Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,148,902 members, 7,802,927 topics. Date: Saturday, 20 April 2024 at 03:39 AM

Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story - Religion - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story (1104 Views)

Biblical Jonah Story, How True Is It? / Archaeology: Evidence Of Jonah And The Whale Found In Jerusalem (Photos) / Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (Reply) (Go Down)

Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by purem(m): 10:14pm On Apr 21, 2018
God told Jonah to go to Nineveh “and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me” [Jonah 1:2]. Instead (the Bible doesn’t say why) Jonah jumped on a ship heading “unto Tarshish,”[2] so God sent a great wind which whipped up “a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken” [Jonah 1:4].

When the sailors discovered that Jonah had aroused God’s anger by disobeying his command, they threw him overboard where he was swallowed by the whale. Jonah prayed fiercely for three days, so God relented and “spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land” [Jonah 2:10].

This story brings up rather obvious questions:

1. What kind of fish, if any, could swallow a man whole? and,
2. If there is such a fish, could a man live in its stomach for three days?
3. How the hell did the fish drops him in a dry land?


1. Whales are potentially large enough to be candidates (and, of course, whales aren’t fish; they’re mammals).

There are two main kinds of whales: baleen whales and horned-tooth whales. Baleen whales have enormous mouths and feed on krill, but their throats are only a few inches in diameter.

Horned-toothed whales (odontocetous) have slicing teeth and throats large enough to swallow chunks of fish and gigantic squid. Most, though, are too small to swallow a man whole, except for the sperm whale and the giant beaked whale.


As the giant beaked whale lives only in polar regions, the sperm whale, found anywhere in the seven seas including the eastern Mediterranean, is the primary candidate.

A sperm whale can be 20.5 meters (67 feet) long — 11 times the height of a tall man. Its jawbone is about 25% of its length — up to five meters (16½ feet), so its mouth is large enough to snap shut around Jonah without slicing off his feet or head; its throat is also large enough for Jonah to have slid down, so long as he’s slightly built.

The sperm whales’ favorite foods are the giant squid and the colossal squid, which live up to three kilometers (1.9 miles) below the ocean surface. These creatures can be up to 13 meters (42½ feet) long, but as most of their length is tentacles, their bodies are, at best, 4 meters (13 feet) long and 1½ meters (5 feet) in diameter. So it seems a sperm whale could swallow a man whole.

Other possibilities have been suggested, like the Great White Shark — but whale, shark, or something else there’s an insuperable problem: once swallowed, “Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” [Jonah 2:17], which raises the second obvious question: how did he survive without oxygen which isn’t to be found in any fish’s or whale’s stomach.

What’s more, for those “three days and three nights” Jonah’s only protection against stomach acids and digestive processes was “the weeds…wrapped about my head” [Jonah 2:5]. They may have “protected” him just long enough for him to die of oxygen starvation. Or, more likely, drowning from gulping stomach acids.

The third question; how did the big fish drops him off in a dry land since whales only habitat is the sea?

But “the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah” [Jonah 1:17]: so it was a fish, not a mammal, especially prepared for Jonah so of no known species. A magical fish with a stomach full of oxygen and — who knows? — fresh water and a buffet banquet as well.

Cc: johnnydon22
Hopefulland
Chemystry
Vaxx
Superhumanist
Sciencewatch
Dalaman
Agentofhalla

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by ebukahandsome(m): 11:14pm On Apr 21, 2018
purem:
God told Jonah to go to Nineveh “and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me” [Jonah 1:2]. Instead (the Bible doesn’t say why) Jonah jumped on a ship heading “unto Tarshish,”[2] so God sent a great wind which whipped up “a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken” [Jonah 1:4].

When the sailors discovered that Jonah had aroused God’s anger by disobeying his command, they threw him overboard where he was swallowed by the whale. Jonah prayed fiercely for three days, so God relented and “spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land” [Jonah 2:10].

This story brings up rather obvious questions:

1. What kind of fish, if any, could swallow a man whole? and,
2. If there is such a fish, could a man live in its stomach for three days?
3. How the hell did the fish drops him in a dry land?


1. Whales are potentially large enough to be candidates (and, of course, whales aren’t fish; they’re mammals).

There are two main kinds of whales: baleen whales and horned-tooth whales. Baleen whales have enormous mouths and feed on krill, but their throats are only a few inches in diameter.

Horned-toothed whales (odontocetous) have slicing teeth and throats large enough to swallow chunks of fish and gigantic squid. Most, though, are too small to swallow a man whole, except for the sperm whale and the giant beaked whale.


As the giant beaked whale lives only in polar regions, the sperm whale, found anywhere in the seven seas including the eastern Mediterranean, is the primary candidate.

A sperm whale can be 20.5 meters (67 feet) long — 11 times the height of a tall man. Its jawbone is about 25% of its length — up to five meters (16½ feet), so its mouth is large enough to snap shut around Jonah without slicing off his feet or head; its throat is also large enough for Jonah to have slid down, so long as he’s slightly built.

The sperm whales’ favorite foods are the giant squid and the colossal squid, which live up to three kilometers (1.9 miles) below the ocean surface. These creatures can be up to 13 meters (42½ feet) long, but as most of their length is tentacles, their bodies are, at best, 4 meters (13 feet) long and 1½ meters (5 feet) in diameter. So it seems a sperm whale could swallow a man whole.

Other possibilities have been suggested, like the Great White Shark — but whale, shark, or something else there’s an insuperable problem: once swallowed, “Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” [Jonah 2:17], which raises the second obvious question: how did he survive without oxygen which isn’t to be found in any fish’s or whale’s stomach.

What’s more, for those “three days and three nights” Jonah’s only protection against stomach acids and digestive processes was “the weeds…wrapped about my head” [Jonah 2:5]. They may have “protected” him just long enough for him to die of oxygen starvation. Or, more likely, drowning from gulping stomach acids.

The third question; how did the big fish drops him off in a dry land since whales only habitat is the sea?

But “the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah” [Jonah 1:17]: so it was a fish, not a mammal, especially prepared for Jonah so of no known species. A magical fish with a stomach full of oxygen and — who knows? — fresh water and a buffet banquet as well.

Cc: johnnydon22
Hopefulland
Chemystry
Vaxx
Superhumanist
Sciencewatch
Dalaman
Agentofhalla


Let me just relax and laugh at the ignorance of atheists.
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by superhumanist(m): 11:02am On Apr 22, 2018
Bible stories do not follow logic
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by 1stSonOfLucifer(m): 11:09am On Apr 22, 2018
ebukahandsome:



Let me just relax and laugh at the ignorance of atheists.
Hé needs the holy spirit to understand the spiritual meaning I guess.

2 Likes

Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by mcyemite(m): 11:11am On Apr 22, 2018
Sitted
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by obonujoker(m): 12:48pm On Apr 22, 2018
These atheist are funny.... what is so difficult for God to do??

A being that created a wonderful creation such as man, that man itself has to copy God's creation (robots, engines etc)...

A being that ressurected a soul...

So what's Jonah fish to him??
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by superhumanist(m): 2:09pm On Apr 22, 2018
obonujoker:
These atheist are funny.... what is so difficult for God to do??

A being that created a wonderful creation such as man, that man itself has to copy God's creation (robots, engines etc)...

A being that ressurected a soul...

So what's Jonah fish to him??

The same God that foolishly created Satan and couldnt foresee the damage he would cause to Adam and Eve?

The same God that couldnt find a way to forgive sins without sacrificing his only begotten son?


Your God is impotent
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by CAPSLOCKED: 10:41pm On Jun 09, 2018
obonujoker:
These atheist are funny.... what is so difficult for God to do??




- PREVENT FULANI ATTACKS.
- CURE CANCER.
- PREVENT VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS AND HURRICANES.
- STOP LIGHTENING FROM DESTROYING CHURCHES. (IF NOT FOR BENJAMIN FRANKLIN'S LIGHTNING ROD PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN BARBECUED LONG AGO).
- END WORLD HUNGER AND POVERTY.
- REPLACE DAMAGED HUMAN BODY PARTS.
- RESCUE ABDUCTED SCHOOL GIRLS.
- SAVE LITTLE CHILDREN AND WOMEN FROM MOLESTERS.
- ANSWER PRAYERS.
- KEEP ALL THE PROMISES HE MADE IN THE BIBLE.

4 Likes

Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by hakeem4(m): 11:05pm On Jun 09, 2018
obonujoker:
These atheist are funny.... what is so difficult for God to do??

A being that created a wonderful creation such as man, that man itself has to copy God's creation (robots, engines etc)...

A being that ressurected a soul...

So what's Jonah fish to him??
he can’t stop poverty
He can’t stop natural disasters. In fact let’s look at the way the Earth is trying to kill us volcanic eruptions , tsunami, earth quakes and tremors. If he can’t stop these things then there are a lot of things he can’t do, so he’s not god. He spends his time testing people’s faith instead of solving problem
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by xproducer: 7:27pm On Jun 10, 2018
OP... a whale is a big enough fish, but long story short... "For with God nothing will be impossible.” - Luke 1:37

=====

("as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did." - Romans 4:17

1 Like

Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by Maamin(m): 9:52pm On Jun 10, 2018
purem:
God told Jonah to go to Nineveh “and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me” [Jonah 1:2]. Instead (the Bible doesn’t say why) Jonah jumped on a ship heading “unto Tarshish,”[2] so God sent a great wind which whipped up “a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken” [Jonah 1:4].

When the sailors discovered that Jonah had aroused God’s anger by disobeying his command, they threw him overboard where he was swallowed by the whale. Jonah prayed fiercely for three days, so God relented and “spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land” [Jonah 2:10].

This story brings up rather obvious questions:

1. What kind of fish, if any, could swallow a man whole? and,
2. If there is such a fish, could a man live in its stomach for three days?
3. How the hell did the fish drops him in a dry land?


1. Whales are potentially large enough to be candidates (and, of course, whales aren’t fish; they’re mammals).

There are two main kinds of whales: baleen whales and horned-tooth whales. Baleen whales have enormous mouths and feed on krill, but their throats are only a few inches in diameter.

Horned-toothed whales (odontocetous) have slicing teeth and throats large enough to swallow chunks of fish and gigantic squid. Most, though, are too small to swallow a man whole, except for the sperm whale and the giant beaked whale.


As the giant beaked whale lives only in polar regions, the sperm whale, found anywhere in the seven seas including the eastern Mediterranean, is the primary candidate.

A sperm whale can be 20.5 meters (67 feet) long — 11 times the height of a tall man. Its jawbone is about 25% of its length — up to five meters (16½ feet), so its mouth is large enough to snap shut around Jonah without slicing off his feet or head; its throat is also large enough for Jonah to have slid down, so long as he’s slightly built.

The sperm whales’ favorite foods are the giant squid and the colossal squid, which live up to three kilometers (1.9 miles) below the ocean surface. These creatures can be up to 13 meters (42½ feet) long, but as most of their length is tentacles, their bodies are, at best, 4 meters (13 feet) long and 1½ meters (5 feet) in diameter. So it seems a sperm whale could swallow a man whole.

Other possibilities have been suggested, like the Great White Shark — but whale, shark, or something else there’s an insuperable problem: once swallowed, “Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” [Jonah 2:17], which raises the second obvious question: how did he survive without oxygen which isn’t to be found in any fish’s or whale’s stomach.

What’s more, for those “three days and three nights” Jonah’s only protection against stomach acids and digestive processes was “the weeds…wrapped about my head” [Jonah 2:5]. They may have “protected” him just long enough for him to die of oxygen starvation. Or, more likely, drowning from gulping stomach acids.

The third question; how did the big fish drops him off in a dry land since whales only habitat is the sea?

But “the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah” [Jonah 1:17]: so it was a fish, not a mammal, especially prepared for Jonah so of no known species. A magical fish with a stomach full of oxygen and — who knows? — fresh water and a buffet banquet as well.

Cc: johnnydon22
Hopefulland
Chemystry
Vaxx
Superhumanist
Sciencewatch
Dalaman
Agentofhalla

Op your answer is already in your question @ the bold

Since God specially prepared the fish that swallowed up Jonah, then your human logic on what a fish is or not or what whales are and can do or can not do no longer count.

"For with God nothing shall be impossible." - Luke 1:37

And by the way have you tried the book of Revelations?

There are so many impossible things beyond physical reasoning and logic there too. Infact Jonah's story is nothing compared to them. wink
Re: Argument; The Falsehood Behind Jonah's Story by sincere9jaboy: 10:03pm On Jun 10, 2018
what of the baby that was buried alive and survived 8hours without oxygen in south america?

(1) (Reply)

Protest Fear Hits Nigeria As Hip-hop Legends Call Out Adeboye / "Rain Is Falling To Wipe Away Coronavirus!!!" | Tb Joshua Prophecy / Merry Christmas: Today Is The Day Our Lord Is Born

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 36
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.