blacksta:

First it was

food for all by year 2000

Declare state of emergency on the electricity

Electricity by Dec 2010

Vision 202020.

The  Latest is Electricity by 2014.

When are the  MUMU Nigerians going to wake up  - You people like jingles till you die -

Please help add more promised jingles - i cant remember them all

Beaf:

So, what will your bitterness and negativity solve, What exactly are you complaining about?
Your words above cut across several govts and doesn't make the least sense.

This is another foolish thread about who can whine loudest, not what we can do about our situation. Shame on you.

alj harem:

how is it a foolish tread
mumu

Beaf:

So, what will your bitterness and negativity solve, What exactly are you complaining about?
Your words above cut across several govts and doesn't make the least sense.

This is another foolish thread about who can whine loudest, not what we can do about our situation. Shame on you.

Beaf:

Our local cow is here again!

londoner:

Whether Nigerian politics is full of jingles or not, quite alot of people from different parts of Nigeria are attesting to a definate improvement in electricity supply in their area.

@ Blacksta, arent you Ghanaian? Why be so worried about what the Nigerian government is saying?

netotse:

declaration of intent:

i have spent the whole day listening to retards that prolly dont know how to spell the word megawatt mouthing off about the power sector on radio today so i'm not in the mood to bear with anybody's crap.

IF you dont understand what goes on in the power sector, it would be best you left your opinions as just that opinions and not try to pass them off as facts because i'm not in a very forgiving mood.

@kobojunkie
can you please show me where jonathan promised 6000MW? he apologized for PHCN's failure to meet the target, yes but that's different from him promising said 6000MW isn't it?

P.S. The fact that yar adua promised it and they were on the same ticket isn't tenable.

londoner:

Whether Nigerian politics is full of jingles or not, quite alot of people from different parts of Nigeria are attesting to a definate improvement in electricity supply in their area.

@ Blacksta, arent you Ghanaian? Why be so worried about what the Nigerian government is saying?

Kobojunkie:

Technically, the man is not here making any promises. He is simply saying what every Nigerian says about most everything, [size=13pt]IF[/size].

courage89:

Agreed.

And if their plan works, it is possible that Nigeria can generate 20,000 MW within 4 years. The man is not saying we Nigerians have to pay for this. What they're going to do is create conducive environment for PPP to thrive, so that investors both foreign and local can provide the resources (financial, human) needed to achieve the so called power generation and distribution objectives.

blacksta:

The only way Mumu Nigerians will ever get electricity if they come out of their perpetual accommodation in suffering and smiling and rise up and murder all these wicked leaders until then darkness remains -it is impossible to go from 3000 mw to 20000 MW in just under four years in Nigeria - who is going to pay for it - even if you allow private companies - legislation and planning alone can last the entire 4 years - Abi Jonathan thinks power plant is like a mud house that you can build in a day.

asha 80:

guy no worry we are the happiest guys on earth.e go better    

blacksta:

The only way Mumu Nigerians will ever get electricity if they come out of their perpetual accommodation in suffering and smiling and rise up and murder all these wicked leaders until then darkness remains -it is impossible to go from 3000 mw to 20000 MW in just under four years in Nigeria - who is going to pay for it - even if you allow private companies - legislation and planning alone can last the entire 4 years - Abi Jonathan thinks power plant is like a mud house that you can build in a day.

netotse:

e sure me die say you never read the roadmap. . .when you read it we can discuss maturely, without your having to throw conjectures left right and centre. Heck the roadmap even lists how govt expects to achieve said 20,000MW, or are you saying you've read the roadmap and discovered that the plan isn't viable?

@all
jonathan's plan is heavily dependent on foreign investment on the power sector which in turn is heavily dependent on the reforms being successful.

by the way,

there's no legislation needed for the reforms(but then again, if y'all read the roadmap you'll know this)

we have 4000MW now, the NIPP is to provide circa 5000 out of the 20,000MW so what we need in four years is around 9000MW, it takes around 30months to complete a steam station(in sane times) i dont know how long you need for the EIA sha. Who's to say if 10 companies are willing to commit the necessary funds to construct a 1100MW station each it cant happen? when we say it's impossible, what are we basing that claim on? are we speaking from fact or we're speaking emotionally?

@kobojunkie
under jonathan, PHCN was able to best the record of highest actual power generation, it was 35XXMW set during OBJs time, but earlier this year they were able to achieve 37XXMW, what did he do differently? he made the gas available. Utorogu gas plant has been shut down for upgrading so it's expected that gas availabilty would be improved when it comes back on, but of course, if you had read the roadmap you'd know this.

It isn't magic, the roadmap is available, heck there's even a 56page summary for people that'd the whole document too large to read. It really doesn't speak well of individuals when they dont read the roadmap and proceed to mouth off at any given opportunity.

case in point: http://digitalizednigeria.com/directory/2010/11/09/tuc-seeks-core-investor-option-for-phcn/
in the link above the president of the TUC is quoted(on the 9th november) as saying that govt should not privatize the companies, that what government should do is get core investors and sell 51% of the companies, not a bad idea right?

but that's what exactly the government is planning to do , it's in the roadmap for crissakes(which came out august 28th or something), it means the nuisance didn't read the roadmap before he came to play to the gallery, and of course some mumu nigerians will be nodding their head and remarking on how the TUC president hit the nail on the head but govt never seems to listen to good suggestions.

i blame the government though, their PR is terrible, they're letting all sorts of quacks parade themselves as experts and feed the people all sorts of lies.

imagine the president of the 2nd most important workers union in nigeria being recorded making a fool out of himself in the media and they didn't take him up on it. . .smh. Make them just set me on all these quacks first. . .shior!

asha 80:


guy you seem to be an expert on power.i want to ask what is wrong with using coal to generate power?

Kobojunkie:


. . . . and quite a lot others have attested to the serious decrease in power supply to their areas during the same period. How do we measure improvement? According to reports, power generation has been hovering around 3000MW most of this year (not much of a difference from last year’s report that put production at about 2900MW back in November 2009). So how can there exist a significant improvement as some people continue to claim when there has not been much of a change in this area -- remember, Jonathan has not actually started implementation of his power plans. I mean he is here promising us improvement IF implemented by April. Na abracadabra?

How much more MWs of energy are we being promised this time around, I mean by next year? How much electricity are we considering ENOUGH for the april delivery?