2: Osama can destroy the shias by quoting these statements from a famous shia Imam:

"Imam Sadiq (AS) stated: 'Get married but do not divorce, because a divorce would tremble the Arsh (empyrean) of Allah'." [ Source: Makarim al-Akhlaq, p 225. ]

"Imam Sadiq (AS) also stated: 'Allah likes the house which is inhabited in the wake of marriage and dislikes the house which is abandoned in the wake of divorce. There is nothing more detestable to Allah than a divorce." [ Source: Wasa'il al-Shi'ah, vol 15, p 267. ]

pulsar.gif (2171 bytes) Imam Ja'far moreover said that Muta is Zina (fornication/adultery) in al Bidayat Al Mujtahid. pulsar.gif (2171 bytes)

[ moreover remember that shias consider their imams free from sins and errors as far as i know. These shia sources therefore hit hard back at those shias who think Muta is allowed and a "praiseworthy act" ]

ma salama



(b)- The Prophet allowed Muta ONLY TWICE - by brother Karim:

Salaam brothers , some USefull info for brothers wo want to debate the Muta issue with shamoun could perhaps take some usefull from the below article:

Muta:
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In the history of Islam, The Prophet (saw) allowed muta'a twice in his lifetime. The first time the Prophet (saw) allowed it for three days, at the war of Khaiber, and after three days it was made haram. Once Ali argued with a man who believed in Muta'a and told him that the Prophet made muta'a and the meat of donkey haram on the day of Khaiber (Bukhari vol. 7, pg. 287 and vol. 4 pg. 134). This hadith can also be found in shiya hadith books, which I will mention later.

The second time the Prophet (saw) allowed it was at the conquest of Mecca, for three days, and then he made it haram again till the day of Judgment (Muslim vol. 4 pg. 133). Notice, the practice of
muta'a was then made haram till the Day of Judgement.This is confirmed with the hadiths in the following books: Imam Ahmed's Musnad vol. 16 pg. 192-193, Muslim vol. 4, pg. 132, Bayhaki vol. 7 pg. 293-294.

Since there was a time when muta'a was halal. Therefore, one can find hadith saying that it was halal. However, the latter hadith, which follows the final order of jurisprudence set by the the Prophet(saw), takes precedence over the former hadith.

Ninety-nine percent of the companions followed this opinion, but there was one percent who believed muta'a can be performed in extreme case of necessity in the land of war. This one percent is divided into two groups.

One says, it is allowed with the khalipha's permission, and the other says there is no need for the permission . Those who do not believe in khalipha's permission say that it was Umar who made it haram. Their proof is based upon an opinion by a companion namely Ibn Abbas. People misused this opinion of Ibn Abbas until he clarified himself and said, Wallahi I did not mean what they did! I meant similarly to what Allah meant when he allowed the meat of dead animals and pork to be eaten in extreme necessity. This is referring to the time when people abused the rule of necessity at time of Umar, following the understanding of the one percent. Finally, Umar declared and taught it to be haram when a lady came to Umar complaining about how her husband in muta'a, who was married, would not take responsibility of the child. He realized how the society was becoming corrupt with similar conditions to adultery. Thus, he had to teach people and make muta'a haram even in the case of the one percent opinion.

The shiya themselves have a hadith narrated by Ali which states that the Prophet made muta'a haram on the day of Khaiber (Book of Tahdeeb: vol. 7, pg. 251, rewaya 10). The author states that Ali lied for the purposes of safety (taqiya). In Book of Istebsar: vol. 3, pg. 142, rewaya 5, there is a declaration by Ali that muta'a is haram. Again they accuse Ali of lying for safety reasons (taqiya).

One of their highly authentic hadith books, Usool Al-Kaafi: vol. 5, pg. 462, rewaya 1; It has a hadith that states that muta'a for a virgin girl is not recommended because of the shame it will bring upon her parents. Imam Abi-Abdullah narrated: Do not do muta'a with a believer woman, because you will humiliate her by doing that. (shiya sources: Tahdeeb: vol. 7, pg. 253, rewaya 14:21; Istibsaar: vol. 3, pg. 143, rewaya 4:93). In Shiya beliefs, there are many contradictions regarding as to whom muta'a can be performed with. In one hadith, it is stated that muta'a can only be done with a believer (Kaafi: vol. 5, pg. 454, rewaya 3-4) whereas, in rewaya 27, it is stated that muta'a is not allowed with a muslimah, it is only allowed with Jewish or Christian women. In Beharul-anwaar(authentic Shiya hadith book) vol. 103, pg. 340, rewaya 10:3, it is also stated that it is haram to do muta'a with a person who is married or able to marry.

With the given confusion in the books of shiyas regarding muta'a, and it being haram among the sunnis, should really make one think hard before believing that they are doing marriage in a halal way and in the name of Allah.

Source:

http://www.iol.ie/~afifi/BICNews/Personal/personal22.htm



(c)- Sincere and burning questions to the Shias!

Muta marriage in Islam doesn't have to end in divorce. It could be and must be a permanent marriage. The sincere ones from the Shias must ask themselves the following questions:
1- Is Muta the way it's practiced today a moral act? No.

2- Does the Noble Quran support my answer? Yes.

3- Do the Shia and Sunni Hadiths support my answer? Yes.
4- Is divorce is highly detestable and would bring sin upon you if you're careless with it? Yes.

5- Is irresponsible marriage also a sin especially when justice and morality are compromised in it? Yes; remember Noble Verse 4:3 above?


The burning question:

6- Are the Shias of today the same as the Jewish Pharisees whom were condemned by Jesus? Yes.



(d)- The Shias' wasted deeds in the Noble Quran!



"Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life while they thought that they were acquiring good by their deeds! (The Noble Quran, 18:104)"



My dear Shia-Muslim brother or sister in Islam, let me ask you a sincere question:

Do you honestly believe that GOD Almighty really allows you to marry and divorce irresponsibly (ex: marry a hot-looking college girl with hot curves for few hours and then divorce her)?

If you don't, then fear His Warning in Noble Verse 18:104 above.

5- Conclusion:

Again, Muta is a legal marriage that was built solely on a sexual desire that existed between two couples to enable them to avoid fornication and prostitution in the society, and to allow the men who couldn't afford a traditional and cultural marriage - because it is too expensive for them - to still be able to wed women. Muta was also allowed to enable men who traveled on foot for 100s of miles to distant lands on foot to marry women at their new local towns to prevent them from raping and committing fornication and/or adultery and all other sexual evil such as homosexuality.

Muta also came to solve social problems that the early Muslims faced. It never came to gratify sexual pleasures, even though sexual pleasures are automatically gratified in marriages. Back in the Prophet's days, literal unclothedness and sexual immorality were high among the pagans as I've clearly shown in the Hadiths above. This clearly proves that the pagans were too sexually open. So Muta also came to ease the sexual temptation and to allow a weaning period for the Muslims to get used to modesty. The Muslims were new to Islam, and they came from sexually open pagan societies.

We have seen above an example of those who twist and pervert the Holy Words of Allah Almighty through the condemnation of the Jewish Pharisees by Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him. We have also seen how Allah Almighty valued the sacredness of marriage throughout the Noble Quran and also through the Hadiths (Sayings) of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. And we have also seen why Prophet Muhammad allowed temporary marriage for a period of time and then forbade it. And even if we take the Shias' claim about no one ever heard the Prophet declare it forbidden, then we still have ample proofs from the Noble Quran and their own sources that clearly condemn temporary marriage and intentional divorce.

you are still doing copy/paste and telling us that Imam Jafar as-Sadeq (as) is against mutah because he is against divorce.when the time of mutah expires that is not the same as divorce.dont you get that you are comparing apples to oranges?

@sweetnecta

Thats solid proof indeed. Nothing to doubt about it.

people with intellect should please read below:

"The second time the Prophet (saw) allowed it was at the conquest of Mecca, for three days, and then he made it haram again till the day of Judgment (Muslim vol. 4 pg. 133). Notice, the practice of
muta'a was then made haram till the Day of Judgement.This is confirmed with the hadiths in the following books"
: Imam Ahmed's Musnad vol. 16 pg. 192-193, Muslim vol. 4, pg. 132, Bayhaki vol. 7 pg. 293-294.


after calling mutah which is permitted in the Quran zina (illicit sex),there is a sunni hadith which says the Prophet allowed it just for 3 days!!!

do you people know what that means?this is what it implies=the Prophet allowed zina (illicit sex) for just 3 days!!!!

is that not an insult to the Prophet?

Therefore, the Shias are indeed the Islamic Pharisees whom are the hypocrites, heathens and deceived ones!  They are immoral Hot fornicators who promote nothing but immorality and whoredom in the Islamic society, despite the fact that not only Allah Almighty and the Prophet of Islam clearly declared irresponsible divorce forbidden, but ironically, one of their major Imams, Imam Jafar, declared it zina (fornication/adultery).

Also, Allah Almighty Said that marriage is a "Great and Solemn Covenant".  He, the Almighty, also Said that if a man divorces a woman carelessly, then he could bring a sin upon himself.  Noble Verses 2:236 and 4:21 and the many other Noble Verses that I mentioned and explained in thorough details, throughout this article, clearly and indisputably prove this.

I would like to conclude this article by saying: Any halal (lawful) act when misused becomes haram (sinful).  This is true with the Jewish Pharisees, and with the modern-day Shias' legalized male and female prostitutes.  They misuse and pervert marriage, and they misuse and pervert divorce.

 
This is my own impute now: Lets take for a moment that there is a woman on earth who submitted herself for muta marriage. If husbands are revolving at her door, or she revolving at the door of one husband after another, how many husbands will she end up with? Which one of her husband is really a husband since both parties in each marriage know that it is a temporary affairs? Why will our Lord legislate a permanent marriage, limiting it to 4, and not wanting any lewdness in the relationship that anyone will assume that temporary marriage is the way of islam, a religion that warns that people should guard their private parts, not not overstepping the boundary set by Allah?

Divorce is a serious thing and marriage should be taken very serious. Temporary is not serious if contrasted with permanent. May Allah forgive all our sins. Amin.

LagosShia:

lol, you're a funny person!!!

you got me laughing really loud!!!

well your question is what do they need husbands for?
i think you know well why you need a man!!!

the answer is very simple.they may have had children and even financially comfortable.but women too got feelings and urges that must be taken care of in a proper way or else that could become a menace to society and a shame on their family if left unattended to in a proper way,

as for the 4 wives issue,some women dont like to share their bed with other women.that is also an issue.while both are permissible,we can cite personal tastes and dislikes for both ways.that will not stop any from being permissible.

inshaAllah i'll get the verses and share them.

uplawal:

laughing hard too ,lol,what a question?what do they need husband for?

It goes a long way,for those Aunties,thats when the thing(sexual enjoyment)is at its peak,and they dnt wanna engage in illicit affair,and also dnt wanna loose thier hubby back home,since its a distance that separate them and some day the distance will no more be there but before then,something sweet must shele in a clean way.

Pls we need answers o,as i wanna start connecting people right now,lol

Oh, niiiice.  So LagosShia is laughing.  And Uplawal joins in.  I get the feeling one is laughing with me and one is laughing at me.  Anyway, I am through with you O, Uplawal.  Even though we don't even know each other yet.  

I still am oppossed to this temporary marriage idea.  Especially, Uplawal is talking about women who are still married.  What?!

And I don't favour divorce or polygamy.  I am just saying it stil is better than temporary marriage.  

Sweetnecta is giving us the surahs and hadith.  I'll review them.

Salaam.

Sweetnecta:
Even if Muta (temporary marriage) was allowed during Prophet Muhammad's times, but it is important for all Muslims and non-Muslims to know that Muta was allowed during the partial days of Islam, when the Laws of the Glorious Quran were not all yet Revealed, and for special reasons.  But after the Glorious Quran was completely Revealed, one would now have to look at all of the Islamic Laws properly and comprehensively to properly determine whether a certain activity is either permissible or prohibited. . .

Thank you.

Salaam.

are we honestly saying that the problems in society and sex that existed in the past do not still exist today?and the conditions that made Allah in the Quran and the Prophet to apply muta in the past cannot still exist today?

i am really confused with the sunni position.at one hand they say the Prophet allowed it.after that they want us to forget about it and not understand where,how and why the Prophet applied it.and let us ask who stopped.was it the Prophet or Umar?who knows better?

i will follow the lead of the Prophet and no one else.if the Prophet never banned it and the conditions today arise for me to perform muta,i will perform muta.this is an optional issue.not even all shia perform it.even if me and i dislike it,we should be honst enough and admit that eventhough it is halal and it is not haram it can be makhroo (disliked) or mubah (neither recommended nor haram).we dont have to deny anything to suit our tastes.you dont choose what is haram and what is halal.

The Truth: That Umar banned Mut'ah:

http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/mutah/en/chap10.php

The necessity of Mut'ah


It is a matter of fact that Allah (swt) has placed within humans certain innate characteristics including sexual desire. Allah (swt) is not unjust to his Creations He does not place this desire into human beings, and then tell them to quash such feelings (as is the thinking of certain religions) - on the contrary Allah (swt) provides the means of controlling that desire via the institution of marriage - and during the lifetime of Rasulullah (s) both types of Nikah ran in parallel with one another Nikah and Nikah Mut'ah. From an analytical point of view, let us take the example of one Islamic Republic, Pakistan. The average marital age for the Pakistani male is 30 years, while for a female it is around 25 years of age. Pakistani parents assume that their offspring are 'angels' and perpetuate no sins of the flesh until they marry. Sadly, contrary to the conjecture of Pakistani parents, many of their offspring do indulge in immoral practices. In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Masturbation is a widespread problem

There are thousands of video centers supplying pornographic movies.

Pakistani cinemas show porn movies.

There are 'red light areas' in almost every city

Why does the the Islamic Republic of Pakistan possess such evils in its society? Let us give you a simple answer. Just read the following tradition:

Narrated 'Abdullah Ibn Masud: We used to participate in the holy battles led by Allah's Apostle and we had nothing (no wives) with us. So we said, "Shall we get ourselves castrated (for fear of making sin)?" He forbade us (to castrate ourselves) and then allowed us to marry women with a temporary contract (Mut'ah) and recited to us: 'O you who believe! Make not unlawful the good things, which Allah has made lawful for you, but commit no transgression.' (5.87)
Sahih al Bukhari Volume 7 tradition 13a

This tradition makes the following things clear to us, the Sahaba (including the great Sahaba like Abdullah Ibn Masud):

Were unable to control themselves for even a small period of time (i.e.during battles), and were convinced that they would indulge in sin.

had wives at home, but the period away from them (due to war) was long enough for them to indulge in sin.

This being the case, how can Pakistani parents expect their children to live like infallible angels until they attain the age of 30? Do Pakistani Muslim parents believe that their children are at a greater level of Iman than the pious Sahaba like Abdullah Ibn Masud?

Now let us cite another example. Initally, Allah (swt) made it Haram for the Sahaba to go to their wives for all thirty nights during the month of fasting. But what happened? The Sahaba were unable to control their sexual desires, even for only thirty consecutive nights and hence they would climb over the backwalls of their houses and sleep with their wives. Upon that Allah (swt) sent a new revelation in the Quran:


أُحِلَّ لَكُمْ لَيْلَةَ الصِّيَامِ الرَّفَثُ إِلَى نِسَآئِكُمْ هُنَّ لِبَاسٌ لَّكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ لِبَاسٌ لَّهُنَّ عَلِمَ اللّهُ أَنَّكُمْ كُنتُمْ تَخْتانُونَ أَنفُسَكُمْ فَتَابَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَعَفَا عَنكُمْ فَالآنَ بَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَابْتَغُواْ مَا كَتَبَ اللّهُ لَكُمْ


[Shakir 2:187]
It is made lawful to you to go into your wives on the night of the fast; they are an apparel for you and you are an apparel for them; Allah knew that you acted UNFAITFULLY to yourselves, so He has turned to you (mercifully) and removed from you (this burden).

The Sunni Ulema in their commentaries of this verse have recorded that Umar Ibn Khattab and other Sahaba were unable to control their sexual desires even for thirty nights.

"Sahaba refrained from going to their wivies during Ramadhan, but some used to commit mistakes due to which this verse was revealed. It is narrated in one tradition that such mistake was committed by several men that also included Umar Bin Khattab, who after Mahgrib prayers did intercourse with his wife. Then people launched complaints about it before Prophet [s] and then these blessed verses were revealed. According to one tradition. When Umar came to the Prophet [s] and told Him [s] the story, He [s] said: 'O Umar, I had not expected this from you'. Thus, this verse was revealed"
Tafseer Ibn Katheer (Urdu), Volume 1 page 41 (Dehli)

Qadi Thanaullah Pani Patti al-Hanafi records the following in his authority work Tafseer Mazhari:

"Bukhari has narrated from Hadrath Bura [ra] that when the fasts of Ramadhan were made obligatory, people refrained from going to their wives for the whole month of Ramadhan but incidentally some men did intercourse with their wives, therefore Allah [swt] revealed the verse: 'Allah knew that you acted unfaitfully to yourselves'. Imam Ahmed, Ibn Jareer and Ibn Abi Hatim have narrated from Abdullah Ibn Ka'ab who narrated from his father that the condition of the people during Ramadhan was such that if someone sleeps in the evening, then eating, drinking and approaching his wife would get Haram and will remain so till the time of Iftaar next day. One night Umar [ra] got late while chatting with the Holy Prophet [s], when he returned home, he planned to do intercourse with his wife, she objected and argued that she had slept but Umar argued that he wasn't slept, after that he started doing intercourse with her and similar act was committed by Ka'ab bin Malik [ra]. Next morning, Umar [ra] told the incident to Holy Prophet [s]"
Tafseer Mazhari, Volume 1 pages 251-252

When the 'great' Sahaba that Ahle Sunnah venerate were incapable of controlling their sex drives for thirty days, how can Pakistani parents expect that their children to successfully control their sexual desires until the age of 30 or until they get married?

Sex is a reality, whilst it might be taboo in Islamic societies the fact is, it happens and people use all manner of methods to release sexual tension that ultimately leads to individuals falling into the lowest forms of depravity such as prostitution, paedophila and homosexuality. If it is assumed that this problem is only synonymous with the West then allow us to highlight the case in Pakistan:

The largest and most popular group of Pakistani newspapers is the "Jang Group of Newspapers". According to them, in the city of Lahore alone, there are more than 55 thousand sex workers in total, and out of them 19 thousand are children. This news is absolutely shocking. Please read complete news which also telling about HIV and other issues of these sex workers.

One would assume that Islamic schools would be houses of protection, far aloof from sexual abuse; sadly this is not the case. In Pakistan, this is an appalling reality that Dr Amir Liaqat, the minister for religious affairs in Pakistan highlighted in the Senate in 2007. Child sex abuse is rife in Pakistani madrassas. This evil has spread its tentacles into Pakistani society and has even taken the shape of custom in many areas, to the point that it is not even frowned upon by people. Moreover, sex evil is also heigh in all over Arabic Countries, see the link:
http://fjordman..com/2005/03/hidden-in-plain-sight-prostitution-in.html

Though we are avoiding to go in this issue at moment, but to quote one such incident, a police raid unearthed a 'mini-jail' set up at a seminary in the suburban of the Kotaddu city of Pakistan wherein the children were detained, tortured and sodomised.
Read the story from the zipped webpage of daily Dawn

Whilst an Islamic State may indeed be successful in curbing vices, you cannot prevent the influences of Western ideology entering into a Society. Images of sexual behaviour are rife in the West, sex before marriage is a norm. Whilst in the past Muslim countries might have been able to block such behaviour, Western images through the Web and Media means that there is no effective means of preventing Muslims from being exposed to the lures of sexual freedom.The harsh reality is Muslim countries have been unable to control such voyeurism. According to the BBC Website:

45.1% Pakistani net users regularly visit Indecency websites

31.9% Pakistani net users visit Newspapers websites.

19.5% Pakistani net users visit other websites.
www.bbc.co.uk/urdu
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Similarly "Google Trend" shows that Pakistan is No. 1 in the world for searching for word "SEX".
http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex&ctab=1&date=all&geo=all
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"Google Trend" lists the first 10 Countries where users search most for word "SEX". And out of these 10 Countries, 6 are Muslim Countries. This is a point which should make Muslim Parents think more about their children.

Actually, this is no surprise when one sees internet cafes populated by youth observing pornographic material on the internet. Frequent Pakistani Government attempts to curb this problem have all been in vain. In the past people could only access pornography from video centers, people can now access it at the click of a mouse button.

Similar difficulties have also been brought by television cable networks in Pakistan that show pornographic movies and western movies without any form of censorship.

The situation is all the more difficult for pious Muslims living in the West, parents may try their utmost to prevent such activity influencing minds, but how can they hide their children from a Society where all taboos have ended, the move towards a tolerant society includes the acceptance of sex before marriage and homosexual relationships. Pressure on Muslim youth living in places such as University Halls is even greater where there is a pressure to conform, to be one of 'us'. Parents living in Muslim countries would be very naïve if they assumed that these difficulties only refer to the generation of Muslims born in the West, and not to their beloved children, that the send out to study. Such parents send their children for 4-5 years to study in Europe. They mistakenly believe that they are angels who would commit no sin during this period, rather they will remain locked inside their flats, reading the Qur'an and praying Salat. Unfortunately, they are totally wrong. The reality is many of these 'students' who enter these hedonistic European societies may avoid alcohol, and haraam meat, they may avoid going to Discos, many do become victims of lust / sex that opens the door to further sins. Their steps into deviation are as follows:

They set about locating girls.

Unable to locate them in the immediate locality they switch venues to disco's wherein women can be easily located. Their intention is not to listen to music or dance; it is simply to form relationships with women.

Once they are in Discos, they see girls drinking alcohol, and ultimately such Muslim students also start to drink in order to gain their company (i.e. whilst alcohol does not interest them, it becomes a means to an end, and as such committing this sin will aid their ultimate aim of bedding women).

The need to maintain female company also compels them to eat Haram Meat (although the majority of them still avoid eating/touching pig meat)

They satiate their sexual desires by sleeping with European girls.

It is sheer stupidity for Pakistani parents to assume that their children are leading monastic lives studying in European countries, when they are fully aware that the married Sahaba were unable to control their sexual desires for 30 consecutive nights of Ramadhan, or even worse just for few nights when setting out for war.

Such evils experienced by Muslims in Europe might have influenced Muslim Students to perform "Misyar Marriage" i.e. to marry European girls with the intention of deception and leaving them after their studies are complete. Such deception has no basis in the Qur'an or Sunnah.


Can fasting be the answer to eminiating one's sex drive?

Some people still believe that there is no need of encouraging Mutah in society, and for them 'fasting' is enough to remove all the evils of masturbation, Indecency movies, red light areas etc.
Fasting is indeed an effective way of controlling oneself, but look at all of the Islamic societies where fasting is already being encouraged and performed, despite this, these evils are growing more and more. Why?

The reason is you cannot control the "MASSES" through Fasting alone. You need to fulfil their 'natural demand' in a natural way, while fasting is the 'last option' when one is unable to find a woman for marriage. If the logic of "masses" and "last option" is still not clear, then look at the following example of fasting by the Sahaba.


"The fasting Sahaba" were unable to control themselves during month of Ramadhan

The Sahaba, who were already married, had to stay away from their wives for 30 nights during the month of Ramadhan. But their fasting was unable to help them control their sexual desires for those 30 nights and they committed sexual sins. And upon that Allah (swt) had to reveal this verse:

[Shakir 2:187]
It is made lawful to you to go into your wives on the night of the fast; they are an apparel for you and you are an apparel for them; Allah knew that you acted UNFAITFULLY to yourselves, so He has turned to you (mercifully) and removed from you (this burden).

Those Sahaba were already married, but natural desires were so strong that they were unable to keep a check on their testosterone levels for 30 nights (despite their fasting). When the Sahaba encounted such sexual frustration what can we expect of present day Muslim youth who remain unmarried until the age of 30 in a society surrounded engulfed with impudent activities and vice, are they really going to act like angels for such long period of time?

Alhamdolillah the message of Allah (swt) is clear to us:

You cannot control the "Masses" through fasting only.

The first option is to fulfil this natural demand in a natural way i.e. by marrying either permanently or temporarily (based on a respective situation).

Permanent marriage (i.e. Nikah) is preferred over all other options.

If the conditions for permanent marriage are unsuitable, then the second option is temporary Marriage (i.e. Muttah), as it was personally recommended by Rasul Allah (saw) himself during battles and time of Hajj [as the Sunni tradition recorded in Sahih Muslim narrated by Sabra proves].
Simple conclusion is Rasul Allah (saw) recommended/ordered to perform Muttah in all cases when one is away from his permanent wife and is in danger of indulging in sin.

Fasting is a last option to curtail this problem i.e. when one is in a condition wherein he is unable to find any suitable woman either for Nikah or Mutah, even then he is not allowed to commit evils, but he has to fast and still protect himself from such evils].

Islam is applicable to all situations until the day of judgement. In earlier centuries traders had to visit other countries. One trip could take months even years. Do you believe they would act like angels for that whole period in terms of controlling their sexual desires? For present day Muslim students who visit Europe for 4-5 years for studying, Mutah marriage is highly recommended for them (and if they fear indulging in sin, it becomes obligatory on them to enter into a permanent or temporary Nikah. Muslims have only two options either fornicate or seek out the means of lawful intercourse via the contracting permanent or temporary marriage. The Sahaba were unable to control their sexual desires through fasting or whilst away for brief periods which is Rasulullah (s) ordered that they contract Mut'ah, would Allah (swt) not provide for the same option for later generations of Muslims, who often spend months and even years away from home (due to work and study commitments)? Would Allah (swt) really leave such people to their own devices, or would he provide the relevant safety mechanism? Sexual desire exists in humans, and in the same way Allah (swt) assisted the frustrated Sahaba to relieve themselves by utilising Mut'ah, Allah (swt) has also given Muslims that option today.

When the present day Saudi Ulama (like Bin-Baz) were presented with problems of Muslims students in West, they innovated a new type of thing in Islam, and marketed it with the name "Misyar Marriage" (i.e. marrying a girl with intention of deceiving by divorcing her later on).

The facts are clear to us:

No one could deny that it was Rasul Allah (saw) himself who RECOMMENDED (in fact ORDERED) Mutah Marriage in order to save oneself from sin.

The argument of "Fasting" alone, cannot counter the well established recommendation/orders of Rasul Allah (saw) in relation to Mutah Marriage.

Allah (swt) and Rasulullah (s) never told the Muslims to control their sex drive via monasticism, neither did He (swt) give an order that they relieve themselves by acts such as masturbation or sex with melons - these innovations entered the religion later by the Ahl'ul Sunnah Ulema as methods of preventing Zina when these Ulema prescribed such curious methods to prevent Zinah don't you think Allah (swt) who is the best of Planners would have also prescribed the appropriate method? Alhamdolillah He (swt) did, He provided the option of temporary marriage to his adherents, a marriage that according to Ibn Abbas can be reinstated in emergency scenarios. An emergency scenario is clearly open to interpretation, and is very personal thing if a person needs a means of controlling his sexual desire then that emergency scenario has triggered and s/he can utilise Mut'ah. On a wider level if emergency scenario does not arise in the West where the pressure to commit Zinah is so great that safe sex is taught as part of a Curriculum in High Schools then when will it arise?

We hereby cite a few examples, about Mut'ah being a basic necessity for the human nature, and where this emergency situation clearly arises.

In History of Tabari, we learn that when Umar sought to justify his prohibition of Mutah saying "The Messenger of God permitted it at the time of necessary. Then people regained their life of comfort" ( History of al-Tabari, English version, Volume 14, pp 139 & 140) . This reasoning carries no basis since we learn that the Sahaba would practice it whilst away on journeys etc. Traveling was not just restricted to the lifetime of the Holy Prophet (s). Man still travels today’s, to even greater lengths, periods etc. If Rasulullah (s) permitted the Sahaba to partake in Mutah while on journeys, hence the need arose, the same is the case today. Whenever man sets foot on the earth the need to travel always emerges. Sometimes traveling can involve man going thousands of miles away from home, sometimes for moths, even years. Do one’s sexual desires just evaporate when an individual is traveling? Sexual desire isn’t like some light switch that turns off when a man leaves his wife to set off on his travels, and turns back home when he gets back! Sexual desire is something that remains permanently with a human, when it accompanies him at all times then how can he curtail such sexual feelings? When someone is traveling and accessing his wife is impossible, and he is incapable of summing her to join him, then what will a young red blooded male do? Miles away from home, feeling sexually aroused his situation is not one wherein he can get permanently married, so what is he to do? He will feel the only way that he can relieve himself is by amalgamating himself into the society around him. Islam does not permit a person to sexually relieve himself through masturbation nor is he permitted to adopt the ways of the kufr and indulge himself in fornication, it offers him a legitimate mechanism with which to relieve himself and that is temporary marriage. That is exactly why Maula Ali (as) said: if it were not Umar forbidding it, no one would commit (the sin) of fornication except the wretched (Shaqi; an utmost wrongdoer).” (Tafseer Dur al-Manthur, Volume 2 page 486)

It is not just traveling, that might necessitate Mutah, there are many in society who just does not have the financial ability / standing to get permanent married, yet they still have sexual desires, again Mutah is there to ensure that they practice sex within the boundaries set by Allah (swt).

In some countries the law says a non-naturalised citizen cannot marry a woman and take her back to his country. In this circumstance if Mut'ah is performed, after the set period both the man and the woman are free, from each other. If marriage is commenced then the couple are tied with other for the rest of their lives, or they will get tangled in achieving a divorce.

Islam is a religion that is suited for all nations and ages. Mut'ah is a good example of that. It is only the Deen of Islam that caters for sexual desire by permitting a legitimate method of control. For others societies the only mechanism that they see as the solution to relieving sexual feelings is through the practice of fornication. In the western world adultery and fornication are common and openly performed. Mut'ah is a way of protecting a person from committing these serious sins and vices.

One of the benefits of Mut'ah is that a couple who do Mut'ah get to understand each other better over that period of time. If all goes well, when the period of Mut'ah is over they may engage in a permanent marriage. This could also be in a reverse case, if all does not go to plan then they may go their own ways after the limit of Mut'ah. Rather then getting married and then having a divorce Mut'ah is a great way of overcoming this undesirable act (divorce).

Mut'ah is particularly advatageous to reverts. For male reverts to Islam in relationships with non-Muslims prior to reverting, practicing Mu'ta is the only option they have to continue their marriage in a lawful manner. Rather than being forced to walk out of the family unit, performing Mutah provides the opportunity for a new revert to propagate / show his beliefs to his spouse on a practical basis. It is far more beneficial than walking out of a relationship, and then utilizing phone conversation about child maintenance to perform dawah over the phone. Spouses have the opportunity to practically see how Islam has changed their husband, and this is much more likely to change them that brief conversations! From this context we can understand why Ibn Abbas (ra) described Mutah as a blessing, it certainly is for reverts keen to continue conjugal relations, and influence their partners. For reverts married to a non-Muslim -- it leaves open the door for the non-Muslim spouse to more fully explore Islam without having to be forced to choose to revert under difficult and 'forced' conditions of Nikkah.

http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/mutah/en/chap3.php

@Isale gan &Sweetnecta,whats THANK YOU,are you now saying what Allah made permissible should not be encouraged and its only useful for some period of time and not for all ages?pls save us all these unnecessary trying to debase topic,what is halal should not be discouraged at all or shy about,whatever Allah made halal should be halal forever,ok,and Umar dos not have any right to make haram what Allah made Halal for his slaves,Hes an innovator period,TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

Infact am begining to get tired of the sunnis that claimed they are following the prophet where as they are following the innovations from the sahabas,its a shame to prefare what umar and others did over Allah and the messengers acts and deeds,they are not worthy to be called sunni but(UMAREES)OR best still,(SAHABIST)

uplawal:

@Isale gan &Sweetnecta,whats THANK YOU,are you now saying what Allah made permissible should not be encouraged and its only useful for some period of time and not for all ages?pls save us all these unnecessary trying to debase topic,what is halal should not be discouraged at all or shy about,whatever Allah made halal should be halal forever,ok,and Umar dos not have any right to make haram what Allah made Halal for his slaves,Hes an innovator period,TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

uplawal:

Infact am begining to get tired of the sunnis that claimed they are following the prophet where as they are following the innovations from the sahabas,its a shame to prefare what umar and others did over Allah and the messengers acts and deeds,they are not worthy to be called sunni but(UMAREES)OR best still,(SAHABIST)

UPlawal

You are drifting away , be patient sister as you obviously dont understand what you have just said "calling Caliph Umar RA an innovator" .

You need to learn what Bidáh actually means and its understanding. There is no verse in the quran expressly permitting mutah as far as i know. Mutah was permitted by the prophet and was also reported to have been banned. If some shias wish to still do it albeit with conditions then that is their business but what i am against is for you to accuse the caliphs of making haram halal and hallal haram. The consequence of what you have said is that Umar and these sahabas are kafirs (Naudhubillah). That is the meaning of your posts if you dont know.

You need to understand sunni philosophy before you start to embrace the shia philosophy. Even if you want to become shia you should not start by insulting companions of the Prophet PBUH without basis except what you have read here on NL.

And God knows best

Lagosboy,its you thats drifting away not me,you should have kukuma said am on the wrong path for all i care,its only Allah that knows who is on the right path.i dnt tell you if am already a shia or neither am i supporting shia,its only the history av commented on and nothing would change history ok,have you not forgotten its this same Sunni's that are quick to point to whatever or whoever that is an innovator or innovation,now youre here telling me what they changed in the religion in history is not consider bidah right,but only them Sufi style,tareekah,tijaniya and co are the innovations since they bring new theory to the system,pls come of it,any Bidah is Bidah.

You jugdging me now cos i pointed out the actrocities they committed after the demise of the prophet.is that not enough for them to be called innovators and enemies of the prophet,and mind you its not all of them i considered innovators ande bad,but the ones that claimed they love the prophet,but did otherwise after he was no more,others that remained the same are ok and good too,so you should think about that.

Also,wanna ask you,how did you think its only from nairaland av gathered information about the past,and if it so,why should that be your problem,or is it not history?Also,i want you to point out the fact that makes something halal then makes it haram again with Quran verse,also as regards to Muta Nikah,if the prophet allowed it what right does YOUR UMAR has to make it haram?

@Lagosboy,cry for yourself for following some evil SAHABAS over what Allah made permissible,and followed by the prophet

@Lagosboy,i dnt say i said Umar made Haram Halal,its you Lagosboy that says so,not me Uplawal,i only said Umar changed the morning Adhan and made Muta thats HALAL HARAM,and i dnt say all Sahabas did the same thing,but you just lied on me now.

@sweetnecta, i can give you more hadith that supported divorce that happened apart from adultery,and Divorced is never hated by Allah since he permitted it anyway,eventhough he does like the sanctity of marriage.And no throne is gonna shake cos of any divorce

uplawal:

@Lagosboy,cry for yourself for following some evil SAHABAS over what Allah made permissible,and followed by the prophet

uplawal:

@Lagosboy,i dnt say i said Umar made Haram Halal,its you Lagosboy that says so,not me Uplawal,i only said Umar changed the morning Adhan and made Muta thats HALAL HARAM,and i dnt say all Sahabas did the same thing,but you just lied on me now.

My dear sister why should i lie against you ? The boldened is what i am referring to, anyone that legislates haram halal and vice versa is comminting an act of kufr.

Anyway if you are going to react this way then i better rest my case. I wish you Allahs blessings , guidance and mercies. May Allah make you recognise the truth as truth and falshood as falsehood, may He increase you in knowledge and understanding, forgive you your sins and mine as well, ultimately guide you to jannah.

I Rest my case

uplawal:

@sweetnecta, .And no throne is gonna shake cos of any divorce

on a serious note,we have tried to explained a thousand and one times that mutah is mubah (nor recommended but halal) and can be makrooh (disliked but halal) but it is not haram because there are cases where it can be used properly.when also used correctly,it can fight against shameful acts.our Imams have also discouraged those who are married to do mutah.that does not mean that mutah is haram.it is just like in the Quran Allah allows up to 4 wives but with a condition:if you cannot do justice with 4 then only marry one.that does not mean polygamy is altogether haram."sweetnecta" also went wild in copy/paste and ended up spaming the thread.i will insist again that there is no where that Allah or the Prophet made mutah haram.for something to be mubah or makrooh is different from it being haram.there is enough evidence from sunni sources that it was Umar that banned it.also,there are shia hadith that are misused and misinterpreted to say that our Imams say muta is haram.our Imams cannot and did not make it haram.(see post #264).the Quran in Surat an-Nisa verse 24 have made it halal.so it remains like that.Allah does not make something halal today and make it haram tomorrow.

[size=14pt]A SPECIAL QUESTION FOR "LAGOSBOY": [/size]

YOU ARE DISPLEASED BY SISTER UPLAWAL SAYING THAT UMAR HAVE MADE HALAL HARAM.YOU ARE DISPLEASED BECAUSE THAT WILL SHED KUFR ON UMAR'S PART ACCORDING TO YOU.DONT YOU THINK IT IS ALSO INSULTING THAT AFTER READING IN SURAT AN-NISA VERSE 24 THAT ALLAH MADE MUTA HALAL,NOW YOU ARE TELLING US IT IS HARAM?ARE YOU SAYING ALLAH IS CHANING HIS LAWS?WE KNOW FROM SURAT AL-FATH THAT ALLAH DOES NOT CHANGE HIS WORDS "LA MUBADDILA LI KALIMATILLAH"!!!WILL YOU STILL INSIST THAT ALLAH AND THE PROPHET MADE IT HARAM?OR WILL YOU SEE THE LIGHT AND ACCEPT THAT UMAR BANNED IT?

THEREFORE ARE YOU NOT ACCUSAING ALLAH OF KUFR (AUOZUBILLAH)!!!IS IT NOT MORE LOGICAL TO SAY UMAR CHANGED THE LAW THAN TO SAY ALLAH DID IF YOU ARE TRULY MUSLIM?

@Lagosboy,same to you too,desist from praying,may Allah this and that,when you actually insinuating the person does not know jack,but your opinions are the best,since you know,may Allah forgive me if am wrong and others.

Also do you believe in the hadith kudsi(quds),that says the prophet is the light in Adam that Allah told shaitan to bow for?

Also,do you believe in the hadith that also says the Prophet is the reason why Allah created heaven and earth?

and many more,would be back

@Lagos shia,hes so angry that i pointed that out,imagine him to be angry at what Allah made halal

some sunni's and thier hero worship sha

uplawal:

@Lagosboy,same to you too,desist from praying,may Allah this and that,when you actually insinuating the person does not know jack,but your opinions are the best,since you know,may Allah forgive me if am wrong and others.

Also do you believe in the hadith kudsi(quds),that says the prophet is the light in Adam that Allah told shaitan to bow for?

Also,do you believe in the hadith that also says the Prophet is the reason why Allah created heaven and earth?

and many more,would be back

ALL HAIL THE FEMALE CONQUEROR OF NAIRALAND!!!

WALLAHI WHEN WE HAVE IN ISLAM WOMEN LIKE FATIMA,KHADIJAH,AND ZAINAB BINT ALI WHO FACED THE TYRANT YAZEED SINGLE-HANDEDLY CHALLENGING HIM AND EXPOSING HIM IN HIS COURT,IT IS ONLY NATURAL THAT OUR MUSLIM SISTERS EMULATE THOSE LIGHTS OF ISLAM AND THEMSELVES BECOME LIGHTS TO BRIGHTEN THE WORLD WHERE THE MEN HAVE FAILED TO DO.

MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU SISTER "UPLAWAL"!!!

uplawal:

@Lagos shia,hes so angry that i pointed that out,imagine him to be angry at what Allah made halal

some sunni's and thier hero worship sha

Subhanallah!!!
well said sister!!!

@Lagosshia,amin,am still learning but i dnt like it when some muslims feel some people are not on the right part,except for the ones that dnt contradicts the Quran,ways of the prophet and his offsprings

uplawal:

@Lagosshia,amin,am still learning but i dnt like it when some muslims feel some people are not on the right part,except for the ones that dnt contradicts the Quran,ways of the prophet and his offsprings

sister,as Islam teaches us and we shia follow in that footstep,the Quran says "there is no compulsion in belief".

those who follow the Quran,the Prophet (sunnah) and the Progeny (guardians of the religion),indeed that is the best to do and abide by.

for those who dont,it is our wish and prayer that Allah will guide them.we should not condemn them or insult them.regardless the fact that we shove shoulders when debating and that is for the sake of the truth to be revealed.

we only seek innocence from the criminals and the stubborn ones who have gone astray.and even in that it is only Allah that will judge them and pay them back justly.

we can only say the truth and it is left for people to follow or reject.that is the spirit of the Quran. if we muslims understand that this Quran is the truth and best for us to follow,and yet still Allah has not compelled us to believe and it is our choice,there would hardly be a non-muslim on earth.

may Allah help us all!!!

amin my brother

@Uplawal: « #268 on: Yesterday at 10:36:30 AM »
[Quote]are we honestly saying that the problems in society and sex that existed in the past do not still exist today?and the conditions that made Allah in the Quran and the Prophet to apply muta in the past cannot still exist today?

i am really confused with the sunni position.at one hand they say the Prophet allowed it.after that they want us to forget about it and not understand where,how and why the Prophet applied it.and let us ask who stopped.was it the Prophet or Umar?who knows better?

i will follow the lead of the Prophet and no one else.if the Prophet never banned it and the conditions today arise for me to perform muta,i will perform muta.this is an optional issue.not even all shia perform it.even if me and i dislike it,we should be honst enough and admit that eventhough it is halal and it is not haram it can be makhroo (disliked) or mubah (neither recommended nor haram).we dont have to deny anything to suit our tastes.you dont choose what is haram and what is halal.

The Truth: That Umar banned Mut'ah:

http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/mutah/en/chap10.php

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@Isale gan &Sweetnecta,whats THANK YOU,are you now saying what Allah made permissible should not be encouraged and its only useful for some period of time and not for all ages?pls save us all these unnecessary trying to debase topic,what is halal should not be discouraged at all or shy about,whatever Allah made halal should be halal forever,ok,and Umar dos not have any right to make haram what Allah made Halal for his slaves,Hes an innovator period,TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
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Infact am begining to get tired of the sunnis that claimed they are following the prophet where as they are following the innovations from the sahabas,its a shame to prefare what umar and others did over Allah and the messengers acts and deeds,they are not worthy to be called sunni but(UMAREES)OR best still,(SAHABIST)
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@Isale gan &Sweetnecta,whats THANK YOU,are you now saying what Allah made permissible should not be encouraged and its only useful for some period of time and not for all ages?pls save us all these unnecessary trying to debase topic,what is halal should not be discouraged at all or shy about,whatever Allah made halal should be halal forever,ok,and Umar dos not have any right to make haram what Allah made Halal for his slaves,Hes an innovator period,TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

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Infact am begining to get tired of the sunnis that claimed they are following the prophet where as they are following the innovations from the sahabas,its a shame to prefare what umar and others did over Allah and the messengers acts and deeds,they are not worthy to be called sunni but(UMAREES)OR best still,(SAHABIST)

UPlawal Cry

You are drifting away , be patient sister as you obviously dont understand what you have just said "calling Caliph Umar RA an innovator" .

You need to learn what Bidáh actually means and its understanding. There is no verse in the quran expressly permitting mutah as far as i know. Mutah was permitted by the prophet and was also reported to have been banned. If some shias wish to still do it albeit with conditions then that is their business but what i am against is for you to accuse the caliphs of making haram halal and hallal haram. The consequence of what you have said is that Umar and these sahabas are kafirs (Naudhubillah). That is the meaning of your posts if you dont know.

You need to understand sunni philosophy before you start to embrace the shia philosophy. Even if you want to become shia you should not start by insulting companions of the Prophet PBUH without basis except what you have read here on NL.

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Lagosboy,its you thats drifting away not me,you should have kukuma said am on the wrong path for all i care,its only Allah that knows who is on the right path.i dnt tell you if am already a shia or neither am i supporting shia,its only the history av commented on and nothing would change history ok,have you not forgotten its this same Sunni's that are quick to point to whatever or whoever that is an innovator or innovation,now youre here telling me what they changed in the religion in history is not consider bidah right,but only them Sufi style,tareekah,tijaniya and co are the innovations since they bring new theory to the system,pls come of it,any Bidah is Bidah.

You jugdging me now cos i pointed out the actrocities they committed after the demise of the prophet.is that not enough for them to be called innovators and enemies of the prophet,and mind you its not all of them i considered innovators ande bad,but the ones that claimed they love the prophet,but did otherwise after he was no more,others that remained the same are ok and good too,so you should think about that.

Also,wanna ask you,how did you think its only from nairaland av gathered information about the past,and if it so,why should that be your problem,or is it not history?Also,i want you to point out the fact that makes something halal then makes it haram again with Quran verse,also as regards to Muta Nikah,if the prophet allowed it what right does YOUR UMAR has to make it haram?
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@Lagosboy,cry for yourself Cry Cry Cry Embarrassed for following some evil SAHABAS over what Allah made permissible,and followed by the prophet
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@Lagosboy,i dnt say i said Umar made Haram Halal,its you Lagosboy that says so,not me Uplawal,i only said Umar changed the morning Adhan and made Muta thats HALAL HARAM,and i dnt say all Sahabas did the same thing,but you just lied on me now.
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@sweetnecta, i can give you more hadith that supported divorce that happened apart from adultery,and Divorced is never hated by Allah since he permitted it anyway,eventhough he does like the sanctity of marriage.And no throne is gonna shake cos of any divorce[/Quote]You are a woman, my sister. Can you put yourself in the position of Mutah? Does it make sense that you continue to say that what is immoral is permissible by Islam that came to elevate the condition of humanity? If Mutah is permissible why have marriage that is not Mutah? Why try hard to make marriage work? Why divorcing 3 times is final until the woman marries another man and they willingly divorce before the former husband can even be part of possible husband? Why not turn the whole of Islamic marriage to one big sexual orgy of the 1970s and the early 19s0s before the HIV/AIDS which closed up bath houses in NYC and London to name a few?

Uplawal, kilo nso lenu? I am shocked that you are allowing yourself to be immersed into this type of evil, yet you were a virgin before Marriage, while you find Islam better than Christianity, why would you expect that Allah will permit legal marriage with the stigma of a time to divorce put in it? This is so sad. I wonder if any man will put his beloved sister up for Mutah? What if she is a virgin?

Finally, which of us is equal to any of the Kalifah of Islam? Anyone equal to say Umar Khattab who was the one Allah supported with the verses of 2 rakah at Maqam Ibrahim (AS), the covering up of women with Jalab, the issue of ransoming or not of captives of war, and many others. I do not worship or call on Muhammad (AS) and definitely no sahabah (RA) for that matter. But I think it is sad that we insult our forebears who suffered so that Islam can get to us, today.

uplawal:

@Lagos shia,hes so angry that i pointed that out,imagine him to be angry at what Allah made halal

some sunni's and thier hero worship sha

haba uplawal, don't u know u that we have do'if hadith and sahih. I don cry tire today, haaa haa haaa, are u sure you are okay uplawal ? Sorry for asking ma, you even challenged why the prophet name should be in adhan, lol, very soon if care is not taken hmmm, nawa o, wonder shall never end, i no fit argue again