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Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Superego: 3:11am On Dec 07, 2010
http://www.newsrescue.com/2010/12/argentina-uruguay-and-brazil-recognize-palestine-as-independent-state-based-on-1967-borders/

AFP- BUENOS AIRES — Argentina and Uruguay said Monday they were joining Brazil in recognizing an independent Palestinian state, earning praise from Palestinian officials but an immediate sharp rebuke from Israel.

Israel called the announcement by Buenos Aires “regrettable” and said it went against an Israeli-Palestinian agreement that such a state should only be recognized with Israeli approval.



The comments echoed criticism Israel made after Brazil started the South American movement on Friday by saying it recognized a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders, before the Six Day War in which Israel seized Gaza and the West Bank.

But Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas, on a visit to Turkey, expressed his “pride” over the decision by Buenos Aires, according to an official statement.

His foreign minister, Riad al-Malki, told AFP the Palestinians had expected that Paraguay and other Latin American countries will make “similar decisions.”

“The Argentine government recognizes Palestine as a free and independent state within the borders defined in 1967,” Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman said, reading a letter sent by President Cristina Kirchner to Abbas.

Timerman said the move reflected a general consensus among members of Mercosur, the South American trade bloc.

Uruguay announced soon afterward it will recognize a Palestinian state next year.

“Uruguay will surely follow the same path as Argentina in 2011,” deputy foreign minister Roberto Conde told AFP. “We are working toward opening a diplomatic representation in Palestine, most likely in Ramallah.”

Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay all make up Mercosur. Venezuela’s membership is pending.

The decision to recognize a Palestinian state stems from a “deep desire to see a definitive advance in the negotiation process leading to the establishment of a just and durable peace in the Middle East,” Timerman said.

But Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor scolded: “This regrettable decision will not help at all to change the situation between Israel and the Palestinians.”

Israel has already reacted with “sadness and disappointment” to Brazil’s declaration on the issue, saying it breached a 1995 agreement it had with the Palestinian Authority that any Palestinian state should only come about through mutual negotiations.

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US lawmakers have also condemned Brazil’s decision as “severely misguided” and “regrettable.”

Western countries have agreed that any definition of a Palestinian state required Israeli approval. The United States has consistently protected Israel’s position at the UN Security Council.

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who had sought a mediator role in the Israeli-Palestinian situation, made his announcement shortly before he is scheduled to stand down on January 1 next year.

His protegee and former cabinet chief, Dilma Rousseff, has been elected to take over the reins of power. She has pledged to pursue his policies.

Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay made their announcements as peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians teeter on the brink of collapse following the end of the temporary ban on Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Monday he did “not see any reason” to extend the settlement freeze.

Abbas has said the Palestinian side will not return to negotiations while Israel continues to build on land the Palestinians want for their state.

He has repeatedly said he would explore other options if the peace talks collapse — including asking for UN recognition of a Palestinian state based on the 1967 borders.

Some 104 countries now recognize a Palestinian state, according to the Palestinian diplomatic mission at the United Nations.

Other Latin American nations that have already taken the step are Costa Rica, Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

In all, 150 countries have some form of diplomatic relations with the Palestinians, said the mission, which has observer status at the United Nations.

US President Barack Obama has said he hoped the Palestinian mission would become a full UN member in 2011, alongside other nations.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Brownteeth(m): 3:39am On Dec 07, 2010
O boy see as Israel carry swallow Palestinian land.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by olafolarin(m): 4:00am On Dec 07, 2010
Greatest injustice in the history of He World.
It is really unfortunate and the U.S Supports Isreal's Move.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by DapoBear(m): 5:07am On Dec 07, 2010
Good. I'm glad for the Palestinians. Israel is an evil, oppressive colonialist nation.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Pharoh: 6:01am On Dec 07, 2010
^^

How? You should carefully look back to the history of this place especially the events before 1967.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by DapoBear(m): 6:08am On Dec 07, 2010
I don't see how that war affects things. Of course Arabs would come together to dislodge Israel.

You do realize that initially they also considered Uganda as a place for their Jewish homeland? I would hope that Africans would show solidarity if they'd succeeded in colonizing Uganda, too.

I've never understood how Germany genocides the Jews, but the Palestinians end up losing land. Why didn't they just punish Germany by carving out a slice of their territory for a Jewish homeland?
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by udezue(m): 6:47am On Dec 07, 2010
Well they deserve their own state.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by MShittu: 9:41am On Dec 07, 2010
Israel is a very cruel state.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by tolu001: 10:36am On Dec 07, 2010
Imagine Man injustices against Man. You are illegally occupying another man's land falsely claiming it's yours, you kill and oppress them on a daily basis and the so-called superpowers sees nothing wrong in that hmm? what a wicked world
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by udezue(m): 12:52pm On Dec 07, 2010
@Tolu, the samething Nigerians and the govt are doing to Biafra so practice what u preach.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by 13volts(m): 1:32pm On Dec 07, 2010
the greatest mistake hilter made was his failure in gasing them up.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by bkbabe97y(m): 3:18pm On Dec 07, 2010
udezue:

@Tolu, the samething Nigerians and the govt are doing to Biafra so practice what u preach.

Does this include Biafra's desire to steal Ijaw land and all its oil or its attempt to make Western Nigeria part of Biafran Empire by invading it in 1967?
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by bkbabe97y(m): 3:28pm On Dec 07, 2010
DapoBear:

I don't see how that war affects things. Of course Arabs would come together to dislodge Israel.

You do realize that initially they also considered Uganda as a place for their Jewish homeland? I would hope that Africans would show solidarity if they'd succeeded in colonizing Uganda, too.

I've never understood how Germany genocides the Jews, but the Palestinians end up losing land. Why didn't they just punish Germany by carving out a slice of their territory for a Jewish homeland?

Well, it all goes back to the discovery of oil. The U.S, UK and their allies need a watchdog in the Middle East thus we got us Big Bad Isreal!

If they really need a "Homeland" why they aint give em Rhode Island or Wisconsin?!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXFpJrlgd7A&feature=related
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by DapoBear(m): 4:05pm On Dec 07, 2010
^-- Indeed. But American territory is not an option, really. We'd never give up our land.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by udezue(m): 4:32pm On Dec 07, 2010
bk.babe97y:

Does this include Biafra's desire to steal Ijaw land and all its oil or its attempt to make Western Nigeria part of Biafran Empire by invading it in 1967?

4king moro.n Eastern Ijo ethnic group was part of Biafra. Frank Opugo an Ijaw gave us the name Biafra. An Efik-IBIBIO, Effiong took over leadership of Biafra from an Igbo Ojukwu during the end of the war.

I won't even address ur accusation that Biafra tried to annex Western Nigeria coz its so moronic.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by bkbabe97y(m): 4:41pm On Dec 07, 2010
udezue:

4king moro.n Eastern Ijo ethnic group was part of Biafra. Frank Opugo an Ijaw gave us the name Biafra. An Efik-IBIBIO, Effiong took over leadership of Biafra from an Igbo Ojukwu during the end of the war.

I won't even address your accusation that Biafra tried to annex Western Nigeria coz its so moronic.

Yeah wuteva! Point is NOBODY wants to play Indian to the Ibo's Chief! Yall wanted to lord it all ova the rest, it aint work! Now, lay back and look to a promising future where everyone is equal instead of believing everything your parents told you.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by PhysicsQED(m): 5:32pm On Dec 07, 2010
That 2000 map is not accurate. The Palestinians have more land than that.

As for the news itself it is a great development. The government of Netanyahu played their cards wrongly and now they'll lose out massively on the world stage or their own arrogance and greed. How much right-wing support would it have cost to just admit that they should stop the new settlements and get rid of some of the old ones? Probably a lot. Probably enough to where he wouldn't be prime minister or have a chance at re-election. And if this thing gains momentum, they stand to be forced to give up much more land than they would ever have been asked to give up on their own accord. 190 countries vs. U.S. & Israel, diplomatically, can't possibly go in Israel's favor. At some point the U.S. would just concede out of embarrassment and frustration at having to defend a stubborn ally.

Anybody's who read a transcript of the infamous Bar-Ilan speech would know that there is little sympathy to be had for Israel on the particular issue of what should compose the Palestinian state.



also, an interesting article (mentions the 67 borders and Netanyahu's underhanded tactics):

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkpoint-washington/2010/07/netanyahu_america_is_a_thing_y.html
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Mobinga: 5:49pm On Dec 07, 2010
How is this any of our business?
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Kajiang02(m): 5:59pm On Dec 07, 2010
I jst wonder hw issues like this shld even concern us,
Maybe for d sake of History,
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by lovejo(m): 6:07pm On Dec 07, 2010
why cant all of you ask where is the Isreal before 1946, dont be biased by following the map from 1946. They use this always to makes isreal looks bad.

Dont be bias, read the link below to know that ISREAL has been the owner before roman empire.


http://focusonjerusalem.com/maproom.html
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Nobody: 6:17pm On Dec 07, 2010
I am glad countries are not basing their support on religious sentiments i.e. whether one book 'prophesied' something or other. I feel sorry for the many innocent Palestinians killed because of this land dispute. So many lives wasted just because of Religious sentiments.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Nobody: 6:17pm On Dec 07, 2010
I wonder where Nigeria as a country, supports.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by kelao: 6:19pm On Dec 07, 2010
Dont distort history.
Its only a blind man
that will say bethlehem and jerusalem
belong to arabs.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by DapoBear(m): 6:26pm On Dec 07, 2010
kelao:

Dont distort history.
Its only a blind man
that will say bethlehem and jerusalem
belong to arabs.

Jerusalem was conquered by the Arabs almost 1400 years ago. Before that, it was conquered by the Romans. Jewish people have not controlled that land for more than 2000 years.

Also, demographics changed. In 1930 or whatever, the territory was almost entirely Palestinian.

It was purely a landgrab.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Ericology(m): 6:42pm On Dec 07, 2010
kelao:

Dont distort history.
Its only a blind man
that will say bethlehem and jerusalem
belong to arabs.

Thanks my brother, The Nairalanders never carry out their own research , thats the bane of many of us here, somebody pops in, sees a map and  immediately starts to comment nonsense, Didnt some of them here know that the Map used to be almost 80% white(Jewish) until the Romans destroyed the last Temple abt  70 AD leading to the mass exodus of the Jews due to persecution?
           Didnt they know that the white part of the Map kept reducing from 635AD when the followers of the then dead Prophet Mohammed PBUH invaded the middle east, north Africa and Southern Spain to spread Islam? Didnt they know the Ottoman Caliphate who controlled that area for centuries brought in many Muslims from SE europe and middle east to populate Palestine while the Jews constantly moved out due to persecution?      One day someone will draw a map of southern Spain(grenada and environs) during the Moorish occupation and now that its under Spain and some people wld be mad at Spain for taking over the land without trying to find out how the Moors(Muslims) got there in the first place,   NEVERTHELESS I SUPPORT A PALESTINIAN STATE, ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THAT THEY WERE BORN THERE AND THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SELF RULE, seeing Israel as a usurper of land is meaningless, i rest my case
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by InkedNerd(f): 6:45pm On Dec 07, 2010
Israel is the Middle Eastern version of the US. They're always trying to play the role of the global police. Along  with the theft of African, Native American, and Australian/New Zealand/Pacific Island lands, Palestine unfortunately has been added to the list. I have friends in Palestine and I worry about them everyday when I hear of the horrible things going on. will ALWAYS stand by Palestine.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Donmeca(m): 7:11pm On Dec 07, 2010
U guys are funny!
u are not commenting on what is happening at ur backyard but chose to worry over israel and palestine. Do u like what Morocco is doing to Western Sahara, what Northern Sudan does to the south (Darfur) or the two parallel govts in Ivory coast? Better remove ur log b4 going for another man's spec.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Ericology(m): 7:16pm On Dec 07, 2010
DapoBear:

Jerusalem was conquered by the Arabs almost 1400 years ago. Before that, it was conquered by the Romans. Jewish people have not controlled that land for more than 2000 years.

Also, demographics changed. In 1930 or whatever, the territory was almost entirely Palestinian.

It was purely a landgrab.

Stop contradicting urself, if Jews controlled it and then over to the Romans, then Arabs, why r u crying now the the Jews have re-taken it?  u also talked about demographic change, why r u calling it a land grab now that the demographics have changed in favour of the Jews?, Stop arguing with sentiments, however Palestinians deserve a homeland, i support their dreams but u have to be impartial while deliberating on some issues
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Donmeca(m): 7:18pm On Dec 07, 2010
DapoBear:

Jerusalem was conquered by the Arabs almost 1400 years ago. Before that, it was conquered by the Romans. Jewish people have not controlled that land for more than 2000 years.

Also, demographics changed. In 1930 or whatever, the territory was almost entirely Palestinian.

It was purely a landgrab.

was conquered? Pray, who was occupying it b4 then, animals or humans? If humans, Jews or Nazis?
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Donmeca(m): 7:19pm On Dec 07, 2010
Thanks Ericology for the response above. The guy is confused. Saying A while meaning B is bad.
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by tunde121oke: 7:20pm On Dec 07, 2010
really
Re: Argentina, Uruguay And Brazil Recognize Palestine As State by Ericology(m): 7:36pm On Dec 07, 2010
Donmeca:

Thanks Ericology for the response above. The guy is confused. Saying A while meaning B is bad.

Thx my Brother, some people only listen to Religious preachers who are no more smarter than them but 4 the reason that they read some holy books, lol

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