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Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by Beaf: 10:22am On Mar 20, 2011
The African Union should be BOMBED. cool
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by KnowAll(m): 10:32am On Mar 20, 2011
Let the Zimbabwean people revolt and Mugabe decides to slaughter them and see what will happen

The people of Matabeland revolted in the late 80's and early 90's, over 20,000 people were put down by Mugabe's dreaded " Fifth Brigade". They have been disbanded now. The West did noting then.


The Fifth Brigade was an elite unit of specially-trained Zimbabwean soldiers. The Fifth Brigade was formed in 1981 and disbanded in 1988 after allegations of brutality and murder during the Brigade's occupation of Matabeleland. It was reformed later and was active in 2006 at least.[1]


In October 1980, President Robert Mugabe signed an agreement with the North Korean President, Kim Il Sung, that they would train and equip a brigade for the Zimbabwe National Army.[2] In August 1981, 106 North Koreans arrived to train the new brigade.
The members of the Fifth Brigade were drawn from 3500 ex-ZANLA troops, including two unintegrated ZANLA battalions, at Tongogara Assembly Point. There were a few ZIPRA troops in the unit initially, but they were withdrawn before the end of the training. It has been reported that there were also some foreigners in the unit, possibly Tanzanians. The training of Fifth Brigade lasted until September 1982, when Minister Sekeramayi announced training was complete.


Civil war in the mid-1980s

Between 1982 and 1985 the Fifth Brigade brutally crushed any resistance in Matabeleland. Over 20,000 civilians died and were buried in mass graves, during which many atrocities were committed.[2] The intensity of their actions during the mid-1980s is associated with a specific Zimbabwean word Gukurahundi. This is most simply translated as "the rain which washes away the chaff before the spring rains."In 2011, Zimbabwean mercenaries fought with along side troops loyal to Libya's Gaddafi after the "Arab Spring" regime changes in late winter.
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Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by denitro(m): 10:42am On Mar 20, 2011
Breaking News:


Source: Aljazeera

We have opened all Libyan arms depots to arm people against the oppressors
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by Adrenaline: 10:48am On Mar 20, 2011
@ Topic

GUess other tyrant leaders like him in Afirca are scared that they might be next, they certainly can't be comfortable with such trends of uprisings around them
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by dejiariyo1: 11:03am On Mar 20, 2011
Its sad some Africans dont even know who the real enemy is, The imperialist
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by Bastage: 1:45pm On Mar 20, 2011
Guys. Whilst I'm not it's biggest fan I should point out that this is not the African Union saying these things. It is a panel.

It's made up of 5 member countries - South Africa, Uganda, Mali, Mauritania and Congo.

Mali, Mauritania and Congo receive massive amounts of money from Gaddafi. They were always going to defend him for financial reasons.
South Africa and Uganda would not have made this statement but were outvoted 3 to 2. The ANC even saw this coming a couple of days ago and warned Zuma that they should pull out of the panel.
Also, remind yourselves that South Africa was part of the UN security council that voted for the No-Fly zone.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by kodewrita(m): 1:48pm On Mar 20, 2011
deji.ariyo:

Its sad some Africans dont even know who the real enemy is, The imperialist
Imperi-nonsense. the enemy is within. the dictators that are holding at least 15 of the most populous african countries back are the enemies (Ethiopia, Gambia, Zimbabwe, Chad, Niger, Mali , Ivory Coast, Uganda, Cameroun etc).

You people have grown so enamored with tyranny that you even defend it. Ghadaffi is a pest just like the AU that he funded and motivated. They are just a bunch of senseless aged dictators.

denitro:

Breaking News:


Source: Aljazeera

We have opened all Libyan arms depots to arm people against the oppressors

of course the arms are going to his tribesmen and mercenaries.

KnowAll:

African union should put their money where there mouth is, they should raise a million people to fight for Gadaffai since the war would be on the ground with the no fly zone in place. The group with the most men and would surely win. If they cannot do this,  they should shut-up. Anyway most of those die hard dictators in Africa have over the years in their respective nation and states dispensed off,  over a million people in their nations directly and indirectly so an extra one million would be one million less mouth to feed.  undecided

No sensible african under tyranny will join up to go and fight for another tyrant. Why will a sensible nigerian accept to go and support ghadaffi if money is not the motivation. The nigerians that were caught there were mercenaries not fighting for some patriotic african motive.

Chyz*:

@Pataki,

before you come out and insult your people in favor of your masters(EU et al) you should actually click the link and read the full article. The AU took the peaceful and diplomatic route:



what other route can they take? will SA send a warship to stop the US Navy from launching tomahawks or will lowly Uganda send planes to go and oppose French Mirage Jets?

They are simply dumb.

besides the article has this too


Libyan generosity and Moamer Kadhafi's role in the creation of the African Union could explain the continental cautious stand, experts said.

The AU was born in the 1999 Sirte Declaration, named after a summit hosted by Kadhafi in his hometown on the Libyan coast.

they are simply trying to repay favours not being ethical or moral or pan-african in any way.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by youngmonie: 2:04pm On Mar 20, 2011
There are many aspects to this issues. Fine ghadaffi is wrong in his doing and actions. Lets now look at it the other way, who actually is UN, its just a body set up by a few powerful countries and they are actually excercising that power!!!! and what is African Union ??, They are just there to stabliise the price of oil. People dont actually know what is happning on ground in libya, its just what you heard on all dis international media ( foreign propaganda). This people are smart, no ground trooops in libya , they are jus doing everything through jets and warships. So what is their main aim in LIBYA!!! GHADAFFI OR THE PEOPLE!!?. THE EARLIER AFRICANS BEGIN TO REALISE THAT THE WEST IS NOT UR FRIEND THE BETTER.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/16/sarkozy-election-campaign-libya-claim

They are all hypocrites
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by Horus(m): 2:12pm On Mar 20, 2011
Russia, China warn not to use force against Libya

Russia and China have warned against the use of force in international affairs, expressing regret over the West coalition’s military action against Libya.

On Sunday, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zyang Yui urged the UN Security Council to stick to the UN Charter and take steps in line with Libya’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

He was echoed by Russian counterpart Alexander Lukashevich who called for an immediate halt of the bloodshed and the beginning of peace talks in Libya.

The two men also admonished for escalating the Libyan conflict, which they said is fraught with further loss of human life in the political unrest-hit North African country.

Source: http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/03/20/47684188.html
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by youngmonie: 2:16pm On Mar 20, 2011
Beaf:

The African Union should be BOMBED. cool
IJAW MENTALITY!!, IS THAT ALL U GUYS THINK ABOUT, BOMB PIPELINE NOW BOMB AU
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by EzeUche2(m): 2:18pm On Mar 20, 2011
The West is so hypocritical when it comes to international politics.

There are plenty of tyrants who need to be ousted and they target their own citizens, but when oil is at stake, they interfere within these nations. Who do they think they are fooling?
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by bidemi12(m): 2:26pm On Mar 20, 2011
homerac7:

Bluetooth

Guy, go check your history right. Europeans never brought slavery to Africa. Slavery had been before d Europeand exploited it. Mind u, slavery is still on-going in Africa but we all feel cool because there is no European to accuse.

WELL SAID,
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by na2day(m): 2:32pm On Mar 20, 2011
We all agree that Ghadaffi brought this on his own pate, we should also understand that the west is infact  jumping into this fray cos of their thirst for oil, Pls forget d humanitarian excuse they are proffering! Al Bashir's supporter of APC reduced d population of south Sudan and no tomahawk breaks their airspace.
The main architect of this present debacle in d making, Britain and France are looking for a regime change, especially Britain, remember it was same Britain dat made a deal with Ghaddaffi for oil exploration in exchange for d betrayal of d lockerbie victims cry from d grave for justice (also giving up d main accused without finishing his sentence),  same Britain was d first to send special forces (SAS) to meet wit d rebels for oil blocks negotiation and were promptly arrested and deported.
They panicked when ghaddaffi arrived at the gate of bengazi. of course, they know if ghaddaffi wins this one, dats their end in libya.
, and someone says dis battle is for humanity and not oil, smh  angry
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by EzeUche2(m): 2:35pm On Mar 20, 2011
Africans are just so dumb, that they do not understand World Politics. You can many of them are posting on this thread.

Whenever the West is involved in any nation, you have to wonder why, because there tyrants all around the world who have done far worse than the Mad Dog Gadaffi.

People use your mind for once and stop being naive. The West is involved in Libya, because of oil. Have you seen oil prices in the West? They are on the rise, because of this conflict.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by bechex(m): 2:47pm On Mar 20, 2011
Well, I believe everyone has his own opinion on what is happening in Libya, but some facts need to be ironed out,
1. The Libyan People held peacefull protest againt their President
2. Ghadaffi initiated attacks on his people, killing a lot of them using Millitary means including airstrikes against peacefull protesters.
3. The People started an armed revolt against him and he threatened to punish them. He said he will 'have no mercy'

The question we should ask ourseleves is that what would we do if we were in the shoes of the UN. After pleading with someone to implement a ceasefire, and he promises to ceasefire but ample evidence shows that he is still shelling his people.With the imminent slaughter of innocent people, what do you expect the UN to do, what would u do if you were in the shoes of the UN.

The issue of Bosnia, Zimbabwe or Rwanda should not be an issue here. if you can convince yourself that you would sit and do nothing in this case then u can criticize the UN.

I rest my case
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by femmy2010(m): 3:06pm On Mar 20, 2011
African leaders sha.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by frankkky: 3:08pm On Mar 20, 2011
@bechex GOD bless u jare
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by kodewrita(m): 3:10pm On Mar 20, 2011
EzeUche_:

Africans are just so dumb, that they do not understand World Politics. You can many of them are posting on this thread.

Whenever the West is involved in any nation, you have to wonder why, because there tyrants all around the world who have done far worse than the Mad Dog Gadaffi.

People use your mind for once and stop being naive. The West is involved in Libya, because of oil. Have you seen oil prices in the West? They are on the rise, because of this conflict.
So you mean rising oil prices benefit the West? Western countries already harvest the bulk of libyan oil. Its actually more profitable to leave ghadaffi there than to handover to a more patriotic government elected by Libyan voters.

In an attempt to justify rabid hatred of the West, people support all manner of things. You dont mind having a dictator kill his people as long as he makes the right noises about imperialism and resisting the invaders.


bechex:

Well, I believe everyone has his own opinion on what is happening in Libya, but some facts need to be ironed out,
1. The Libyan People held peacefull protest againt their President
2. Ghadaffi initiated attacks on his people, killing a lot of them using Millitary means including airstrikes against peacefull protesters.
3. The People started an armed revolt against him and he threatened to punish them. He said he will 'have no mercy'

The question we should ask ourseleves is that what would we do if we were in the shoes of the UN. After pleading with someone to implement a ceasefire, and he promises to ceasefire but ample evidence shows that he is still shelling his people.With the imminent slaughter of innocent people, what do you expect the UN to do, what would u do if you were in the shoes of the UN.

The issue of Bosnia, Zimbabwe or Rwanda should not be an issue here. if you can convince yourself that you would sit and do nothing in this case then u can criticize the UN.

I rest my case
May God continually bless thee.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by uplawal(f): 3:19pm On Mar 20, 2011
The OAU should all be sacked,they dnt have value for human lives
Nobody should blame the west on this issue at all,like David Cameron said,
the attack is legal. They should kill Gaddaffi and son Saif-islam like Saddam Hussein.

They warned him severally to ceasefire he dnt listen to them,his troops went in
house to house killing children and everybody,then the OAU was blind to see that

Me i support the west anyday anytime.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by jaybee3(m): 3:21pm On Mar 20, 2011
uplawal:

The OAU should all be sacked,they dnt have value for human lives
Nobody should blame the west on this issue at all,like David Cameron said,
the attack is legal. They should kill Gaddaffi and son Saif-islam like Saddam Hussein.

They warned him severally to ceasefire he dnt listen to them[b],his troops went in
house to house killing children and everybody[/b],then the OAU was blind to see that

Me i support the west anyday anytime.
You got fed that by Sky News when it's obvious nothing can be verified. Na wa oh
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by uplawal(f): 3:26pm On Mar 20, 2011
I and Bechex have been following this thing seriously just like we are with them in Libya ni

Unlike some African devils here just talking anyhow

GO WEST,May Allah use them to grant victory to the Libyans,amin.

Even God hates oppression and injustice

Who is Gaddaffi to be saying "no mercy" when God himself is merciful,

Gaddaffi is donefor,God will not have merciful on whoever does not have mercy on fellow human being
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by uplawal(f): 3:29pm On Mar 20, 2011
@jay-bee,

The bolded is not made up
The troops carried attack on kids in their homes
I saw it life and direct,Al-Jazeera and Presstv
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by jaybee3(m): 3:33pm On Mar 20, 2011
I do get your point, but my advice is don't be too fast at jumping on the west's propaganda.


uplawal:

@jay-bee,

The bolded is not made up
The troops carried attack on kids in their homes
I saw it life and direct,Al-Jazeera and Presstv
seeing something life and direct implies that you were actually present when the attrocities were been committed.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by belabela: 3:39pm On Mar 20, 2011
African Union is a joke. When the 15 countries voted on the UN resolution the 3 African countries represented vote in favour. Nigeria, Gabon and South African voted in favour of the current use of force in Libya.

It is sad that the West has once again deceived the world using media propaganda to destroy another sovereign country. BBC reported yesterday that 75% of Libyans still support Gaddafi but hope that many would switch side once the military intervention intensifies.  UN should please stop all these violence by asking for ceasefire instead of firing more shots. A Libyan has the choice to support whoever he likes whether it's Gaddafi or opposition. The case where the UN takes sides only makes it look like some are more Libyan than the other depending on whose side they are.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by OJOnuh: 3:46pm On Mar 20, 2011
bechex:

Well, I believe everyone has his own opinion on what is happening in Libya, but some facts need to be ironed out,
1. The Libyan People held peacefull protest againt their President
2. Ghadaffi initiated attacks on his people, killing a lot of them using Millitary means including airstrikes against peacefull protesters.
3. The People started an armed revolt against him and he threatened to punish them. He said he will 'have no mercy'

The question we should ask ourseleves is that what would we do if we were in the shoes of the UN. After pleading with someone to implement a ceasefire, and he promises to ceasefire but ample evidence shows that he is still shelling his people.With the imminent slaughter of innocent people, what do you expect the UN to do, what would u do if you were in the shoes of the UN.

The issue of Bosnia, Zimbabwe or Rwanda should not be an issue here. if you can convince yourself that you would sit and do nothing in this case then u can criticize the UN.

I really want to appreciate you for bringing out these facts. It clearly shows that you are following the not just the Libyan crisis but what is happening all around the Arab Nation. It is also important to not that the people of Libya and the Arab League that first called  NU intervention. Allow Him to kill his people in the name of sovereignty. In 1994 the world was accused for the genocide in Ruwanda not because it was responsible for the killings but because it did not intervene when it sould have intervened. The man is inhuman. He called his people protesting peacefully as terrorist. In my opinion is a long awaited response.

Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by justwise(m): 3:49pm On Mar 20, 2011
African What? Do they have any moral right? Group of useless human beings.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by Solozzo(m): 3:51pm On Mar 20, 2011
bechex:

Well, I believe everyone has his own opinion on what is happening in Libya, but some facts need to be ironed out,
1. The Libyan People held peacefull protest againt their President
2. Ghadaffi initiated attacks on his people, killing a lot of them using Millitary means including airstrikes against peacefull protesters.
3. The People started an armed revolt against him and he threatened to punish them. He said he will 'have no mercy'

The question we should ask ourseleves is that what would we do if we were in the shoes of the UN. After pleading with someone to implement a ceasefire, and he promises to ceasefire but ample evidence shows that he is still shelling his people.With the imminent slaughter of innocent people, what do you expect the UN to do, what would u do if you were in the shoes of the UN.

The issue of Bosnia, Zimbabwe or Rwanda should not be an issue here. if you can convince yourself that you would sit and do nothing in this case then u can criticize the UN.

I rest my case

Well put, Bechex. Thanks for being  so forthright. It is said that evil prospers because good men did nothing
So what to do when a mad psychopathic ruler threatens and massacres his own people who were simply asking for a change of leadership of forty years of oppression and suffering. If you criticise the UN on this issue then shame on that person who has shown lack of compassion on fellow Africans, and would sit idly and watch evil reign supreme.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by Limaoscar: 3:55pm On Mar 20, 2011
AU as usual is a tooth-less bulldog and ofcourse Ghaddafi has their number so they can't even dare. All these late muscle-flexing playing interventionist is just political so people will say they at least learnt their voice. embarassed embarassed angry angry
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by OJOnuh: 3:56pm On Mar 20, 2011
frican Union demands 'immediate' halt to Libya attacks AFP – A Libyan woman shouts slogans against strongman Moamer Kadhafi during a demonstration in front of the …
– Sat Mar 19, 9:55 pm ET

NOUAKCHOTT (AFP) – The African Union's panel on Libya Sunday called for an "immediate stop" to all attacks after the United States, France and Britain launched military action against Moamer Kadhafi's forces.

After a more than four-hour meeting in the Mauritanian capital, the body also asked Libyan authorities to ensure "humanitarian aid to those in need," as well as the "protection of foreigners, including African expatriates living in Libya."

It underscored the need for "necessary political reforms to eliminate the causes of the present crisis" but at the same time called for "restraint" from the international community to avoid "serious humanitarian consequences."

The panel also announced a meeting in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa on March 25, along with representatives from the Arab League, the Organisation of Islamic Conference, the European Union and the United Nations to "put in place a mechanism for consultation and concerted action" to resolve the Libyan crisis.

The AU committee on Libya is composed of five African heads of state. But the Nouakchott meeting was only attended by the presidents of Mauritania, Mali and Congo. South Africa and Uganda were represented by ministers.

The committee said it had been unable to get international permission to visit Tripoli on Sunday but did not elaborate.

Libyan generosity and Moamer Kadhafi's role in the creation of the African Union could explain the continental cautious stand, experts said.

The AU was born in the 1999 Sirte Declaration, named after a summit hosted by Kadhafi in his hometown on the Libyan coast.

The declaration said its authors felt inspired by Kadhafi's "vision for a strong and united Africa."

"The AU as an organisation has benefited significantly from Kadhafi's wealth," said Fred Golooba Mutebi of the Institute of Social Research at Kampala's Makerere University.

The pan-African body has taken a firmer stance on three west African crises: most recently Ivory Coast and previously Guinea and Niger.

Handouts aside, Libya has invested billions of dollars in sub-Saharan Africa.

It has interests in more than two dozen African countries, while its petroleum refining and distribution unit Oil Libya has interests in at least as many.


The African Union had spoken like Africans, full of corruption, greed, selfishness and had exhibited a high level of foolishness. The action of African Union clearly shows while the people of Ruwanda, Liberia, Burundi, Seria Leon and so on massacred themselves when the international world refused to intervene on time how has the AU been able to solve the Ivory Coast crisis? and Gbabo has started killing his people, if not for the intervention of the same UN. Is it because Gaddafi pivoted the forming of the AU that he should be allowed to kill his own people? Oil or no oil it was a right thing to do. The same thing was done in kosovo, Iraq
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by babaowo: 3:59pm On Mar 20, 2011
@deji.ariyo u've seen it all westerner don't fight for nothing,they are the one who sponspor opposition also just to get entrace,
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by tony451: 4:00pm On Mar 20, 2011
I don't think Al-Jazeera is a Western network is it? If you don't trust western news networks then watch Al-Jazeera here http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker.

This AU panel that is coming out with this nonsense is a useless body. This is the min reason Africa is underdeveloped. You see someone killing his people, threatening NO MERCY against his OWN PEOPLE, bombing unarmed protesters and all they can do is form committees and beg Qaddafi to respect human rights? How is that going to change anything? How is that going to save the lives of the Libyans in Misrata and Benghazi? Yes the West might be motivated by oil, but I fail completely to understand how THIS PARTICULAR ACTION they are taking isn't altogether positive. This crisis is about Libya in the here and now, so talking about the UN inaction in other conflicts long past or  in other regions of the world is another discussion entirely and only ignores the fact that Qaddafi is on his way to committing Mass Murder and has to be stopped. Its like arguing in court that because one man was not thrown in jail yesterday for killing his wife I should be allowed to kill my wife today too?

All these sit-tight African leaders are afraid of is the loss of Libyan investment in their countries and protests starting against them in their own countries. Anyway all will be judged sooner or later.
Re: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by justwise(m): 4:05pm On Mar 20, 2011
babaowo:

@deji.ariyo u've seen it all westerner don't fight for nothing,they are the one[b] who sponspor opposition [/b] also just to get entrace,

At least they are doing something unlike the useless AU, if the West kept quiet dam it, if they do something dam it, what has AU done since this killing started by Ghaddafi ?

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