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Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 6:26pm On Dec 06, 2013 |
agbotaen: 1. laire is one of the greetings of owa kingdom and my idumuzomor people so with that it means we are from ogiamen family but right now i am an ika man period , i am not benin .you are such a confused man with confused ancestry 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Pharoh: 6:28pm On Dec 06, 2013 |
It is a joy when you ruffle some feathers with facts and see them shaking like a wet duck. |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Nowenuse: 11:45pm On Dec 06, 2013 |
agbotaen: 1. an ika man has never called himself delta igbo , it is igbo propagandists and those who are ignorant of where we come from that call ika delta igbo , infact majority of ika people detest being called igbo of any sort , we are ika pure and simple. no one is saying we dont have relationship with igbo , so we cannot also deny our relationship with others like the edos too. Agbotaen. Well I really admire ur vast and in depth knowledge of ur ppl. But I think u should know dat just as u claim that an Oshimili or anochia person can not speak 4all aniomas, likewise u should know that u urself don't speak for the whole ika/agbor people. Though I'm not from Delta state, but I was born and bred in the state, I have really met with a lot of aniomas, evn more from agbor/ika as close family friends, and I must tell u dat u r d first I'v met who have claimed dat ika people don't identify thesemselvs as Delta igbo. All d rest I'v met will readily accept that they are Delta igbos/ Anioma from agbor. One tin I sure know is that they hate being called Igbos, but if u call them delta igbos, they are OK and accept well. Even this ika u are shouting, I hardly hear many of ur ppl claimin ika as an identity, worst they say they are from agbor. I must tell u dat Delta state recognises five major ethnic groups only, Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw, Itsekiri and Anioma (delta igbo). With the way u talk, I see dat u personally really have and show very strong bini affiliations. Yes, ur ppl r a mixture of igbo and bini elements, while some of u bear more bini ancestry, others bear more igbo ancestry. All my growing up in delta state, warri precisely, we have always seen and adressed y'all from delta north (from Asaba to Anochia to kwale to Obiaruku to Agbor) as delta igbos. All this ur preaching of ika as a seperate identity and nation, none of us recognise. I wonda what that will really tell u. With all ur claims of attachment to Bini (that I'm not against), I don't see the average bini man of today eva accepting you as his brother or even acknowledgin ancestral relationship with you, that may have transpired in the past, and the knowledge of it gone with the older generations or still minimal amongst the elderly ppl. Yes I know there were igala (ebu) and olukunmi (yoruba) who came an settled amongst u delta igbos, but they were absorbed by the larger anioma culture, though som still retain their differences, nd u must know dat such a phenomenon is common with almost ervy tribe, where u find some with different ancestries who come to settle amongst the mainstream and are absorbed. The hausa ppl u know today are not a ppl of one ancestry at all! Many of them are absorbed tribes, especially those from Bauchi, Sokoto, kebbi e.t.c. Some of them also are ancestrally fulani but have bcom culturally and linguistically hausa and even if they go back to identify with their pure mainstream cultural fulani, they are not well accepted and recognised. This is among the reasons why u see a kind of merged hausa/fulani identity today. What about the igalas, idomas from the middlebelt and their neighbouring igbos? Many igbos from enugu and anambra today know well that they are of igala ancestry as well as many igalas today know they are of igbo ancestry. If u go to igalaland u'll find some igalas that look so much 100% like igbos, others like abokis (hausas) with like tribal marks, some like yorubas also. They themselvs all acknowledge their different ancestries, but they have held on to a common igala culture. My point is that, it is not necessary that ppl who profess a common ethnicity must be of the same primordial pure breed ancestry. No sir! There can be difrent ancestries in a common culture. The determining factor of an ethnicity is mostly culture and the stronger/founding culture and ancestry of the merging ancestries should be the one that the other ancestries will submit to and accept modification. But in some rare cases though, hybrids are created which will be almost a clear 50/50 between the merging ancestries and cultures and will resemble neither of the parents cultures/ancestry more, hence will evolve into a new ethnicity. If u also take a look at the nupes in central nigeria, they share boundary with yorubas and hausa/fulanis to an extent with which they have partially intermixed. The nupes in kwara appear more yoruba-ish in both dialect and culture while some nupes in Niger which r very close to fulanis and have inter-mixed appear more fulani both in dialects and cultures. But this has not really stopped the nupe nation from seeing themselves as one. So I believe with this, it's really up to the ika people to converge largely and decide which culture they are to adopt and adhere to more, they should try to keep their ancestries behind a bit, as it would do no good in uniting them better. A very distict Ika tribe/ethnicity officially I think will hardly work out considering the great bond with the larger Anioma nation with which they have been identified for long. Their collective final decision I believe all should respect, but I tell u, dat if u ppl choose to accept the larger Anioma identity, then u ppl wuld also be associated with the Delta igbo identity and further, larger igbo identity, cos the Igbo elements in Anioma land as a whole is surely stronger than the bini/Edo, igala or yoruba element and hence must submit! 7 Likes |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Nowenuse: 11:56pm On Dec 06, 2013 |
Agbotaen, I also want to ask u. If per-adventure Nigeria breaks up today (which we don't pray for). Where will the Ikas be? In d proposed Niger-delta republic or Biafra with other igbos? I surely know that many Aniomas will go with their south-east brothers than prefer to go with Niger-delta republic. I also want u 2know that if per-adventure Ika or any oda Igboid groups goes with Niger-delta identity 2day or a republic per-adventure break-up, they will smell real marginalisation and discrimination! because for all the other niger-deltan minorities like Urhobo, Bini, Ijaw e.t.c care you are all Delta igbos and further igbos, they will always see u ppl as aliens who should rightly be with other igbos. That's also similar to what u ppl are facing in Delta state today, the rest Niger-delta tribes feel it's like a taboo for a Delta igbo (also igbo to them) to rule a state like theirs, in spite of the fact that u ppl are kind of the majority with more LGAs. I really hope u are seein my point in all these. Pls don't think I am Igbo or have any affiliation with Igbo in anyway, I am from the middlebelt, but only born and raised in Delta state. 3 Likes |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by olisaokere(m): 12:14am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Fact still remains that be it Delta Igbo,Igbo,ibo,western igbo,eastern igbo still remains same thing and meaning- IGBO. Delta Igbo was used to actually differentiate Igbos of delta state from other tribes also found in Delta State like the Urhobos,itsekiris,ijaws,isokos..Nowadays a lot of us would love to be referred as Igbos of delta state rather than delta igbo and we are hoping to get our Anioma State soon and leave delta state for good. Back to Ika and its communities,Every Ika clan have its origin. While that of Agbor is debatable ie the original inhabitants,Owa was largely derived from people who came from Nri which in Ika dialect is called NHI OR IHI. It's true that is Owa Ofie is the aboriginal people of Owa and they came from Benin. But in size Owa Ofie cannot be compared to the people who came from Nri whose descendants dominate Owa Oyibu,Owa Alizomor,Owanta and Owa Alero. Owa Alero originated from migrations from Owa Oyibu and Ute Okpu. The Obi of Owa,HRH Obi Ikechukwu Efeizomor 11 has long emphasized that most of his people are of Nri origin. He stated this his book on community development in Owa kingdom and he topok pictures with the Ezenri in that book. The name Owa is of Igbo origin It means a partition ie a partition from Ute Okpu. In this regard ika people are not different from Nsukka people where monarchies also existed through the inluence from the Igala kingdom. In the past Nsukka people were not regarded as Igbos because of their unique cultures and languge. In fact Ika is more closer to "Igbo" than Nsukka. Also they bear such Igala names like Asadu,Idoko and Onoja. They have Igala deities. carry Igala tribal marks and have Igala masquerades. They also bear titles of Igala origin. So what is peculiar with Ika perhaps were governed as part of the old Western region. Ute Okpu,Owa and Ute Ogbeje were all part of the same migration from Nri 3 Likes |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by salam001(m): 12:45am On Dec 07, 2013 |
i love my brothers from delta state,i never knew this guy is from delta state,FRANCIS ODEGA,his dialect is exactly like that of onitsha ado n'idu people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD7rTjV2SJo&gl=NG&hl=en-GB&guid=&client=mv-google |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 3:07am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Pharoh: It is a joy when you ruffle some feathers with facts and see them shaking like a wet duck. i hate it when people twist the fact....whose history is this,you have not answered my question , why did benin fouunders jettison benin names,and embraced igbo names,cultutes and kingship. instead of oba they have obi ,eze and okpala. so did igbo colonisse ika and ukwuani. and pls ukwuani never said they are not igbo i go there evry time,my wife is from there neither have i ever hear them say that they are not igbo,neither from their elders nor anybody. they generally term is onu nuo....those that say welcome . is for the whole igbo speaking tribes be it in east or accross the niger. pls refute the histor THE HISTORY OF UMUKWATA AND OWAH ABBI Shortly after the foundation of Aboh, a number of settlements were made as offshoots of that migration. This was necessitated by the congested nature of the riverine clans, which permitted no further expansion. Different generals who accompanied the Aboh party therefore decided to return to Ukwuani hinterland where they had earlier observed wide expanse of unoccupied land as they previously migrated southward. The most important of these settlements are the Umu-Nze clans comprising Abbi, Amai, and Umukwata. It is generally believed that the founders of these independent settlements originally migrated from different directions but converged later at Aboh. They stayed here for some years but as a consequence of the disagreement with Aboh people, they left Aboh under the family name of Umu-Nze (Descendants of Nze) to found their own settlements. They moved northwards together with their families as nomads and when they arrived at their present site of Umukwata, the party established their first camp. After staying together for many years, Amai moved westward and founded Amai; Efi migrated further west founded Orogun and Amacha went southwest and founded Abbi. Ukwata, the oldest man among the leaders was left with his family to occupy the original settlement, which, his descendant named Umukwata (the descendants of Ukwata) after their father, Clan versions however, appear to differ in some details from this general view. The founder of Abbi Clan. One Amaha from Echalla-uku (the elders of Abbi are not sure of the location of his town but it is surmised to be inEastern Nigeria) and his brother Ukwata were said ‘to have strayed to Aboh settlement while hunting. At Aboh, they joined Efi, and Amai and later migrated with them to Ukwuani hinterland as a result of a quarrel with the Aboh people. After staying as a group for many years, Amacha with his family separated from the brother at the present site of Umukwata and journeyed southwest to lsu-Afo where he founded the Elovie and Umia quarters(jointly called Echella) of Abbi. Amacha’s hunting and nickname was Abbi. This popular name was therefore chosen to represent his settlement instead of his real name. The third quarter, Okwele is believed to been founded by a group of hunters who strayed on their journey southward fromBenin. As the settlement expanded, a group of people migrated from Umia quarter of Echalla to found Umuolu. These people were mainly from Onyugba family who went to Umuolu to fish and cultivate a brand of yam crop called “okom’. From Ogbe-ole section of Elovie quarter in Echala, the family of Utu packed away to Akoku where after many years founded the quarter of Umutu at Akoku later a dispute arose between Umutu and Obedeti quarters. This resulted in a bitter fight, involving loss of many lives. Umutu evenal1y fled from Akoku to their farmland near the bank of the Ethiope end, which led to the foundation of the present town ofUmutu. Another section of Abbi people migrated from Umia quarter and Ukanabouku section of Elovie quarter and settled in Umukwata farmland close to theEthiopeRiverand called their settlement Owa-Abbi This settlement was allowed, because of the special relationship between Amacha and Ukwata.How Obinomba came to be will be published after the launching. THE HISTORY OF AMAI Amai tradition claims that the founder of the Clan was one Amai, a elephant hunter from Igarra, who in course of his hunting reached the present site. Seeing that it was a pleasant country, he returned to Igarra and persuaded a number of his friends and relations to accompany him and settle there. Amai had four, sons: Ekwum, Nge, Aguma and Osele who later founded the Umu-ekwum, Amai- nge, Ishikagima, and Umu-osele quarters of Amai. The fifth quarter, an emigrant from Ubulu in Asaba Division founded Umubu, although he married an Amai woman Ekwum was the eldest son of Amai so that his quarter ought to have been the most senior in Amai Clan but Nge cunningly usurped this position by robbing him the custody of Aboh Nze royal cult. Earlier the Obi of Aboh had invited the children of Amai many years after their fathers death, to come to Aboh and receive the royal cult as the symbol of their authority and alliance with Aboh. The eldest member of the Clan was to be the custodian of the cult. Ekwum requested his junior brother, Nge to carry the cult as they were returning from Aboh but on getting to Amai, Nge refused to hand over the cult to Ekwum and eventually became its priest. This royal/religious authority from Aboh not only robbed Ekwum and his descendants their rightful status in the Clan but earned Nge and his quarter supremacy over all other quarters of Amai so that today the Okpala-uku of Amai-Nge is regarded as the most senior no matter his age among the five Okpala-uku representing the five quarters of Amai Clan. THE HISTORY OF UMUTU BY J.O.UTI OF UMUTU Between the tenth and fifteenth centuries there had been movements of tribes from one location to the other in the area now known asNigeria. These great waves of migration continued over the centuries for reasons which we can now figure out. Intertribal wars were common because of the struggle to occupy fertile lands for development. As people moved they were in family groups and joined people who had left in advance for their sites for greener pastures. The study of Okolugbo, a renowned Ukwuani scholar identified “three waves of migration” of the different communities which formed Ukwuani country before the arrival of the British people in the area. From the stories handed down from generation to generation in Umutu Community and from the relics available in the community the people of Umutu strongly believe that they are children of Utu whose ancestors migrated from somewhere in the Eastern side of the Niger to Aboh on the bank of the river Niger. The exact location of the place in the East is not known although it is believed to be the same place as Echalla-Uku from where Amacha the founder of Abbi migrated through Aboh. This explains the reason for the movement of Umutu people to Abbi in the second stage of their migration. Umutu people settled at Aboh with other families for centuries. They had one “Ndiche”, their family totem which they carried from their original home. This totem bound them together as members of Utu family who had one “Okpala-Uku’ and one “Ada”. As a result of frequent invasions from the Eastern War like tribes, Umutu people continued their migration in search of more peaceful land for development. They eventually arrived in Abbi and Settled in Ogbole quarters where their known kits and kins from Echala-Uku resided. While at Abbi the community experienced several invasions from the Eastern war-like tribes which were resisted. Many of the invaders were either captured and enslaved or killed MIGRATION TO AKOKU By the time the people of Umutu had lived in Abbi for several years they had become known with the age old appellation to their name as “Umutu Igili Ogbu- Orni” because of their fame for the production of a type of white yam known as “Omi” That appellation of “Igili Ogbu-omi” still remains in their present site and their kits and kins left behind at Ogbole quarter at Abbi. THE STORY OF THE CAUSE OF MIGRATION OF UMUTU PEOPLE TO AKOKU We have been told how invasions from Eastern War-like tribes continued at Abbi and how they were repulsed. The invaders finding that they no longer succeeded in their attacks made a charm which was placed on palm trees for the destruction of lives of inhabitants of the quarter. According to the story, it was calculated that whenever the palm fruits were ripe the people of Umutu at Abbi would die according to the number of fruits that fell from the trees Many people died as a result of the effect of this charm The cause of this heavy death toll was found out from an oracle The town was in a panic and the quarter involved fled in search of safer and more peaceful land. This happened in the time of Okpala Oke of Umuonya family Okpala Oke, the Okpala-Uku of the quarter was left behind by his children because they felt h was too old to be earned along Okpala Oke was thus left in grief to die with no one by him He therefore swore and pronounced a cause that no member of his family would live long enough to be an Okpala-Uku in future. He wept and died in grief in his departed quarter at Abbi. This ancestor was later appeased and the cause was removed in 1939 when a member of Umuonya family became an Okpala-Uku elect at Umutu. It was removed through a ceremony known in Ukwuani as ‘Isue Alua” in which it is assumed that the living is forgiven by the dead after the dead has been appeased. Umutu people had migrated on their way to a new land running for dear life and looking for fertile land. They moved in family groups until they arrived at a place near the present town ofUtagba-Uno. The community still experienced some invasions even when fertile land had not been found. The people moved further to a site near the presentAkokuTownwhere they met Obeti, Ugulu and Umuaja camped in different locations. The new groups were friendly people Thus families of Umutu emigrants settled in their own camp at Akoku with the other friendly quarters. |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 3:19am On Dec 07, 2013 |
olisaokere: Fact still remains that be it Delta Igbo,Igbo,ibo,western igbo,eastern igbo still remains same thing and meaning- IGBO. Delta Igbo was used to actually differentiate Igbos of delta state from other tribes also found in Delta State like the Urhobos,itsekiris,ijaws,isokos..Nowadays a lot of us would love to be referred as Igbos of delta state rather than delta igbo and we are hoping to get our Anioma State soon and leave delta state for good. THE MOST IKA ATTITUDE IS SHAMEFUL AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CALLED FAKES. NOT ALL SEE THIS. THAT WE ARE BEEN COLONISED BY BENIN DOESN'T MAKE THEM BENIN. THEIR ATTITUDE IS EMBARRASSING. I KNOW THESE AREA VERY WELL. I DID MY NYSC IN BENIN AND ORIENTATION IN ABUDU. THEY CALL IGBANKE AND IKA OVWIE IGBO...MEANING ONYE IGBO. THIS IS LIKE TRYING TO FORCE BENIN THAT NEVER HAD A PLACE IN HISTORY FOR YOU TO BELONG. I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW I CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH BENIN ANCESTRY WITH IT DESOLATENENESS AND FEMINISM.NEVER FOUGHT A SERIOUS WAR AND THEIR KING EXILED, THEY SHOULD HAVE COPIED NWACHUKWU WAR WITH BRITAIN THAT LASTED TEN YEARS OR THE EKUMEKU WARS OR WESTERN IGBO FLANK. WHAT BENIN GAVE US IS FRESHNESS AND DIABLOLISM. HOW CAN THEY ASSOCIATE WITH SUCH A DOCILE GROUP. WHEN BIAFRA OVER RAN THEM THEY DIDN'T EVEN RESIST. IT WAS A 24 HOUR CAMPAIGN WITH THEIR FAMED FRESHNESS. THEY COULDN'T WARD OF BRITHIAN NOR BIAFRA. WHAT A TOOTHLESS KINGDOM |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 3:29am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Nowenuse: Agbotaen, I also want to ask u. If per-adventure Nigeria breaks up today (which we don't pray for). Where will the Ikas be? In d proposed Niger-delta republic or Biafra with other igbos? I surely know that many Aniomas will go with their south-east brothers than prefer to go with Niger-delta republic. my dear you have spoken well...they keep playing ostrich and what you.said has started happening. the stupid ika in edo called IGBANKE are suffering pepper and we igbos are so happy they are suffering that cos they changed their original name igbo akiri to stupid IGBANKE by idiotic Samuel. now they wish...to be back....no they can't. the agbonteanu and pharoh here do not understand that they are igbo and seen as one. I told them to go ask other tribes who they are. I lived also in OKERE road warri so I know what am doing. to be frank I do not think ika knows what's they are doing to themselves. we igbos forgive easily but we don't forget and this reference point for me. a boy cv came to my box he bears agbontea and ifeanyi but I don't think I might take him,maybe he is confused. I won't want to hire dual identity confused person lol....but they are slicing the nose in order to spite the face. BROTHER FROM MIDDLEMEN YOU HAVE SPOKEN WELL. THANK GOD YOU ARE NOT IGBO AND YOU ARE TELLING THEM THE TRUTH. WE CALL THEIR TYPE IN EAST EFULEFUS.MAYBE FAKE IGBO WILL BE APT FOR SOME. |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 3:39am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Nowenuse: thank lord this is comming from a neutral mouth not even an igbo man mouth. we tell them that they are igbo but not that they are important to us. do you know that igbo and igalla has historical relationship but igalla is igalla not igbo. but ika is a part of igbo.we understand that people like agbontea his fore fathers were asylum seekers from Benin so he is a fake igbo...no apologies but we have pure igbos there from their names,actions you will know the real from fake. and agbontea is a fake. BROTHERS THANKS FOR REMINDING THEM. IN IGBO LAND THEY SAY IT'S ONLY A BASTARDSS THAT POINTS HIS FATHERS HOUSE WITH LEFT HAND AND 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 3:44am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Pharoh: It is a joy when you ruffle some feathers with facts and see them shaking like a wet duck.which feathers did you ruffled,where you swim in ignorance. you keep evading my question....how come UMUNNE and own that your so called fore fathers lie to you was established by Benin, have igbo town names.igbo language and igbo cuklture? pls fix this puzzle. did igbo colonised them or did they notice that Benin culture is stupid and they jettison it. pls answer me |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Pharoh: 5:02am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Some claimed not to be from delta state but only lived in warri but kept on using we core deltans lol like we do not actually know where they came from . . . |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 10:21am On Dec 07, 2013 |
Pharoh: Some claimed not to be from delta state but only lived in warri but kept on using we core deltans lol like we do not actually know where they came from . . .We know the core deltans and Edwin Clark made it clear. If not why looking for anioma state. Lol ....what an ostrich principle . My brother wake up from slumber |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by pazienza(m): 5:11pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
tonychristopher: *grins* |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Pharoh: 5:23pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
tonychristopher: The message was not meant for you actually so don't wet your boxers please, its getting embarrassing as you keep on going from page to page with this obsession. |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by rhowly(m): 5:59pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
Proudly Anioma. I understand when people especially Igbos say im Igbo. It makes perfect sense. But what's really annoying is why it's a big deal to them, why they carry on loooooonnnng conversations such as i've seen here just to prove we are Igbos. It matters little one way or another. Una number never plenty reach, abi una wan we waka come Onitsha or Enugu? Wetin consign una if them dey marginalize us for Delta, them dey marginalize Igbo nationally too na. Leave all this o jare. Waste MBs elsewhere 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Ngbokwu: 7:15pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
rhowly: Proudly Anioma. I understand when people especially Igbos say im Igbo. It makes perfect sense. But what's really annoying is why it's a big deal to them, why they carry on loooooonnnng conversations such as i've seen here just to prove we are Igbos. It matters little one way or another. Una number never plenty reach, abi una wan we waka come Onitsha or Enugu? Wetin consign una if them dey marginalize us for Delta, them dey marginalize Igbo nationally too na. Leave all this o jare. Waste MBs elsewherebaby girl, it seems what you enjoy hearing is when people who are originally Igbo say they are not. there is no point allowing miscreants continue to spread falsehood. People will always be there to correct the lie. Pikin wey say him mama no go sleep, that pikin too no go sleep. 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Pharoh: 7:30pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
Bwahahahahahahaha . . . . men this anioma of a thing is giving people sleepless night oooo and to think we are just starting self. 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by rhowly(m): 10:59pm On Dec 07, 2013 |
Ngbọkwụ:First im not female. Second I don't see Kabba & Yorubas going back & forth...so what's the big deal? Tell yourself whatever and say whatever it won't change what we decide our tribe to be called irreverent of all info tabled. Give it a rest o my brother. The convo is pointless |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by revolt(m): 12:27am On Dec 08, 2013 |
na wa o . tony and co pls free these saboteurs. I don't believe this threads still running 2 Likes |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by salam001(m): 9:24am On Dec 08, 2013 |
Nigeria: Ndokwa Not Igbo? It is Politics, Not Anthropology! BY PINI JASON, 3 OCTOBER 2006 OPINION In 1992, in the heat of Gen. Ibrahim Babangida's convoluted transition programme, a friend from Delta State with whom, in the 70s, we formed the addicted patrons of Fela's Shrine, from Kakadu to Surulere Night Club, came to see me in my office at Bishop Oluwole Street, Victoria Island. Because of Mallam Abba Dabo, publisher of the Insider Confidential Newsletter, which I edited, our Bishop Oluwole office was one of the hubs of politics then. In fact, the Liberal Convention, with my friend Chief Ojo Maduekwe as Gen. Secretary, was formed in our Insider office. And so we got into political discussion, which sometimes strayed into disputation settled over bottles of beer. My friend from the Igbo-speaking area of Delta (then Bendel) confided to me, what he called his political strategy. He said to me, look, there is no doubt that I am Igbo. I know that, and every Nigerian knows me as such. But as a political strategy, it suits me to identify with the minorities. As a minority, I have a better chance politically, than to identify with the majority Igbo and get swamped by their number. As a minority, I can contest any post and maybe win. But among my brothers, I cannot even emerge at a local government level. And true, my friend was one of the "political champions" in Bendel then! I understood him perfectly. 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 8:24pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
rhowly: Proudly Anioma. I understand when people especially Igbos say im Igbo. It makes perfect sense. But what's really annoying is why it's a big deal to them, why they carry on loooooonnnng conversations such as i've seen here just to prove we are Igbos. It matters little one way or another. Una number never plenty reach, abi una wan we waka come Onitsha or Enugu? Wetin consign una if them dey marginalize us for Delta, them dey marginalize Igbo nationally too na. Leave all this o jare. Waste MBs elsewhere I do want to state this clear. I don't have anything to loose if you dudes decides on whatever you call yourselves, you were mid west igbo,then bendel igbo,then delta igbo then anioma maybe to aniomanu but one thing is clear here. if you look at the people saying they ain't igbo they are the one we call fake igbo. it doesn't concern me a bit just that I want to straighten a whole lot of distorted history told to you guys but your parents but thank lord other tribes will remind you whom you are maybe when there is high level of amnesia. If you people notice my post I back em up with credible references not one stupid Facebook quote on newspaper cutting. another thing of note here is that those delta north that claims they ain't igbo look at them well. they are losers and I have come to realise that its empty vessels that makes the most noise. I haven't seen pat utomi, nduka of thisday or any obi or EZE say that they ain't igbo. but those that make noise the most are a few rotten Apple that wants to spit a whole lot. what am I driving at . you Acn decide to call your self anything even idiotic igbo. cos from mid west igbo to bendel igbo to delta igbo now anioma maybe next is idiotic igbo. don't you get ashamed. ALL I DO IS FOR POSTERITY REASON. I GIVE YOU RESEARCH SO THAT OTHER REASONABLE PEOPLE FROM THERE WILL SEE THE TRUTH AND LACUNA IN THE LIES YOU HAVE BEEN COOKING. as of some dudes like you. I will term you EFULEFU OR LOST SOUL...WHERE YOU LOST you were never igbo but a son of asylum seeker from edo |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 8:39pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
revolt: na wa o . tony and co pls free these saboteurs. I don't believe this threads still running Nna the truth must be told not for them,cos they are incorrigible but for reasonable sons of soil to see and take mental note. our people say when a lie has been told over and over it will have a semblance of truth. so we have to correct these distorted history then we can bid them bye bye maybe adieu or requiem like we did for IGBANKE in their sorry state. |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 8:43pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
rhowly: if you are not a female why take up female nomenclature...maybe a gay you are or a lesby...the starting point of identity crisis.....how can a full grown man go effeminate...must you be taken serously? the answer is no aturu muru ebule gba aka nwa....ndooo 1 Like |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 8:46pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
Pharoh: ab initio we have known that you are incorrigible and confused. so have you answered a simple question I asked you....how come umunede is an igbo word same with igbodo,igbo akiri yet they were formed by your masters the Benin. when you answer that .I will take you seriously,but as of now you are inconsequential |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by tonychristopher: 8:52pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
rhowly: Proudly Anioma. I understand when people especially Igbos say im Igbo. It makes perfect sense. But what's really annoying is why it's a big deal to them, why they carry on loooooonnnng conversations such as i've seen here just to prove we are Igbos. It matters little one way or another. Una number never plenty reach, abi una wan we waka come Onitsha or Enugu? Wetin consign una if them dey marginalize us for Delta, them dey marginalize Igbo nationally too na. Leave all this o jare. Waste MBs elsewhere today is Sunday . I am catching fun with the level of buffonry here. pls don't say we,but use I. not everybody in delta state sees this from your confused view. do you reason at al. asaba that are full blooded igbos has anambrarians swallowed them up? you do not only have identity issue but a complete complex syndrome. the fear of igbos is the beginning of wisdom. I think that's what they have told you. maybe your son of one itinerant Benin man trying to soil the names of other people. talk for yourself biko not for others ok. ask one funny esogbue the embarrassment he faced |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Pharoh: 9:11pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
tonychristopher: It seems you have not grasped the concept of igboid languages, if not you will not be asking this daft questions that my five year old cousin will be ashamed to ask after the points i gave you in the previous pages. |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by oturugo(m): 9:17pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
Pharoh: Poor boy, you have nothing sensible to contribute anymore. Go and rest Biko. It is clear you are not Igbo but do not make a mistake of saying ukwuala, Ukwuani or Ukwuana is not Igbo. Few of you who are not Igbo should leave Ndigbo alone either in the east or west of the niger |
Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by Afam4eva(m): 9:18pm On Dec 08, 2013 |
tonychristopher:Are you referring to Emeka Esogbue? What embarrassment was that? I know Emeka has been more into Anioma stuff than Igbo stuff that he used to be pre-occupied with. |
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