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You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by dre11(m): 10:32pm On Jul 11, 2018
Anthony Ani, a former director of mobilisation at the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC), says it is not proper to apply for exemption certificate from the scheme.
Speaking on Sunrise Daily, a breakfast programme on Channels Television, Ani said prospective corps members only present their credentials.

He said it is the corps that determines if a graduate would be exempted or undergo the one-year programme.

Premium Times had reported that the exemption certificate Kemi Adeosun, minister of finance, presented when she was appointed into the federal cabinet is fake.

But the NYSC responded saying Adeosun applied for exemption certificate and that it would investigate the issues raised by the newspaper.

However, Ani said applying for any certificate from NYSC is alien to the corps.
Below is the interview transcribed by Premium Times:


Under what circumstances, first, can you apply for exemption (from youth service)?

Thank you very much. First and foremost, I have to comment based on what I saw, the documents I saw, and if those documents were the documents claimed to have been submitted, erm, I want to emphatically say no, they wouldn’t have emanated from the NYSC.

One is that it is important for Nigerians to know the process of mobilisation in the NYSC. Section 2 of the NYSC Act which incidentally is embedded in the constitution under Section 315, states categorically that once you graduate, you are supposed to make yourself available for mobilisation. And you don’t apply for either NYSC certificate or NYSC certificate of national service or certificate of exemption, you present yourself for mobilisation.

The system will determine whether you are to be exempted or you are not to be exempted. So, according to the law, all those who graduated with effect from 1974, who studied abroad or in Nigeria, and you are not above 30 years at the point of graduation, you are supposed to make yourself available for mobilisation and you will be deployed. If you are above 30, you will be exempted.

The other category of graduates that will exempted are those who have served in the Nigerian Police or the military for not less than nine months, if you have an honours award, if you are with the defence or security (DSS, or NSO as it used to be).

These are the only people that have been exempted. But even if you graduate at the age of 20, you are in US, and you have not made yourself available to be mobilised, whenever you come back, even if you are 60 years, you have to undergo the NYSC.


Let me jump in and ask. The NYSC themselves released a statement saying yes, they saw the application for exemption. Doesn’t then suggest that a certain process is on?

Erm, maybe somebody must have applied, but that is not the process. You can write, but that is not the process. I have told you the process, you [have to] make yourself available. During mobilisation we announce that we are doing mobilisation process.

Those who graduated in Nigeria, their student affairs officer brings the list of those who are graduates and we begin processing it. Now, anywhere in the world you are, you [can] access us online. If you are a graduate of any university outside the country, you [can] access us. You will now fill the form you will upload everything about you: your international passport, your certificate, school cert certificate, your transcript, everything will be uploaded and it is processed.

In fact the system has now been designed that once you are above 30 the system will automatically put you for exemption. But if you are less than 30 or you are 30 at the time you graduated, the system will mobilise you.

If I understand you clearly, if one is below 30, you have to make yourself available then you are deployed so…

[Cuts in] Exactly! You either be deployed or you be exempted. If you above 30 years, even if it [by] one day, you will be exempted. But if you are below 30 or you are 30 you will be deployed.


But can’t people make themselves available, if they are below 30 and still be exempted upon application for exemption, or it doesn’t apply?

It is not so. It is not possible because it is against the NYSC Act.


So, in this particular situation now, when you apply for exemption, you’re expecting a certificate back. How long does this process take?

No, no, no! That is what I am saying [by] the NYSC procedure, you don’t apply for exemption and expect a certificate. You make yourself available [for mobilisation], when you are mobilised, those who are to be exempted are exempted and those who are to be deployed are deployed. And just as we are preparing call up letter for those who are being deployed, the exemption certificate is prepared down. It doesn’t take any time at all.


I am also wondering that in this particular case, the one being investigated by the authorities of NYSC, if for instance, a candidate goes through school, graduates and then at a certain point he is perhaps ill and is unable to avail himself at the point where he is about to turn 30 but has already undergone the process. What happens?

No, no. Even when you are sick, look at the point. At what point did you graduate and what the law says at the point you graduate even when you are sick the NYSC, even when you are wick, will take care of you that if you are strong enough to come in and serve. If you are not strong enough, after you are well you go through your school and then you present yourself but you will still serve because you graduated when you are less than 30.


What if I graduate when I am below 30 but I did not get to serve or I delay until when I am above 30 and then I come to NYSC. Can’t I be exempted?

If you read Section 2, I mean Section 13 of the NYSC Act, ordinarily, not making yourself available for service is a criminal offence. Not making yourself available is a criminal offence. However, whenever you want the NYSC certificate, whether you delay it until your are 60 years old, you must come to serve! You must come to serve because you graduated when you were below 30. That is the law. That’s the law!


Okay I am just wondering now because this particular case, the system has gone through all of those documents: Ogun state government, the Presidency, the DSS. Doesn’t this mean there isn’t any penalty?

I wish you go through Section 13 of the NYSC Act. If you give false information concerning the NYSC you are liable. If you present a certificate that was not issued by NYSC, you are liable. It’s a criminal offence. Whoever is employing anybody in this country whether private or government, once you are coming in to take that appointment you are supposed to present your NYSC certificate; either Certificate of National Service or Certificate of Exemption. And it is also the responsibility of your employer to request for it, that is what the law says.

Now, like any other society, there were some people, prior to the time we computerised the NYSC (and I must give thanks to the past two DGs and the present one on ground –these are the people who made sure we computerised the NYSC.

Arising from the faults that was taking place in that system, we had syndicates who were not even NYSC staff but they were printing NYSC call up letters, NYSC certificates and doing all sorts of things.

But these gentlemen, the two past DGs and the present one, insisted that the thing must be computerised. Right now as I speak, no one can falsify NYSC certificate, NYSC call-up letter, or even the operations because even for you to register in camps you have to register with your thumb-print, biometric. So that aspect is gone. But there was a time when even in Area 10 [in Abuja], they were producing NYSC certificates and misleading people, collecting money and doing it. But NYSC has put a stop to that.


Let me come in here, because you have been in the system and know the process from A to Z Can you categorically tell us if the certificate is fake or genuine?

The certificate that I saw, that one that I saw, the one that I saw online, if it is the real one that they are talking about, it was not issued by the NYSC. I don’t know who issued it. It was not issued by NYSC.

Because what I saw there, the signatory to that certificate was our DG who left in January and General Tsiga took over from General Bomoi. General Tsiga was a sitting DG as at that September, 2009. I don’t know where the certificate came from but NYSC cannot make that mistake. The NYSC that I served, that I know, can never make that type of mistake.


Even though you said in the past you had come across where certificates where forged and the system is sanitised under the current and the past DG. So it is very likely, the processes in the past we had many irregularities not necessarily the fault of the candidates themselves?

No, no, no! The process was okay. But because it was manual and we had not computerised, people from outside capitalised on it, misleading members of the public collecting money and giving certificates. You must have heard when we had fake NYSC camp. [inaudible] But we had to put a stop to all these through this computerisation. So, what I am trying to say is that even members of staff, you had to go to the right person to make inquiry.

You don’t meet anybody standing in NYSC office and then you ask him; you go to the director in charge or you go to the DG.
So, our system had always been perfect.

Our system had always been there but you know, as the corps members had been increasing and everything, there was need to computerise and there was need to check whatever excesses that was happening outside the system because when it happened they will be calling NYSC, people will be calling NYSC. But that certificate definitely, NYSC cannot write that type of certificate.


Which one did you say you saw online?
Because there may be several ones now, is it the one reported by PREMIUM TIMES you saw?

Yes, the one reported by PREMIUM TIMES.


Why are you saying that the NYSC cannot make that mistake in terms of the signature by Bomoi?

I have told you there are two things there, Chamberlin. NYSC cannot say you are exempted as the result of age when you are less than 30, that is number one. Number two, the signatory on that paper that I saw, the person was no longer the DG sitting at that time, and we don’t make such mistakes. We don’t make such mistakes, yes!


https://www.thecable.ng/dont-apply-exemption-certificate-says-ex-nysc-director


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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by Firefire(m): 10:39pm On Jul 11, 2018
Kai!


Sister Kemi, why? why have you choosen to digrace us this way? Why forged an ordinary NYSC certificate?

Anyway, we demand Mohomodu Buhary to produce his WAEC certificate before taking any decision on Sister Kemi.

Thank you.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by GworoChewinMaga: 10:40pm On Jul 11, 2018
Kemi is a gonner.

The Cabal wants her out and this is why...



The Cabal are behind Kemi-Gate

Premium Times did not just one day decide to go dig in on Kemi's NYSC claims but rather got a tip-off from a very credible and highly placed source within the Presidency.

Premium Times stated that their investigations into Kemi's NYSC certificate scandal began sometime in early April of this year.

The current "under-recovery" fraud claim being perpetuated by the NNPC first reared it's head in March. The excuse presented by the NNPC management over the significant short fall of oil reciept revenue to the Federation account did not sit up well with governors across the nation as there was a unison bi-partisan rejection by governors of the 36 states to this excuse made by the NNPC.

One of the most, if not most powerful men in Buhari's cabinet , Abba Kyari is currently on the BOT of the NNPC. He is believed to be the real substantive Minister of Petroleum and Buhari's confidant and adviser into the oil industry.

The Department of State Security (DSS) are the ones who provided the tip off to Premium Times as they are the ones who vetted and screened and gave her a clean bill which they submitted to both the President and National Assembly for nomination and confirmation respectively as Minister of Finance. If anyone will know about Kemi's certificate forgery it is the DSS!

The National Assembly has no hand in Kemi's on-going NYSC forgery case as NASS only works with submissions from the DSS. This is why the same Senate refused to confirm Magu as substantive EFCC chair based on the DSS report submitted to it.

Screening of Presidential appointees is done public and members of the public are encouraged to submit their reservations on the confirmation of any such nominated candidate.

To even blame the opposition is ridiculous to say the least ad they would have used the Senate screening to disgrace Kemi if they knew about her NYSC certificate forgery.

Kemi's travails began when she refused to accept the NNPC's official "claims of under-recovery" which the latter claimed was reason behind the short-fall of crude oil sales remittance despite a surge in both oil output locally and a rebound in cost of crude in the international market. The claim that NNPC was subsidizing on it's own without budgetary provisions the pump price of PMS was a scandal on it's own. The powerful cabal had expected Kemi to at least support the subsidy narrative but rather she openly rejected the NNPC claims and agreed to set-up a panel consisting of commissioners of finance and Governors across the Nation to investigate the NNPC claim.

In-short Kemi-Gate is a ploy by the Cabal to get rid of Kemi as Finance Minister and replace her with someone else who will be able to help them conceal the massive fraud currently going on at the NNPC.

In as a much I have no single fcks to give over Kemi's current predicament as it is obvious she is guilty of both forgery and pejury, it is important to note here that the scandal is not the doing of the NASS or opposition figures trying to blackmail Kemi as the Zombies of BMC have been shouting since the scandal broke, but rather Kemi's travails are the handwork of very powerful people within the Presidency and NNPC, who as things appear, have the full backing of the President himsel

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by TheFreeOne: 10:41pm On Jul 11, 2018
Chai Kemi don enter am cheesy

Why is forgery synonymous with APC since 2015.

Even their oga at the top 'Na forger'.

Who remembers the Toronto certificate case aka ojuyobo? Na 'forger'

Almost everything about this government Na fake/lies.

If Nigerians should insists on scrutiny of certificates of serving politicians and appointees we'll be blown away with the gargantuan of forgery that'll be exposed.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jul 11, 2018
In another news...

How Putin will be looking at Queen Elizabeth this morning ..

It can still come home grin grin

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by Nbote(m): 11:12pm On Jul 11, 2018
We don't need a soothsayer to know d reports are actually true... We also know dey are trying to use d delay to formalize d said forgery and we also know nothing will happen as dis will b swept under d already swelling carpet... If d President hired SANs to defend his not having a certificate, how would any sane person expect d same govt to do anything about a certificate forgery. If d govt claims dey are unaware of d forgery in d first place, thunder from Ogun and Amadioha combined with extra help from Thor will strike dem

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by delpee(f): 11:23pm On Jul 11, 2018
GworoChewinMaga:
Kemi is a gonner.

The Cabal wants her out and this is why...




Interesting! I don't know what to believe these days.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by almajiri101: 11:36pm On Jul 11, 2018
Liar and incompetent man, says who NySC don't issue exemption letter to corp members below 30? One need to present reasons for an exemption and your reasons will be investigated, if genuine and convincing, Nysc would definitely grant your application.

Secondly, exemptions are done through applications and i have seen people who paid money to exempt, the certificates were not given to them until the end of the service year. This mumu man is nothing but a stupid liar.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by Paperwhite(m): 11:40pm On Jul 11, 2018
Number two, the signatory on that paper that I saw, the person was no longer the DG sitting at that time, and we don’t make such mistakes. We don’t make such mistakes, yes!

The certificate that I saw, that one that I saw, the one that I saw online, if it is the real one that they are talking about, it was not issued by the NYSC. I don’t know who issued it. It was not issued by NYSC.

Because what I saw there, the signatory to that certificate was our DG who left in January and General Tsiga took over from General Bomoi. General Tsiga was a sitting DG as at that September, 2009. I don’t know where the certificate came from but NYSC cannot make that mistake. The NYSC that I served, that I know, can never make that type of mistake.

Kemi is done & dusted.The annoying silence is also an answer.Santimonious government filled with certificate fraudsters.From Buhari, Tinubu, Obono-Obla, Adams Oshiomole among many.
Joe Igbokwe where are you. angry

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by RussianKGB: 11:42pm On Jul 11, 2018
The extent of embarrassment this APC govt has brought upon Nigerians is monumental. It has surpassed 16yrs of pdp plus military rule combined.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by almajiri101: 11:44pm On Jul 11, 2018
RussianKGB:
The extent of embarrassment this APC govt has brought upon Nigerians is monumental. It has surpassed 16yrs of pdp plus military rule combined.

Ipob, i sight u

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by RussianKGB: 11:54pm On Jul 11, 2018
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almajiri101:


Ipob, i sight u
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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by nelxxy(m): 12:05am On Jul 12, 2018
almajiri101:
Liar and incompetent man, says who NySC don't issue exemption letter to corp members below 30? One need to present reasons for an exemption and your reasons will be investigated, if genuine and convincing, Nysc would definitely grant your application.

Secondly, exemptions are done through applications and i have seen people who paid money to exempt, the certificates were not given to them until the end of the service year. This mumu man is nothing but a stupid liar.

ignorance is a disease

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by slivertongue: 1:47am On Jul 12, 2018
i don tire 4dis matter. hw does dis solve d anarchy &poverty in d land? She is guilty bt dis case is a litmus test 4GMB

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by Notmyproblem: 4:42am On Jul 12, 2018
nelxxy:
ignorance is a disease

What you expect of an almajiri? grin

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by nnachukz(m): 4:44am On Jul 12, 2018
Looking at everything now, it is becoming more clearer that Kemi followed the footsteps of Buhari in certificate forgery.
Soon they might end up in court and she will just like Buhari bring multitude of SANs to defend the forged certificate instead of just explaining how she got hold of such dubious thing.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by e7ejinima: 4:57am On Jul 12, 2018
Pls they should edit the write up in the link below.

It's now Adeosungate: 9 things you need to know.

The 9th is You don't apply for NYSC exemption, only present yourself for mobilisation and the rules apply, the system decides.



https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/275674-adeosungate-eight-things-to-know-about-ministers-questionable-nysc-certificate.html

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by nnachukz(m): 5:14am On Jul 12, 2018
almajiri101:
Liar and incompetent man, says who NySC don't issue exemption letter to corp members below 30? One need to present reasons for an exemption and your reasons will be investigated, if genuine and convincing, Nysc would definitely grant your application.

Secondly, exemptions are done through applications and i have seen people who paid money to exempt, the certificates were not given to them until the end of the service year. This mumu man is nothing but a stupid liar.

Now because of Kemi you have become more knowledgeable than a high ranking staff of NYSC who has backed all his response with a reference to NYSC Act for you zombies to go and crosscheck. But No, instead you will resort to name calling. A characteristic inbuilt in all APC supporters.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by meezynetwork(m): 5:23am On Jul 12, 2018
Ok na
Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by abumeinben(m): 5:26am On Jul 12, 2018
Prof Kemi, what tdo you have to say?

Prof. Kemi, looking in British accent...

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by almajiri101: 5:26am On Jul 12, 2018
nnachukz:

Now because of Kemi you have become more knowledgeable than a high ranking staff of NYSC who has backed all his response with a reference to NYSC Act for you zombies to go and crosscheck. But No, instead you will resort to name calling. A characteristic inbuilt in all APC supporters.

High ranking my foot, he got the job through man no man tactics. I was once a corp member and i know the process.

This man is either incompetent or paid to fool himself around. Why would someone say exemptions are not done through application and only meant for above 30yrs?

Redeployment and exemptions are done through application and it has to be on genuine and convincing reasons

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by almajiri101: 5:29am On Jul 12, 2018
nelxxy:
ignorance is a disease
Ipob tell me what you know about the process.
Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by BeeBeeOoh(m): 5:50am On Jul 12, 2018
shocked


So, what it means is that out "Minister of Petroleum and Minister of Finance" have something in common??


E don really be for Nigeria angry

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by nnachukz(m): 6:14am On Jul 12, 2018
almajiri101:


High ranking my foot, he got the job through man no man tactics. I was once a corp member and i know the process.

This man is either incompetent or paid to fool himself around. Why would someone say exemptions are not done through application and only meant for above 30yrs?

Redeployment and exemptions are done through application and it has to be on genuine and convincing reasons
I see, 1yr service experience which all of us including this man have had, has now made you so experienced in the job more than every other person including the man with over two decades of experience in the service.
Hmm, I just took a second look at your Monika now.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by BIAFRONIGERIAN(m): 6:22am On Jul 12, 2018
It is finished embarassed

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by fergie001: 6:33am On Jul 12, 2018
The person who said he applied for nysc,who did you address your letter to?
I was mobilised,not by filling any application form...but by presenting myself via a mobilisation form.....
So,the Oga up there,did you apply to your VC or rector or nysc DG?

We don't need a magician to know that certificate is 'Oluwole-inspired'.Its just unfortunate that the DSS,NA,and the '13 SANs man' had to put us through this global disgrace.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by dyydxx: 6:37am On Jul 12, 2018
GworoChewinMaga:
Kemi is a gonner.

The Cabal wants her out and this is why...




what is the source of your quote?

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by almajiri101: 6:40am On Jul 12, 2018
nnachukz:

I see, 1yr service experience which all of us including this man have had, has now made you so experienced in the job more than every other person including the man with over two decades of experience in the service.
Hmm, I just took a second look at your Monika now.

You must be a dullard, two of my female friends applied for an exemption and their applications were granted. If you know so little about the process, don't you also know about redeployment? same process goes for the both.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by flyca: 6:41am On Jul 12, 2018
When Nigerians were asking President Buhari to show his certificate, paid miscreants littering online had this favorite phrase "is it certificate that will do the job?". We can now see why it is very crucial that the president should lead by example? Now forge-forge oluwale papers has become the order of the day in the top cabinet. Even Bubu does not have the moral justification to pull this string.

Anybody still claiming "we are going to do/ doing investigation" unending in this case is simply doing disservice to the nation. We do not need a soothsayer to tell us that the certificate is FAKE. Simple.

Madam Kemi should face the full wrath of the law.
The thing is that most of them in main stream politics are also parading one fake crediential or another. So in the Nigeria I know, it will be swept under the carpet.

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by almajiri101: 6:47am On Jul 12, 2018
fergie001:
The person who said he applied for nysc,who did you address your letter to?
I was mobilised,not by filling any application form...but by presenting myself via a mobilisation form.....
So,the Oga up there,did you apply to your VC or rector or nysc DG?

We don't need a magician to know that certificate is 'Oluwole-inspired'.Its just unfortunate that the DSS,NA,and the '13 SANs man' had to put us through this global disgrace.

Exemptions are not done in schools, you will have to go to Nysc headquarter in abj with your credentials and a form will be giving to you to state your reasons for exemption. This is Nigeria, they do it easily with some amount of money. That stupid man should go and sit down

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Re: You Don’t Apply For Exemption Certificate, Says Ex-nysc Director by fergie001: 6:50am On Jul 12, 2018
almajiri101:


Exemptions are not done in schools, you will have to go to Nysc headquarter in abj with your credentials and a form will be giving to you to state your reasons for exemption. This is Nigeria, they do it easily with some amount of money. That stupid should man should go and sit down
And will your reasons fall within the purview of the sections he quoted?,and if it does,can you decipher what could possibly be adeosun's reasons....I know you weren't there,neither was I,but can we just imagine?

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