good1025:

But why will he complain? Why Why Why?
Bayern use to be biggest Club and Most Successful in the world but what is happening recently is casting doubt now sha. Muller know he cannot excel anywhere apart from league like Germany, Dutch or French League. Do you think he can excel in Portuguese League? I doubt that.

When Mario Gomez was criticize for been lazy when he first come to Bayern did he talk? He Just answer his doubters (where is my friend Toba? I love him sometimes) with Performances on the pitch. Now who is minding Gomez business?

So about Muller case, If you notice he is not prominent in Jupp team like how he was in Van Gaal time. He already enjoy major playing time under Van Gaal so he can't complain now. Jupp Approach is different so he have to accept it.

Ok, so if he Complain, what can happen. Will Chelsea buy him? Will City buy him? Will Ferguson or Even Wenger buy him? May be by loan he can come to club like Tottenham . Only Liverpool who buy Carol for 30 million can risk to buy player like Muller into England.

So what is the real problem of Bayern? Is it Robben, Muller or Ribery? or Is it Swiney? It is not all this things. It is lack of competition. Bayern is sleeping because Germany league is dead. Germany league die and need resuscitation like how Chelsea and Man City have recently. The Germany teams have to learn world trend and import Arab billionaires to make mark in that league.

Now to examine what the problem is let us look at that picture. The picture of Swine, Jupp and that Man that look like Robben. Look at the picture well, what do you notice?
Yes. Body language. The body Language show that the players are by passing Manager straight to meet and gist with Club management. Why will that be? That is how they do to Van Gaal and drive him away. Imagine Messi by passing Guardiola, will that work?
Ok may be it work in Chelsea but is every team great like Chelsea?
Chelsea at last season have not had a coach for long . Drogba know this, Lampard know this and even Terry. They take express decision to lead the team whether Mourinho or Siasa was the coach.

So that is the difference

Arjen Robben has lauded his colleagues in Netherlands national team after its narrow win over England.

The 28-year-old bagged a decisive brace for the Oranje on Thursday night, including the winner, which condemned Stuart Pearce to defeat in his debut at the helm of the Three Lions.

Speaking to Dutch radio station NOS, Robben revealed his joy at being able to train with players of such high quality, and hailed the atmosphere in the Netherlands' camp.

"I do not always get passes like that," Robben said. "Even yesterday at practice I had so much fun, I really enjoyed being together with the guys. I really like training on such a level, and developing understanding with one another, we have so much footballing quality in this team.

"It was also pleasant to be two-three days away from Germany and to play well here."

Van der Wiel has come out and admitted that he was not impressed by Robben's contributions to the team.

"If you give Arjen the ball and he has two opponents in front of him, he'll still try and get past them," the Ajax defender stated to NUsport. "He's not the type of player to sacrifice himself for the wing-back and cut inside to create space for me, or tracks back to help me out when I'm dealing with two opponents.

"I was the one sacrificing myself for Arjen, and that's not something I'm used to. I prefer to do things together, both defending and attacking. It was a bit frustrating how things went."

http://www.goal.com/en/news/462/netherlands/2012/07/27/3268957/robben-not-the-type-of-player-to-make-sacrifices-says-van?source=breakingnews

dayokanu:

Thomas Muller's major issue is that he is always being tossed around. He is our deputy right winger when Robben is injured, Deputy Left winger when Ribery is injured, Deputy attacking midfielder when Kroos is injured. He gets tossed everywhere and he is humble enough not to complain.

I think this thing is not only with this generation even the Breitnigge generation Rummenigge and breitner lost 2 CL finals to Aston Villa and FC Porto in games they completely dominated, They lost world cup finals in 1982 and 1986 to Italy and Argentina

Contrary to popular believe Germany is one of the least clinical countries in the world

Bayern has lost 5 CL finals 4 of which they dominated completely (1982, 1987, 1999, 2012) even 2010 to a large extent

Germany has lost 3 World cup finals and 3 Euro finals(Cezch, Denmark and Spain 2008)


I am sure Robben would give himself brain and move away from penalties

I am not on twitter so I dont know if bayern has an ID, It would probably be in German though

A-40:


Well i think thats because he has not established himself in one position. Truth is his form has also kinda dropped which is why he is being tossed around. I think those losses where not as agonizing as these ones except for the Argentina one

Lol i thought i was the only one that observed that misconception. Germany has actually lost 4 World Cup Finals and three Euros. I think why Germany is so respected is because of what they do with limited resources, German players are not the most technically gifted in the World but they get the utmost from what they have regardless. Since 82 Germany has only failed to reach the Semis of a World Cup twice. Thats an astounding record anyway you look at it

You aren't on Twitter?? Omo de yan pia ni be ooh!

dayokanu:

The 2 Euro cup losses to Czech and Denmark were bad too because they were to minnows. The 1976 loss broke the german dominance of the 70's And the 1992, I fully expected Germany to win.

You sure about the twitter parole?

tkb don yarn am before but I no believe

duduspace: Yeye team of chokers. Just lost on Penalties to Werder Bremen. DK sef don become Homo erectus.

dayokanu: Schweinsteiger, Gomez, Alaba, Contento, Rafinha out injured in pre season already

A-40:

No problem nau
Gomez - Mandzukic,Pizarro
Schweini - Kroos, Muller
Rafinha - Boateng (Dante moves central)
Alaba,Contento - Lahm
Abi ki lo ku??

Do you see us still buyin tho?

dayokanu:

I have a feeling we would still make a late move for Martinez or another Central midfielder.

A-40:

That would prolly put Gustavo's position in jeopardy! Still think we overpaid for him. He did do a decent job on Ozil in the UCL semis that's his high point but he was lucky cos a stricter ref may have sent him off

dayokanu:

In this current market can you define what overpaid is? We bought Gustavo for 17m. Martinez asking price is 40m

Can we say Martinez is 3 times better than Gustavo? Gustavo shut down Madrid effectively. I was watching the game with friends and no one can really say Gustavo was rough on Ozil

Everyfucking time he was always getting the ball first.

He was key to our game at the Bernabeu.

I dont think Martinez would put Gustavo in jeopardy cos 1. Schweinsteiger has been in and out of injury for the past one yr and not a guarantee. Secondly Tymoschuk and Gustavo are too limited attackingwise. Kroos is too lightweight to be the second midfielder.

This Schweinsteiger injuries might push us towards Martinez more and possibly push Tymoschuk out of Allianz.

Also there is our youth player 17yr Emre Can. He was a star in the last FIFA U-17. He can also get some minutes here and there

dayokanu: DM is one of the easiest roles to play on the field as long as you are Athletic. Thats why many Africans thrive in a lot
Who are the top 5 DM in Europe BTW

dayokanu: Mikel, Song I dont regard that high.

Martinez I havent seen long enough, De Rossis form has dropped in the last 4yrs.

Alaba was falling down and he had to break his fall before the dolt Kassai awarded a penner and yellow

dayokanu:

A-40:
Come on man let's keep it a 100! Gustavo is not as good as any of those guys I listed. I am not saying he can't wind up being better but presently they are not in the same league.

Lol come on u don't fall like that in the box 18! Key thing is his hands where away from his body

Enuff of this old stuff! How we dey negotiate Sunday? We have to beat Borrussia! O to ge! What lineup would u go with

A-40:

That whole Spanish team stank

Hahaha is it that bad? The game is at the Allianz Arena which we have lost to em twice in a row never mind May 19. Something has to change tho and it starts Sunday. Who do you have playing LB with both Alaba and Contento out? I still suggest they pair Badstuber with Dante and move Lahm there

Not only are Liverpool also interested in a loan deal for Real Madrid midfielder Sahin, but Arsenal are unlikely to pursue him unless they end up selling Alex Song .

Barcelona and Bayern Munich are both interested in the Gunners' midfielder, but Song is under contract until 2015 and Arsenal are in no rush to sell.http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-nuri-sahin-yann-1232344

dayokanu:

http://www.fussballtransfers.com/bundesliga/fc-bayern-arsenal-star-als-alternative-fur-martinez_29863


How true is the rumour that Song is leaving cos[b] bigger teams like Bayern [/b]and Barca are looking at getting him. Even though i think this is a dumb transfer.

Song is one of the least disciplined DM in the trade. I would take Martinez for 30m than take Song for 15. Even I would take Mikel over Song