Sallygold:
I also want to relocate, I don't have a good paying job, so salary is poor. Saving gradually for it. I dont knw the process involved or how to get agent to process this, I am considering Australia. Please help on how I can go about it.

Electroweb:
...but what kind of jobs do these middle class nigerians that were earning well, do when they get to Canada? I hope its not Uber, Mcdonalds and the likes.

Electroweb:
...but what kind of jobs do these middle class nigerians that were earning well, do when they get to Canada? I hope its not Uber, Mcdonalds and the likes.

dru23:


Please and please carry your Canada wala to dey go.. This is uber thread o

mrsage:
Topics like this should be on front page ....

Electroweb:
...but what kind of jobs do these middle class nigerians that were earning well, do when they get to Canada? I hope its not Uber, Mcdonalds and the likes.

AgentGoat:
which car person fit get for 900k for UBEr runs?

hotdealz:
Its not really about them but for their children. They are relocating to secure their children future in a country where everything seems to work. - My Uncle, 2009.

My uncle left his high paying job and relocated to Canada with his family. Today, all his children are professionals in their fields of study. While my neighbor who is a banker, has four graduates at home still depending on him for survival.

In Nigeria, being hardworking doesn't guarantee that your children future is secure regardless of how hardworking they are themselves. The country is ge3 tting worse every day. There is no light at the end of the tunnel.

peacengine:


We are three graduates, here in Naija all working, so what is your response? Your cousins are lazy yuths!

But seriously, black man is not too wise. If I earn a million here will I relocate because of light? Hahahaha I will move to where I can get good supply of light here, then kit my house with solar fully fitted and inverter backup running smoothly too.

peacengine:


We are three graduates, here in Naija all working, so what is your response? Your cousins are lazy yuths!

But seriously, black man is not too wise. If I earn a million here will I relocate because of light? Hahahaha I will move to where I can get good supply of light here, then kit my house with solar fully fitted and inverter backup running smoothly too.

Saintp:


Black people are too self centered, you just confirmed it and this is why we can't develop as a nation. We care only about ourselves, ourselves and ourselves with no regard to others and the larger society.

So you will be happy that you have solar and inverter and have 24/7 light while your neighbors wallow in darkness. Some people have bought SUVs to minimize the effect of bad roads, some have surrounded their house with 12 feet wall, nails and barb wires to protect themselves from bad people and they are happy thinking this is all to life.

Until we start to value collective and society progress instead of individual progress, this country will remain a shithole. The difference between us and the western world is that the value collective progress, you don't need to be rich to enjoy basic amenities, you don't need to be rich to call 911 when in danger to get immediate police protection and many more.

At the end of the day, it shouldn't be about money. I prefer to be in an environment where things work for all irrespective of whether they are rich or poor than to be in an environment where getting the basic things of life will depend on how rich or poor you are.

peacengine:


We are three graduates, here in Naija all working, so what is your response? Your cousins are lazy yuths!

But seriously, black man is not too wise. If I earn a million here will I relocate because of light? Hahahaha I will move to where I can get good supply of light here, then kit my house with solar fully fitted and inverter backup running smoothly too.

Saintp:


Black people are too self centered, you just confirmed it and this is why we can't develop as a nation. We care only about ourselves, ourselves and ourselves with no regard to others and the larger society.

So you will be happy that you have solar and inverter and have 24/7 light while your neighbors wallow in darkness. Some people have bought SUVs to minimize the effect of bad roads, some have surrounded their house with 12 feet wall, nails and barb wires to protect themselves from bad people and they are happy thinking this is all to life.

Until we start to value collective and society progress instead of individual progress, this country will remain a shithole. The difference between us and the western world is that the value collective progress, you don't need to be rich to enjoy basic amenities, you don't need to be rich to call 911 when in danger to get immediate police protection and many more.

At the end of the day, it shouldn't be about money. I prefer to be in an environment where things work for all irrespective of whether they are rich or poor than to be in an environment where getting the basic things of life will depend on how rich or poor you are.

Saintp:


Black people are too self centered, you just confirmed it and this is why we can't develop as a nation. We care only about ourselves, ourselves and ourselves with no regard to others and the larger society.

So you will be happy that you have solar and inverter and have 24/7 light while your neighbors wallow in darkness. Some people have bought SUVs to minimize the effect of bad roads, some have surrounded their house with 12 feet wall, nails and barb wires to protect themselves from bad people and they are happy thinking this is all to life.

Until we start to value collective and society progress instead of individual progress, this country will remain a shithole. The difference between us and the western world is that the value collective progress, you don't need to be rich to enjoy basic amenities, you don't need to be rich to call 911 when in danger to get immediate police protection and many more.

At the end of the day, it shouldn't be about money. I prefer to be in an environment where things work for all irrespective of whether they are rich or poor than to be in an environment where getting the basic things of life will depend on how rich or poor you are.

ell77:
Relocating is fine, but where does it end?

You move with your wife and kids.

Then what about your parents back home? They will need medical care as they grow older, if all the doctors are leaving for the UK (and hospitals are a death trap) that is a worrying scenario. Will you import 4 grandparents to stay with your children. What about uncles and aunties, cousins etc. Those who have reached positions of success are uniquely placed to change Nigeria. I firmly believe the private sector can change Nigeria, and in fact, that may be our only hope for now!

Why do you think it seems so impossible for us to simply work together (irrespective of government)?

ell77:


I appreciate your point on collective effort, but if families who are well off enough move out of Nigeria to Canada and the rest. What happens to those who cannot leave Nigeria. To myself both methods have elements of selfishness and perhaps moving out of the country and leaving others behind could be argued to be just as selfish.

The only way for such progress is for Nigerian people to rally together (this includes those in diaspora). I am not against anyone going or staying though, I just wanted to highlight this point in your otherwise good argument.

Look at it this way if 20 people who are earning N1m per month came together and sacrificed 3 months salary (not at a go), they would have N60m to invest in starting up something that would provide a decent service and generate profit. i.e. shared solar services, donation of a solar panel to a local hospital, scholarships scheme etc. Yes, as you said, we need to value societal and collective progress - WE REALLY DO!

HeWrites:


Quick question, if you have the 20M are you going to do that shii you wrote. (easier said than done).

If you can, the money you're earning every month (that's if you're working) slash it by two and be keeping half of the money. After a year, go and use the money to open a company where you will be employing people. And if you think you can't do it alone, be sending me the money.

ell77:


@HeWrites - That is where innovation comes in. I am not expecting Nigerians to all become Mother Theresa, but we should move from a win/lose mentality to a win/win mentality. If you read what you emboldened you will see the idea is simple - the problem is finding like-minded people. I would happily do this if I could find like-minded people and we would make profit whilst benefiting our society (new job creation included). However, I live in the UK (born and bred), when next I visit I hope there will still be Nigerians left in Nigeria to discuss solutions with and ACT ON THEM!

ell77:
Relocating is fine, but where does it end?

You move with your wife and kids.

Then what about your parents back home? They will need medical care as they grow older, if all the doctors are leaving for the UK (and hospitals are a death trap) that is a worrying scenario. Will you import 4 grandparents to stay with your children. What about uncles and aunties, cousins etc. Those who have reached positions of success are uniquely placed to change Nigeria. I firmly believe the private sector can change Nigeria, and in fact, that may be our only hope for now!

Why do you think it seems so impossible for us to simply work together (irrespective of government)?

maternal:


Did you give all these advice to your parents? You do know there's a reason you were born abroad ? Do you think it was a mistake ?

HeWrites:


I won't take you serious.

Don't stay over there and be giving advice. Please come and be living here in Nigeria so that we will face the suffering together.