I still can't understand why everyone is having a go at Kaita. Yes he made a mistake , but again who doesn't ?and I think the Greek player overreacted. Kaita touched him with at the knee but the Greek started clutching his face.

And have we all forgotten Beijing 2008 Olympics where this same Kaita was very impressive?

Look Greece hired Otto Reheger before the the qualification of the 2002 world cup
by then Nigeria has hired and fired

Amodu
Onigbinde
Chuckwu
Equavon
B Vogt
Amodu (Looney decision)
Then Lagerback

Even against all odds Greece became European Champion due to better planning, nigeria naa,

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bgees:

I still can't understand why everyone is having a go at Kaita. Yes he made a mistake , but again who doesn't ?and I think the Greek player overreacted. Kaita touched him with at the knee but the Greek started clutching his face.

And have we all forgotten Beijing 2008 Olympics where this same Kaita was very impressive?

If you can't understand, SHARAP! Why won't everyone have a go at Kaita? Do you know how difficult it is to qualify for the World Cup? Do you know that the hopes of millions of Nigerians and black people all over the world have been crushed?

You are probably a fellow mallam who is defending your own.

Kaita in or out, we would have been beaten. Our coach na olodo!

make un tell me wetin 200 ministers and excluding their girlfriend go do for south africa? their aim is not to win but to make more money, wetin dey happen, we too like money,all ministers andnfa chairmen for each 36 states leave nigeria go south africa, shey na dem wan go play, obviousely the more they stay in south africa the more money they get,na their pocket dem dey afterall the min isters na aboki, the northerners,na must say one nothern person must be included in the super eagles team, it too much oooo!!!

@Mikeansy
You have started your illogical reasoning again

do you understand football at all? This is not finance or Politics o

There are things that can trigger a defeat in football. UTD lost to Bayern just because rafael bagged a red card; b4 that incident, the game looked like UTD were gonna score 6 goals
same thing happened yesterday, Nigeria was on the ascendancy with a goal and the tune of the game changed when kaita/calamity bagged a needless red card. We lost simply because one of the players acted daft not because the coach didnt prepare them
SAF still rues the loss to Bayern till today; It has nothin to do with the coach

as for ur NFF jibe,
ive told u, the local teams under th football admin of NFF are doing excellently in Africa. The SE are mostly foreign based and most times the Admin of football only affects them when they come together for about 3-4 weeks to prepare

Have you pondered on why countries like Switzerland, Greece, USA, Japan with the excellent football managers they possess havent been able to win the world cup or produce players like Zidane and co? How come the other countries in Africa are suffering the same fate as Nigeria on the global scene. Leave NFF out of your mediocrity, when there is a dearth of talent in a team, the resultant effect is what you saw yesterday

Cameroon are in the same position right now, before the era of zidan and zaky in Egypt, they were anonymous for a long time in Africa; Nigeria is facing a difficult patch right now and will only get over this if our youth teams produce talented players that can step into the shoes of the likes of Kanu and Okocha. as for now, we can only pray

NFF will not manufacture anothe Jay jay for u.
Jay Jay was never a product of NFA/NFF by the way

How many Ghanain players play in those clubs? How many Germans do? your disinterest in organisation would be good enough if Super Eagles were playing against Kano Pillars and measured by those standards but this is surely not the case on this situation. If we have no organisation we can not do well at the world, we will not produce magicians like Okocha every 4years. Such players come once in 50years.

Are you saying we should not go to world cup and hope to do well  untill we produce another Okocha?

How many countries have won the world cup in the last 50years without a decent and organised local league, local FA and committed football culture?

When Amodu was hired to coach our Eagles was he the best local coach in the country?

was amodu hired to fail so that they can prepare grounds to justify the hiring of a foreign coach on the advent of the world cup? hence opportunity to make money through big money deals?

was lagerback the best we could have? A man who could not qualify his own country for the same world cup?

How come lagerback's salary is similar to figure Glenn Hoddle claimed he was advised to quote if he wants to get the job of SE Coach? keep in mind Glenn Hoddle only wanted half of that amount?

Why did lagerback consider it necessary to lodge a copy of his contract with FIFA? what incited such a strange behaviour? has he gotten into some dirty deals with some members of those who hired him that he has found reasons not to trust them?

The whole hiring of a coach who only had 3 weeks to prepare his team for the world cup played a part in our failure surely and we should be asking if this scenario was by design and this responsibility falls on NFF's lap.

Honestly I am smiling and loving my beer. I am hoping that this failure sweeps the NFF away. This can happen and our football organisation will be better for it as a result of this failure at the world cup which is why this loss is not all bad news to me.

It is time for our ex-players who have played the game at the highest level take responsibility for football administration. they can not continue to leave it up to NFF to do what they like.some

Let the next NFF President be elected via a special football convention where all Nigerian players and ex-players who have played for a recognised football club both locally and internationally are asked to come together and vote for who the next NFF President should be. Let the process be transparent and let our ex-players present themselves for the election.

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Whats wrong with this team . I am tired of eagles



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tkb417:

@Mikeansy
You have started your illogical reasoning again

do you understand football at all? This is not finance or Politics o

There are things that can trigger a defeat in football. UTD lost to Bayern just because rafael bagged a red card; b4 that incident, the game looked like UTD were gonna score 6 goals
same thing happened yesterday, Nigeria was on the ascendancy with a goal and the tune of the game changed when kaita/calamity bagged a needless red card. We lost simply because one of the players acted daft not because the coach didnt prepare them
SAF still rues the loss to Bayern till today; It has nothin to do with the coach

as for your NFF jibe,
ive told u, the local teams under th football admin of NFF are doing excellently in Africa. The SE are mostly foreign based and most times the Admin of football only affects them when they come together for about 3-4 weeks to prepare

Have you pondered on why countries like Switzerland, Greece, USA, Japan with the excellent football managers they possess havent been able to win the world cup or produce players like Zidane and co? How come the other countries in Africa are suffering the same fate as Nigeria on the global scene. Leave NFF out of your mediocrity, when there is a dearth of talent in a team, the resultant effect is what you saw yesterday

Cameroon are in the same position right now, before the era of zidan and zaky in Egypt, they were anonymous for a long time in Africa; Nigeria is facing a difficult patch right now and will only get over this if our youth teams produce talented players that can step into the shoes of the likes of Kanu and Okocha. as for now, we can only pray

NFF will not manufacture anothe Jay jay for u.
Jay Jay was never a product of NFA/NFF by the way

@tkb417,

it is the job and obligation of the footballing authority of any nation to ensure that football is run and managed to acceptable standards within that country. Especially with issues like selecting the right coaches, plans for grooming a team so that they will not just be getting to know themselves and play together a few months before a major competition. It is the job of the footballing authority in any country to ensure that youth players are spotted early enough by the right coaches with sound technical know how to manage a football team in order to groom them for future national assignments. Every country I know in europe and south america do that but not our own. Infact we still have people like you asking questions like "is it the NFF/NFA that will manufacture an Okocha for you"? I mean if the NFF/NFA do not choose and appoint the right coaches for the job who will go out and scout for genuine Nigerian Talent who will discover the talents? Will the talents discover Themselves? Instead of doing the right thing people are busy eating bribe from all these old papa them simply because they play for clubs in europe and England just so they can wear national colours and keep playing for their clubs. Our egunje tradition has eating into our football and if you come sounding like you don't know then it is either you are in collaboration with the egunje league of traitors or you genuinely have got no clue about what is going on on or off the pitch.

medjai:

Kaita in or out, we would have been beaten. Our coach na olodo!

why are you guys laying the blame on lagerback, the man didn't cause our failure it is all because of lack of discipline on the part of the eagles that cost us this match.

@tkb417,

it is the job and obligation of the footballing authority of any nation to ensure that football is run and managed to acceptable standards within that country. Especially with issues like selecting the right coaches, plans for grooming a team so that they will not just be getting to know themselves and play together a few months before a major competition. It is the job of the footballing authority in any country to ensure that youth players are spotted early enough by the right coaches with sound technical know how to manage a football team in order to groom them for future national assignments. Every  country I know in europe and south america do that but not our own. Infact we still have people like you asking questions like "is it the NFF/NFA that will manufacture an Okocha for you"? I mean if the NFF/NFA do not choose and appoint the right coaches for the job who will go out and scout for genuine Nigerian Talent who will discover the talents? Will the talents discover Themselves? Instead of doing the right thing people are busy eating bribe from all these old papa them simply because they play for clubs in europe and England just so they can wear national colours and keep playing for their clubs. Our egunje tradition has eating into our football and if you come sounding like you don't know then it is either you are in collaboration with the egunje league of traitors or you genuinely have got no clue about what is going on on or off the pitch.

You dont get it do you?
NFF are supposed to spot the right talents, coordinate football very well to acceptable standards
yeah i agree

will that make you breed another okocha? or win the world cup or not lose to Argentina

There is a dearth of talent right now and thats just my point. NFF , SE, fans are all Nigerians and we are all part of the problem

Someone was saying ex footballers should b allowed to run football in the country in order to stem the rot in the system and another ignoramus lauded the idea as the best post. I chose not to respond because , at this level, i shouldnt be engaging in a free for all banter

who are the people running the FA in England? is it Gascoigne or Lineker? or is it Paul Ince?
what about Brasil? Pele or Falcao? was Ogunjobi not an ex footballer with shooting stars?

abeg, Nigeria got independence in 1960 and it took the country many years to qualify for world cup
was it because the NFA in those years were poor? The country only won the nations cup for the first time in 1980 on home soil b4 another victory in 1994. How come, we couldnt win between 1982-1992 was it cos the NFA was bad?

at a point in time of a nation, the country will experience all these, even Cameroon is experiencing the same thing; it may be long or soon, all i know is Nigeria will be back to its best

Even our best from time immeorial has been 2 nations cup victories and a round 16 berth in world cup
make we relax abeg

All I know is, The "Super Chickens" left one of their wings @ the Muritala Moh'd Airport and went to South Africa with just one wing each . Which make them unable to fly.
Up "SOPOOR EAGLES"

Ajayi123:

@tkb417,

it is the job and obligation of the footballing authority of any nation to ensure that football is run and managed to acceptable standards within that country. Especially with issues like selecting the right coaches, plans for grooming a team so that they will not just be getting to know themselves and play together a few months before a major competition. It is the job of the footballing authority in any country to ensure that youth players are spotted early enough by the right coaches with sound technical know how to manage a football team in order to groom them for future national assignments. Every country I know in europe and south america do that but not our own. Infact we still have people like you asking questions like "is it the NFF/NFA that will manufacture an Okocha for you"? I mean if the NFF/NFA do not choose and appoint the right coaches for the job who will go out and scout for genuine Nigerian Talent who will discover the talents? Will the talents discover Themselves? Instead of doing the right thing people are busy eating bribe from all these old papa them simply because they play for clubs in europe and England just so they can wear national colours and keep playing for their clubs. Our egunje tradition has eating into our football and if you come sounding like you don't know then it is either you are in collaboration with the egunje league of traitors or you genuinely have got no clue about what is going on on or off the pitch.

It is refreshing to know that there are people who can still think rationally.
TKB417 claims our local leagues are performing excellently and yet none of the local clubs have a player representing Nigeria in the World Cup and yet someone thinks thats good enough.

Believe it or not apart from the world cup, there is a football economy in Nigeria which we are not tapping and corruption in the FA has not allowed us achieve this. Why are Nigerian football fans in Nigeria fans of Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal instead of kano Pillars and Enyimba and yet you think our local football administration is alright.

If we had a functioning local league we will not need bench warmers in Europe to come and play world cup for us. Look at Marcelo of Real Madrid and Brazil for example. Because he is not playing well this season Michel Bastos of the Brazilian Local league is chosen ahead of him. There is no rocket science here, it is clear for all to see that the failure of football generally in Nigeria has a corelation with the failure of the NFF. However I dont expect anyone who is a stakeholder in the corruption and failure going on in the NFF to reason clearly along these lines

ucysiz:

why are you guys laying the blame on lagerback, the man didn't cause our failure it is all because of lack of discipline on the part of the eagles that cost us this match.

and whose responsibility is it to instill discipline in team?

if the players should be finish product before coming to play for Nigeria why do we need a big money wage eaner as manager then?

It is refreshing to know that there are people who can still think rationally.
TKB417 claims our local leagues are performing excellently and yet none of the local clubs have a player representing Nigeria in the World Cup and yet someone thinks thats good enough

The Brasilian league is one of the most respected in the world

how many players in this squad play locally in Brasil

Robinho is a Man City Player who chose to leave for home because of his probs with his coach- so dont even go there

what about the Argentines? CIV?

mikeansy:

and whose responsibility is it to instill discipline in team?

if the players should be finish product before coming to play for Nigeria why do we need a big money wage eaner as manager then?

when Rooney clapped his hands in front of a REF and got a needless red card
maybe SAF should have been sacked "for not instilling discipline" in the boi

hehehe

will a coach run to the field to stop the player from acting mad?

However I dont expect anyone who is a stakeholder in the corruption and failure going on in the NFF to reason clearly along these lines

are you smoking Indian hemp?
this is the third time someone on this forum feels i eat govt money

e be like say somethn dey worry all of una

i dey work for NFF abi na me employ Lagerback

tkb417:

The Brasilian league is one of the most respected in the world

how many players in this squad play locally in Brasil

Robinho is a Man City Player who chose to leave for home because of his probs with his coach- so dont even go there

what about the Argentines? CIV?

why do you prefer to compare yourself with failure all the time? why can't we be like the English, Americans, South Africans, Germans? Spanish? Brazilians? why can't we have a respected local league too? there is talent, there is passion and there is football followership in Nigeria but lacking in organisation which is where NFF comes in.


You want to compare yourself to CIV that perhaps has been in civil war in roughly 10years of the last 15.

If the NFF is or should be of no use to anyone why should we have one?

Veron plays for Estudiantes, Parlemo also play in local league but none of our local league players were good enough for world cup and yet you don't think that is a problem. There is a saying that a river without a source dries up quickly. That is clearly what is hppening to our football. Without a vibrant local league there will never be continuity in our football.

Veron plays for Estudiantes, Parlemo also play in local league but none of our local league players were good enough for world cup and yet you don't think that is a problem. There is a saying that a river without a source dries up quickly. That is clearly what is hppening to our football. Without a vibrant local league there will never be continuity in our football

but Kano Pillars beat Al Ahly

DULL futbal Players are base only here in Nigeria,

NO MORE NO LESS.

Question - Why is the national team made up of players based outside the country? Are they saying they couldn't have found home based player just as good or even better than these foreign players?

Our Naija mentality of thinking things outside our country is always better. . . Is what's costing us right now. These foreign players stroll in at the very last minute, barely have time to practice together before jetting off to play yet we expect success from? That's wishful thinking on the highest level.

Kaita or no Kaita, the super eagles weren't going anywhere, let's all accept it and just move.

Question - Why is the national team made up of players based outside the country? Are they saying they couldn't have found home based player just as good or even better than these foreign players?

The best 23 players of Nigeria are the ones on parade

it doesnt matter where they ply their trade
If most of them play in europe, its because the home based lads are not just good enuff

Brasil has 95% of their squad playing outside the shores of the country, same goes for argentina

even the dutch have their best players outside eredevise
Its not a 9ja problem. Professional players would always want to play in good leagues and i dont think our local league is up to standard yet

First it was "SANI" Abacha, Then "SANI" Yerima, Later "SANI" Lulu, now it's "SANI" Kaita.

For how long sha we allow SANI(s) to soil the name of our country. . .?

[Quote]The best 23 players of Nigeria are the ones on parade[/quote]

Now that's worrisome.

Sisi_Kill:

Now that's worrisome.

Ignore the guy because thats not true


Olubayo Adefemi would have added a very important youth on the right back if chosen

Peter Utaka (not John Utaka) would have finished clinically that placing that Yakubu missed before Obasi failed to score in an open net.

Solomon Okoronkwo would have brought the guile and pace needed to unlock defence from the right flank. He did this skillfully at the last olympics in Beinjing.

Anichebe would have given an option from the bench which Kanu Nwankwo was too old to give.

Even our best defensive pair from the selected 23 was not even used. Go and re-watch the two goals scored by Greece yesterday and pay attention to our central defenders. Some times they are just content at watching the opponent have a shut at goal and hope that it does not go in.

Largerback simply does not know our best players nor does he know the best formation to suit them. They claimed after the interview that the reason lagerback was hired was because he knew so much about our players but unfortunately our performances and his choices of players show that claim was another media spin by NFF.

Sisi_Kill:

Now that's worrisome.

what was our highly paid coach doing in the first place playing Kiata a defensive midfielder on the right side of the midfield? why make a simple game so complicated? is Kaita ever in a million years go past a player on the right side of the midfield and deliver a teasing cross into the box?
Largerback lost the game from the selection even before the chickens went out to play

we could debate this from now till whenever but the reality remains our chiken eagles are coming home once again with nothing to show for their efforts!  

Sisi_Kill:

Now that's worrisome.

thats the problem we are facing
we dont have exceptional players anymore