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Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Gbawe: 10:57am On May 15, 2010
Now this is more like it. OBJ and Yar Adua , because of gross corruption and vested interests, refused to contemplate the idea of States being allowed to distribute energy they generate through IPPs .  This is a welcome move by Jonathan if eventually actualised. Jonathan's only chance of continuing as President , beyond 2011, is for him to perform well enough for even sceptical Northerners to be won over. The Northern powerbrokers realise this and they will do everything to ensure that Jonathan's efforts amount to nothing.


http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/news/1058-states-will-soon-distribute-power-goodluck.html


States Will Soon Distribute Power - Goodluck

Written by Bolaji Ogundele, Port Harcourt

States and other interests involved in power generation in the country would soon be enabled to build their own distribution networks, President Goodluck Jonathan has assured.

President Jonathan, speaking while commissioning the 100 megawatts power station at Trans-Amadi, Port Harcourt, on Friday, expressed the opinion that generating power without capacity to get such to the end users was futile.

He, however, promised to get on sorting the situation out.

Responding to a request put to him by the Rivers State governor, Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi, the president said as soon as he returned to Abuja, he was going to get the Minister of State on Power, Malam Nuhu Somo-Wya, to see to setting the machinery for distribution enablement going.

“Immediately we get to Abuja, I will tell the Minister of Power to set up the machinery that will ensure that the power generated is distributed, this is because there is no point generating power when you can’t distribute it. It doesn’t matter who generates power or who distributes it, government is government.

“We must reduce bureaucracy if we must achieve our aim of enjoying regular power supply. We will reduce the bureaucracy and other outstanding legal issues in order to allow power generated to get to the people,” President Jonathan said.


The president commended the state governor for his efforts at making life easy for the people of the state, especially in the area of power.

Earlier, after conducting the president round the power facility, Amaechi re-echoed calls to the Federal Government to untangle the entire power sector by giving states and other investors in power generation licence to build their own distribution networks.

According to him, this is the only way the efforts of government on the power sector could be seen and appreciated round the country.

After inaugurating the power station, the president headed to the Oil and Gas Free Zone at Onne where he inaugurating some port facilities.

After performing the tasks at the Onne Port, the president observed that the Private Public Partnership (PPP) was yielding desired results in the country, saying that his administration would encourage genuine investors in the country.

He  commended the Rivers State governor for providing the enabling environment in the state for businesses to flourish.

Afterwards, the  President moved on from the Onne Port to the Sharks Stadium in Port Harcourt where a mammoth from the state and other states of the region were waiting to host him to a grand reception.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by deor03(m): 11:20am On May 15, 2010
Perfect,

This is the best and fastest solution to Power problems in Nigeria
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by 9ijaprince(m): 11:40am On May 15, 2010
Yes indeed this will go a long way in solving power solution in nigeria. But that reminds me, what happened to lagos enron project?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by vigasimple(m): 11:40am On May 15, 2010
Very well overdue.

Let me break it down.  Nigeria requires about 50,000mw of electricity. we have 36 states/787 local govt.

50,000mw divided by 36 =  1400mw approx, if they build 60mw per month, each state will complete it in 24months

50,000mw divided by 787 = 64mw per each local govt, again if they build about 3mw every month , they will do it in 24 months.

check out  www.nigeriansforsuperenergy.com   to see what is possible if we put our minds to it.

Good luck to Nigeria if Goodluck Jonathan has seen the light
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by auwal87(m): 11:42am On May 15, 2010
Only if the states have been successful in distributing water, the move would have been a perfect one.

I am not against it though.

Wishing Goodluck a very good luck.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Nobody: 11:46am On May 15, 2010
Gbawe

I don't think your comment on OBJ is fair at all. The good project started by OBJ was not continued by Yar'adua. The Yar'adua men spent more time trying to nail OBJ than finding solutions for power problems.

Keep in mind some of the good things Jonathan is doing right now is fastforwarding the process of transporting energy plants from the seaport to sites where they are needed urgently. These Energy plants were not imported by the Yar'adua boys, OBJ did.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Gbawe: 12:15pm On May 15, 2010
mikeansy:

Gbawe

I don't think your comment on OBJ is fair at all. The good project started by OBJ was not continued by Yar'adua. The Yar'adua men spent more time trying to nail OBJ than finding solutions for power problems.

Keep in mind some of the good things Jonathan is doing right now is fastforwarding the process of transporting energy plants from the seaport to sites where they are needed urgently. These Energy plants were not imported by the Yar'adua boys, OBJ did.

I am actually being kind to OBJ !!! I try to be fair and objective always regardless of who is involved. OBJ's main problem was that he wanted  , along with his cronies, to be involved in everything , including things they know absolutely nothing about,  so that they can loot Nigeria while pretending to be "solving problems". Please go and read the findings of the probe panel on the NIPP scheme (National integrated power project) inaugurated by the OBJ Government . You will see that it is one big 41.9 con job that gave contracts to start-up companies   shocked shocked shocked shocked(owned by OBJ's cronies and family to include Iyabo) with nada experience in the power sector.  shocked shocked shocked shocked

Abeg don't come and plead OBJ's case . I know the power sector fairly well because I recognise its importance to Nigeria's growth and progress.  I know what OBJ did . If he was serious about power he should have removed his own thieving and incompetent hands first. He did the same for the telecoms sector so why not likewise for the power sector ? Instead OBJ used Imoke, Agagu , Iyabo and others to perpetrate a blantant and shameless self-aggrandizing scam with the NIPP scheme . Any decent President will actually allow the competent, experienced , tried and tested private sector more leverage in our power generation effort. A decent President , desirous of genuine progress for Nigeria, will not hand out power sector contract to his politician daughter and cronies who little or next to no knowledge of power Generation !!!!!

OBJ would not consider what Jonathan is now suggesting simply because it would mean that FG involvement , and thus the chance to steal billions, will be seriously reduced !!! Let States distribute their own power !!! Simple !!! It is the next logical step in the development of our power sector. Anyone who stands against this (like OBJ and Yar Adua) are enemies of Nigeria with their own agenda and vested interest.

Profiting grossly from Nigeria, using executive power , was something OBJ became very good at . Wether it was TRANSCORP or concessioning our valuable steel works and refineries to his cronies for pittance , OBJ was always ready to make a killing at the expense of Nigeria under pseudo 'development' schemes that turn out to be crudely contrived shams designed to massively enrich him and his cronies.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by rickie4us(m): 12:54pm On May 15, 2010
all I hope for is that whatever decisions are made will result into the much desired "power" that we have been yearning for
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by marvix(m): 1:15pm On May 15, 2010
Quote frm gbawe
OBJ's main problem was that he wanted  , along with his cronies, to be involved in everything , including things they know absolutely nothing about,  so that they can loot Nigeria while pretending to be "solving problems". Please go and read the findings of the probe panel on the NIPP scheme (National integrated power project) inaugurated by the OBJ Government . You will see that it is one big 41.9 con job that gave contracts to start-up companies   (owned by OBJ's cronies and family to include Iyabo) with nada experience in the power sector. 




This was wat Yaradua discovered nd withdrew his emergency declaration nd instead asked 4 an audit, most of d impropriety hav bin resolved nd dat is y Jonathan is able to move in nd take decisive actions, Yaradua is just like a silent midfielder nd playmaker who gives d right passes but most times we only rememba d goal scorers, wld it hav bin possible 4 amaechi 2 build nd commission d project if d hostilities in d ND were escalatin. Pls Obj took us 4 a ride wateva it seemed he gave us with his right hand he sure took double with his left hand.

Yaradua was a great president who meant well for d nation, or can anyone point 2 his personal farm, University or even his personal house, the man was simply not corrupt nd wanted 2 mak sure dat in a bid to solve d problems he does not compound them unlike Obj.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Nobody: 1:41pm On May 15, 2010
Marvix

I don't want to be rude but your assessment of Yar'adua's role in the power issue is better of told to 2year olds.

After 3 years of audit and probe or whatever they called it. The product is what? Jonathan's promise to decentralise the generation and retail of power? Well all experts have been calling for that even before Yar'adua came to office and never required 3years of probe to realise that is what we need to do.

The probe was simply instituted to malign the person of OBJ and it failed woefully.

After 3years of probing, they produced an idea we already knew about while Energy plants were languishing at the ports. No matter how u try to coat or sweeten it. Yar'adua's energy policy was a failure.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by ADint(m): 2:00pm On May 15, 2010
vigasimple:

Very well overdue.

Let me break it down.  Nigeria requires about 50,000mw of electricity. we have 36 states/787 local govt.

50,000mw divided by 36 =  1400mw approx, if they build 60mw per month, each state will complete it in 24months

50,000mw divided by 787 = 64mw per each local govt, again if they build about 3mw every month , they will do it in 24 months.

check out  www.nigeriansforsuperenergy.com   to see what is possible if we put our minds to it.

Good luck to Nigeria if Goodluck Jonathan has seen the light


Good idea! Although it will take a good many months to build a 60MW power plant.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by edoyad(m): 2:02pm On May 15, 2010
I think this is a wonderful idea. While serving in minna i was really unimpressed by the constant black outs, i know for a fact the govt house would go for hours everyday on gen. The absurd thing is that Niger state has got shiroro and Kainji dams which are probably two of Africas most impressive hydro plants. I never went to any of them but corp members who visited shiroro said you'd be awed at the magnificence of the edifice. And that's the irony of Nigeria all over, crude oil but no petrol, dams but no electricity, land but no rail roads. I'm beginning to think we all have a bit of cabal in all of us.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by nduchucks: 2:15pm On May 15, 2010
This is a very bad idea. Governments are not known to run businesses efficiently. Power distribution should be handled by profit motivated corporations who will safeguard the assets and run the system efficiently.

What GJ needs to do is to sell the distribution assets to corporations (preferably joint ventures - proven US/UK/China distribution companies with Nigerian partners) and let them run the distribution system.

Governments, whether state of federal are incapable of running the distribution system efficiently.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by beystwin: 2:38pm On May 15, 2010
ndu_chucks:

This is a very bad idea. Governments are not known to run businesses efficiently. [b]Power distribution should be handled by profit motivated corporations who will safeguard the assets and run the system efficiently.

What GJ needs to do is to sell the distribution assets to corporations (preferably joint ventures - proven US/UK/China distribution companies with Nigerian partners) and let them run the distribution system.[/b]Governments, whether state of federal are incapable of running the distribution system efficiently.

true talk.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by kettykings: 2:42pm On May 15, 2010
Another attempt to pass the buck to states will not work , what has state governments ever managed well , also how about states without coal , gas and dammed water
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by vigasimple(m): 2:47pm On May 15, 2010
ndu_chucks:

This is a very bad idea. Governments are not known to run businesses efficiently. Power distribution should be handled by profit motivated corporations who will safeguard the assets and run the system efficiently.

What GJ needs to do is to sell the distribution assets to corporations (preferably joint ventures - proven US/UK/China distribution companies with Nigerian partners) and let them run the distribution system.

Governments, whether state of federal are incapable of running the distribution system efficiently.

I agree with you 100%. The only business of the govt is to provide enabling enivioment like legislation and regulation like the Telecom.

Govt has never been succeeful in doing anything good with running any business, because there is no profit motivation, it is always free money.

kettykings:

Another attempt to pass the buck to states will not work , what has state governments ever managed well , also how about states without coal , gas and dammed water

We are talking about decentralisation BUT not govt running business, otherwise it will be a non starter, govt has no business in business
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by blacksta(m): 3:22pm On May 15, 2010
Talk is cheap and Nigerians are the most easily deceived  people on earth. At the entry of every new president big speeches are made but in the end nothing comes out of it.  Mr GJ inaugurated ministers roughly 3 months ago and promised immediate blueprints for each ministries till today as usual nothing.  Please learn to manage your expectations - it is business as usual for Mr GJ and his cronies  - at the end of 11 months we will back to square one.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by edoyad(m): 3:35pm On May 15, 2010
Go and check any real economy in this world and tell me where provision of such essential services like water, light, health, telcom and transport is left entirely in the hands of the private sector. By decentralising power generation serious minded states like lagos that already have a plan on what they want to do will be able to carry out their industrialisation process without being buoyed down by other parts of the country that are clueless and depend on the center for everything.
About the telecoms sector, that to me is even an embarrassment. Nigeria is one of the few countries in the world where organisations leave mobile phone nos as contact nos. Do we even have 911 or 991 ?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Gbawe: 4:10pm On May 15, 2010
ndu_chucks:

This is a very bad idea. Governments are not known to run businesses efficiently. Power distribution should be handled by profit motivated corporations who will safeguard the assets and run the system efficiently.

What GJ needs to do is to sell the distribution assets to corporations (preferably joint ventures - proven US/UK/China distribution companies with Nigerian partners) and let them run the distribution system.

Governments, whether state of federal are incapable of running the distribution system efficiently.

We are not a united Country , regardless of what anyone says , and a President who will be successful will understand this.  Why are progressive individuals and leaders from every region of Nigeria agitating for "true federalism" today? Why has Babangida jumped on the bandwagon by stating recently that he would move towards securing "true federalism" for Nigeria? I think it is because everyone recognise that Nigeria will probably never work until states and regions have more freedom to develop at their own pace. States have different challenges and they should not have to face their unique challenges with the unwieldy "one size fit all" inneffective solutions laid down by the Federal Government.

Regardless of corruption , most States would probably secure minimally acceptable power supply for citizens if they are allowed to generate and distribute their own power. States like Lagos are already very adept at deploying PPP (private-public-partnership) effectively . If allowed to distribute their own power I would bet that Fashola would not inaugurate an unwieldy and uneccesarily bureaucratic State-owned distribution entity that would waste more time and money while achieving nothing .  He would simply deploy experienced International power sector giants to design and implement a cohesive , integrated and modular power plan that allows for future tweaks and expansion. Jonathan's initiative is a step in the right direction because we have to understand that some States have Generation and distribution challenges . States can already generate power but they cannot distribute it. Allowing them to distribute power means that serious States move closer to controlling the pace of their own development.

Remember also that Jonathan does not have much time for grandiose schemes that will have little impact in the next few months and may be abrogated if a new man takes charge . He must impress in a short while. Jonathan is no fool. He will be aware that some IPP's currently exist that are not in use because of distribution issues. He will reason that if States are allowed to distribute we may see some of these IPP's add appreciable power to the grid before the end of the year . Who will then be looking Good(luck) ?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Kobojunkie: 4:16pm On May 15, 2010
edoyad:

Go and check any real economy in this world and tell me where provision of such essential services like water, light, health, telcom and transport is left entirely in the hands of the private sector. By decentralising power generation serious minded states like lagos that already have a plan on what they want to do will be able to carry out their industrialisation process without being buoyed down by other parts of the country that are clueless and depend on the center for everything. 


auwal87:

Only if the states have been successful in distributing water, the move would have been a perfect one.

ndu_chucks:

This is a very bad idea. Governments are not known to run businesses efficiently. Power distribution should be handled by profit motivated corporations who will safeguard the assets and run the system efficiently.
What GJ needs to do is to sell the distribution assets to corporations (preferably joint ventures - proven US/UK/China distribution companies with Nigerian partners) and let them run the distribution system.

Governments, whether state of federal are incapable of running the distribution system efficiently.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Gbawe: 4:23pm On May 15, 2010
kettykings:

Another attempt to pass the buck to states will not work , what has state governments ever managed well , also how about states without coal , gas and dammed water

Well , some of the Gas used in the UK travel 1000's of kilometres from Russia so the argument is not at all valid that a State has to possess fuel before it can develop a fuel-dependent IPP.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Gbawe: 5:04pm On May 15, 2010
blacksta:

Talk is cheap and Nigerians are the most easily deceived people on earth. At the entry of every new president big speeches are made but in the end nothing comes out of it. Mr GJ inaugurated ministers roughly 3 months ago and promised immediate blueprints for each ministries till today as usual nothing. Please learn to manage your expectations - it is business as usual for Mr GJ and his cronies - at the end of 11 months we will back to square one.

Blacksta , I hear you but we must give credit where it is due. What Jonathan has come out to say is encouraging . It is left for Nigerians to hold the President to his word. It is instructive to note that selected Nigerian President never talk about certain things because they are usually told by their Kingmakers that those things are off limit and must be left as they are. Virtually every Nigerian (to include Governors like Fashola, Uduaghan, Ameachi et al) have asked for more autonomy for States as regards the power sector. Yet successive selected Presidents (OBJ and Yar Adua) have never even bothered to comment on the needs to decentralise the FG's grossly incompetent and totally corrupt control of the power sector.

I am sure that OBJ and Yar Adua , like Jonathan, knew what had to be done also. It is just that , of the trio, Jonathan is in a position where he is more desperate to impress in the shortest space of time. This might encourage him to do what others before him had failed to even contemplate. If Nigeria is the beneficiary of Jonathan's desperation , so be it.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by edoyad(m): 5:56pm On May 15, 2010
How did i miss this, Some people are actually asking where states without gas or coal will their fuel for power generation from ? grin ARE YOU GUYS FOR REAL lol.
Where does the kaduna refinery get crude oil from ?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by paddylo1(m): 6:17pm On May 15, 2010
Very well overdue.

Let me break it down.  Nigeria requires about 50,000mw of electricity. we have 36 states/787 local govt.

50,000mw divided by 36 =  1400mw approx, if they build 60mw per month, each state will complete it in 24months

50,000mw divided by 787 = 64mw per each local govt, again if they build about 3mw every month , they will do it in 24 months.

Nice plan but the only problem is the dollars needed

For example it cost about $500Million to generate 500MW(Conservative estimate)

so each 1400MW per state will cost close to $2billion for each state

Thats $72 billion in total. . .where will the money come from?

Because it will be another avenue to siphon money by states with white elephant power projects
that they will start and then abandon

I suggest Private sector players be allowed to come in as they can get funds from outside the country easily. .
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by paddylo1(m): 6:21pm On May 15, 2010
About the telecoms sector, that to me is even an embarrassment. Nigeria is one of the few countries in the world where organisations leave mobile phone nos as contact nos. Do we even have 911 or 991 ?

The problem of few land lines lies with the incompetence of NITEL

Dont forget the telecomms companys were first licensed to provide only mobile services

I dont understand how they came from outside to make money,while NITEL still is incapable of making a profit till today

Its a shame,and that organization should be shut down,
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by netotse(m): 6:49pm On May 15, 2010
first and foremost i would like to state that i understand the president of any country is a busy man and will have to contend with a wide variety of topics most of which he has never had any formal trainiing in eg. agric, econs, etc

that said, GJ sold you all a pup, he was just being a politician and playing to the gallery, i wouldn't go as far as calling him a liar though, misguided and misinformed is more like it. He obviously doesn't know much about the power sector.

what he referred to is called captive generation, and is beyond the scope of the minister of power(not to mention the minister of state) it falls within the purview of the NERC, there are already conditions that must be met conditions which are designed to deter unserious individuals from rushing into the distribution business, the governors would know this if they had employed people that actually know what's going on,for crying out loud. Oh and all this was sorted out before yar adua came in.

some of the conditions the states that want to indulge in captive generation will have to meet

1. They will have to fund the detaching of their states from the national grid: as some of you will know, we have various distribution zones, for instance, niger abuja and some parts of nasarawa all belong to the same zone(dont know if there are other members), so if niger wants to employ captive generation(i'll get to niger's case later) it would have to ensure that it is seperated from the national grid, so that the power it generates isn't fed to abuja and nasarawa, and for a system that wasn't designed with captive generation in mind that'll cost a lot of money.

2.there'll have to be a referendum in the state; the residents of the state have to vote that they want to be of grid so the FG wont be blamed for any future happenings

3. the state house passes a resolution etc

these are the ones i can remember now sha.

Like i pasted on the thread about states coming together to buy the distribution companies, if we get what we want(in this case, each state supplying it's own power) the politics will become something else, state house of reps will now be deciding which areas should get light or not(woe betide whichever areas their ex-girlfriends and political foes reside in. . .lol)

now on to sundry issues
@edoyad
even if there was captive generation, niger state wouldn't get any captive power because they dont won any power plants (shiroro, jebba and kainji were all built with FG money), and the problem in niger state is that it's distribution network is crap, most of the distribution transformers there are seriously overloaded, trust me i know. . .



@gbawe

Regardless of corruption , most States would probably secure minimally acceptable power supply for citizens if they are allowed to generate and distribute their own power. States like Lagos are already very adept at deploying PPP (private-public-partnership) effectively . If allowed to distribute their own power I would bet that Fashola would not inaugurate an unwieldy and uneccesarily bureaucratic State-owned distribution entity that would waste more time and money while achieving nothing .  He would simply deploy experienced International power sector giants to design and implement a cohesive , integrated and modular power plan that allows for future tweaks and expansion. Jonathan's initiative is a step in the right direction because we have to understand that some States have Generation and distribution challenges . States can already generate power but they cannot distribute it. Allowing them to distribute power means that serious States move closer to controlling the pace of their own development.

Remember also that Jonathan does not have much time for grandiose schemes that will have little impact in the next few months and may be abrogated if a new man takes charge . He must impress in a short while. Jonathan is no fool. He will be aware that some IPP's currently exist that are not in use because of distribution issues. He will reason that if States are allowed to distribute we may see some of these IPP's add appreciable power to the grid before the end of the year . Who will then be looking Good(luck) ?
i like the way you see issues, we need pple like you in the power sector, where i have a problem is how you generalise, there is no IPP that is not in use.

A state like lagos would be hard pressed to build enough power stations to supply it's load, lagos will require well over 2500MW(i'm being very careful in naming numbers here so) at roughly 1$(that's optimistic) per kwh how much would that cost? the present cost of electricity would more than quadruple. part of what's killing nigeria is how much we pay for electricity, we dont pay enough(that's why foreign companies aren't coming to build power stations now)

@vigasimple
Very well overdue.

Let me break it down. Nigeria requires about 50,000mw of electricity. we have 36 states/787 local govt.

50,000mw divided by 36 =  1400mw approx, if they build 60mw per month, each state will complete it in 24months

50,000mw divided by 787 = 64mw per each local govt, again if they build about 3mw every month , they will do it in 24 months.


check out  www.nigeriansforsuperenergy.com   to see what is possible if we put our minds to it.

Good luck to Nigeria if Goodluck Jonathan has seen the light

i'm sorry, i need to ask you where(in heaven, on earth or even hell sef) you saw a 60MW station built in a month? and you didn't put any prices in your post, please could you tell me how much your plan would cost?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by udezue(m): 6:54pm On May 15, 2010
Good idea. I hope he really gets this rolling. what is needed is decentralization then each state can then worry about controlling it or getting private sectore involved which will be a very good idea. Enugu state already has the Oji power plant that used to power the Eastern region and we had lights then so its a welcome idea. Let each state figurwe out how to best provide electricity for its citizens. we have good governors like Amaechi, Obi, Sullivan, Uduaghan, Fashola, with good ideas and potentials to move their states forward but lack of autonomy and too much authority in the center makes it harder for them.
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by paddylo1(m): 6:58pm On May 15, 2010
lagos will require well over 2500MW(i'm being very careful in naming numbers here so) at roughly 1$(that's optimistic) per kwh how much would that cost? the present cost of electricity would more than quadruple. part of what's killing nigeria is how much we pay for electricity, we dont pay enough(that's why foreign companies aren't coming to build power stations now)

Isnt this a kind of chicken and egg situation?

We dont pay enough for electricity. . so foriegn companies are not incentivized to come in

and if they are incentivized to come in. . Then the cost of electricity will be too much to afford

I believe that the Govt can deregulate the price of power. .
but it can also help the companies by giving them tax breaks. .or cheap funding(1%) to build power plants

I know its not the same,but Foreign telecomms companies have spent close to $18billion since 2000 to roll out services in nigeria
If we can get something like that in the power sector,it should be a win win

Perhaps they can use prepaid meters,and people can buy what they can afford upfront
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by netotse(m): 7:14pm On May 15, 2010
paddy_lo:

Isnt this a kind of chicken and egg situation?
i was discussing with a very very senior colleague and he used the exact same phrase. . .lol


We dont pay enough for electricity. . so foriegn companies are not incentivized to come in

and if they are incentivized to come in. . Then the cost of electricity will be too much to afford
that's the problem, what the senior colleague said was, do nigerians start paying sensible prices before or after the electricity problem is solved? that's why MYTO was put in place, the tariff is being increased little by little and eventually we'll get to the stage where we'll be paying enough, but now, what we paying isn't even up to what it costs to generate the electricity!



I believe that the Govt can deregulate the price of power.  .
but it can also help the companies by giving them tax breaks.  .or cheap funding(1%) to build power plants
the same guy was like what government is trying to avoid is acquiring sovereign debt, the government simply does not have enough money to fund power in nigeria and of course we both know why we cant access private money



I know its not the same,but Foreign telecomms companies have spent close to $18billion since 2000 to roll out services in nigeria
If we can get something like that in the power sector,it should be a win win

Perhaps they can use prepaid meters,and people can buy what they can afford upfront
the foreign companies spent that much cos they know they'd be able to recoup their costs, they were able to set the tariffs(to an extent), but in the electricity sector, it's essentially government that sets the tariffs(through the NERC) and all the crooks that we have as leaders are more interested in re-election than solving the problems

the same day i was talking with the guy that told me all this stuff(yep he had something to do with MYTO) another senior colleague said and i quote 'until we have a president that's not interested in re-election we're not going to have light in nigeria'.

P.S.
yes i like to listen to people discuss power in nigeria
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by edoyad(m): 7:25pm On May 15, 2010
Time after time i see Nigerians taken for granted when such projections are made regarding what we can afford. But we already know that :
1. We pay some of the highest rates for phone calls on the continent already.

2. We pay the highest rate for fuel amongst OPEC.

3. Being the 2nd largest importer of cement(2007 figures) on the planet, we still pay expensively for it.

So it baffles me when people use the price of electricity to deny Nigerians of this necessity. Paddylo are you telling Ghanians can afford electricity but we cannot ?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Bukittes(f): 4:59pm On May 17, 2010
Good idea Mr President. But fellow Nigerians, if this works, we have things to start contending with.
1 More charges on bills
2 Will our already dead transformers function?
Re: Nigerian States Will Soon Be Allowed To Distribute Power - Goodluck by Gekko(m): 5:08pm On May 17, 2010
paddy_lo:


Isnt this a kind of chicken and egg situation?

We dont pay enough for electricity. . so foriegn companies are not incentivized to come in

and if they are incentivized to come in. . Then the cost of electricity will be too much to afford

I believe that the Govt can deregulate the price of power. .
but it can also help the companies by giving them tax breaks. .or cheap funding(1%) to build power plants

I know its not the same,but Foreign telecomms companies have spent close to $18billion since 2000 to roll out services in nigeria
If we can get something like that in the power sector,it should be a win win

Perhaps they can use prepaid meters,and people can buy what they can afford upfront


I am paying roughly the equivalent of 6000 naira for uninterrupted electricty abroad, isn't Nigerians paying more to buy diesel to power generators?

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