want to know if islam really supports paedophilia and if prophet muhammed really practiced it as it is being alleged.
source: http://pointblanknews.com/News/os3527.html

After reading the piece on that link, i feel sorry for the little kids who were smiling not knowing the reason for that gathering.
Scary as it looks, those placard carrying muslims have gone too far. If i have my way, they should be flogged until the word Islam turns to Island in the ear.

Which is a bride between the two? the child or the woman?

No taqqiya (means lies permitted to deceive people about Islam) please, lets leave religion and behave like people with honour.

Nonsense. Even a child knows that those people up there aren't muslims. What would unbelievers not do to slander Islam? But the joy of it is that truth will always stand no matter what.

Little wonder, Islam keeps growing despite all the lies and slandering. I just pray for those writing these rubbish that they repent before death overtakes them.

@OP
While you are free to ask questions about Islam and Muslims, don't fabricate lies or concoct stories. The pictures up there do not in any way look Muslim/Islam.

Deen4me:



The supposed Child bride wedding, was a mass wedding conducted by Hamas in the Gaza strip

Its tradition for the relatives of the two families to join the procession.

You guys need to stop spreading lies and not take anything u see on the internet Hook line ans sinker

Check the link below for more information

Source http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=106002

Sometime I wonder why people don't feel ashame of making post that can easily be faulted by even a nursary pupil. Certainly they can read, but why people will refuse to do their research well and prefer to show their ignorance in public like this is very pathetic to say the least. I think their should be an award for stupid posts/junks maybe that will deter some ignoramus from making unconfirmed/false/baseless accusations against anybody/faith

I know there is something called takiyya in Islam. Muslims are permitted to tell lie when they are in a tight corner. If those men were the grooms, why were they not holding their brides? but rather choose to hold children(brides?)! Ah! Islam, all liars will go to hell.

dexmond,

surely,you are among the people that have been going there,unless if you repeant Allah will forgive your sin.

dexmond:

all liars will go to hell.

I laugh in Hausa. Nobody in his sane mind will ever say those picture are pictures of Muslims. Let us presume they are; they are far from good Muslims for their practice, or at least the one paraded here is not Islamic in whatsoever way.

okay!
But guys abeg answer the OPs questions now?abi?

reindeer:

okay!
But guys abeg answer the OPs questions now?abi?

would you answer a question that is purported with lies? let me answer for you. no you won't.
the OP should present his question in a more sensible way, then he'll get the answer and attention he wants.

Ok na ma own question now. Did the prophet do it

Akwasi:

Ok na ma own question now. Did the prophet do it

Just a word of advise: "HE THAT LIVES IN VERY THING GLASS HOUSE SHOULD NOT THROW STONE (SOME QUESTIONS ARE BETTER LEFT UNASKED FOR YOUR OWN SAKE)  

Still no answer
Even to the most recent question?
na wah o!

it should be yes or no now?abi?

Wtf? Are these hopeless retards talking about? Everyone knows that islam supports paedophillia so why is it now being denied? Wtf? Wasn't mohammed himself a paedo? He got married to a girl of 6 and cosumated the marriage when she was 9. That's the height of insanity. If the grooms there are not getting married to the little girls then why are they walking down the aile with them? this is pointless. These people have been brain washed for centuries. Bloody paedoes

Wtf? Are these hopeless retards talking about? Everyone knows that islam supports paedophillia so why is it now being denied? Wtf? Wasn't mohammed himself a paedo? He got married to a girl of 6 and cosumated the marriage when she was 9. That's the height of insanity. If the grooms there are not getting married to the little girls then why are they walking down the aile with them? this is pointless. These people have been brain washed for centuries. Bloody paedoes

Seriously, does Islam support peadophilia?
I happen to serve in Northern Nigeria and I was told that in Islam, a girl is not allowed to see a scond menstrual cycle in the father's house. Meaning she is to be married off after the first menstrual cycle. Is this true?

zayhal: Nonsense. Even a child knows that those people up there aren't muslims. What would unbelievers not do to slander Islam? But the joy of it is that truth will always stand no matter what.

Little wonder, Islam keeps growing despite all the lies and slandering. I just pray for those writing these rubbish that they repent before death overtakes them.

How is islam growing? Biological evangelization. Marrying so many wives and producing so many children not properly cattered for, causing problems in the society.

How can you prove those children were not muslims? Which other religion permits such disgusting children marriage? Like prophet like followers.

Reading the placards carried by the demonstrators on the London Street, one will be forced to conclude that islam is a religion of peace indeed. Islam is about doing immoral things and forcing everybody to accept it.

Akwasi: Ok na ma own question now. Did the prophet do it

May I ask certain questions about your priests?

dexmond: I know there is something called takiyya in Islam. Muslims are permitted to tell lie when they are in a tight corner. If those men were the grooms, why were they not holding their brides? but rather choose to hold children(brides?)! Ah! Islam, all liars will go to hell.

Every religion, country etc practise taqqiya
No CIA agent enters the Russian Federation and tell them he is a spy. That is normal
A muslim can lie when his life in danger.
But the topic of this forum does not qualify for taqqiya

As regards hellfire, you will be shocked at the large number of Christians who will be dwelling there

truthman2012:

How is islam growing? Biological evangelization. Marrying so many wives and producing so many children not properly cattered for, causing problems in the society.

How can you prove those children were not muslims? Which other religion permits such disgusting children marriage? Like prophet like followers.

Reading the placards carried by the demonstrators on the London Street, one will be forced to conclude that islam is a religion of peace indeed. Islam is about doing immoral things and forcing everybody to accept it.

And you think that there are no destitutes in Christian countries?
When will you be given permission by your priests to tell the truth!

Betathings we are not comparing Christianity and Islam. Answer the questions asked... Muslims usually do that. When you are showed the gaping hole in your 'perfect religion,' you start comparing yourselves with Christians.
But my opinion is that no rational (sensible) person can follow the ideologies in Islam.
Marrying a girl at six and raping her at nine. Even if it was accepted as a norm then, as a 'prophet and messenger of God,' you are supposed to know it is wrong. You guys have been indoctrinated and cannot leave Islam because of the fear of death.

cmega123: Betathings we are not comparing Christianity and Islam. Answer the questions asked... Muslims usually do that. When you are showed the gaping hole in your 'perfect religion,' you start comparing yourselves with Christians.
But my opinion is that no rational (sensible) person can follow the ideologies in Islam.
Marrying a girl at six and raping her at nine. Even if it was accepted as a norm then, as a 'prophet and messenger of God,' you are supposed to know it is wrong. You guys have been indoctrinated and cannot leave Islam because of the fear of death.

Actually, we are comparing both Islam and Christianity. Let us be sincere about this
When a Glo staff is passing negative comments about MTN, he is indirectly comparing both companies

It is interesting that you see "gaping hole" in Islam and you cannot see the yawning chasm in Christianity
Since you mention rational and sensible approach to issues, please ponder over these

Christian doctrines are mostly impracticable - you speak glowingly of turning the other cheek
Has any Christian country ever been able to ignore an attack on its territory?
Infact Christians have spread their message using violence. We saw this in North and South America, Asia, Africa and recently by proxy in Iraq
Islam does not pretend. If you attack, we will fight back within limits

Marriage and rape are incompatible. Did the father give her hand in marriage? Did witnesses attest to the marriage?
How come that society and the enemies of the husband never raised an issue over this matter until this century
A 90-yr old Joseph was married to a 12-yr old Mary. Do you not ALSO see anything wrong in it?
Or is your sense of right and wrong dictated by who is committing the act?

Actually everyone (capitalists, socialists, muslims, christians, white supremacists etc) has been indoctrinated

But can you make up your mind please
Are Muslims fearful of death and so cannot convert? Or a lot of muslims have actually "seen the light" and converted
Or do muslims "have miserable lives" and are therefore committing suicide
Please settle for one so that sense and reason can prevail

betathings neva disappoints. men you no dey spare ignoramus o.

BetaThings:

Actually, we are comparing both Islam and Christianity. Let us be sincere about this
When a Glo staff is passing negative comments about MTN, he is indirectly comparing both companies

It is interesting that you see "gaping hole" in Islam and you cannot see the yawning chasm in Christianity
Since you mention rational and sensible approach to issues, please ponder over these

Christian doctrines are mostly impracticable - you speak glowingly of turning the other cheek
Has any Christian country ever been able to ignore an attack on its territory?
Infact Christians have spread their message using violence. We saw this in North and South America, Asia, Africa and recently by proxy in Iraq
Islam does not pretend. If you attack, we will fight back within limits

Marriage and rape are incompatible. Did the father give her hand in marriage? Did witnesses attest to the marriage?
How come that society and the enemies of the husband never raised an issue over this matter until this century
A 90-yr old Joseph was married to a 12-yr old Mary. Do you not ALSO see anything wrong in it?
Or is your sense of right and wrong dictated by who is committing the act?

Actually everyone (capitalists, socialists, muslims, christians, white supremacists etc) has been indoctrinated

But can you make up your mind please
Are Muslims fearful of death and so cannot convert? Or a lot of muslims have actually "seen the light" and converted
Or do muslims "have miserable lives" and are therefore committing suicide
Please settle for one so that sense and reason can prevail

SMH

This topic is false and misleading and should be locked!

Islamophobes purposefully mistook these girls as child brides


The Loon world was whipped into a frenzy based on, as usual, the reinforcing winds of ignorance and hate. In what was meant to be an unremarkable story, Tim Marshall a reporter for Sky News blogged on a mass wedding celebration in the Gaza Strip officiated by Hamas. Marshall reports in his excellent blog http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:dcc9d723-8046-4857-b618-5c1135ba6417

The party is for 450 grooms, the brides are elsewhere, some among the 5,000 or so guests. It’s the way things are done here, Personally I’m for the mixing of the sexes, but I’m not about to argue, I’m outnumbered.

Up on the stage there’s music and dancing. Everyone’s having a good time, even me, although the Hamas robocops are making me a little nervous. Sure Hamas have cold blooded killers among them, sure they support the murder of children in Israel, sure they are cracking down on women’s rights, but many of their supporters are just ordinary people. And they need a break…Then the fireworks explode, the cheering begins, and in march the Hamas scouts, bashing drums, looking every inch the future Hamas fighters many will be. Then the grooms, aged about 18 to about 28. They are holding hands with their young nieces and cousins, little girls aged from about 3 to 8, made up to the nines, wearing white wedding dresses.

So what has gotten the Loon world completely riled up? Well it seems that many of the anti-Muslims misconstrued the occasion and thought the grooms were actually marrying the little girls who were their nieces or cousins! Tim Marshall explains,

Our report on this put it into context saying that it took place just a mile from the Israeli border and was a message from Hamas about its strength confidence and future fighters. Oh and that the brides were elsewhere. Pretty straightforward.

It never struck me for a moment that the little girls might later be described in the bloggersphere as the brides! How naive I am.

Dozens, and I mean dozens, of websites took the video of the event and wrote lurid stories about Hamas mass paedophilia with headlines about ’450 child brides’, and endless copy about how disgusting this was, how it showed how depraved Islam is, et al, ad infinitum. Site after site jumped on the story, linking from one totally wrong load of rubbish to the next. I’ll give credit to http://tundratabloid..com/ who at least took down the video, but most sites just ploughed on regardless.

So which sites are these, and what have the various reactions been? http://barthsnotes./2009/08/06/gaza-wedding-report-provokes-paedo-hysteria/ gives us a hint,

The many websites that picked this up have responded in various ways: some issuing corrections, some quickly deleting their postings, and some insisting that it’s all true and that Marshall is trying to cover up the fact: “Why”, demands one site http://sheikyermami.com/2009/08/06/why-would-tim-marshall-defend-the-gaza-pedophiles/ “would Tim Marshall defend the Gaza pedophiles?” One of the sites that decided to scrub was Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch, which is worth noting as Spencer claims some sort of academic expertise on Islam.

Where does this collective hallucination and fixation on fiction originate from? The simple, straight forward answer is that it comes from the collective hysterical hatred shared by those who despise Islam and Muslims. It is a manifestation of Islamophobia, “ie. an irrational fear of Islam.” It springs from the idea that Islam is evil, inherently backwards, oppressive to women. The talking point goes, “Muhammad was a pedophile who married 9 year old A’isha and these vile Mooslims must be doing it now on this massive scale!” George Readings puts this into some context in a recent post on The Spitoons (via Bartholemew),

The “argument” goes that Muslims believe Muhammad to be a perfect model for behaviour and therefore the fact of Muhammad’s marriage to A’isha somehow proves Islam to be a depraved religion…This attempt to aggressively apply a modern British definition of paedophilia to seventh century Arabia strikes me as a sign of severe anthropological illiteracy…

…Marriage to a pre-pubescant child with whom consummation occurs upon reaching puberty is not a model most people would be happy with in the modern world (although Bolivia sets the age of consent at puberty).

Which is probably why nearly all Muslim countries have reformed these rules beyond recognition. The age of consent in Algeria and Malaysia is 16, in Indonesia it is 19 for males and 16 for females. In Egypt it’s 18 for both and Tunisia 20. Reform has not, however, come to Saudi Arabia. Back in April the world followed the case of a mother trying to obtain a divorce for her eight-year-old daughter who had been married off by her father to a friend he owed a debt. In the end she succeeded and now there is even talk of Saudi Arabia preventing marriage before the age of 18.

Poor Tim Marshall scoured the net in an attempt to let the Islamophobes know that they had gotten it wrong but what was the result?

I spent a few hours visiting websites and leaving comments where I could. To little avail. Instead I received a steady stream of vitriol. The best response was on a site run by a Debbie Schlussel . The guy who posted it said he wasn’t interested in the detail. The detail being the fact that the girls weren’t the brides.

It showed how much some people want to believe nonsense like this, as it re-inforces their prejudices, always a comfortably fun thing to do. But Hamas, and the jihadists do enough terrible things without having to make things up about them. Most of the stuff I read was outright, unthinking, gleeful, Islamophobia from people who clearly knew nothing about Arab popular culture. It’s as is they really beleive that because there are examples of child brides, it means all weddings are with child brides.

Debbie Schlussel is not new to LoonWatch readers, her doozy looniness is par for the course, so Tim shouldn’t worry, but he hit the nail on the head when he wrote, “It showed how much some people want to believe nonsense like this, as it re-inforces their prejudices, always a comfortably fun thing to do.” This is exactly the case — loaded with a bagful of prejudice and preconceived notions the Islamophobes took the wedding to be an affirmation of their pre-set conjectures.

When they were presented with the fact that they had stupendously erred some corrected themselves while others went into denial. It almost reminds you of some Biblical literalists who believe the world is 6,000 years old, you can present them with all the overwhelming evidence that point to the fact that the world is many millions of times older but they will stubbornly hold on to their literal interepretation of the Bible. This is not much different, and serves as a sweeping manifestation of the kind of irrationality that ignorance coupled with hate can produce.

and even here on NL we have seen this story being posted!

https://www.nairaland.com/1177010/hoaxes-fabrications-islam-muslims#14373970

Once again if Islam is such a evil religion, you really would not resort to telling lies to prove it as such!

Alhamdulillah wa solatu wa sallam ala l ashrof li mumineen, it's quite unfortunate that some of us are learned but still lack indepth knowledge. There's differentiation between paedophilia and child marriage. Islam allows for child marriage base on the Shar'iah law. The law stipulates that you can marry a child as young as the age of 6, but there's a clause which is that there would be no consummation(intimacy) until she comes of age. As soon as she comes of age, she has the right to call off the marriage if she's not interested. This act is not a compulsion but a choice. I might want to give my child out in marriage at any early age while you won't do the same. As much as I don't want to say much, I'l like to call your attention to recent defiling of young girls by a pastor two months and two other cases by christians as well. What age was Mary betrothed to Joseph? Let' not argue over this. It's a freedom of choice!

dexmond: I know there is something called takiyya in Islam. Muslims are permitted to tell lie when they are in a tight corner.

Can you tell us the details of taqiyya since you claim to know
What do you mean by being in a tight corner
Read this. Did the Isrealis not lies here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

EVERYBODY will have cause to lie depending on the circumstance.
Muslims are allowed to lie when they are faced with life-threatening danger
Just like Christians or atheists
CNN talks of CIA agent and Russian spy. They talk about American defence spending and Chinese acquiring arms
Everyone speaks of Ministry of Defence. So who attacks to start wars?

dexmond:
If those men were the grooms, why were they not holding their brides? but rather choose to hold children(brides?)! Ah!

We have told you the truth, but I dare you to produce incontrovertible evidence that we are lying

dexmond:
Islam, all liars will go to hell.

In Christianity, liars go to heaven in service of the religion