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|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Beaf: 7:46am On Jun 01, 2010|
==Ignores a fool==
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Yefet(m): 7:54am On Jun 01, 2010|
[size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt]I LOVE ISRAEL[/size][/size][/size][/size]
If you dont know about this conflict go and get a copy of the Bible written thousands of years ago and you will understand where all this started and where it's headed too. only blind people talk with fear and blame!
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by chisco82(m): 7:58am On Jun 01, 2010|
it is untill the UN carry out their ivestigation into this matter and pass their resolution that
we 'll know the main caurse of this.So let's keep qiut and see.
Isreali's can be so wicked and the Arab world could be so dangerous also.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Mubz(m): 8:08am On Jun 01, 2010|
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Beaf: 8:11am On Jun 01, 2010|
Bible? In what chapter can we find aid ships and helicopters?
I now see were some of the stranger arguments are coming from.
I hereby ban all Christains and Muslims from this topic.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Mubz(m): 8:15am On Jun 01, 2010|
plus u wldnt even know when israel used a phophorous bomb on a dense populated area occupied basically by palestines youth. u wldnt know , will u? u wldnt even care to, thats what ignorance does,
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by chisco82(m): 8:17am On Jun 01, 2010|
before anyone can post a coment, let him/her view this link
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Yefet(m): 8:19am On Jun 01, 2010|
Stop this Ignorant and religious hate that blinded your eyes. When Sadam hussein used Chemical weapon in Kurdistan did you ever know?
And if the "so called activist" had good intention why they never gave Egypt the aid to pass to Gazans? Or when Hezballah is being armed by Syria and Iran then the whole World is quiet and people like you are the one's hiding behind aid group (with militant agend) and claiming you want to help.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Tudór6(f): 8:32am On Jun 01, 2010|
Mubz:You have just confirmed yourself as a first class dolt. . .phosphorus bombs have now become NUCLEAR weapons??
what an .
Quote from: Mubz on Today at 08:08:44 AMSee how the fool tries to cover his lies by accusing me of not watching aljazeera. . . i laugh
you have been asked to provide links , hours later you're still yet to find it or is aljazeera hiding the video for copyright reasons? what a joker
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Mubz(m): 8:38am On Jun 01, 2010|
At this stage of the world, u still cant figure out that phosphorous bombs are classified as nuclear weapons, na wa ooo, where are u from?, seriously, which part of the world do u reside?
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Tbag09: 8:51am On Jun 01, 2010|
well, i think its not about the weapon in the ship, the blood thirst soldiers are aggressive.why id they have to go in lethal force if they want peaceful interseption, the israeli dont have jurisdiction on international water so why did they have to break international law, israeli have to be control because it seems they dont fear anybody, its just all about them alone,
one thing about OBAMA is that i think he dont have the power,pertainig to what he said "The president expressed deep regret at the loss of life in today's incident'' and that the prime minister should investigate, to investigate what??about the weapon??or the shooting, it seems he is aware of the interseption and regret of the life that was lost in the attack, had it been they are americans will he say the same thing, there is not justice, he should rebuke them if it is what it takes, they cant just break the law and go free!
its not about th arab league, let us come together as one and make things right, live in GAZA is unfair, aint no future for this people, I PRAY FOR CHANGES!!!
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Tudór6(f): 9:01am On Jun 01, 2010|
Your illiteracy is shocking, that you do not know is even more sad. . . pls provide ANY LINK to an INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION that classifies white phosphorus shells as
i'm not holding my breath . . .you've been asked to provide a link to back up your claim earlier today, all u returned with was useless rhethoric
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Beaf: 9:10am On Jun 01, 2010|
This is the obvious truth. I don't know why some of us have coloured our sense of morality so much with religion that we become blind to the obvious.
What is happening in Gaza is a disgrace to humanity; how much better is the situation there than it was in apartheid South Africa?
The only way Israel can ensure its security, is by finding an equitable solution to the Palestinian problem. It isn't by storming aid ships with commando's and shooting civilian volunteers dead; in fact I would say that the repercusions might be dire for all sides.
Are there real security concerns ob the Israeli side? Yes there are, but Israeli actions have started turning World opinions against them. Israel is beginning to look like a rogue state.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by texazzpete(m): 9:32am On Jun 01, 2010|
PLEASE! You're a disgrace to whoever financed your education. I don't care what side of the argument you're taking, whether you're pro-Israel or Anti-israel. It's bloody disgraceful to make this silly claim, and anytime you repeat this you show us how ignorant you are.
I mean, i knew what nuclear weapons were in JSS 2!
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by xxxnaijaxx: 9:33am On Jun 01, 2010|
Israel will fight till eternity, Even for bible self na war dem de fight, Mschew
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by texazzpete(m): 9:41am On Jun 01, 2010|
I think you're deliberately misstating the situation. Storming the ships with commandos was not necessarily a bad call. Would you have preferred they landed aboard the ships with Boy scouts?
We've seen videos that show the commandos being mobbed and beaten with sticks and bars. I don't know if you know this but beatings with bars and clubs are not fun. We've seen the Israeli soldiers being assaulted by the civillians. That alone is enough to put the lie to the claims from the organizers that resistance would have just been to stand in the way of the captains quarters etc. The activists actively attacked the IDF soldiers.
Please review the video evidence.
There's still a lot to condemn in the actions of the IDF, but to absolve the activists of all blame and responsibility and to neglect the video evidence of their armed resistance is a shocking case of bias.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by texazzpete(m): 9:45am On Jun 01, 2010|
Funny enough, weren't you among the ranks of those that jubilated when MEND sailed to Lagos' Atlas Cove and opened fire, killing innocent Naval personnel and civillians alike?
Six civillans killed in that attack - no word of condemnation from you then. Only pure, unalloyed joy.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Sagamite(m): 9:55am On Jun 01, 2010|
What are you talking about?
Sinking a ship you have not given permission not to enter your waters but disregard your instructions is not a declaration of war. It is well within your rights.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Sagamite(m): 10:03am On Jun 01, 2010|
If Isreal is allowed to ignore all sense to "protect" themselves, why should palestinians also not be allowed to ignore all sense to "protect" themselves?
Isreal attacked and killed unarmed people in international waters that were not a direct, immediate and uncontrolable threat to them.
It is a result similar to the same disregard for any sense which we see when they decide to indiscriminately demolish as many houses as possible in Palestine as a way of applying collective punishment (punishing people that are not a direct threat to Isreal).
Isreal attacked and killed unarmed people in international waters that were not a direct, immediate and uncontrolable threat to them.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by reindeer: 10:08am On Jun 01, 2010|
very very very unfortunate incident indeed.
Both sides have huge blames for this crisis but the israelis were too harsh in their response
but that does not absolve those who were warned about coming into those waters,also they should have allowed the soldiers check the consignments if there were no weapons on them.
It would appear that the ships sailed out for only one thing:confrontation and sure enough they got quite a dose of that.
Israel is a paranoid state(no thanks to surrounding enemies who want them wiped off the map.But the international bodies should come in and try to find a lasting solution.
Im sure isreal may end the blockade because of this but they will want guarantees that the place wont be used for launching rockets against her own innocent civil population.
whatever the case, this is a no win situation for either party and only cool heads will ensure more innocents will not die in vain.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by teskyg: 10:08am On Jun 01, 2010|
Fire @ all the Terrorist and all their supporters, Fire , Fire,
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by nearest(m): 10:13am On Jun 01, 2010|
What would have been a better way of diverting the ship since the captain refused to change course like the others did?
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Sagamite(m): 10:24am On Jun 01, 2010|
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Beaf: 10:25am On Jun 01, 2010|
Have you considered that the ships were not even headed for Israel? That's an important bit you're missing out. As for your talk of bias, can we keep the argument on the level? Its a bit lame to label opposing views as biased. Some of you guys seem to be getting all emotional for one reason or the other. Lets keep it to cold logic about right or wrong.
Greanpeace regularly employs very robust (some may argue, extreme) tactics against Japanese whalers, but you will never hear that Japanese commandos have shot at least 10 of them dead. Activists will always do what activists do, and that is defend their cause solidly. It was primitive to employ maximum force.
Joy?! Be real!
And can we keep to topic? It doesn't tell well when folk continually dredge up old arguments. Are we going to be talking about MEND when the topic is Israel and we are in the Foreign Affairs section?
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by texazzpete(m): 10:34am On Jun 01, 2010|
And i repeat : the video clearly showed [b]armed [/b]activists attacking Israeli commandos.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Sagamite(m): 10:36am On Jun 01, 2010|
Let me try analogies here:
If you are a Uzi sub-machine gun owner and a man threatens to kill you and then you see him coming at you with a hammer and knives, you are free to spray him with bullets and kill him.
If it is a 5 year old boy that is coming at you with slippers threatening to kill you. You put you gun down, turn him around, smack him on the back/bum/cheeks and then take him back to his mother and report him for misbehaving. You don't spray him with you Uzi sub-machine gun and then claim you were scared for your life.
If it was a military ship or a ship filled with military/militant people, then Isreal is within its rights to attack.
This was a ship filled with humanitarians from around the world. Not that much of a danger just like the 5 year old for Isreal to worry that much especially when their action was not stealthly.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Sagamite(m): 10:38am On Jun 01, 2010|
They [b]became armed (if you want to call it that) when their ship was attacked in INTERNATIONAL waters by super-armed (if you insist on calling the humanitarians armed, then we need to elevate this) Isreali soldiers.
They are allowed to protect themselves from such attacks by armed people as they were not in Isreali waters.
Don't climb their ships and they would not have needed to attack you with their "arms".
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Beaf: 10:39am On Jun 01, 2010|
As in my example above, Israel might want to learn about how the Japanese fend of aggressive Greanpeace ships annually. The unclothed display of force wasn't the most civilised thing they could have done. There are a thousand and one non-violent ways to stop or disable a boat of unarmed aid volunteers and activists.
In fact, another group of anti-whaling activists, SSCS have sunk 10 Japanese whaling ships, but we are far from seeing Japanese commando's pouring down from helicopters and shooting unarmed civilian activists in international waters. That is how to be civilised.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Pharoh: 10:41am On Jun 01, 2010|
What a thread.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by ajila03(m): 10:51am On Jun 01, 2010|
I think this is total madness and power-show,if the attack was the other way round am sure it have had more meanings with sanctions and condemnations coming from every where.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by hackney(m): 11:01am On Jun 01, 2010|
Israel is the only country in the world that suits the kind of muslim mentality we
have in the middle east.
They dont care how many Jihad countries surround them or about human rights of potential duicide bombers.
If you hit them they hit you harder. It's simple and it works.
Otherwise you will have these demonic idiots taking the piss.
They will end up on your welfare\state benefit (free everything o!)while preaching in the open that your trains and buses should be blown up with innocent 'infidels'.
Every country should borrow a leaf from the israelis.
Well , God promised isreal that they will never be defeated in war and im happy about it.
Fear tactics no dey work for jerusalem and for that i'm glad.
|Re: Israel Fires On Unarmed Aid Convoy. Many Dead! by Beaf: 11:10am On Jun 01, 2010|
Weren't they defeated just a few years ago in Lebanon?
For those paddling strange arguments, please watch the movie below, so that you can have an understanding of how activists go about their business in the West. Believe me, they know the law more than you and I too. Its a regular occurence, but no one has been killed in any primitive, gungho commando operation, yet Japan has lost 10 ships to such action. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/06/japan-whaling-sea-shepherd-greenpeace
The activists on that flotilla were from several different countries, there is even an American ex-ambassador involved, so please lets move away from the religious BS some folk are struggling to smuggle in. Let hard facts rule.
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