Trully,God says we must not kill and I strongly belief but how would a soldier cope at the war front when he has no option thann to kill?

is not all God says that we do,he will only think he is doing his job.thats what he was trained for

SHALOM!

Who gave then permission to become a "PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER?"

Such a person has FORFEITED THEIR SOUL- period!

When World Heavyweight Boxing Champion Boxer, CASSIUS CLAY could not be defeated by any White man- inferior genes, you see- they DRAFTED him to fight in the VIETNAM WAR.

He said: "WHY?"

They threatened him with the removal of his title, and JAIL for refusing to become a Soldier against people who NEVER did HIM any harm.

So they stripped him of his title, and jailed him.

If American Blacks were INTELLIGENT, they should have BOYCOTTED EVERYTHING WHITE!

Then, people were SURPRISED that he CONVERTED TO ISLAM!

Thou shalt not kill doesn't apply when you have a clear headshot from the scope of your Remington XM2010 sniper rifle to burst open the brains of a terrorist/terrorists with bomb trying kill innocent humans. Infact, God will give you a duplex with unlimited Dstv and Wi-Fi access in heaven for pulling the trigger.


Thou shalt not kill doesn't apply when some mou'fvckers are trying to put you 6 feets under.


Thing is, apply your common sense in this life.

God say dnt kill ...dat does nt mean if someone who z extremely evil and killing people shud nt be killed ...in d case of a serving professional soldier who does it 4 a living nd to protect human lyf even God himself will understand ...cus even in the bible it was nt stated for a soldiers in the frontline nt to kill ...cus even in the tym of jesus dy were soldier nd he never preach against them cus he understand the nature of their job ...which z kill or be killed

Na devil go kill for you

God that now killed goliath nko?

Thou shall not kill without reason. If you kill in self defense or war, it's a different case

As it is in Heaven, so it is on earth... there are angel soldiers in Heaven God send to kill on earth.
Remember that young king?

Ask questions if you don't understand

Ok

the very day u begin to apply logic to religion, ur drifting to atheism niyen. focus on how to do good nd how u will enter heaven. all this questions no fit epp person

Kill or be killed..
Shikena

It is under the umbrella of self country defense

First of all, the post is from 2007

Secondly I wonder if you people read the bible for u
Thirdly even God's people fought wars after the commandments were given.

K

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

Who gave then permission to become a "PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER?"

Such a person has FORFEITED THEIR SOUL- period!

When World Heavyweight Boxing Champion Boxer, CASSIUS CLAY could not be defeated by any White man- inferior genes, you see- they DRAFTED him to fight in the VIETNAM WAR.

He said: "WHY?"

They threatened him with the removal of his title, and JAIL for refusing to become a Soldier against people who NEVER did HIM any harm.

So they stripped him of his title, and jailed him.

If American Blacks were INTELLIGENT, they should have BOYCOTTED EVERYTHING WHITE!

Then, people were SURPRISED that he CONVERTED TO ISLAM!

Bro we have soldiers even from the beginning of time, Army

Complex question. God doesn't frown against soldiers of war. The Israelites are good examples.

Bros this question is uncalled for... If you read in the Bible God actually sends soldiers after enemies and Comand them to smite them


No be God give David power to kill goliath

Killing in safe defence of when faced with the enemy in war, is not a SIN.

is it not the same Skydaddy of yours that also said:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)


Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)


Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)


Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)


Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)


Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)


Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)


Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)


Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)


2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)


Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)


Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)


2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)


Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)


Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)


2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:
Kill Brats
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)


God Kills the Curious
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)


Killed by a Lion
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)


Killing the Good Samaritan
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)


3) Murdering Children
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)


God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)
Source: http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

you serve a hypocritical god

credit: Hahn

[size=18pt]TRUE CHRISTIANS DON'T KILL, THEY DON'T JOIN THE ARMY, THEY DON'T GO TO WAR. [/size]
Jesus said He who kills by the sword shall die by one. He also said to love, not kill even your enemies. He even said to turn the other cheek when slapped.
Christendom is in darkness and headed for DOOM at Armageddon.

All u so called christendom churches wake up

shey den no fight war inside bible ni?

If my memory serves me right, he had a lot of personal assassins, David was the head of his squad. I can't even compute the number of death he was responsible for in his time.

[b]
Tough question. One of the most important of the 10 Commandments states “Though shall not kill.” Christians who believe in a literal translation of the Bible might not differentiate between murder or killing in wartime. I personally believe that killing in battle would not exempt a good man from heaven.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains:

The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. “The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one’s life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . the one is intended, the other is not.”

Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one’s own right to live. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:
If a man in self uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful… nor is it necessary for salivation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one’s own life than of another’s.

Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility. (CCC #2263-2265).

In most Christian circles, war is seen as a form of killing which is vastly different than murder. To this extent then, the morality of the act, which we might assume determines ultimately whether one’s destination is heaven or hell, is based on the[size=15pt]” just cause”[/size] of the war in question.
That said, the question raises an important issue for our collective conscience as a society, which bears the responsibility for sending its sons and daughters to war.[/b]

SEA:

Trully,God says we must not kill and I strongly belief but how would a soldier cope at the war front when he has no option thann to kill?

Why do you people like posting rubbish? Na by force to get likes? Even me wey be atheist know more about the bible than una.

God said we shouldn't kill, but we have soldiers in the bible who fought and killed for their land...

David and his war expeditions....
I remember a man who wanted to go to war, he asked for God's blessings and that when he comes back the first thing he sees he'd give unto God, he went to war, fought and killed all their enemies in a day or so, and when he came back his daughter was the first.

I'm an atheist but this is a dumb thread, even the bible records conflict.

And yea calcius clay AKA mohammed was just scared to die #simple...who wouldnt?

That stuff about going to fight people who did him no harm is quite dull, same goes for vegetarians.

Just say you're scared to get your limbs blown off, me sef no go gree such compulsory conscription cos I no wan die.

But don't claim it's cos of some ideology...that's just cowardice.

Christians always coming out to contradict them sef

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Although i dont know the bible too well, but i think when a soldier kills, its never a sin. There is a part in the bible where Joshua stopped the sun to kill his enemies, his action wasnt questioned by God, he wouldn't have done that if God didnt permit it. Samson killed the philistines warriors with a Bone, still God gave him his strength when he needed it the most...so if a soldier kills in other to!protect lifes and properties i dont think its a sin.