seek for a professional help today.
Remember that post you complained about being timid and having no friends in school.
Poor boy

Amarabae:
anyone who go through your posts will know that you have a problem.
Depression and loneliness is not good for you.
Seek for a professional help today.
Remember that post you complained about being timid and having no friends in school.
Poor boy

silence is the best answer to a fool

Do you know that we are paid 5k as hazard allowance while university staff get 30k? What is their hazard?
We treated 2 cases of Ebola and 1 case of lassa fever without proper quarantine. One patient slumped at the reception. I myself have been infected on 3 different occasions.

Amarabae:

How is the demand for salary increment heartless?

Is it true? that Dr's are joining JOHESU to make the union complete. That would be great! So that all health workers will speak with one voice.

yanabasee:
Amongst other issues.....striking on the bases of increment of salary scale is heartless.....




Miss funmiseryqueen, increment of salaries will definitely affect the government's budget and purse!!

It would have been meaningful if they had strike for allowance over a certain thing...

You don't just expect the government to keep increasing salaries when the government income from taxes is either reducing or stagnant...

If the government impose high levy taxes to private sector to meet up with the demand of salaries, I'm sure you'll be the first to kick against it...


I hope you're aware that the 2018 budget estimate is likely to run into N8.612trillion which is 16% higher than 2017budget!! If the budget keeps increasing every year....and the government is forced to borrow to back the budget up...who will pay those debts off?

eliminate the problem at its grassroot and jail politicians that steal. simple.
the issue is not the striking, but the government would talk to the striking Union, make promises to pay, then renegade on their promises, or tge government wont answer them at all until hunger makes them go to work. but when they strike again,it is still for the same issue that government ignored

funmisticqueen:
eliminate the problem at its grassroot and jail politicians that steal. simple.
the issue is not the striking, but the government would talk to the striking Union, make promises to pay, then renegade on their promises, or tge government wont answer them at all until hunger makes them go to work. but when they strike again,it is still for the same issue that government ignored

They didn't strike because they were owed! So hunger can't drive them to work!!!


If the govt decides to increase the health sector's salary what abt other sectors? Every body will now demand for more increment.....


The solution isn't even to jail corrupt people....

The solution is the constitution!!! If properly managed .....things will change....

Another consideration is signing laws that will shape the reasoning of the people and not to pamper them!


Increment of salary on a country where economic value is nullified and has no foundations!!!

Amarabae:
the fact that you always come back to reply my mention means that you are idle and maybe jobless.
How can a man have such time.
I don't have even primary school leaving certificate.
Are you happy now?
.

This thread is now boring.

Eliza nurse... I have been working since that's why I haven't even replied you to show you how busy I'm am this retarrded Illiterate... may be next time to reply you will be much more later due to busy schedule... if you have nothing doing yet find your hubby's prick and suck

mercifull:
Is it true? that Dr's are joining JOHESU to make the union complete. That would be great! So that all health workers will speak with one voice.

whether they join or not is not the issue.
We need each other in the health sector.
Karma is real, doctors in Nigeria are earning peanut compared to doctors who leave the country for Europe,
They have been demanding for better treatment by the government which I have no issue with.
But I don't understand why their N.M.A is anti johesu in nature,
They work underground to fight against our interest,
It's wrong.

He that holds a person down at the ground holds himself.

What is needed now is a strong solidarity between N.M.A and johesu.

Why will you come online to rubbish your boss when you know you will still call him sir at your place of work, even when he doesn't ask you to do so.
You can only hate him but you won't want to let him know.
Doctors are not the cause of your problems dear, he is not your employer.
Snitching at work place is a sign of sub-optimal or low self-esteem.

Wise words.

Need ambulance to move your love ones to any part of the country, look no further...

Check my signature

ultron12345:
Good riddance. The government should just make sure they leave the keys to the labs, pharmacy and stores. Once that is done, no one will even notice their absence. The pathologist will do a better job than the lab scientist, the radiologist will takeover the radiographer, 300 level medical students can take over nurses and anyone that can read can dispense drugs, even 100lvl medical students can be posted to d pharmacy to b supervised by a more senior medical student, at least to get a feel of the hospital environment.

Useless people. They should understanf that there is no shortcut in life, if u want to earn and be treated like doctors, then take the next jamb form. Rubbish.

Keep quiet there. What was your JAMB score? Why do you think you are superior? You just come here to rant about JAMB scores always. Let me end it with you that you or your lots can't do beyond what you were trained for because you will end up confused and stupid.
The basis for JOHESU agitation is solid. Keep your shallow and biased mind out of it.

effty:
Keep quiet there. What was your JAMB score? Why do you think you are superior? You just come here to rant about JAMB score always. Let me end it with you that you or your lots can't do beyond what you were trained for because you will end up confused and stupid.
The basis for JOHESU agitation is solid. Keep your shallow and biased mind out of it.

let me advise u, it's never too late to study medicine. There is no shortcut in life. Better go and pick a jamb form and study hard. Cheers

ultron12345:
let me advise u, it's never too late to study medicine. There is no shortcut in life. Better go and pick a jamb form and study hard. Cheers

I know it will come to that because anyone with a contrary opinion is seeking for a shortcut, because of that, I will dance on your head first. I am a practising marine engineer who is far better than you intellectually and otherwise except your stupidity. I read through issues without sentiments and I try to see it from all perspectives.
I saw one of your post where you were castigating those aspiring to be consultants in their own fields. Is that not a slight on your so-called education? Even if you don't travel further that the borders of Nigeria, you should lend yourself a period of study to know how things work outside. Instead, all I can see is a plain display of stupidity clothed in shallowness and sheer arrogance. To think that every nurse is an "Eliza" is most derogatory when I was almost murdered by one of the malaria and typhoid specialist made complete with fake drugs.
Are there no consultant nurses or consultant in other fields? Why would a body's agitation for better working conditions be sabotaged by another body? Is it because of the pay or what? Why don't you allow other row their boats? Why are you concerned with JOHESU's attempt to make a case for its members.
I guess I know the jealous ones now.

Amarabae:
whether they join or not is not the issue.
We need each other in the health sector.
Karma is real, doctors in Nigeria are earning peanut compared to doctors who leave the country for Europe,
They have been demanding for better treatment by the government which I have no issue with.
But I don't understand why their N.M.A is anti johesu in nature,
They work underground to fight against our interest,
It's wrong.

He that holds a person down at the ground holds himself.

What is needed now is a strong solidarity between N.M.A and johesu.

pls pls, we dnt need u biko..

leave NMA alone

follow ur Johesu and be well, fight ur battle alone..

I know very soon govt will force u guys to leave lab and office keys, right there sharp sharp medics will take over, medical student wont fail to help senior doctors to carry out the job in ur absense..

and wen I go on strike, tell govt to get my office keys, lets see if u can function in any consulting room ..yan yan yan.

beside, pls how much u dey earn self wey make consultant dey reapect u according to ur old post...

lol....

consultant amara.

lol..

I need your help guys. I have been diagnosed with pulmonary tuberculosis based on my chest X-ray result.
At the T. B center, I was given a container to collect my sputum for sputum test. But the major problem, I have now is that when I cough I don't normally bring out sputum.
How do I induce myself, to produce sputum.
Advice urgently needed

JOHESU is fighting a worthy cause and the Union will surely succeed. Industrial action is the only solution having got a lot of court injunctions favouring most of their demands. Enough is enough.

Can someone tell me, Are doctors on strike too? All our health facilities are totally dried and functionless, doctors come late to work as usual (as at 8:00am, no office is opened.). Patients are helplessly waiting to see..... not you, but doctors, who couldn't professionally open case note, nor put financial records properly. They, the doctors, could not properly diagnose the patient because they are novice in the laboratory experiments, where they want to head at all cost. For truthful Evidence, you can go to all our tertiary hospitals throughout Nigeria at the moment, you will see disoriented, minute and insignificant (as far as health service delivery is concerned) working with least very low, if any enthusiasm. The Stone that the builders rejected has become the Chief Corner Stone. Let me tell you, These doctors are already discharging our patients to go and die at home. Why?
1. They don't know how to give them drugs.
2. They can't stay with them and care for them.
3. Even out patients are not enjoying their services and thus already looking for alternatives even with traditionalist. All these is because Real Health Workers are on Strike. You know what, doctors are happy because we are on Strike, Reason:
1. They will run away from office. Govt agent should investigate from now on.
2. The Call duty they claim to be doing and collecting its huge allowance for, don't be surprised you won't find them doing it.
3. Instead of staying in the office, you will see them going around their usual private businesses (hospitals, clinic and Pharmacy stores). Govt should prove it. These and many more.

danilmo:


pls pls, we dnt need u biko..

leave NMA alone

follow ur Johesu and be well, fight ur battle alone..

I know very soon govt will force u guys to leave lab and office keys, right there sharp sharp medics will take over, medical student wont fail to help senior doctors to carry out the job in ur absense..

and wen I go on strike, tell govt to get my office keys, lets see if u can function in any consulting room ..yan yan yan.

beside, pls how much u dey earn self wey make consultant dey reapect u according to ur old post...

lol....

consultant amara.

lol..

It is really disheartening to read such comments with myopic undertone coming from a supposedly educated individual-a medic. I am not a member of JOHESU but I expect Nigerian doctors to lead by example, what do you gain by suppressing others? I don't know if you have ever been outside the shores of this country to see how things are done, it would change your mentality about others. I work in a multi-professional team/firm (Drs, nurses, pharmacists, engineers, lab scientist, computer scientist, radiographers, seafarers of different fields and nationals) yet we don't have this kind of disharmony. By God's grace we have been sent on courses and have seen what is obtainable in other climes, I just wish the young Nigerian doctors would both be educated and enlightened and not toe the line of their older counterparts.

slimany:
Can someone tell me, Are doctors on strike too? All our health facilities are totally dried and functionless, doctors come late to work as usual (as at 8:00am, no office is opened.). Patients are helplessly waiting to see..... not you, but doctors, who couldn't professionally open case note, nor put financial records properly. They, the doctors, could not properly diagnose the patient because they are novice in the laboratory experiments, where they want to head at all cost. For truthful Evidence, you can go to all our tertiary hospitals throughout Nigeria at the moment, you will see disoriented, minute and insignificant (as far as health service delivery is concerned) working with least very low, if any enthusiasm. The Stone that the builders rejected has become the Chief Corner Stone. Let me tell you, These doctors are already discharging our patients to go and die at home. Why?
1. They don't know how to give them drugs.
2. They can't stay with them and care for them.
3. Even out patients are not enjoying their services and thus already looking for alternatives even with traditionalist. All these is because Real Health Workers are on Strike. You know what, doctors are happy because we are on Strike, Reason:
1. They will run away from office. Govt agent should investigate from now on.
2. The Call duty they claim to be doing and collecting its huge allowance for, don't be surprised you won't find them doing it.
3. Instead of staying in the office, you will see them going around their usual private businesses (hospitals, clinic and Pharmacy stores). Govt should prove it. These and many more.

an empty head johesuite spotted , trying hard to say odd against doctor..

lol..
oya na, we hear u, u sabi pass doctor.. is that not what u wana hear,keep fooling urself..lol

am sure amarabae go follow like that ur post ...

pained beings...

Pls cry me more river, if u wont mind, cry ocean..


he say patient are now looking for the real people, (u mean johesuite shey) ..oda..lool...

one day govt will force u guys to leave the office keys., keep fooling urself while we take over our place(hospital)..

AlphaT1:

It is really disheartening to read such comments with myopic undertone coming from a supposedly educated individual-a medic. I am not a member of JOHESU but I expect Nigerian doctors to lead by example, what do you gain by suppressing others? I don't know if you have ever been outside the shores of this country to see how things are done, it would change your mentality about others. I work in a multi-professional team/firm (Drs, nurses, pharmacists, engineers, lab scientist, computer scientist, radiographers, seafarers of different fields and nationals) yet we don't have this kind of disharmony. By God's grace we have been sent on courses and have seen what is obtainable in other climes, I just wish the young Nigerian doctors would both be educated and enlightened and not toe the line of their older counterparts.

my bro, loved the way u addressed this

the thing is that this country is a bleeped up country from the scratch, down.to the student, non medic just hate medics for reason best known to them.

I was pained this evening wen I choose to read in a nursing hostel library. and i was told non nursing aren't allowed, I asked what about medic, they said yes especially medical student ...
( electrical transformer supplying medical hostel environment got burnt yesterday) ..

me with my innocent mind now already carry the revenge taught,

and the cycle continue like that... till hospital ..

u see the funny stunt eating.us.deep...


nigeria factor, everyone is bleeped up and our blood is already hot to do me I do u things not only in health system. every where just that health is a matter of life makes it so obvious to all..

all thesame, am a calm guy who respect others sha o but the calmness is just getting bleeped up

danilmo:


my bro, loved the way u addressed this

the thing is that this country is a bleeped up country from the scratch, down.to the student, non medic just hate medics for reason best known to them.

I was pained this evening wen I choose to read in a nursing hostel library. and i was told non nursing aren't allowed, I asked what about medic, they said yes especially medical student ...
( electrical transformer supplying medical hostel environment got burnt yesterday) ..

me with my innocent mind now already carry the revenge taught,

and the cycle continue like that... till hospital ..

u see the funny stunt eating.us.deep...


nigeria factor, everyone is bleeped up and our blood is already hot to do me I do u things not only in health system. every where just that health is a matter of life makes it so obvious to all..

all thesame, am a calm guy who respect others sha o but the calmness is just getting bleeped up

I understand, Nigeria really needs help. If things were better, I believe the situation with medical workers also would have been different.
All the best though.

I pray o don't ever fall sick in this country, imagine the average of the average Nigerian health worker, no passion, no dedication, no sacrifice or even professionalism, it's all about who'll earn more and who'll answer title, even sloths that are too lazy to learn any new thing are concerned about who's higher than who.

Since the current health workers strike in Nigeria, all the stake holders has been citing international best practices. The doctors under NMA and all other health workers under JOHESU has been at log ahead.
Both groups has been dishing out propaganda to the media. The doctors has claimed that they control all other departments and their services are at the doctors' beck and call, but JOHESU insists that the assumption is wrong. Doctors lack training and competence in some of these areas e.g physiotherapy/
medical rehabilitation. They are doctors too, they assess, treat, rehabilitate and discharge with all diagnostic imaging and lab tests privileges. Optometrists too are doctors both by operations and designation, they have spent 6yrs in medical school yet NMA said they are just support staff.
Nonetheless, JOHESU Leadership has come out to accuse the NMA doctors of ignorance, greediness and myopic thinking. Dr. Adewole the current Minister for Health has been proven wrong in regard to international best practices.
There could be bias from the Ministers. Today, both the minister of labour, senior and junior ministers of health are NMA doctors so the JOHESU strike that has paralyzed the health sector is rather a thing of politics for the ministers. You often see them on TV interviews double speaking. There is no gainsaying that NMA has colonized and made their birth right the offices of:
a) minister for health
b) minister of state for health
c) CMDs of all secondary and tertiary hospitals
d) Deputy CMDs
e) CMACs
f) directors of 90% of all parastaltas and health related agencies
g) the list is endless
NMA said the reason for coveting these offices is because other health workers are not "medically qualified" even though they all finished from the same college of medicine; took same or similar causes together or as separate departments.
Let's look at the so called international best practices. Lets look at the ministers of health of following countries:
1. France minister of health
Morisol Touraine.
She is not a degree holder. Studied At Ecole Normale Supereure and specialized in Economics and social issues.
2. Germany minister of health
Jens Spahn.
Studied Political science and Law at University of Hagen.
3. Saudi Arabia minister of health.
Dr. Tawfiq Al Ravish.
Obtain bachelor degree in Financial management and Mathematics, then 2 masters in computer science and information science.
4. Israel minister of health.
Yaakov Litzman.
Studied Torah and his first job was principal of Yaakov Girls school and then join politics.
5. Spain minister of health, social, security and Equality.
Dolors Montserrat.
A Lawyer and politician. She specialized in Real Estate and Environmental Law.
6. India minister of health
Jagat Prakash Nadda.
He a graduate of Law at Himachal Prakash.
7. Canada minister of health
Genette Petitpas Taylor.
She has bachelor degree in Social work.
Non of the above ministers study medicine and they are health ministers of their countries. Yet Isaac Adewole and NMA are saying our ministry of health institutions most be headed by medical doctors, ie. the international best practice.
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slimany:
Can someone tell me, Are doctors on strike too? All our health facilities are totally dried and functionless, doctors come late to work as usual (as at 8:00am, no office is opened.). Patients are helplessly waiting to see..... not you, but doctors, who couldn't professionally open case note, nor put financial records properly. They, the doctors, could not properly diagnose the patient because they are novice in the laboratory experiments, where they want to head at all cost. For truthful Evidence, you can go to all our tertiary hospitals throughout Nigeria at the moment, you will see disoriented, minute and insignificant (as far as health service delivery is concerned) working with least very low, if any enthusiasm. The Stone that the builders rejected has become the Chief Corner Stone. Let me tell you, These doctors are already discharging our patients to go and die at home. Why?
1. They don't know how to give them drugs.
2. They can't stay with them and care for them.
3. Even out patients are not enjoying their services and thus already looking for alternatives even with traditionalist. All these is because Real Health Workers are on Strike. You know what, doctors are happy because we are on Strike, Reason:
1. They will run away from office. Govt agent should investigate from now on.
2. The Call duty they claim to be doing and collecting its huge allowance for, don't be surprised you won't find them doing it.
3. Instead of staying in the office, you will see them going around their usual private businesses (hospitals, clinic and Pharmacy stores). Govt should prove it. These and many more.

All you said here is 100 percent fact. The physicians who claim to be on duty have all discharged the patients and ran away to their private clinics. The hospitals are on lockdown from UNTH to NAUTH to National hospital Abuja down to OAUTH. But do you know what NMA is doing? they are releasing misleading press statements and sponsoring some hungry media persons to claim the 'hospitals are working' in order to water down JOHESU's real influence. Laughable!

They are releasing lies as press statements in the comfort of their private clinics.
Technically 'they've joined the strike by default cos they can't help it.

JOHESU is more than ever resolute to get it's rightful dues. Let's see who blinks first.

phase1:


All you said here is 100 percent fact. The physicians who claim to be on duty have all discharged the patients and ran away to their private clinics. The hospitals are on lockdown from UNTH to NAUTH to National hospital Abuja down to OAUTH. But do you know what NMA is doing? they are releasing misleading press statements and sponsoring some hungry media persons to claim the 'hospitals are working' in order to water down JOHESU's real influence. Laughable!

They are releasing lies as press statements in the comfort of their private clinics.
Technically 'they've joined the strike by default cos they can't help it.

JOHESU is more than ever resolute to get it's rightful dues. Let's see who blinks first.

MEDICAL DOCTORS ARE POMPOUS AND UNCIVILIZED

Obadiah Umaru

The last time NMA went on strike, Nigerians from all works of life pressed on government to look into their issues so that our hospitals will continue to offer services to Nigerians

Today, the hospitals are again shut down due to JOHESU strike and unthinkably, NMA have been the most vocal, not in to quell the impasse but to fuel it. They are insisting that government should not listen to, or meet the demands of, JOHESU. Their reason for the meddlesomeness in the many press releases and media engagement is to keep wide the gap of earned allowance between them and other health professionals. This is selfishness and greed.

I ceased to regard any medical doctor since I took my ailing mother to the hospital in the early 2009 and got disgusting and irresponsible treat from a consultant. He attended to my mum then wrote drugs for us to buy. I asked what he was treating, he said he was suspecting septicaemia so we should try so and so antibiotics. I told him it sounds like guess work. He kept quiet. I requested if we could be sure of what were are treating, he picked offence and started shouting. Demanding to know if I wanted to teach him his work. I said I was the customer/client here and I should be the king. He said the only king in the hospital is the doctor. He was a young man so I thought it was untamed exuberance. While I was on the matter, a nurse came and over heard us, inadvertently, she asked if we has done lab test. The aggression with which the consultant shouted her down was marvelling. I wondered for a minute if it was his private hospital but I knew I was in a public hospital where all were employees of government. I asked why he addressed his colleague in that manner but he told me that the nurses and pharmacists were subservient to him. He told me how much he was earning and how much pharmacists earned, using it to justify his status. I was shocked.

I switched back to the prescription he had written and asked if we could be sent to the lab, he opposed it,saying that the most arrogant people in the hospital were the lab people. I asked how, he said, they have arrogated a title of scientists to themselves and don't want to work under pathologists. I was shocked as what that got to do with my mum's lab test. Within my 10min of being with him, he had skinned the nurses, the pharmacy and the lab alive. Then I knew the doctors were the real problems.

In summary, he insisted on treating without lab test. I was angry and left also without his prescription. I took my mum to a private laboratory and explained my situation. The lab tests showed leukemia and my elder brother in UK had to arrange for mum to undergo treatment abroad

Since then, I have followed keenly the disregard end humiliation that the doctors treat other health workers in Nigeria with the passive support of health ministers and commissioners. They often go the side of NMA during industrial disputes by quickly responding to demands of doctors and speaking English on demands others health workers.

I think the duration of study for doctors is only one year extra to pharmacists, lab scientists etc, yet they earn two times more than the non-doctors upon entering public service. Why is this so? Only doctors are heading hospitals and ministries of health in Nigeria. Why? This is not the case in other countries on Europe and Asia. Even the current DG of WHO is not a medical doctor. Where did the Nigerian medical doctor got his ego from to hold other health professionals in perpetual captivity? I call on JOHESU to break these ancient chains of slavery and emancipate themselves and our health system in Nigeria. The health system under ineptitude of medical doctors keeps recording abysmal indices year in year out to the extent that our President cannot find one health facility to treat ordinary ear infection.

I urge President Buhari to immediately sack the minister of health in view of his recent irresponsible comments on this ongoing strike. It is a pitiable anticlimax in our civilization

Lastly, the curriculum of MBBS should be reviewed to include civic education for would-be medical doctors in Nigeria. Their incivility is the cause of industrial unrest in the health system in Nigeria today.
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