Mrs.Chima:


Back in 1930, America suffered a great depression when the economy crashed.  The president FDR created an act called "The Great Deal" which is modern day welfare system. 

A woman who apply for welfare at the time could not hold any marriage license and no male were to be present in the household when social workers visit the home. This movemnt caused a division with the NUCLEAR BLACK FAMILIES Black women were becoming head of house hold in the 60's during the Jim Crow Era because black men were put in jail for protesting against the unjust. Jim Crow caused such rift amongst black women and men that the marriage between the two dwindled  and women having to step up providing for their children by depending on the welfare system.

In order for the government not to have records of such union they were often married in private halls by the preacher and under the Islamic tenet, you were married under Allah and witnesses.  The blacks took the same tenet and made it work for them. 

Now we are moving toward 1970's during the New Age Movement, the nuclear black families were completely destroyed and black women became head of household after black men were sought out by the police force because of riots and protests. 

isale_gan2:

But I have to highlight some things that really conflicted with everything I know.  I'm not AA, but pursuing Pol Sci in the US means, to my utter consternation, I know more about American History and Politics than that of my own.  

Mrs.Chima:

We don't want you.

eku_bear:

Me and you both But I'm trying to fix the situation by paying more attention to Nigerian politics and history.

isale_gan2:

Hey, Bear.  It irks me.  I am working on it.  Maybe I'll just get a Ed.D and teach American History or Comparative Politics or something in Nigeria.

isale_gan2:

I think you meant FDR's "NEW DEAL." You're conflating Great Depression and New Deal.

[size=16pt]I was not born during those times however my elders were and according to them they referred it as the GREAT DEAL because they thought it was a crock of dog poo and that America should protect their own regardless of ethnicities or creed.[/size]

"JIM CROW" was not in the 1960s.  Jim Crow happened in the period after the civil war, during Reconstruction, 1865 onwards.  You must have meant to say, 60s = time of the Civil Rights Movement, MLK's time.  

[size=16pt]You are incorrect the JIM CROW law was enacted in 1876 to 1965.  Blacks were causing riots and protests against the Era.  So again, JIM CROW era and Civil Rights Movement are two separate entities.[/size]

This is surprising. I have never heard of this. While I am not NOI, I have had a lot of contact with them, plus other "mainstream" Muslims in the US. Black muslims in America, mainly the Nation of Islam, did not approve of or enablesingle motherhood. I have seen nothing referencing the practice, in the 70s or beyond, where women were encouraged to get married by an Imam under "Islamic Tenet" so they could continue to collect welfare from the government.  To the contrary, the Black Muslims emphasised economic independence and, in some cases, separatism.

[size=16pt]I stated that black couples uses the Islamic tenet of marriage being honored under Allah and witnesses to their advantage as they tried to hide their marriage from the government to receive public aid. In other words, in order for a black woman to receive public aid she could not be married however at that time NUCLEAR BLACK FAMILIES were still strong and the thought of not marrying in the family was atrocious to keep the family tradition they found another way to be married and still receive government aid. Understand now?[/size]


To what extent did Blacks participate in the New Age Movement in 70s?  The prevailing view is that the 70s for AA was a time when they were proclaiming the "Black Power" and "Black Separatist"movements, along with  "Black Liberation Theology."  Black  participation in the New Age Movement was very limited.

[size=16pt]The New Age Movement again was COINED BY AA COMMUNITY when the shift in black families as BLACK MEN WERE SHIPPED OFF TO PRISON FOR causing riots and protests.  You are right the 70's were black power era HENCE prisons having LARGEST NUMBERS of AA men during that time.  Because of that, black women became head of household and the rate of single black women with children increased.[/size]

isale_gan2:

Hey, Bear.  It irks me.  I am working on it.  Maybe I'll just get a Ed.D and teach American History or Comparative Politics or something in Nigeria.

eku_bear:


Money in that proly ain't right

Leverage poli sci into law degree?

I thought I wanted to be a professor too, but realized I'd rather be rich instead. . .

Mygoldie:

don't cry dude sense.





@oh really sis, i wish we had one too.

Mrs.Chima:

Are you African or AA?

isale_gan2:

101% African. Nigerian.

eku_bear:

@Princek12: I guess we will agree to disagree.

eku_bear:

I also have never heard it called the Great Deal. And my 10th grade History teacher was an older AA woman.

justdream:

I Know Looking At Me, Yu Just Was Wishing Yu Dint Get Married To Chima

Mrs.Chima:

Was she born in 1930's? 

Princek12:

Mz DarkSkin,

you are seriously delusional.

How am I delusional hun? you complimented us foreign women while disrespecting Naija women AS A NIGERIAN MAN, I think the pot is calling the beige kettle black

MzD@rkSkin:

How am I delusional hun? you complimented us foreign women while disrespecting Naija women AS A NIGERIAN MAN, I think the pot is calling the beige kettle black

Princek12:

Exactly my point. How has my statement of my own opinion about the low number of Nigerian women who are shapely become disrespectful to Nigerian women? You are seriously delusional. So does any factual statement automatically translates to disrespect? I am a realist and will say the truth. You can jump off a cliff, if it makes you happy.

If I ever think like you, maybe I will take you up on the cliff offer. Hey make it interesting: NO PARACHUTE 

My point is common sense will show it is you who is PAST delusional, you are just down right 'tarded not even deserving of a "re" prefix , because Nigeria contributed the most slaves during the slave trade (of course it was not just them however they were a MAJOR key player/supplier of human cargo), with that said most of us Akatas, Jamos;etc inherited our looks and shape from? YEP. . .YOU GUESSED IT! 

Mr.Cork, thanks but sharap! 

isale_gan2:

I noticed this topic and thought it was interesting - with no intent to participate since I had nothing to contribute.

But I have to highlight some things that really conflicted with everything I know.  I'm not AA, but pursuing Pol Sci in the US means, to my utter consternation, I know more about American History and Politics than that of my own.  

Really, I have to address the following, and feel free to reply me :

1) I think you meant FDR's "NEW DEAL." You're conflating Great Depression and New Deal.

2) "JIM CROW" was not in the 1960s.  Jim Crow happened in the period after the civil war, during Reconstruction, 1865 onwards.  You must have meant to say, 60s = time of the Civil Rights Movement, MLK's time.
 
3) This is surprising. I have never heard of this. While I am not NOI, I have had a lot of contact with them, plus other "mainstream" Muslims in the US. Black muslims in America, mainly the Nation of Islam, did not approve of or enable single motherhood. I have seen nothing referencing the practice, in the 70s or beyond, where women were encouraged to get married by an Imam under "Islamic Tenet" so they could continue to collect welfare from the government.  To the contrary, the Black Muslims emphasised economic independence and, in some cases, separatism.

4) To what extent did Blacks participate in the New Age Movement in 70s?  The prevailing view is that the 70s for AA was a time when they were proclaiming the "Black Power" and "Black Separatist"movements, along with  "Black Liberation Theology."  I always thought Black  participation in the New Age Movement was very limited.

Other than that, interesting thread.

Mr, Cork:

FACT: MzDarksin is preeetier than Nigerian women

Mrs.Chima:

Thank you, Shyone. I guess he had to hear from you because I basically said the same thing with different delivery.

You are exactly right Shyone because many people who are Muslims with multiple wives are not married in the court system and that practice were adopted by the blacks during the NEW DEAL era please let me say that before he start preaching about what he never read. Goodness. Blacks adopted the that practice to ensure family tradition and was still using the government for benefits.

The shift in Nuclear Black families made black women the head of household and many of the brothers are in jail.

D-sense:

Now,I can just see you are completely blind!

Mrs.Chima:
Why are you attracted to Jamo, Akata, and Islander sisters?

What does Jamo, Akata, and Islander sisters have that appease your attraction?

Do you see them no different than your fellow African sisters? I would say No. Jamo, Akata, and Islander sisters ancestry started in Africa.