Some people are talking about Buhari not being eloquent when the problem actually is that he has little understanding of the problems we face and no clue on how to solve the problems. My problem here is that he just paid some people to write some super manifesto for him without even reading it. Wonders shall never end.


When I have the time, i will attempt to match what each of them said in that debate with their published manifestos.

Ribadu for one ended up shedding votes by attending the debate.

rhamzus:

Shekarau spoke like a man of intelligence, he spoke with confidence and he came well prepared. He is the man to vote for but sorry the westerners would not support him.

Ribadu was a disgrace; stubborn, beating around d bush and talking out of point. the guy no get mandate or plans to achieve his goals.

Buhari: well tried but he time his time is gone, the manner he ruled during military regime can nt b applied in democracy rule.

This is not true and those not distracted by Shekarau's eloquence can see , easily , through his facade and lack of substance . I will give two examples . Shekarau says he will do away with the EFCC and ICPC to strenghten the Police Force . Does that make sense to right thinking Nigerians? The police that could not solve the murder of a sitting Minister of justice (Bola Ige) , and actually botched up the crime scene for the foreign investigators that arrived to help , will bring sophisticated Bernard Maddoff type criminals to book  
In any case , Shekarau should look around . Not many successful nations has the model he proposes because that model is patently flawed i.e having the Police fight every type of crime is clueless, archaic and discredited . Perhaps Shekarau also believes we should fund the Police more so they can also fight terrorism !!!  It is absolutely essential to have specialist agencies , trained specifically for the task at hand , to fight specialist crime !!!! it is as simple as that. Shekarau was just pandering to the audience with populist yet empty rhetoric.

On the Jos crisis , he says he will use the formula that worked in Kano !!!!!! This shows Shekarau's "intelligence" and limitations . How can he solve the problems of Jos with methods used in Kano ? Do both States have exactly the same problems ? Are the causes of rancour the same ? What about the ethnic mix? Is it the same ? Ridiculous suggestions by Shekarau if you ask me !!!!

The sad thing is that Shekarau , if one has high standards, only stood out for his eloquence . His ideas , IMO , are nothing to write about . Ribadu had the best new-age ideas that indicates he has studied the problems and understands modern leadership and the solution synergy required. His aggression may have been distractive and off-putting to some but this is outright fallacy:

the guy no get mandate or plans to achieve his goals.

because even those who do not like Ribadu admit he was , by far , the best on the issue of power supply while Shekarau pontificated vaguely. Is power supply not one of the greatest challenges facing our nation? It can only be sheer and unreasonable hatred of Ribadu that is now making many go over the top to the extent they can conclude "he has no plan" when the man came out on top as regards our number one national challenge. There is even no attempt ,by some nairalanders , to give credit where credit is due !!! Na wa OOOO !!! Yet we say we want a Nation that works ?

Ribadu , IMO , had the most feasible ideas as per the Jos Crisis, Power supply , The ND impasse . These are some of the most serious issues currently facing Nigeria . Yet folks , one after the other, overlooked all what Ribadu said because he was "aggresive and arrogant" ? I don't think many Nigerians understand critical thinking yet. This may be why our leadership stratosphere is riddled with eloquent crooks like Bukola Saraki, Dimeji Bankole , Peter Odili et al  !!!!! Shekarau is in the league of "eloquent crooks" if some of us bother to investigate and put sentiments aside  . He has been mediocre as a Governor of Kano for 8 years same as Yar Adua who was poor as Katsina Governor and went on to waste three years as President . Shekarau is the same Governor indicted as one of the corrupt Governors by the EFCC with several accounts abroad and now he is suddenly "intelligent" ? Nigerians sef !!! Some of you folks should start doing your basic research before you lumber us with another failure simply because you were impressed at seeing an eloquent "aboki" . Below, someone who know Shekarau talk of him before the debate:

Well Oliver Okpala i totally disagree with you. I am from Kano but honestly Shekarau is a FAILURE. Yes in the last 2 years he's been constructing Roads but the main issue is Should be the improvement of the lives of the common man interms of Jobs creation and what have you, Shekarau has done nothing in that regards. Societal reorientation that he's been championing is even worse than before him. People live and behave like animals in Kano. It is a lawlessness state where everyone can do what he likes,from beating traffick to throwing garbages on the street. Kano is very dirty. Kano has now become the highest rate of drug addicts in the whole africa. Shekarau has abandoned the people that saw him through the election after the will of God.He has betrayed them. Education nothing to see and endless stories. So now tell how the hell has Shekarau performed well in his last 2 terms? He may have bribed you to create this false news.

GEJ is a disgrace. I've always looked up to him from day1, but he never failed to disappoin me. Fc.uk him, i pray he losses this contest come April. Anybody but him. Sad

yes bro jo jst keeps dissapointing me

shit am speechlesssssssssssssss

I have not seen the fulll speech , all I can say is that, Buhari is not a speaker and is in fact very modest. I have watched a number of his interviews and find it very frustrating. I can sell his achievments beter than he can do so himself.

Shekarau from appear to have performed well.

What we need to ask is whether being a good speaker is what we need in our president.

After all Jams Ibori and Bankole are very articulate.


What we need first and formost is somebody with sufficient track record , for us not to take any more chances with our future.

Someone who is not corrupt and who is incorruptible.

Someone who is anti corruption.

Buhari's actions and track record does all the talking for him

Jonathan spent 8 years as Deputy Governor/Governor in Balyesa, a deep Niger Deltan State, and he has no clue about his own people's issues. He did NOTHING for his own people during that time and enriched himself while he was at it, doing nothing.


We celebrate people like Amaechi Rotimi (A Niger-Deltan Governor for 4 years) for the visible improvements he has made to his state in such a short time. Peter Chime, who in only 4 years as Governor of Enugu State has transformed the state in so many ways, is another Governor worth mentioning. Then there is Fashola in Lagos State who has helped improve one of the most populous states in the country in 4 years.

Jonathan had 8 years to work with and did nothing in all that time in one of the most funded but least populated states in the country. What about the wrongs he committed against his own people in the South-South? Or do they deserve to have another 4 years of NOTHING for all their woes?.

The same man has been in Aso Rock for almost 4 years and he has again done NOTHING for his people from Aso Rock. He is still promising them all but has yet to deliver anything to them from there.

wise:

DEM NO GO USE MY HEAD OOOO, IN LAGOS, IT IS 100% CERTAIN MY VOTE WOULD BE FOR FASHOLA, BUT AT THE FEDERAL, I AM 70% SURE IT WOULD BE FOR JO JO, Ribadu has no idea but his running mate is the reason why i am still waiting. Whosoever emerges as the President should quickly snapped this man Up and let the job begin, QUOTE ME, RIBADU can never emerged as the President of this Country come April 2011.

Pray tell, why any Nigerian in his right senses want to vote for the same man that has neglected them 12 years straight to return for another 4 years? Don’t you think it is a tad hypocritical (I hate to use this word here as it is been overly misused on Nairaland, but unfortunately this is one case where it fits properly).

You pretend you will vote Fashola, a man who hit the ground running as a Governor(with no previous experience at all) but you want to give a bigger pass to a man who could not make it rise for 8 years in his own state, and then another 4 years at the National level.

wise:

I LOVE NIGERIA, DON'T LET THEM USE your HEAD OOO.

It is too easy to claim you love Nigeria in mere words – but when do you actually start loving Nigeria? I mean in your actions and deeds?

Biscute:

Hola Nigerians, too much grammar and well polished english is different from administration,.
If big english produces good leadership we better look for the likes of Pastor Chris Okotie,  Pastor tunde Bakare and Dan Masa ni Kano to be our president.
Debate or no debate let us ask God to give us good leader that can take care of Nigeria factors

i wonder why people believe in debates

ribadu all the way!

Sai Ribadu!

seunlayi:

i wonder why people believe in debates

For the same reason employers believe in interviewing prospective candidates before employing them. In the case of debates, Nigerians are the employers and the presidential contenders are the would-be candidates. If they want to lead a people, then they should be able to face them and answer their questions.

Kobojunkie:

Jonathan spent 8 years as Deputy Governor/Governor in Balyesa, a deep Niger Deltan State, and he has no clue about his own people's issues. He did NOTHING for his own people during that time and enriched himself while he was at it, doing nothing.


We celebrate people like Amaechi Rotimi (A Niger-Deltan Governor for 4 years) for the visible improvements he has made to his state in such a short time. Peter Chime, who in only 4 years as Governor of Enugu State has transformed the state in so many ways, is another Governor worth mentioning. Then there is Fashola in Lagos State who has helped improve one of the most populous states in the country in 4 years.

Jonathan had 8 years to work with and did nothing in all that time in one of the most funded but least populated states in the country. What about the wrongs he committed against his own people in the South-South? Or do they deserve to have another 4 years of NOTHING for all their woes?.

The same man has been in Aso Rock for almost 4 years and he has again done NOTHING for his people from Aso Rock. He is still promising them all but has yet to deliver anything to them from there.

Pray tell, why any Nigerian in his right senses want to vote for the same man that has neglected them 12 years straight to return for another 4 years? Don’t you think it is a tad hypocritical (I hate to use this word here as it is been overly misused on Nairaland, but unfortunately this is one case where it fits properly).

You pretend you will vote Fashola, a man who hit the ground running as a Governor(with no previous experience at all) but you want to give a bigger pass to a man who could not make it rise for 8 years in his own state, and then another 4 years at the National level.It is too easy to claim you love Nigeria in mere words – but when do you actually start loving Nigeria? I mean in your actions and deeds?

DESPERATE Write-ups this is, GEJ all the way!!!

[size=38pt]The debate:[/size]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDAyUYcmudc?version=3[/flash]

Ribadu was rather incoherent and sounded desperate.Buhari was a bit laidback but he is miles apart from Ribadu.I am not sure Shekarau's sweet words will be matched by action.

Talk is cheap.

The BON Presidential debate is by the corner (From 28th and 30th March).
Then we shall hear Mr. President.

http://dailytrust.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14021:bon-confirms-plan-to-hold-presidential-debate&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

^^we shall hear from [i]only [/i]him. Other candidates have pull out.

Was Shekarau indicted or you just said that in the heat of argument? Didnt find his name on the list submitted to the Senate by EFCC in 2006. Or was it later? I'm just interested in the facts, pls. I dont know him from nowhere.
http://www.ocnus.net/artman2/publish/Africa_8/Looting_EFCC_Report_Indicts_15_Governors_26047_printer.shtml

Gbawe:

This is not true and those not distracted by Shekarau's eloquence can see , easily , through his facade and lack of substance . I will give two examples . Shekarau says he will do away with the EFCC and ICPC to strenghten the Police Force . Does that make sense to right thinking Nigerians? The police that could not solve the murder of a sitting Minister of justice (Bola Ige) , and actually botched up the crime scene for the foreign investigators that arrived to help , will bring sophisticated Bernard Maddoff type criminals to book
In any case , Shekarau should look around . Not many successful nations has the model he proposes because that model is patently flawed i.e having the Police fight every type of crime is clueless, archaic and discredited . Perhaps Shekarau also believes we should fund the Police more so they can also fight terrorism !!! It is absolutely essential to have specialist agencies , trained specifically for the task at hand , to fight specialist crime !!!! it is as simple as that. Shekarau was just pandering to the audience with populist yet empty rhetoric.

On the Jos crisis , he says he will use the formula that worked in Kano !!!!!! This shows Shekarau's "intelligence" and limitations . How can he solve the problems of Jos with methods used in Kano ? Do both States have exactly the same problems ? Are the causes of rancour the same ? What about the ethnic mix? Is it the same ? Ridiculous suggestions by Shekarau if you ask me !!!!

The sad thing is that Shekarau , if one has high standards, only stood out for his eloquence . His ideas , IMO , are nothing to write about . Ribadu had the best new-age ideas that indicates he has studied the problems and understands modern leadership and the solution synergy required. His aggression may have been distractive and off-putting to some but this is outright fallacy: because even those who do not like Ribadu admit he was , by far , the best on the issue of power supply while Shekarau pontificated vaguely. Is power supply not one of the greatest challenges facing our nation? It can only be sheer and unreasonable hatred of Ribadu that is now making many go over the top to the extent they can conclude "he has no plan" when the man came out on top as regards our number one national challenge. There is even no attempt ,by some nairalanders , to give credit where credit is due !!! Na wa OOOO !!! Yet we say we want a Nation that works ?

Ribadu , IMO , had the most feasible ideas as per the Jos Crisis, Power supply , The ND impasse . These are some of the most serious issues currently facing Nigeria . Yet folks , one after the other, overlooked all what Ribadu said because he was "aggresive and arrogant" ? I don't think many Nigerians understand critical thinking yet. This may be why our leadership stratosphere is riddled with eloquent crooks like Bukola Saraki, Dimeji Bankole , Peter Odili et al !!!!! Shekarau is in the league of "eloquent crooks" if some of us bother to investigate and put sentiments aside . He has been mediocre as a Governor of Kano for 8 years same as Yar Adua who was poor as Katsina Governor and went on to waste three years as President . Shekarau is the same Governor indicted as one of the corrupt Governors by the EFCC with several accounts abroad and now he is suddenly "intelligent" ? Nigerians sef !!! Some of you folks should start doing your basic research before you lumber us with another failure simply because you were impressed at seeing an eloquent "aboki" . Below, someone who know Shekarau talk of him before the debate:

Tokotaya:

Was Shekarau indicted or you just said that in the heat of argument? Didnt find his name on the list submitted to the Senate by EFCC in 2006. Or was it later? I'm just interested in the facts, pls. I dont know him from nowhere.
http://www.ocnus.net/artman2/publish/Africa_8/Looting_EFCC_Report_Indicts_15_Governors_26047_printer.shtml

No. I don't make things up. Unlike most folks, I just have a good memory to link the past with the present in forming opinions.

http://www.saharareporters.com/article/farida-waziri%E2%80%99s-efcc-and-playing-gallery

In 2004, the allegations were all over the paper that Ibrahim Shekarau was caught with four million US Dollars, one million Euros and some millions of Naira in various account in Thailand, Saudi Arabia and back in Nigeria, are those amount not enough for his name to appear on corrupt persons list Mrs Waziri?

Time will not allow to write on Chimaroke NNamani the bano Governor of Enugu state or Pete Odili and the famous and notorious Adamu Aliero who milked Kebbi state dry to its bone marrow. Of course not forgetting Dr Sam Egwu who unfortunately is a minister in the Yar’adua illegal government.

All the above former governors were amongst the 31 that were on the EFCC list handed over to Farida Waziri by Nuhu Ribadu, how come their names have been removed from the most corrupt persons list over night?


What of those who stole $12.4 billion Dollars?  Are such amounts not substantial enough to warrant their names appearing on the EFCC list of corrupt person?


Farida Waziri and Umoru Yar’adua are just trivializing this war against corruption. Big time thieves like Ibori, Sam Egwu, Adamu Aliero, and Ibrahim Shekarau are untouchable from EFCC point. These are people whole stole billions while petty thieves whole few millions are harassed.

http://weekly.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=818:re-ibrahim-shekarau-and-2011-why-he-cannot-win-&catid=1:comments&Itemid=109

Mr Audu will agree with me that the issues I raised on why Nigerians will never vote for his principal, Ibrahim Shekarau,  are that his name is the fourth on the EFCC list of 31 corrupt governors as documented by EFCC when Nuhu Ribadu was in charge. That he has foreign accounts in Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Thailand and Egypt as was revealed in the press as far back as 2004 and 2006 which is against the principle of the Nigerian constitution of 1999.

Presidential Debate: Who Impressed You Most?

The above subject refers;

Some people are so stupid in this country that they have to pick Jonathan has the most candidate that impressed them during the debate.
Did Jonathan attend the debate for him to impress them.I am very sure these are educated illirate sorry graduate.It is as good as offering marks to a candidate that does not write an exam.

Buhari Bakare 2011:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx08Zc0DPD8

Please. I want to use the opportunity to warn all BB supporters, to try and remain law abiding as the underdogs, any slight provacation will mean alot.
Though, I really want Naija to change(due to the sheer hatred for PDP gangstas), I will never be party to ANY lawless violation of constituted authority. I wan't to crave our indulgent to always use this signature.

"Let it be free and fair"

Am not a fan of ANY presidential aspirant. Thanks

successtay:

Presidential Debate: Who Impressed You Most?

The above subject refers;

Some people are so silly in this country that they have to pick Jonathan has the most candidate that impressed them during the debate.
Did Jonathan attend the debate for him to impress them.I am very sure these are educated illirate sorry graduate.It is as good as offering marks to a candidate that does not write an exam.

Man the joke is on you seriously, please think very well before you abuse other people casting the vote for goodluck.

GEJ 57 (10.3%)

[size=14pt]WHO ARE THOSE IDIOOOOTS WHO VOTED 4 JEG. HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, DUMB ARSESSSSSSSSSS.[/size]

Dr Okupe just foolishly admitted that he asked for areas which questions may be asked so his principal can prepare. In other words he asked for area of concentration. I'm sick of PDP.

This is not true and those not distracted by Shekarau's eloquence can see , easily , through his facade and lack of substance . I will give two examples . Shekarau says he will do away with the EFCC and ICPC to strenghten the Police Force . Does that make sense to right thinking Nigerians? The police that could not solve the murder of a sitting Minister of justice (Bola Ige) , and actually botched up the crime scene for the foreign investigators that arrived to help , will bring sophisticated Bernard Maddoff type criminals to book Shocked Shocked Shocked
In any case , Shekarau should look around . Not many successful nations has the model he proposes because that model is patently flawed i.e having the Police fight every type of crime is clueless, archaic and discredited . Perhaps Shekarau also believes we should fund the Police more so they can also fight terrorism !!! It is absolutely essential to have specialist agencies , trained specifically for the task at hand , to fight specialist crime !!!! it is as simple as that. Shekarau was just pandering to the audience with populist yet empty rhetoric.

On the Jos crisis , he says he will use the formula that worked in Kano !!!!!! This shows Shekarau's "intelligence" and limitations . How can he solve the problems of Jos with methods used in Kano ? Do both States have exactly the same problems ? Are the causes of rancour the same ? What about the ethnic mix? Is it the same ? Ridiculous suggestions by Shekarau if you ask me !!!!

The sad thing is that Shekarau , if one has high standards, only stood out for his eloquence . His ideas , IMO , are nothing to write about . Ribadu had the best new-age ideas that indicates he has studied the problems and understands modern leadership and the solution synergy required. His aggression may have been distractive and off-putting to some but this is outright fallacy:

You simply disagree with him. He has brought forth his own ideas and which i consider practicable and useful. Declaring martial law in Jos will not solve anything and stifle economic growth, the best id balancing the interests of all the diverse groups both religious and ethnic as he did in Kano. Kano was much worse than Jos. there was once a state within the state and a civil war against entrenched religious stalwarts. But Shekarau brought peace.

The Nigerian Police is weakened and the public has lost confidence in it, creating fragments of security agencies will only worsen and complicate things. There is no big deal if the EFCC is a branch of the police, the police too are supposed to fight corruption. The best thing is to train, equip and convert it to an efficient force, it is the lack of these efforts that make the police the trash they are today.

Ribadu is an accomplice in the only regime! Badly playing Obama. Everyone even Jonathan knows that Nigeria needs to be developed, so shouting 'development' and 'youth' is not impressive. Shekarau is more level headed and will perform in the international arena.

Buhari's actions and track record does all the talking for him Grin

As I have always said, Buhari is a human rights disaster! Bakare is a lying intolerant prickk

Buhari has a lot of humanity this is why he made sure he brought down inflation from 39% to 4%.

You also have to understand that Military government by their nature are not a bed of roses.

Kay 17:

As I have always said, Buhari is a human rights disaster! Bakare is a lying intolerant prickk

Hmmmm, ! Interesting points of view,

Who owns that NN24, how can South Africa organise a presidential debate for Naija.
It is good that Jonathan did not go. No be the same ple dey yab us,

Now na South Africa Organize the Debate? ^^^ You no get head of your own or something?

GenBuhari:

Buhari has a lot of humanity this is why he made sure he brought down inflation from 39% to 4%.

You also have to understand that Military government by their nature are not a bed of roses.

like enacting retrospective laws