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Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive / JOHESU Set To Embark On Indefinite Strike / Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! (2) (3) (4)

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 9:49pm On May 10, 2018
HaneefahRN:



No where in their demands was same pay as Drs mentioned.
All they seek is better pay, working conditions, ability to progress in their field without it been cut short and payment of their salary arrears.
Drs have had their salaries adjusted thrice in 4 years, no one batted an eye lid, the resident Drs went on about 6 months strike the last time no one said anything but placate them, but whenever the other health professionals try and make any request, they start brewing trouble and feel unnecessarily threatened like other health professionals earning better will affect their salary. Since they have smartly positioned themselves so well to occupy all top positions in the health sector they try and stifle others. You are either a Dr in the health sector or nothing.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by TINO26: 9:50pm On May 10, 2018
MrBigiman:
Shame on Johesu!
it should be shame on NMA,...blocking other people from progressing out of ego and wickedness...equity is never equality

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by kamantan(m): 9:50pm On May 10, 2018
Then NMA is just a bunch of egocentric, greedy n selfish collection of obnoxious aliens the Federal government should return all health worker to once salary structure, did wrangling for cancerous supremacy must be halted permanently

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by positivethought: 9:52pm On May 10, 2018
Elueme:

I wish u could digest the NMA position before posting this crap..
NMA is not against pay rise for anybody but ask that relativity be sacrosanct according to international best practice.. A doctor with several academic battering and fellowship struggle cannot be on same salary scale with a nurse or pharmacist.. forget the age and all, the quality of service isn't same irrespective of how old one has been in service. We must learn to respect professionalism in this country.
Johesu was formed to hang up against the doctors in the health sector because they feel with their strength they can arm twist the government.. Some of it's demands ate briddled with ego, jealousy and desire to reap where one didn't sow. The door is wide open for any who wishes to study medicine. No following short cut, go back to school and be accorded same status.
pls don't say the door is wide open for anyone who wishes to study medicine,you know that if not for financial constraints n the Nigerian factor many would have been doctors today n some of you feeling cocky as doctors today wouldn't be, agreed doctors should be paid higher but let doctors stop the idea of wanting to head every single branch of the health sector now that there are qualified personnel in those fields simple.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by tflourish9: 9:53pm On May 10, 2018
We can see how these unions are holding the nation to ransom because of their selfish demands.They get paid even while on strike,so the only people that suffers are the patients.Weakening the powers of these unions is the only way forward.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 9:53pm On May 10, 2018
stonemasonn:
a registered nurse of over 20 years experience who is a specialist in say oncology should earn much more than a fresh medical graduate.

It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by HaneefahRN(f): 9:54pm On May 10, 2018
AbuadStudent:



The health minister has from the onset always been biased. He is a Minister of Drs. And what is written there is bullcrap

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 9:54pm On May 10, 2018
kamantan:
Then NMA is just a bunch of egocentric, greedy n selfish collection of obnoxious aliens the Federal government should return all health worker to once salary structure, did wrangling for cancerous supremacy must be halted permanently

And rightly so. There is heirachy amongst healthcare workers. Rightly based on the level of training. A doctor and a nurse are not the same.no where on this green earth would a doctor earn the same as other health care proffesionals.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by HaneefahRN(f): 9:54pm On May 10, 2018
MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!


Such stup.idity in just a post. The dumbo is obvious

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by obinto: 9:55pm On May 10, 2018
Franklyly:
A meeting between the federal government and the striking health workers under the aegis of the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU) has again ended with no agreement, a leader of the union has said.
According to the National Vice Chairman of JOHESU, Ogbonna Chimela, the government in the meeting held Wednesday said they are preparing an offer for the union.
“They said they want to make an offer to us but we don’t know what it is yet until we study it and know if its what we can accept or not,” Mr Chimela said.
JOHESU, an association of health workers except doctors, has been on strike for exactly 22 days.
Patients are worst hit as nurses and midwives — some of the most influential members of JOHESU — have all downed tools in federal health institutions.
PREMIUM TIMES earlier Wednesday
reported that the states and local governments health workers had been directed to join the strike by Wednesday, midnight.
State leaders of the union said they agreed to join the ongoing strike so as to mount maximum pressure on government to meet their demands.
“Our position is still clear. The federal institutions are all on strike. The state and local government health workers have joined and it will continue this way till our demands are fully met,” Mr Chimela told PREMIUM TIMES on Thursday.
He added that the government said it will contact the Union by 8 p.m. Thursday for a continuation of the meeting.
When contacted for comments, Minister of Health, Isaac Adewole, said the meeting between the government and the union is still ongoing.
“We are still meeting with them,” the minister said in a text message.
On states and local government health institutions joining the industrial action, he said, “I still need to confirm that.”
The NMA is a body constituted by the most selfish and arrogant creatures on earth. It serves them well to mention "international best practices" in some areas but neglects to mention it when it is inconvenient. Such arrant imprudence to threaten a strike action if govt settles with JOHESU. NMA be told Nigerians are more used to Doctorsbeing on strike than at work. Nothing new here. It happened before and will happen again and again.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by frankpro27(m): 9:55pm On May 10, 2018
ubergold:
This is very similar to what is going on in higher institutions. Non academic staffs feel they should have equal pay and benefits forgetting that both of them get their qualifications through different level of work. I find it funny that NMA had to release this memo for the employer (Govt) to be aware. Their request for relativity is common sense. A doctor goes through many rigors to be able to practice, just like a lecturer has to Keep upgrading himself and publish papers in order to keep his job so they can't be on the same level with other medical personnel

Nd a pharmacist got his on a platter of gold. Shut ur mouth already. Thr is no much difference bw a pharm.D holder Nd a medical doctor. A pharmacist can do all except surgery. Bt also, a doctor can't compound or produce drugs. What do doctors knw about drugs pls.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 9:55pm On May 10, 2018
MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!


The sad thing is that these johesu people would want their children to be doctors o! Be forming riot upandan. Tragic.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by norahs: 9:56pm On May 10, 2018
Elueme:

I wish u could digest the NMA position before posting this crap..
NMA is not against pay rise for anybody but ask that relativity be sacrosanct according to international best practice.. A doctor with several academic battering and fellowship struggle cannot be on same salary scale with a nurse or pharmacist.. forget the age and all, the quality of service isn't same irrespective of how old one has been in service. We must learn to respect professionalism in this country.
Johesu was formed to hang up against the doctors in the health sector because they feel with their strength they can arm twist the government.. Some of it's demands ate briddled with ego, jealousy and desire to reap where one didn't sow. The door is wide open for any who wishes to study medicine. No following short cut, go back to school and be accorded same status.

When you quote international best practice, I assume that you are either being mischievous or uninformed. In USA and Canada well known as standards for international best practice, an intern doctor or resident doctor (doctor in training) earns lower than a nurse, pharmacist and other health professionals. Yes, an attending (consultant) and general practitioner earns higher but NEVER an intern or resident doctor. So stop mis-quoting international best practice. Besides, medical practice in Nigeria is no where near local best practice let alone international best practice.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by HaneefahRN(f): 9:56pm On May 10, 2018
There is no use arguing with these i.diots. Makes my blood boil. For a set of people you would expect intelligence from these people can be so disappointing

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by magicminister: 9:58pm On May 10, 2018
The only people that suffer from this unnecessary rivalry are the patients.
Every part of the health sector should work in harmony and synchronously with each other.
Having used the health care sector in countries like USA, i can tell tell you for a fact that other health professionals are also made consultants.
There are consultant pharmacist, Nurse practitioners and so on. Even though they don't make as much as a doctor, they are well respected when it come heading their departments and work directly with doctors and even go on rounds with doctors.

They answer to doctors and make recommendations if the doctor requests for it but in the absence of doctors, they can be trusted to handle things.

This rivalry is absolutely unnecessary !!!

Grant JOHESU what they want and grant NMA what they want.
I am sure there has to be a middle ground!

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 9:58pm On May 10, 2018
TINO26:
it should be shame on NMA,...blocking other people from progressing out of ego and wickedness...equity is never equality

Nothing like equity. Doctors lay down their youth and all to practice for humanity. A thoroughly bleeped lab gal who cohabited through out her nondemanding 5years wants to be on the same scale as him. Mention a single sane country where doctors are one the same scale as pharmacist, nurses and lab Scientist. You have ur internet, use it. If u show me any advanced country with that model, then I will immediately switch sides. If not, shame on u and all Johesu members.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 9:58pm On May 10, 2018
frankpro27:


Nd a pharmacist got his on a platter of gold. Shut ur mouth already. Thr is no much difference bw a pharm.D holder Nd a medical doctor. A pharmacist can do all except surgery. Bt also, a doctor can't compound or produce drugs. What do doctors knw about drugs pls.

What are you saying. A doctor and a pharmacist are not on the same level at all. Medicine is not just "prescribing drugs". That is why the training is vigorous. Not to even talk of specialization. Please correct this erronous belief. Any sick patient should go to the doctor. ASAP.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 9:59pm On May 10, 2018
magicminister:
The only people that suffer from this unnecessary rivalry are the patients.

Honestly. When the elephants are fighting, its the grass that dies.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Buffalowings3(m): 10:00pm On May 10, 2018
How can doctors and nurses be ccollecting the same salary cool

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 10:01pm On May 10, 2018
HaneefahRN:
There is no use arguing with these i.diots. Makes my blood boil. For a set of people you would expect intelligence from these people can be so disappointing

But i showed you proof that johesu is asking for the same pay as doctors.

If they were asking for a simple raise, it wouldnt cause his much problem.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Hairyrapunzel: 10:01pm On May 10, 2018
frankpro27:


Nd a pharmacist got his on a platter of gold. Shut ur mouth already. Thr is no much difference bw a pharm.D holder Nd a medical doctor. A pharmacist can do all except surgery. Bt also, a doctor can't compound or produce drugs. What do doctors knw about drugs pls.
What does a pharm D know about making diagnosis? Is it by knowing all drugs that makes a pharmacist a medical doctor?
Well, I guess not. Since they don't know the diseases they don't know jack.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 10:01pm On May 10, 2018
norahs:


When you quote international best practice, I assume that you are either being mischievous or uninformed. In USA and Canada well known as standards for international best practice, an intern doctor or resident doctor (doctor in training) earns lower than a nurse, pharmacist and other health professionals. Yes, an attending (consultant) and general practitioner earns higher but NEVER an intern or resident doctor. So stop mis-quoting international best practice. Besides, medical practice in Nigeria is no where near local best practice let alone international best practice.

A second year doctors in UK earns an average of 45,pounds per hour, a second year pharmacist earns 24 pounds per hour on the average. Stop being dumb and face reality. The pharmacist, Lab attendant, called scientist and the nurse are not in the same league with Doctors.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by frankpro27(m): 10:02pm On May 10, 2018
MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!

Look at the amount of stupidity ur vomiting. SMH

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Elueme: 10:03pm On May 10, 2018
SLYX:


All this nonsense typing, is it about the foolish Nigerian doctors that know nothing. Why do you think President Buhari had to travel for medical check up outside. It's crystal clear that Nigerian doctors are not worth it at all. I have first hand experience of how doctors in teaching hospitals managed my mom's health almost to death. Just one visit to a Turkish hospital, all their wrong diagnosis were revealed. And today my mom is alive and strong. I rather die than submit myself to be treated by a Nigerian doctor
Mr Man, it was not only the doctor that managed your mum.. I guess the johesus were also involved.. by the way who was the leader of the managing team in the Turkish hosp? A doctor I guess, so it has defeated your reasoning..
The limitation in the nigerian health sector are multifactorial.. knowledge rank almost last, why the Nigerian doctor distinguishes his or herself outside the shores

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AbuadStudent(m): 10:04pm On May 10, 2018
norahs:


When you quote international best practice, I assume that you are either being mischievous or uninformed. In USA and Canada well known as standards for international best practice, an intern doctor or resident doctor (doctor in training) earns lower than a nurse, pharmacist and other health professionals. Yes, an attending (consultant) and general practitioner earns higher but NEVER an intern or resident doctor. So stop mis-quoting international best practice. Besides, medical practice in Nigeria is no where near local best practice let alone international best practice.

I just browsed this bro. A medical intern EARNS HIGHER than a nurse. You can confirm for yourself.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 10:04pm On May 10, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:

What does a pharm D know about making diagnosis? Is it by knowing all drugs that makes a pharmacist a medical doctor?
Well, I guess not. Since they don't know the diseases they don't know jack.

U dey mind that one. They should diagnose hemianopia, or ALVF or Pleural effusion. Their stupidity will make Doctors scarce in Nigeria.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by felixomor: 10:04pm On May 10, 2018
frankpro27:


Nd a pharmacist got his on a platter of gold. Shut ur mouth already. Thr is no much difference bw a pharm.D holder Nd a medical doctor. A pharmacist can do all except surgery. Bt also, a doctor can't compound or produce drugs. What do doctors knw about drugs pls.

Then let them write the same exams in school lets see who comes out on top.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by maestroferddi: 10:05pm On May 10, 2018
Elueme:

I wish u could digest the NMA position before posting this crap..
NMA is not against pay rise for anybody but ask that relativity be sacrosanct according to international best practice.. A doctor with several academic battering and fellowship struggle cannot be on same salary scale with a nurse or pharmacist.. forget the age and all, the quality of service isn't same irrespective of how old one has been in service. We must learn to respect professionalism in this country.
Johesu was formed to hang up against the doctors in the health sector because they feel with their strength they can arm twist the government.. Some of it's demands ate briddled with ego, jealousy and desire to reap where one didn't sow. The door is wide open for any who wishes to study medicine. No following short cut, go back to school and be accorded same status.
Your argument looks lazy...

Who is sowing and who is reaping in the case at hand?

I am no health worker but the fact that Nigerian doctors are exploiting a skewed system to hold other health professionals to ransom is wicked, criminal if not satanic.

There has to be something patently wrong with the blackman's DNA/gene that predisposes him to injustice and unreasonableness...

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by stonemasonn: 10:05pm On May 10, 2018
MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. !
I’m not equating a specialist nurse with a specialist doctor, of course the doctor should earn more. What is the essence of studying nursing in the university if you can’t progress to a specialist. You mean biochemist, pharmacist, lab techs etc cannot be specialist in a specific area of their field? That’s unfair.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by MrBigiman: 10:06pm On May 10, 2018
HaneefahRN:



Such stup.idity in just a post. The dumbo is obvious

It sounds stupid. I can't also imagine the number of nurses that were slayed in my hostel back then. That is more stupid. Johesu my foot!

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by pxjosh(m): 10:06pm On May 10, 2018
MrBigiman:


It's already that way dude. Moreover a nurse cannot be specialist in Oncology, she makes no single decision the specialist does. Even if she has spent 20years, a Senior registrar who has spent 3 yrs in oncology should earn more. A Doctor trumps every other person in the hospital, the hospital was built for him and patients troop in to see him. All other thrashy workers should do his bidding or resign. If they want to be doctors they should have passed Jamb. 90% of Lab scientist filled in Medicine at one time or the other for God sake, so also 98% of male BSC Nurses, the non graduate nurses went to nursing school because they were too dumb to pass Jamb, today they want to be on the same salary scale as Doctor. Pure stupidity!

Imagine the trash you had to spill. The hospital was built for the Dr? What nonsense? I want you to go back and read what you wrote and ask yourself if you're actually being objective.

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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by frankpro27(m): 10:07pm On May 10, 2018
Hairyrapunzel:

What does a pharm D know about making diagnosis? Is it by knowing all drugs that makes a pharmacist a medical doctor?
Well, I guess not. Since they don't know the diseases they don't know jack.

That's the problem. U guys always think dat j knw it all Nd others ar dumb. Aside surgery, a hospital will run perfectly well without a doctor. Take that to the bank.

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