Sunglow:

Jesus is God,4 he said i and my father are one.He who have seen me have seen d father.wen u get 2 heaven who do u think u wil see sitting on d throne?Jesus off course!

Enigma:


I have to say, Olaadegbu made some really powerful posts in this thread (ignoring the cartoons). 

EDIT similarly by Image123 especially on page 2; and I already stated my admiration for one of aletheia's posts.

OLAADEGBU:


"Jesus said to them, Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I am" -- John 8:58 The Evidence Bible.

Was Jesus God in human form?

If I give you a small slice of cheese from a large block (the taste being constant throughout the whole block), and you spit out the cheese saying you hate the taste, then you reject the whole block.  Jesus was God manifest in human form.  If the Jews and other religious folks rejected Him, they rejected the Father also -- he who is of God hears God's words.  John later stated in his epistle,

"Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father, (but) he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also" (1 John 2:23).

OLAADEGBU:


The Indwelling Trinity

"That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God" (Ephesians 3:16-19)

This prayer of the apostle Paul applies to us as well as "to the saints which are at Ephesus" (Ephesians 1:1). Paul directs his prayer "unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (3:14), and he requests both that "Christ may dwell in your hearts" and also that the Holy Spirit would strengthen our "inner man." We know elsewhere that Christ is at the right hand of the Father in heaven (Ephesians 1:20), so that the Holy Spirit is the person who actually indwells our bodies as believers. And yet, because God is a tri-une God, if the Holy Spirit indwells us, so also must "the Spirit of Christ," or else "he is none of his" (Romans 8:9).

But the prayer doesn’t end with Christ dwelling in our hearts. He further prays that "ye might be filled with all the fulness of God," and thus the Father is there too! When we accept Christ, we accept also the Father and the Holy Spirit, for the three are one, and God in all His tri-une fullness thenceforth lives in our bodies.

The Lord Jesus Himself had prayed essentially the same prayer. "I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; . . . and my Father will love |you|, and we will . . . make our abode with |you|" (John 14:16-17, 23). What a priceless privilege and responsibility is ours as believers, that our triune God of creation and redemption and direction is with us always! HMM

For more . . . .

kolaoloye:

All these your analysis A=C is your own conclusion.Jesus never called himself God.
All your quotations from the book of Colossians is just like what you are trying to proof
that if A=B and B=C then A=C.
The writers statement was not confirmed either by Jesus or any of the Apostles.
You can see the confirmation of what I was telling you by the Lord himself .

He,Jesus, referred to God as my father in heaven.Jesus is not the Jehovah.
Nobody can kill the Almighty God.He cannot be crucified for the sins of the people he created.

Before we proceed kindly give me the scripture in the entire Bible where
Jesus called or confirmed himself as Jehovah.

OLAADEGBU:
My first question was:



https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-518186.0.html


You answered a capital NO to the question of the Christ being the Creator of heaven and earth and went further to insinuate that John 1:1 has a different meaning in Greek/Hebrew.

Let us consider this John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

The simple logic of this verse can be summed up as thus:

THE WORD = GOD

In John 1:14 it states:

"The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us."

From these verses we can deduce the following:

JESUS = THE WORD

Simple logic declares that

if A=B and

B=C  then

A=C.

Therefore, since

JESUS = THE WORD and

THE WORD = GOD, then

JESUS = GOD

QED.

If you contend that John 1:1 should be translated as "The Word was a god," and not "The Word was God." And if you are using the same line of arguments of the JW's that since theos (the Greek word for God) is preceded by the definite article (the) when it first appears in the verse, and the second time it appears it is not preceded by the definite article, they are therefore justified in translating the last part of John 1:1 "the Word was a god," because God appears without the definite article.  And you claim that John 1:1 does not say anything about Jesus' identity (i.e,  that He is God), but refers to a quality about Him.  There are, however, no reputable authorities or translations that support the JW's translation of this verse.  In fact, their NWT has caused considerable outrage among Greek scholars because it is a major distortion of the text.

You will be surprised that the JW's don't even play by their own rules, it is inconsistently applied throughout their NWT.  Theos appears 6 times without the definite article in the first 18 verses of John's gospel (1,6,12,13 and twice in 18).  Yet, in the NWT, it is rendered God (referring to Jehovah), not a god, in each instance except for the last clause of 1:1, when it refers to Jesus! Do you see their inconsistencies?

To remain consistent, JW's must hold that verse 6 should read,

"There arose a man that was sent forth as a representative of a god,"

that verse 12 should read

"to become a god's children," and so on.

If you observe carefully you will note that the absence of the definite article does not refer to someone other than the true God.  The scholarly Arndt and Gingrich Greek Lexicon, p. 357, states that theos is used "quite predominantly of the true God, sometimes with, sometimes without, the article."