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Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:18am On Nov 11, 2010
The State Security Service on Wednesday insisted that the intercepted arms at Apapa Port in Lagos were meant for Nigeria and not Israel.


The SSS Assistant Director, Public Relations, Marilyn Ogar, disclosed this in Abuja during a press conference.




According to Ogar, the bill of lading which listed the cargo as building materials had Nigeria as destination.


She also said that the SSS had arrested the consignee and the clearing agent whose identities she did not disclose.


The development came just as the SSS said it had arrested the car dealers at Amuwo –Odofin, Lagos from whom the cars used in the Abuja bomb blasts were purchased as part of ongoing investigations into the incident.


Ogar added that the SSS had also arrested the welder who welded the compartment that housed the bombs in the cars at Charles Okah’s residence, Apapa from where they were subsequently moved to Port Harcourt and wired.


She also told journalists that investigators had recovered the purchase receipts for the two cars.


She, however, refused to disclose the number and names of the arrested persons.


She said, “On the intercepted arms at Apapa Port, the service had been monitoring the movement of the illegal cargo before it arrived in the country. The ship that carried the cargo arrived at Tin Can Port on July 10, 2010 with 371 containers out of which 83 were discharged at Frano bonded warehouse, Cele- Ijesha, Lagos. The said ship departed on July 11.


“On October 20, 13 containers out of the 83 were moved from Frano to AP Molar Terminal, Apapa Port, where service personnel requested for 100 per cent inspection of the containers.


The bill of lading read building materials comprising glass-wood and pallets of stones with destination as Nigeria, hence any argument that the cargo came into this country by mistake is false.”


When asked to clarify if the cargo was cleared from the port and taken to the Frano bonded warehouse at Cele-Ijesha, Itire, Lagos, considering the distance between the two locations, Ogar feigned security concern, saying that “I won’t answer that question; investigation is still continuing and we are uncovering a lot of things.”


Ogar also denied that the SSS was trying the suspects secretly, pointing out that the court had granted the accused persons access to their lawyers, saying they had contacted family members in that respect.


She further said that the service had been procedural in the prosecution of the suspects.


She explained that the perpetrators of the Warri bombings of March 15, 2010 had been arrested, stressing that they were the same people used by a former leader of the Movement for the Emancipation of Niger Delta, Mr. Henry Okah, to execute the October 1 bombings.


Ogar claimed that Henry Okah came from South Africa for the Warri bombings, purchased the cars which were then moved to the welder and later to the house of one of the suspects on March 13 where he personally wired the bombs.


“Subsequently, on March 14, Okah departed the country, apparently to create an alibi for himself over the bombings that eventually took place the next day,” she added.

source: http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art20101111358539

Read the tribune version here: http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/13421-seized-weapons-meant-for-nigeria-sss-declares-arrests-clearing-agent-consignee
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:21am On Nov 11, 2010
angry As if we don't know this before!   angry
Don't know why we are still hand in glove with Iran, though?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:25am On Nov 11, 2010
The real question is why Nigeria? Why?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 2:27am On Nov 11, 2010
Didn't the initial claim that it was from Iran on it's way out to palestine or was it Israel, come from the SSS? Or who made all that up?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by aljharem(m): 2:28am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Didn't the initial claim that it was from Iran on it's way out to palestine or was it Israel, come from the SSS?
gbam

this ppl are just lying to us angry angry
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by koruji(m): 2:28am On Nov 11, 2010
Well, at least they are given us some news, instead of the backdoor resolution it appeared to have become.

Hopefully, they will keep us updated on developments. This is a national emergency, and though this news conference provided some useful info, it has raised more questions:

1. If it was meant for Nigeria, where is its final destination?
2. What is the plot behind importation of such deadly weapons?
3. Most importantly, WHO is/are behind this treasonable act?

We are watching and waiting!
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by aljharem(m): 2:30am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

The real question is why Nigeria? Why?  
because our government is so corrupt that there leaders can lie to there citizen and get away with it
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:30am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Didn't the initial claim that it was from Iran on it's way out to palestine or was it Israel, come from the SSS? Or who made all that up?

Maybe they were trying to deflect the heat from some VIPs involved, uno naija naa!
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by koruji(m): 2:31am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Didn't the initial claim that it was from Iran on it's way out to palestine or was it Israel, come from the SSS? Or who made all that up?
It was Israel itself that made the claim.

na2day!:

Maybe they were trying to deflect the heat from some VIPs involved, uno naija naa!

alj harem:

gbam
this ppl are just lying to us angry angry
There is no "gbam" to that question in terms of SSS lying - we don't know at this point, and they didn't not make the initial claim.
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 2:34am On Nov 11, 2010
[size=14pt]Weapons seized in Nigeria came from Iran: shipping company[/size]


(Reuters) - Crates of weapons including rocket launchers and mortars seized in Nigeria this week were loaded in Iran by a local trader, the company which shipped the containers said on Saturday.

French-based shipping group CMA CGM said it had been the victim of a false cargo declaration and that the weapons and ammunitions were in sealed containers which had been declared as "packages of glass wool and pallets of stone."

Nigeria's secret service intercepted the 13 containers in the country's main port of Lagos -- one of Africa's busiest -- this week and said it found rocket launchers, grenades and other explosives and ammunition.

"The shipment in question was booked as a 'shipper's owned container' and supplied loaded and sealed by the shipper, an Iranian trader who does not appear on any 'forbidden persons' listing," CMA CGM said in a statement.

"The containers were loaded in Bandar Abbas and discharged in Lagos in July," it said, adding it was cooperating fully with local and international agencies investigating the shipment.

Israeli media reports, citing Israeli defense officials, have suggested the weapons may have been destined for Hamas Islamists in Gaza and that a new smuggling route was being tested. Israel's foreign ministry has declined to comment.

Israel says its arch-foe Iran bankrolls attempts to ship weapons to the Gaza Strip by sea or land routes. Iran says its support for Hamas is diplomatic only.

The Iranian embassy in Nigeria said it may issue a statement on the arms seizure in the coming days.

HEAVY MORTARS

The weapons shown to journalists in Lagos this week included 107mm rockets, designed to attack static targets and used by armies to support infantry units. Security experts say they have also been used by groups including the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

Nigeria's secret service has said it is too soon to speculate on where the weapons were going and that investigations are continuing. The customs service said the only documentation it had seen was the manifest and could not immediately confirm the containers had come from Iran.

CMA CGM said the containers had been held by customs since arriving in Lagos in July. It is not unusual for shipments to take several months to pass through customs clearance in the port, one of the busiest on the continent.

The French shipping firm said the shipper had requested that the containers be re-loaded and shipped to Gambia, further round the West African coast, and that it had obtained customs documents and clearance for the voyage.

But the Nigerian authorities blocked the goods before they could be re-exported, it said.

The seizure has heightened concerns about national security in Africa's most populous nation months ahead of elections.


It came weeks after car bombs killed at least 10 people near an independence day parade in the capital Abuja on October 1.

Militant groups in the oil-producing Niger Delta have been illegally supplied weapons for years and Boko Haram, a radical Islamist group in the north, is also believed to have received illegal arms, raising questions about border surveillance.

The authorities have said they have stepped up security in the wake of both the Abuja bombings and the Lagos seizure.


http://politifi.com/news/Weapons-seized-in-Nigeria-came-from-Iran-shipping-company-1257112.html
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Nobody: 2:35am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

The State Security Service on Wednesday [b]insisted [/b]that the intercepted arms at Apapa Port in Lagos were meant for Nigeria and not Israel.


The SSS Assistant Director, Public Relations, Marilyn Ogar, disclosed this in Abuja during a press conference.




According to Ogar, the bill of lading which listed the cargo as building materials had Nigeria as destination.


She also said that the SSS had arrested the consignee and the clearing agent whose identities she did not disclose.


The development came just as the SSS said it had arrested the car dealers at Amuwo –Odofin, Lagos from whom the cars used in the Abuja bomb blasts were purchased as part of ongoing investigations into the incident.


Ogar added that the SSS had also arrested the welder who welded the compartment that housed the bombs in the cars at Charles Okah’s residence, Apapa from where they were subsequently moved to Port Harcourt and wired.


She also told journalists that investigators had recovered the purchase receipts for the two cars.


She, however, refused to disclose the number and names of the arrested persons.


She said, “On the intercepted arms at Apapa Port, the service had been monitoring the movement of the illegal cargo before it arrived in the country. The ship that carried the cargo arrived at Tin Can Port on July 10, 2010 with 371 containers out of which 83 were discharged at Frano bonded warehouse, Cele- Ijesha, Lagos. The said ship departed on July 11.


“On October 20, 13 containers out of the 83 were moved from Frano to AP Molar Terminal, Apapa Port, where service personnel requested for 100 per cent inspection of the containers.


The bill of lading read building materials comprising glass-wood and pallets of stones with destination as Nigeria, hence any argument that the cargo came into this country by mistake is false.”


When asked to clarify if the cargo was cleared from the port and taken to the Frano bonded warehouse at Cele-Ijesha, Itire, Lagos, considering the distance between the two locations, Ogar feigned security concern, saying that “I won’t answer that question; investigation is still continuing and we are uncovering a lot of things.”


Ogar also denied that the SSS was trying the suspects secretly, pointing out that the court had granted the accused persons access to their lawyers, saying they had contacted family members in that respect.


She further said that the service had been procedural in the prosecution of the suspects.


She explained that the perpetrators of the Warri bombings of March 15, 2010 had been arrested, stressing that they were the same people used by a former leader of the Movement for the Emancipation of Niger Delta, Mr. Henry Okah, to execute the October 1 bombings.


Ogar claimed that Henry Okah came from South Africa for the Warri bombings, purchased the cars which were then moved to the welder and later to the house of one of the suspects on March 13 where he personally wired the bombs.


“Subsequently, on March 14, Okah departed the country, apparently to create an alibi for himself over the bombings that eventually took place the next day,” she added.
So where did they make initial claim ?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:36am On Nov 11, 2010
koruji:

It was Israel itself that made the claim.
There is no "gbam" to that question in terms of SSS lying - we don't know at this point, and they didn't not make the initial claim.

U know Israel naa, any time Iran is mentioned, they always believe there's a conspiracy to get them!
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:44am On Nov 11, 2010
Iran is a closed state, there is no way in hell that kind of firepower will leave Iran without state sanction and i strongly suspect Quds force at work here, i don't know why we've not recalled our ambassador by now and kick their own out? Gaddafi said we should split and the country wanted to recall our ambassador, some one shipped a serious military hardware into the hands of non state actors and we are grinning like an id.iot! angry
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Beaf: 2:44am On Nov 11, 2010
We always knew the consignment was meant for Nigeria. Now we need to get to the root of the matter quickly.
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 2:53am On Nov 11, 2010
Lets know what we are against!

What is QUDS FORCE?

The Quds Force (Persian: نیروی قدس, translit. Niru-ye Qods), (or Qods Force) is a special unit of Iran's Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (Revolutionary Guard). It has been described as "tasked with exporting" Iran's Islamic revolution, or "responsible for extraterritorial operations" of the Revolutionary Guard.

The Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Its current commander is Brigadier General Qassem Suleimani.

While "little is reliably known" about the force by outsiders, as of 2007, its size was estimated at 15,000 troops and operatives.

The Federation of American Scientists, in a document from 1998, says the primary mission of the Quds Force is to organize, train, equip, and finance foreign Islamic revolutionary movements. It further states that the Quds Force maintains and builds contacts with underground Islamic militant organizations throughout the Islamic world. shocked shocked shocked (Boko Haram et al)

Focus of the Force

The Quds force has four main areas of interest:
Hezbollah operations in Lebanon
Iraqi Kurdistan
Kashmir, the Balouch and Afghanistan
And most recently Yemen

In the past the Quds force has also supported the establishment of Hezbollah branches in Jordan and Israel.

Quds Force is considered by some analysts as "one of the best special forces units in the world," according to a Los Angeles Times report. In Abedin's view, It's a very capable force — their people are extremely talented, [and] they tend to be the best people in the IRGC."

he Quds Force trains and equips foreign Islamic revolutionary groups around the Middle East. The para-military instruction provided by the Quds Force typically occurs in Iran or Sudan. Foreign recruits are transported from their home countries to Iran to receive training. The Quds Force sometimes plays a more direct role in the military operations of the forces it trains, including pre-attack planning and other operation-specific military advice.

Afghanistan

Iran had supported the Afghan Northern Alliance forces against the Taliban before the US did in its 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. Iran almost began a war in 1999 with Afghanistan when Taliban forces killed several Iranian officials.

Al Qaeda

Iran is believed by some to have detained the son of Osama bin Laden, Sa'ad bin Laden, at one point in time.

Lebanon

After the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, Quds Force has been cited as possibly providing the millions of US dollars being handed out by the group Hezbollah for reconstruction.

South America

It's been reported that Iran has been increasing its presence in Latin America through Venezuela. Little is known publicly what their objectives are in the region but in 2009, Defense Secretary Robert Gates denounced Iran for meddling in "subversive activities" using Qud forces. However, Iran claims it is merely "ensuring the survival of the regime" by propagating regional influence.  As far back as 1994, Quds were suspected of financing and aiding Hezbollah in an attack on a Jewish center in Buenos Aires which resulted in the deaths of 85 victims.

Iraq

Quds Force has been described as the Iranian "unit deployed to challenge the United State presence" in Iraq following the US invasion of that country, which put "165,000 American troops along [Iran's] western border," adding to the American troops already in Iran's eastern neighbor Afghanistan.

The force "operated throughout Iraq, arming, aiding, and abetting Shiite militias" — the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, Dawa, and the Mahdi Army — "all" of which "had close ties to Iran, some dating back decades" as part of their struggle against Saddam Hussien's oppressive Arab nationalist regime.

In November 2006 , with sectarian violence in Iraq increasing, US Gen. John Abizaid accused Quds Force of supporting "Shi'a death squads" even while the government of Iran pledges support in stabilization. Similarly, in July 2007, Major General Kevin Bergner of the U.S. Army alleged that members of the Quds Force aided in the planning of a raid on U.S. forces in the Iraqi city of Karbala in January 2007.

Former CIA officer Robert Baer asserts the Quds Force uses couriers for all sensitive communications

Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Beaf: 2:56am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

. . .
Focus of the Force

The Quds force has four main areas of interest:
Hezbollah operations in Lebanon Nigeria
Iraqi Kurdistan
Kashmir, the Balouch and Afghanistan
And most recently Yemen
. . .
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 3:01am On Nov 11, 2010
I pray Nigeria will not become another Iraq or Afghanistan, Just like Colonel Miles Quaritch predicted in Avatar, Nigeria being a badland where he honed his skills at killing! shocked
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 3:06am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

Iran is a closed state, there is no way in hell that kind of firepower will leave Iran without state sanction and i strongly suspect Quds force at work here, i don't know why we've not recalled our ambassador by now and kick their own out? Gaddafi said we should split and the country wanted to recall our ambassador, some one shipped a serious military hardware into the hands of non state actors and we are grinning like an id.iotangry

According to the french company, that cargo has been held since July of this year. How did Ghaddafi come in to this? What do we know?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 3:10am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

According to the french company, that cargo has been held since July of this year. How did Ghaddafi come in to this? I am confused.
Just making an allusion to the fact that the politicians were ready to recall the ambassador to Libya because Ghaddafi put his foot in his mouth by calling for Nigeria's breakup and they are pussyfooting in recalling the ambassador to Iran wit all these allegations! Who is more dangeous: Ghaddafi or Ahmedinajad? undecided
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 3:15am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

Just making an allusion to the fact that the politicians were ready to recall the ambassador to Libya because Ghaddafi put his foot in his mouth by calling for Nigeria's breakup and they are pussyfooting in recalling the ambassador to Iran wit all these allegations! Who is more dangeous: Ghaddafi or Ahmedinajad? undecided

The man has been putting his foot in his mouth for a long time now, all of a sudden, we want to consider him a threat? A threat to what exactly? He is no more a threat than our own leaders have been, and continue to be to our existence as a nation and a people.
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 3:19am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:


The man has been putting his foot in his mouth for a long time now, all of a sudden, we want to consider him a threat? A threat to what exactly? He is no more a threat than our own leaders have been, and continue to be to our existence as a nation and a people. 


You can tell our elected Reps and Senators that! they were calling for his head when he made that statement! i havent heard a peep from them since the weapons were discovered, is it that they are dumb or what?  undecided
Maybe they just don't understand that Nigeria is at war, the war happening on the world stage is gradually creeping into our backyard!
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 3:23am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

You can tell our elected Reps and Senators that! they were calling for his head when he made that statement! i havent heard a peep from them since the weapons were discovered, is it that they are dumb or what?  undecided
Maybe they just don't understand that Nigeria is at war, the war happening on the world stage is gradually creeping into our backyard!

What war would that be?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 3:28am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

What war would that be?

grin My sis, u're pretending as if u dont know?
I'm talking about the Pandora's box that was opened by Bush et al
Islamic extremism that wants to return the whole world back to the stone age!
We've had a taste of it inform of the Boko Haram's uprising and if d Govt. does not move fast?
May God help us!
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 3:37am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

grin My sis, u're pretending as if u dont know?
I'm talking about the Pandora's box that was opened by Bush et al
Islamic extremism that wants to return the whole world back to the stone age!
We've had a taste of it inform of the Boko Haram's uprising and if d Govt. does not move fast?
May God help us!
OH Boy!
I am not in any way pretending  . . .  I just do not share the view of yours that Nigeria is somehow to be involved in this. We have GREATER issues to tackle right there in our own backyard. No need to seek relevance and attention outside by trying to inject ourselves into battles, out there, that have little or nothing to do with us.  Contrary to the view held by some in the south, Northerners are not out there looking for ways to inject themselves into these battles. Most of that reasoning comes from panic ridden people, mostly in the south, who are looking for yet another reason to ignore the most pressing issues right in front of us, so they can have yet another thing to blame the north for. 

If you look closely at the many riots up in the north, you quickly realize it has little to do with religion but more to do with poverty and anger. Boko Haram is a tiny sect and we should not now make them out into some significant force out there actually threatening our democracy in anyway. The North is already in the hands of sharia and even that has yet to help them keep things together.  We have worse situations to deal with as a nation – we have been held as slaves in our own democracy for well over a decade now. When do we get around to fighting that battle?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by becomrich5: 3:49am On Nov 11, 2010
do you need sss to tell you that. nigeria would end up in a civil war. Go and check the satellite picture. there would be blood bath. You better carry your family run.  The satellite picture shows there is no way you can settle this. it would end up in blood bath.

There is nobody you would put there as president, that it would not end up in blood bath.  So you are better up breaking the country.

I say it delta state join the republic of Benin. All the nonsense going on., where micheal okonta was suddenly remove as a pre plan to the remove of delta governor is nonsense.  Look under international law. delta state would loss all the oil if they dont join benin republic.  Niger delta republic has no passport.

They would arrest all of you , who are shouting niger delta at london airport. you can go and use biafra passport travel and see , how they would gedi you for airport.


Here are books written in the 18' century about the place call agbor and the agbor people. What britian did was they wrote down historical account of places in Nigeria. So your sudden land cease does not hold water in international court. You cant immigrate to a place, where others are already living there and you say, you want to make claim to someone else land. They dont do it in international land.

There are igbos who are immigrate to lagos, it does not mean they own the land.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=agbor+people&hl=en&tbs=bks:1&ei=cC7bTKXfBsaUnAfHw-UW&start=60&sa=N

you people are setting nigeria up for civil war. we are talking of human life here. Can some people drop thier self. And know you are in trouble. You are about to start a civil war.


Now explain to me and the whole world. How is it possible that the Uhrobo people who are from benin  can travel 100 kilometer are from benin. But the closet city to benin city Agbor which is just 50 km is not from benin. But you claim from igboland. That is not possible. History says you are telling lies.  Even ishan people are from benin . It is 70 kilometer from Benin , but you are claiming the city just 50 km is from igbo, which is 70 kilometer from agbor.

Dont forget , there was no bridge at Onitsha before the white man came.  no explain to me your thoery. You forgot britian people kept very good record. Check that google books. you would find true account of agbor town.  make una give this north people share, make them make us comot. they can kep the name nigeria. that name don bad already.

Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 3:57am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

OH Boy!
I am not in any way pretending  . . .  I just do not share the view of yours that Nigeria is somehow to be involved in this in anyway. We have GREATER issues to tackle right there in our own backyard. No need to seek relevance by trying to inject ourselves into battles, out there, that have little or nothing to do with us.  Contrary to the view held by some in the south, Northerners are not out there looking for ways to inject themselves into these battles. Most of that reasoning comes from panic ridden people, mostly in the south, who are looking for yet another reason to ignore the most pressing issues right in front of us, so they can have yet another thing to blame the north for.  

If you look closely at the many riots up in the north, you quickly realize it has little to do with religion but more to do with poverty and anger. Boko Haram is a tiny sect and we should not now make them out into some significant force out there actually threatening our democracy in anyway. The North is already in the hands of sharia and even that has yet to help them keep things together.  We have worse situations to deal with as a nation – we have been held as slaves in our own democracy for well over a decade now. When do we get around to fighting that battle?  


Its true that we have developmental issues to sort our here! but neglecting a considerable cache of arms smuggled into the country (God only knows how many slipped through) is tantamount to behaving like an ostrich burying its head in d sand. We really don't know, which group  the weapons is going to, but i can assure you its not for the Christians  grin
@ Northerners are not out there looking for ways to inject themselves into these battles
i can assure u again, many youth had already injected themselves and not only northerners (even youths from the west!)
Around 2002/3 in Lagos, a friend, who is a muslim was approached by some group to follow them on a Jihad in Afghanistan which was being sponsored by a popular Islamic group in Nigeria, he wanted to go but was ambushed by his mother, that was in Lagos o!
Many of those youths have gone, some of them are back and these people are not like you and me again.
They exist all over the place, its not until another Muttallab blow up something b4 we realize that whether we like it or not, there is a war on!
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 4:00am On Nov 11, 2010
@ becomerich
whats the relationship of this with the matter at hand? undecided
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 4:12am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

Its true that we have developmental issues to sort our here! but neglecting a considerable cache of arms smuggled into the country (God only knows how many slipped through) is tantamount to behaving like an ostrich burying its head in d sand. We really don't know, which group the weapons is going to, but i can assure you its not for the Christians grin
Arms smuggled into your country means the country now needs to inject itself into a war that has nothing to do with it? Give me a break!

na2day!:

@ Northerners are not out there looking for ways to inject themselves into these battles
i can assure u many youth had already injected themselves and not only northerners alone (even youths from the west!)
I hate to inform you that to date, only one Nigerian has actually been directly linked to Alquaeeda attack. No other Nigerian has been directly linked, not even that boys father to the same. I think we need to, in our paranoia, be sure to understand that it is in our best interest that we hold fast to reality.
na2day!:

Around 2002 in Lagos, a friend, who is a muslim was approached by some group to follow them on a Jihad in Afghanistan which was being sponsored by a popular Islamic group in Nigeria, he wanted to go but was ambushed by his mother, that was in Lagos o!
It is 2010 and to date, we have yet to hear of the many other Nigerian muslims who you claim were probably approached by the same group to Jihad in the same Afghanistan. The only Nigerian that has been able to get Nigeria on the list of terrorist countries happens to be a depressed Nigerian brat whose father gave him all and raised him abroad. No one else has appeared on that direct list.

na2day!:

Many of those youths have gone, some of them are back and these people are not like you and me again.
They exist all over the place, its not until another Muttallab blow up something b4 we realize that whether we like it or not, there is a war on!
Oh wow!!! Where is the record to show this?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 4:29am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Arms smuggled into your country means the country now needs to inject itself into a war that has nothing to do with it? Give me a break!
I hate to inform you that to date, only one Nigerian has actually been directly linked to Alquaeeda attack. No other Nigerian has been directly linked, not even that boys father to the same. I think we need to, in our paranoia, be sure to understand that once we cross the link between what is real and what is made up, we are likely to keep falling and may never recover in time. It is 2010 and to date, we have yet to hear of the many other Nigerian muslims who you claim were probably approached by the same group to Jihad in the same Afghanistan. The only Nigerian that has been able to get Nigeria on the list of terrorist countries happens to be a depressed Nigerian brat whose father gave him all and raised him abroad. No one else has appeared on that direct list.
Oh wow!!! Where is the record to show this?


grin Don't get me wrong all i'm saying is dat Iran ought to be penalized for the arms importation and also for giving asylum to the prime suspect in their embassy
@ be sure to understand that once we cross the link between what is real and what is made up, we are likely to keep falling and may never recover in time
The story i just narrated is very real, because u didnt read anything from the newspaper doesn't remove the realness! u want evidence, come back to nigeria and start mixing with some of these radicalized youth, u'll understand what i'm saying. A year ago if someone says that a Nigerian can attempt to blow a plane, of course u'll say " oh dats ridiculous, nigerians love life, they dont want to die" but the reality is different!
I'm sure the Nitros in the imported explosives wasnt for farmers to be used as fertilizers!
Dont let us wait until we start seeing suicide bombers on d street b4 we start acting! undecided
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 4:36am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

grin Don't get me wrong all i'm saying is dat Iran ought to be penalized for the arms importation and also for giving asylum to the prime suspect in their embassy
@ be sure to understand that once we cross the link between what is real and what is made up, we are likely to keep falling and may never recover in time
The story i just narrated is very real, because u didnt read anything from the newspaper doesn't remove the realness! u want evidence, come back to nigeria and start mixing with some of these radicalized youth, u'll understand what i'm saying. A year ago if someone says that a Nigerian can attempt to blow a plane, of course u'll say " oh dats ridiculous, nigerians love life, they dont want to die" but the reality is different!
I'm sure the Nitros in the imported explosives wasnt for farmers to be used as fertilizers!

I have myself read many such stories from the Nigerian papers Tabloids but at the end of the day, it is all talk and nothing more. If Nigerians are actually going out to fight in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, do you seriously believe that the outside world would not have heard of them by now? We read a lot of trash from our papers and most of them end up being just that, all fluff and next to no substance. Most of those who make these stories do so to seek relevance of some kind. 

By the way, I was not surprised in anyway by the muttallab fellow. Considering his mental state, there is no surprise there. I understand where he probably got to and why he would pursue such a goal, now that in no way is typical of Nigerians. When you want to talk of Nigerians going out on suicide missions, then you are speaking  of something entirely different because the average Nigerian is not a muttallab. The average Northerner is nowhere close to being a muttallab. The boy was not in any way your typical Nigerian and so this is not really about Nigerians in any way. You make a mistake when you try to paint many more of our youths with the muttallab brush. Mutallab had serious psychological issues(please note that this does not mean he was coo coo in the head or any thing of the sort) that drove him to do what he did.
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by na2day(m): 4:56am On Nov 11, 2010
Kobojunkie:

I have myself read many such stories from the Nigerian papers Tabloids but at the end of the day, it is all talk and nothing more. If Nigerians are actually going out to fight in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, do you seriously believe that the outside world would not have heard of them by now? We read a lot of trash from our papers and most of them end up being just that, all fluff and next to no substance. Most of those who make these stories do so to seek relevance of some kind. 

By the way, I was not surprised in anyway by the muttallab fellow. Considering his mental state, there is no surprise there. I understand where he probably got to and why he would pursue such a goal, now that in no way is typical of Nigerians. When you want to talk of Nigerians going out on suicide missions, then you are speaking  of something entirely different because the average Nigerian is not a muttallab. The average Northerner is nowhere close to being a muttallab. The boy was not in any way your typical Nigerian and so this is not really about Nigerians in any way. You make a mistake when you try to paint many more of our youths with the muttallab brush. Mutallab had serious psychological issues(please note that this does not mean he was coo coo in the head or any thing of the sort) that drove him to do what he did.


What i just wrote wasn't a story from the newspaper! its as real as u're typing, i hope u know dat they don't carry passport on such journey, many had to travel thru north africa and sh.it to get there, some of those youths still have unmarked graves in afghan badlands!
and Muttalab is not a norm, but there are still many more like him.
The paramount issue is dat we have a serious problem on our hands
angry angry angry WHO ARE THOSE WEAPONS MEANT FOR?
Re: Seized Rockets Meant For Nigeria, Not Gaza — Sss by Kobojunkie: 5:15am On Nov 11, 2010
na2day!:

What i just wrote wasn't a story from the newspaper! its as real as u're typing, i hope u know dat they don't carry passport on such journey, many had to travel thru north africa and sh.it to get there, some of those youths still have unmarked graves in afghan badlands!
and Muttalab is not a norm, but there are still many more like him.
The paramount issue is dat we have a serious problem on our hands
angry angry angry WHO ARE THOSE WEAPONS MEANT FOR?

Now you are entering into MYTH LAND. There are records of Sudanese, Algerians, Moroccans and so many other nationals who went out toi fight in Afghanistan or Iraq but all the Nigerians who went, according to you, were never intercepted, nor were they even detected by anyone, not even the locals in Afghanistan or Iraq who they were fighting with because they chose not to go with their passports and are probably all dead and buried in unmarked graves? Are you kidding me? ROFLMAO!

I can comfortably tell you this . . . and I wait for you to prove me wrong. There are not a lot of muttalabs out there in Nigeria – Nigerians are generally not known to be that way. We are speaking of a depressed individual who felt the way he could get freedom was to sacrifice himself for his belief. He was not the classic ANGRY MUSLIM, neither was he the typical Nigerian Youth. So, I doubt you will find a lot of muttallabs out there in Nigeria, but I wish you luck in that search.

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