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Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 10:42pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
NewsApr 5, 2011 By Samuel Oyadongha Yenagoa – The Federal Government, yesterday, said it would build new towns in the 36 states of the federation. The move, the Federal Government, said, was aimed at depopulating over populated cities and create room for the construction of new houses in a well planned and serviced environment. Speaking at the ground breaking ceremony of the N2.46bn Okaka Phase II Housing Estate funded by the Federal Mortgage Bank of Nigeria, FMBN, in Yenagoa, the Minister of Lands, Housing and Urban Development, Mr. Nduese Essien, assured the people of Bayelsa State of the preparedness of President Goodluck Jonathan to right the wrongs of the past. The Minister who said the Federal Government was aware of the huge housing problems facing the people of the state, assured that government was committed to addressing it headlong. “We are aware of the housing problem facing the people of the state and we are committed to addressing them headlong,” he said. In the course of the year, we will build a new city near Yenagoa. “This effort is intended to depopulate the already over populated city and create room for the construction of new houses in a well planned and serviced environment. This same arrangement will be replicated in the 36 states of the federation.” http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/04/fg-to-build-new-towns-in-36-states/ |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by PhysicsMHD(m): 10:59pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
I'm not sure this is a good idea. It's good that they're trying to fix Bayelsa, but I don't see how this won't be just a waste of money in most of the other states in the federation. Who says the other 35 states all have one "overpopulated" city? Ibadan, Lagos,Kano, and a few others might be overpopulated, but in general, I don't think this is true for most of the Nigerian states. Also, what level of infrastructure will these new towns have? If they make these new cities into paradises, then there will definitely be less congestion and people will flock there, but if there is not much commercial/economic activity and investment in the new cities by private (non-governmental) individuals and businesses, the whole thing will be a white elephant project. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by nduchucks: 11:04pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
A whole bunch of boondoggle projects in the making. May Buhari kill these projects. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 11:07pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
PhysicsMHD: First, it is probably a bad idea for the reasons you stated (and other reasons). But even if it were a good one, it shouldn't be the purview of the FG It should be done by the states in collaboration with private investors. The more disturbing thing to me about all this is that it seems GEJ is a centralist, top-down sort of guy. I don't like that at all. I want Nigeria to become more federalized, not more centralized. States less dependent on the FG, not more. He should be talking about shrinking the FG, not making its influence bigger. I'm a bit annoyed. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 11:09pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
Why should the federal government be the ones building towns Why dont our FG understand the role of an FG in a federal system? Why do we have LGs and private developers? Its bad enough that Nigeria's FG does not have better things to do with than to be poking its nose in something that's better handled at the local level and by private entrepreneurs Ours is the only FG in the world that runs secondary schools, primary health centers,digs boreholes etc. Its just an opportunity for them to steal via bogus white elephants!! |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Kobojunkie: 11:11pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
I don't believe this is an idea that needs to be thought up at this stage in our development! |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Ibime(m): 11:13pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
GEJ specialises in digging up extravagant projects so he and his boys can eat. That was his style in Bayelsa and that's his style now. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 11:18pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
ekt_bear: Are we in a communist state where everything has to be done by soviet style centralized planning What happened to local officials addressing local problems or property developers filling those identified gaps by developing suburban estates?? Why does a minister from faraway Abuja want to solve a "problem" in Yenagoa |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Beaf: 11:19pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
They are building housing estates, not towns. The Minister is just exagerating. It isn't even the FG doing the building directly: Speaking at the ground breaking ceremony of the N2.46bn Okaka Phase II Housing Estate funded by the Federal Mortgage Bank of Nigeria, FMBN, in Yenagoa, the Minister of Lands, Housing and Urban Development, Mr. Nduese Essien, assured the people of Bayelsa State of the preparedness of President Goodluck Jonathan to right the wrongs of the past. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 11:22pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
@kalokalo: I think military rule might have ruined the minds of our politicians. Militaries by their nature must be centralized, socialistic, etc. Nigeria by its multi-ethnic nature needs to be run in a decentralized manner, if we want it to succeed. A wiser, more visionary leader would be thinking about how he could empower the states and LGs, and use them as engines for growth. GEJ instead seems to prefer this top-down approach. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 11:31pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
^^^^ You are right Dapo. Our national psyche has been ruined by the long years of military rule. As it is in Nigeria, states and LGs are just political appendages of the FG. They make monthly trips to Abuja to share money instead of adequately assessing their residents of taxes as is done in civilized climes. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Kobojunkie: 11:31pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
Hmm . . . so this is a case of the Federal Government trying to take credit for an idea that is run and funded by a Private entity then? Isn't FMBN a CBN Bank? |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 11:36pm On Apr 05, 2011 |
Have they quickly forgotten the airports that will be built in each state?(GEJ) Now we should be looking forward to 36 new towns? (FG) Seriously, what is Nigeria's priority and are those 2 aforementioned "promises" included in our goals? |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by seal777(m): 12:03am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Have u ever heard GEJ promise nigerians true federalism where in the south south and other regions wil be the better for it?, he cant because that will take away loads of avenue to make money for him and his cronies. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Beaf: 12:25am On Apr 06, 2011 |
seal777: It is better for non-SS people to worry about their own areas, than for them to cry us crocodile tears in Hausa, Fulani or any other non-SS language. GEJ has promised even more than true federalism and we've heard it. He isn't like Buhari that talks glibly of true federalism, but can't even grasp its simplest concepts; the man promises true federalism, yet says the FG under him will keep full control of PHCN and be 100% in charge of building all power plants (he didn't even do the math to see the impossibility). |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Kobojunkie: 3:47am On Apr 06, 2011 |
kalokalo: What a load of bull! . . . how in the world did you surmise this has to do with the NATIONAL psyche or whatever you call it?. . . that the nincompoops in power only look for ways to score brownie points by making silly promises which they are famous for never delivering on does not make their psyche a national one . . . |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Kilode1: 4:18am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Ibime: ekt_bear: Nuff said. ndu_chucks: |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by fstranger3(m): 4:26am On Apr 06, 2011 |
ekt_bear: You dont become a federalist state overnight. Calling GEJ a centralist is a lil unfair, we really dont know what he believes in. Nigeria is still a welfare state. Every developmental project is carried out with oil money that flows from the CBN, nothing more, nothing else. Waiting for the private sector to do this? it may never happen. PhysicsMHD: Obviously, you are overlooking the motive here, and unfortunately, something like this could only come from someone who havent spent a lot of time in Nigeria. Look, there is nothing better than this initiative from the government. The ordinary Nigerian is industrious and resourceful, private investors or not, this initiative by the government is bound to be a success, that is if they are really serious with it; much more grandeur things have been promised in the past that were never delivered. Hope this is not another empty promise as my e-wife, Kobojunkie, calmly articulated It wont be a white elephant project because if it is done simultaneously in all the states, unlike in the past where they do it in selected places like IB, Lag, PH etc, it would relieve the rebound-pressure big cities like Lagos and other big cities hitherto would have had to deal with. If people rush to this new 'paradise,' business has no option but to follow, either via small business people from the people residing in this new paradise or from large/national business chain . Business almost always follow the people, not the other way round. When people are attracted to this places, business follows, and more people follow and the cycle goes on, relieving the pressure on the former places. However, in the past, people from other places/states almost always take the place of the people who moved from the former congested places in those selected states, thereby defeating the reasoning behind the initial de-congestion plan. But with this new policy of widespread de-congestion, across the 36 states, you'd expect, hopefully, a more lasting and more successful de-congestion plan. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by fstranger3(m): 4:41am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Ileke-IdI: Cant you see that both are different arms on the same agenda? They are both the same, but different wordings, I guess. A |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Kobojunkie: 4:44am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Ileke-IdI: Remember the floating city promise? Jonathan Plans Floating Cities In Niger Delta |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 5:14am On Apr 06, 2011 |
ROTFLMAO!! OMG An actual "Floating" city was also proposed? I'm not even going to ask if they've planned out a budget for this "floating city". . . . because I dont want to hear that the proposal is inside the national garbage amongst other promises. "Floating City". O ma se o! |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 5:16am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Floating city = GEJ smoking some bad ganja |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 5:16am On Apr 06, 2011 |
fstranger3: Lol seems like it. So I guess those 36 new towns are being built for the 36 new airports or are the airports themselves the "new towns"? oga o. ori n fo mi sha. ekt_bear:lol |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 5:18am On Apr 06, 2011 |
@fstranger: But why would one choose to live in these cities? For you to move somewhere, there has to be job, no? It is actually business and economic opportunity which drive the movement of people, not vice versa. If you construct a new city in the middle of nowhere in Adamawa (an already not-very-populated-state), why on earth would people move there? Anyway, as we've learned from the Soviet Union and other examples, ideas like this never work out |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by fstranger3(m): 5:45am On Apr 06, 2011 |
ekt_bear: For a plethora of reasons: Cheaper housing courtesy of government subsidy Access to better food from fresh harvests right in your neighborhood, not to talk of spending less on food. More secure neighborhood; a luxury WRT to the high crime rate in most cities. This you'd accept is a biggie. At-least anyone who has lived in Lagos would understand Better air Vs. the Polluted air, from second hand 'molues' and '18 seaters,' that has now become the bane of most cities in Nigeria, especially Lagos, Ibadan and other big cities. Better environment to raise kids; you have more control over who influences your kid. Adequate shelter from the influences of Area boys and girls (Another biggie if you know how the environment influence the proper upbringing of a child) Amongst other things. Simply stated, the standard of life would be better in this new towns. It is actually business and economic opportunity which drive the movement of people, not vice versa. I agree with you. By this initiative, the governmental is fast tracking the process. This initiative reminds me of Ikorodu. Ikorodu used to be a ghost town in Lagos. No one wanted to go live there, but once government started selling plots land to people at very cheap price, people moved. First to move where the middle class people, your lawyer, doctor, engineer, banker etc,. And, in order to cash in on the promise of the new town your regular 'iya eleran' 'vulganizer, iya n worobo' and the rest started moving in. What you have today is a vibrant city, safe and booming with all the amenities necessary for daily living within reach So in a way, the government would start the process, which inevitably would provide opportunity for small business people, which then would attract more people, creating more opportunities, which would then attract more people and the cycle goes on. Here I am hinging the success of the town on the enduring entrepreneurship spirit of the ordinary Nigerian. All that is needed is a lot of small businesses here and there, national chains would come in due time. If you construct a new city in the middle of nowhere in Adamawa (an already not-very-populated-state), why on earth would people move there? See above! Have you ever been to Mubi, Adamawa? I have people in my family who have lived there and it is not as sparse as you trying to make it. Please, pick a different city Anyway, as we've learned from the Soviet Union and other examples, ideas like this never work out Really? Any link? |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 5:51am On Apr 06, 2011 |
^^^ When femistranger wants to use his common sense, he does. And when he does, one becomes confused on one's opinion of him. Reminds me of SEFAGO sha. Where is that boy sef? |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Pweety4me(f): 5:53am On Apr 06, 2011 |
^Dat EDIOT! |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 5:55am On Apr 06, 2011 |
fstranger3:How do I get from this new town to the job I have in the old town? And if you say, "gov't should do public transport too". . . well, why the heck doesn't the government focus on transport alone, then let people live in the equivalent of the suburbs? That is how things happen here. You might work in Houston, but live out in Stafford, Texas and commute. But it isn't like the FG is the one developing residential property in Stafford; private industry is. That was done by the state government though? Not the federal? That is my major point. . . this isn't a bad idea. . . but NOT what the FG should be doing! Just stuff I learned from econ and history class high school. . . just Google "planned economy failure" and you'll come up with plenty of links. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by Nobody: 5:56am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Pweety4me: I'm not getting into this one with you two. I dey out! |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by ektbear: 6:02am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Basically, I think the FG should take care of the following tasks: 1) National defense 2) Currency, monetary policy 3) Interstate roads 4) Things like NAFDAC, other agencies that make sense to have uniform standards for 5) A few other things I'm forgetting right now. . . And leave pretty much everything else to the states or private industry. |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by fstranger3(m): 6:05am On Apr 06, 2011 |
Ileke-IdI: Where did you get that from? Cant be more wrong!lol |
Re: Fg To Build New Towns In 36 States - Mr. Nduese Essien by EkoIle1: 6:07am On Apr 06, 2011 |
What about just building roads and fixing the death traps killing Nigerians everyday? These useless people are definitely walking on their brains. |
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