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Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 4:14am On Jul 22, 2010
KoboJunkie, God bless you!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 4:18am On Jul 22, 2010
U.N. 'peacekeepers' rape women, children


With the United Nations already under fire for the Oil-for-Food mega-scandal and other corruption, sensational allegations of rampant sexual exploitation and ra-pe of young girls and women by the U.N.'s so-called "peacekeepers" and civilian staffers in the Congo is dragging the global body's reputation to an all-time low.

In a new report referring to the widespread sex scandal as "the U.N.'s Abu Ghraib," the London Times provides some specific examples, including:


* A French U.N. logistics expert in the Congo shot pornographic videos in his home, in which he had converted his bedroom into a photo studio for videotaping his sexual abuse of young girls. When police raided his home, the man was allegedly about to rape a 12-year-old girl sent to him in a law enforcement sting operation. As the Times reported, a senior Congolese police officer confirmed the bed was surrounded by large mirrors on three sides, with a remote control camera on the fourth side.

* U.N. officials are worried that the scandal, which already has netted 150 allegations of sex crimes by U.N. staffers, will explode if the pornographic videos and photos, now on sale in Congo, becoming public
"It would be a pretty big problem for the U.N. if these pictures come out," one senior official told the Times.


* Two Russian pilots paid young girls with jars of mayonnaise and jam to have sex with them, the report adds.

* U.N. "peacekeepers" from Morocco based in Kisangani – a secluded town on the Congo River – are notorious for impregnating local women and girls. In March, an international group probing the scandal found 82 women and girls had been made pregnant by Moroccan U.N. staffers and 59 others by Uruguayan staffers. One U.N. soldier accused of rape was apparently hidden in the barracks for a year.
* Congo's Minister of Defense Maj.-Gen. Jean Pierre Ondekane told a top U.N. official that all U.N. "peacekeepers" in Kisangani would be remember for would be "for running after little girls," the Times reported.


And at least two U.N. officials – a Ukrainian and a Canadian – have been forced to leave the African nation after getting local women pregnant.


Most of the sexual abuse and exploitation, says the report, involves trading sex for money, food or jobs. However, some victims say they were raped, but later given food or money to make the incident appear to have been consensual – "rape disguised as prostitution."

U.N. Under-Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Jean-Marie Guehenno told the London paper: "The fact that these things happened is a blot on us. It's awful. What is important is to get to the bottom of it and fight it and make sure that people who do that pay for what they have done."

Despite the fact that the U.N.'s sexual code of conduct is prominently displayed on U.N. facilities Congo – forbidding sex with prostitutes or women under 18 – the U.N. continues to hand out free condoms to "peacekeepers" to protect them from AIDS.

The U.N. has promised to investigate and prosecute the widespread allegations. But, as WND reported last month, the global organization is not known for its forthrightness and candor in such internal investigations. The agency has been criticized for ignoring evidence or wrongdoing in the past – including accusations of rape and murder by "peacekeepers."
In fact, previous revelations of peacekeeping abuses have only been revealed by news organizations. Such was the case in Cambodia in the early 1990s and later in Somalia, Bosnia and Ethiopia.


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Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by TewMuch: 4:22am On Jul 22, 2010
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Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 4:30am On Jul 22, 2010
Soooooooooooooooooooooo?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? 
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 4:53am On Jul 22, 2010
They were living in the community. Of course they may have girlfriends. Why does everything have to lead to r-ape? Couldn't they just got the local women pregnant, and then left? Nigerian men are known for that.

Or the Nigerian soldiers had food and money, the women probably slept with them in order to feed themselves.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 4:59am On Jul 22, 2010
TewMuch:

You are really a lunatic. please leave my posts alone. I no get your time. With your unintelligible vague statements. You are irrelevant. What is the topic about? haha. Brain freeze or memory loss? I did say i was going to check the US angle, and i did say i was not sure about that right? Loonie,

I'm a lunatic now? I'll be insulting people with down syndrome to group you with them. Hang your brain Moronica let it dry in the sun cause it's too polluted to be fresh. While you at it, tell google you are sorry you misused the search button. When are you gonna learn not to insult people who don't agree with you? Are you getting your internet service from Walmart? It seem to cheap to give you quality search results.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by proudly9ja(m): 5:03am On Jul 22, 2010
Sorry, can someone please correct me if Im wrong but from the OP, the women are not complaining about being raped or not. All they want is fathers for their children. If I may conclude from this, I don't think this is a case of rape (not that Im saying soldiers don't rape during war but in this case, its not the situation). This is a case of consenting adults, only that the Nigerian soldiers have refused to own up to their responsibilities.

What we should be discussing is how to fish out the fathers to take responsibility for their child(ren).
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 5:04am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

They were living in the community. Of course they may have girlfriends. Why does everything have to lead to r-ape? Couldn't they just got the local women pregnant, and then left? Nigerian men are known for that.

Or the Nigerian soldiers had food and money, the women probably slept with them in order to feed themselves.

You do realize that is FROWNED upon, especially in war times?
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:06am On Jul 22, 2010
Kobojunkie:

You do realize that is FROWNED upon, especially in war times?

Men have needs as well. These women could of denied these Nigerian men access. Just saying. . . undecided

It is not like they had a gun pointed to their head so that they would spread their legs. I don't blame the Nigerian soldiers. War can be stressful on men, and we have needs.

Wherever soldiers are located in the world, they will sleep with the local women. Americans did it in Vietnam and during WWII in Germany, UK and France.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 5:08am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

Men have needs as well. These women could of denied these Nigerian men access. Just saying. . . undecided

It is not like they had a gun pointed to their head so that they would spread their legs. I don't blame the Nigerian soldiers. War can be stressful on men, and we have needs.

Wherever soldiers are located in the world, they will sleep with the local women. Americans did it in Vietnam and during WWII in Germany, UK and France.
WOW, so you were there to see what went down then?

So, American's ra-ped women in Vietnam etc means it is Ok to ra-pe women everywhere then?


Are these the youths that we expect to change the future of our country eee??
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:10am On Jul 22, 2010
Kobojunkie:

WOW, so you were there to see what went down then?

So, American's ra-ped women in Vietnam etc means it is Ok to ra-pe women everywhere then?


Are these the youths that we expect to change the future of our country eee??

Where did I say that they r-aped them.

I said visited local women. They could have sold their bodies. Men have needs! I doubt that the men forced them to do anything since they were there to help them.

Is it so hard for you to understand that they could have been their girlfriends that they left? Or they were ashawo who sold their bodies to the men?

NO WHERE IN THIS ARTICLE DID IT SAY THAT OUR SOLDIERS R-APED THE WOMEN!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:11am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

Men have needs as well. These women could of denied these Nigerian men access. Just saying. . . undecided

It is not like they had a gun pointed to their head so that they would spread their legs. I don't blame the Nigerian soldiers. War can be stressful on men, and we have needs.

Wherever soldiers are located in the world, they will sleep with the local women. Americans did it in Vietnam and during WWII in Germany, UK and France.

Ezechue and you still tribal logic is good for you?

EzeUche:

Where did I say that they r-aped them.

I said visited local women. They could have sold their bodies. Men have needs! I doubt that the men forced them to do anything since they were there to help them.

Is it so hard for you to understand that they could have been their girlfriends that they left? Or they were ashawo who sold their bodies to the men?

NO WHERE IN THIS ARTICLE DID IT SAY THAT OUR SOLDIERS R-APED THE WOMEN!

But it was reported though? Just that someone brought up the issue and some other person was trying to defend rape.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:13am On Jul 22, 2010
9jaganja:

Ezechue and you still tribal logic is good for you?

Good Lord, you people will bring tribe into a national issue. I am being nationalistic right now, not tribalistic. See as much as I try not to use the word tribe or anything associated with tribe, you people will continue to bring me back to it.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:13am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

Men have needs as well. These women could of denied these Nigerian men access. Just saying. . . undecided

It is not like they had a gun pointed to their head so that they would spread their legs. I don't blame the Nigerian soldiers. War can be stressful on men, and we have needs.

Wherever soldiers are located in the world, they will sleep with the local women. Americans did it in Vietnam and during WWII in Germany, UK and France.
WOW!!!!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:15am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

Good Lord, you people will bring tribe into a national issue. I am being nationalistic right now, not tribalistic. See as much as I try not to use the word tribe or anything associated with tribe, you people will continue to bring me back to it.

That post was to mock your previous post. And I have every reason to believe it was due to the way u used to think. You are cool!!! Just chill,
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:17am On Jul 22, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

WOW!!!!


I see you like to pick and choose different parts of my responses as well. Get the full response.

NO WHERE IN THIS ARTICLE DID IT SAY THE WOMEN WERE R-APED!

They probably gave it freely, to the Nigerian soldiers who were protecting them. Nothing turns on a woman more than someone who can protect them.

Can't soldiers have sexual relations in foreign countries without being accused of r-ape?
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:21am On Jul 22, 2010
Just because ra-pe wasnt reported, doesnt mean it didnt happen.

It's a complex issue, its not as easy to report as you think.

Esp during a war time.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by OgidiBoy(m): 5:23am On Jul 22, 2010
If non of these women was r a p e d by these soldiers then I don't see what the problem is. Nigerian soldiers r a p e d thousands of Igbo women

when they invaded Biafra, that's why today you see alot of very dark skined Igbos and you wonder were the got their blackness from. lipsrsealed
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:23am On Jul 22, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Just because ra-pe wasnt reported, doesnt mean it didnt happen.

It's a complex issue, its not as easy to report as you think.

Esp during a war time.

Give our soldiers some credit. Liberians were thankful for Nigerian soldiers, and I heard that our fighting force was very professional in Liberia. Unlike in the conflicts within Nigeria, they behaved themselves.

Just the Nigeria swagga was too much for the Liberian women. I seen it a lot at the parties in the U.S. Dem Liberian are something else.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:24am On Jul 22, 2010
OgidiBoy:

If non of these women was r a p e d by these soldiers then I don't see what the problem is. Nigerian soldiers r a p e d thousands of Igbo women

when they invaded Biafra, t[b]hat's why today you see alot of very dark skined Igbos today and you wonder were the got their blackness from[/b]. lipsrsealed

What a joke grin grin grin grin


EzeUche:

Give our soldiers some credit. Liberians were thankful for Nigerian soldiers, and I heard that our fighting force was very professional in Liberia. Unlike in the conflicts within Nigeria, they behaved themselves.

Just the Nigeria swagga was too much for the Liberian women. I seen it a lot at the parties in the U.S. Dem Liberian are something else.

LOL Wow!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:25am On Jul 22, 2010
OgidiBoy:

If non of these women was r a p e d by these soldiers then I don't see what the problem is. Nigerian soldiers r a p e d thousands of Igbo women

when they invaded Biafra, that's why today you see alot of very dark skined Igbos  and you wonder were the got their blackness from. lipsrsealed

We don't need none of that my friend. Yes, Nigerian soldiers did r-ape a lot of Igbo women, we can't deny that ugly truth, but many Igbos were just as black even before they came to our land.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:27am On Jul 22, 2010
Ileke-IdI:



LOL Wow!



How dare you tempt me with that picture of yours? Shame on you! angry

This is what the Nigerian soldiers were faced with. Voluptuous Liberian women. Men have needs and you are making my needs go crazy!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 5:27am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

Where did I say that they r-aped them.

I said visited local women. They could have sold their bodies. Men have needs! I doubt that the men forced them to do anything since they were there to help them.

Is it so hard for you to understand that they could have been their girlfriends that they left? Or they were ashawo who sold their bodies to the men?

NO WHERE IN THIS ARTICLE DID IT SAY THAT OUR SOLDIERS R-APED THE WOMEN!
Sigh!!  I don't even know where to start.

Maybe I should not even bother . . . goodluck!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:29am On Jul 22, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Sigh!!  I don't even know where to start.

Maybe I should not even bother . . . goodluck!

You are just one of the most insidious person I have ever come across Nairaland. I really meant it. I think you argue for the sake of arguing. And to make matter worse, I can't even write in Igbo without you knowing!
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:31am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

You are just one of the most insidious person I have ever come across Nairaland. I really meant it. I think you argue for the sake of arguing. And to make matter worse, I can't even write in Igbo without you knowing!
No she's not. I love her way of thinking embarassed
KoboJ understands Igbo? cooooooooooooooool


EzeUche:

How dare you tempt me with that picture of yours? Shame on you! angry

This is what the Nigerian soldiers were faced with. Voluptuous Liberian women. Men have needs and you are making my needs go crazy!
Picture of Yoruba native wear is making you go crazy? Sure you're not Yoruba?
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:35am On Jul 22, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

No she's not. I love her way of thinking  embarassed
KoboJ understands Igbo? cooooooooooooooool

Picture of Yoruba native wear is making you go crazy?  Sure you're not Yoruba?



You changed your pic quick.  grin

I see how it is. And unfortunately she understands Igbo. . . I found that ugly truth after I was putting that Ngwa boy in his place.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 5:36am On Jul 22, 2010
In all when it comes to women issues in Africa, we get a failing grade to this very date. Women and children are still threated as sub-beings. Imagine someone saying things like "our men have needs", not even considering the fact that these "needs" lead to producing of helpless humans who these men ought to be made to care for. Can the same get away with getting those "needs" met in places like america or western world without also being forced in some way to deal with the consequence of that release?

Seriously, these "youths of today" make me cringe sometimes. I can't believe a person can say it is Ok for a soldier to offer a hungry woman food in exchange for sex . . . isn't that what we term abuse?
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:39am On Jul 22, 2010
Kobojunkie:

In all when it comes to women issues in Africa, we get a failing grade to this very date. Women and children are still threated as sub-beings. Imagine someone saying things like "our men have needs", not even considering the fact that these "needs" lead to producing of helpless humans who these men ought to be made to care for. Can the same get away with getting those "needs" met in places like america or western world without also being forced in some way to deal with the consequence of that release?

Seriously, these "youths of today" make me cringe sometimes. I can't believe a person can say it is Ok for a soldier to offer a hungry woman food in exchange for sex . . . isn't that what we term abuse?

Abi o.

EzeUche continues to disappoint me when it comes to women issues. I dont trust that dude. "War can be stressful on men, and we have needs", imagine.


EzeUche:

You changed your pic quick.  grin

I see how it is. And unfortunately she understands Igbo. . . I found that ugly truth after I was putting that Ngwa boy in his place.
That's a good thing.

KoboJ, teach me Igbo embarassed
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:39am On Jul 22, 2010
Kobojunkie:

In all when it comes to women issues in Africa, we get a failing grade to this very date. Women and children are still threated as sub-beings. Imagine someone saying things like "our men have needs", not even considering the fact that these "needs" lead to producing of helpless humans who these men ought to be made to care for. Can the same get away with getting those "needs" met in places like america or western world without also being forced in some way to deal with the consequence of that release?

Seriously, these "youths of today" make me cringe sometimes. I can't believe a person can say it is Ok for a soldier to offer a hungry woman food in exchange for sex . . .  isn't that what we term abuse?

Don't we all have needs. These women could have kept their legs closed. Why should we blame the men? These women should have known that these soldiers would only be here temporarily. They were just having fun and getting their needs fulfilled. And I am pretty sure the women had no problem when they were doing the act.

I am getting tired of women demonizing men. It takes two to create a child. It is not the man's fault, it is the woman for allowing him to get his pleasure.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Kobojunkie: 5:41am On Jul 22, 2010
EzeUche:

Don't we all have needs. These women could have kept their legs closed. Why should we blame the men? These women should have known that these soldiers would only be here temporarily. They were just having fun and getting their needs fulfilled. And I am pretty sure the women had no problem when they were doing the act.

I am getting tired of women demonizing men. It takes two to create a child. It is not the man's fault, it is the woman for allowing him to get his pleasure.

How old are you? For pete's sake how frelling old are you to even utter the words you do on this issue? Who raised you?
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by EzeUche(m): 5:41am On Jul 22, 2010
Ileke-Idi and Kobojunkie,

You all have been tainted by the West. Feminism is not good for African women. Cleanse yourselves of that filth and be happy for our Nigerian soldiers. They are creating more Nigerians!

Now we have people in Liberia with Nigerian roots.
Re: Nigerian Soldiers Fathered 250,000 Kids In Liberia by Nobody: 5:42am On Jul 22, 2010
Oga ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

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