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|Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 9:04pm On Jun 16, 2011|
Tune your channel to BBC one now!
interesting documentary on how citizens from different countries, Nigeria Afghanistan etc struggle to get to Uk using fake documents, desert trips etc
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by justwise(m): 9:09pm On Jun 16, 2011|
Watching it, very interesting indeed
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 9:15pm On Jun 16, 2011|
chai! see our yansh for TV oo
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by dayokanu(m): 9:17pm On Jun 16, 2011|
Dem don expose Busybody ooooo
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by justwise(m): 9:17pm On Jun 16, 2011|
Disgrace, did u hear what the immigration officer told the reporter about flight coming in from Nigeria?
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by segzeybaba(m): 9:19pm On Jun 16, 2011|
is that really a Nigerian accent sha? i dont think the alleged Nigerian undercover is even a Nigerian
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 9:27pm On Jun 16, 2011|
^ hes NOT A NIGERIAN. Hes got his british passport but came undercover to film the documentary.
See as the guy jump queue after giving the immigration officer N18,000 chei
Genuine Passport with fake details as dem no dey verify details na
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 9:31pm On Jun 16, 2011|
see as the undercover reporter carry big belly like you.
what did he say
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by justwise(m): 10:05pm On Jun 16, 2011|
She was saying that they always keep an eye on a flight from Nigeria, they were actually trained to look out for fake Nigerian passports.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by ada24: 10:19pm On Jun 16, 2011|
I was in tears when that woman from Congo gave her story - trying To Molest a 4 year old girl - what kind of animals are allowed to roam this earth.
y the upset about the comment (at heathrow) we all know that any flight coming in from certain countries are checked more vigorously for drugs, not saying its right but if we fixed our country then people wouldn't target Nigerian flights at passport control
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by muami(m): 11:11pm On Jun 16, 2011|
The documentary really calls for a sober reflection. It got me wondering why leaders ( and in the Afghan's case - militants), would make thier countries so undesirable to the point that thie citizens would prefer to die or be subjected to the most inhuman treatment just to escape from the own country. So sad
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 10:01am On Jun 17, 2011|
It's so sad to see the length People go to get into UK? They travel illegally (Fake documents, desert trips etc) and risk their lifes with their innocent kids passing thru all other EU countries Just to get into UK? What's so special in UK sef?
See the Agfan who paid 8k Pounds per person just to get into uk? (How many pple in uk have such amount as savings not bank loans o lol) uk dat is not sure he will survive sef! dey believe uk is flowing with milk and honey
its a shame.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by justwise(m): 10:40am On Jun 17, 2011|
busybody20:Some who re lucky to get into the UK after going through hell and paying so much will still get deported. I felt sick watching that
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by justwise(m): 10:44am On Jun 17, 2011|
I couldn't bring myself to watch the whole of that part, i would want to know what happened to that woman, whether she managed to leave Morocco with her kids or not.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by Dis Guy: 11:53am On Jun 17, 2011|
^^ I stopped watching it when that woman was telling her story
Some of them have spent everything they don't even have money to go back home!!
I was wondering if these guys actually know what/how it is in the UK, It seems they had this Eldorado vision, they kept talking about schooling and at least getting a roof over their head, their human rights being respected etc (partly true)
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by justwise(m): 12:08pm On Jun 17, 2011|
Well. , i don't know about now but couple of yrs ago i knew of an asylum seeker who was allowed to attend college full time and was given a house, paid £30 weekly while her case was still with Home Office but was not allowed to work. I think things have changed now, getting in illegally is even harder now let alone claiming asylum.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by armyofone(f): 2:54pm On Jun 17, 2011|
how can i watch it?
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by reindeer: 2:57pm On Jun 17, 2011|
The most interesting was one of the Afghans trying to run unto a trailer for a hitchhike and when asked what he tells people back home, he said he lies all the time. Tells them hes been given a room and he has money and life is all good!
I think these documentaries should be re-aired in some countries like Nigeria, sme places in North africa, Somalia and Afghanistan. . .the desperation is sick.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by Sibe007(m): 3:01pm On Jun 17, 2011|
Am watching it now.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 3:02pm On Jun 17, 2011|
The migrants risking death to break into Britain
By Evan Davis
It was about two years ago. I was returning from a weekend trip to France and found myself in a long queue of traffic on a dual carriageway just outside the port of Calais.
There right in front of us were dozens of young men walking between the vehicles and opening the backs of trucks to clamber inside.
They were evidently mostly Afghans, taking advantage of the fact the traffic was moving slowly to try anything to sneak a ride into the UK.
All this less than 30 miles from Kent.
The children ask me, is this really Europe? Is this Europe where we have no place to sleep?"
Zarminah, Afghan migrant in Athens
For me, any thoughts of disapproval at the unruly behaviour I was witnessing evaporated at the sight of a teenage boy cowering dangerously at the top of a lorry driver's cab under the back canopy.
He was not a trouble-maker. He was obviously petrified but still so desperate to get on to a car ferry to Britain, he was going to take the risk.
I felt like stopping the car to ask him why. What journey had he taken to get here and where did he think it might end? What is so good about our country that people would go to such lengths?
It was largely the vivid memory of that scene which made me eager to be involved in Panorama's examination of the economic migrants who risk everything to try and reach Britain illegally.
It is a chance to tell the migration story from the point of view of those trying to get into our country, rather than those of us lucky enough to be here already.
Journalist Shoaib Sharifi followed the journey from Kabul where he met fellow Afghans as they set out to reach the EU in Greece.
And in Africa, fellow journalist Kassim Kayira began in Lagos in Nigeria and travelled up through Africa to Morocco, a route taken by many African migrants fleeing poverty.
FIND OUT MORE
Evan Davis presents Panorama: Breaking into Britain
Thursday, 16 June
BBC One at 9pm then available in the UK on the BBC iPlayer.
The perspective from the UK and European border agencies on how they address the growing numbers desperate to reach the EU was my remit.
In Kabul, Shoaib met Fakhrudin, a father of seven who had decided to sent his eldest son to Europe, relying on the illegal people smugglers to help 18-year-old Sear reach Britain. Such is the demand to get out that it is one of Afghanistan's few growth industries.
"I'm doing this only so that my son can have a better life," Fakhrudin said, adding that he knew he was putting his son in harm's way for the gamble of that better life.
There are no guarantees of success and the price - just to get as far as Greece - is £4,700. For an extra £2,600, the smugglers tell Afghans they will get them as far as France. A further £700 will get you to London, they are told.
For those who do make it across the border with Iran and on to Turkey, the last stage before reaching Greece is the Evros river.
Perhaps the saddest revelation was the indecency of the reception in the European Union.
It is in Greece that many Afghan migrants' illusions of Europe as a welcoming place are quickly shattered.
Many have run out of money and find themselves sleeping rough on the streets of Athens with no hope of moving on to western Europe.
One young couple, Abdullah and Zarminah, made the trip with their three young children. They spend hours walking the children around the local squares to tire them out so that they will fall asleep on the pavement behind shrubs. They sleep in shifts in order to be able to watch over the children.
African migrants pay smugglers to help them risk their lives to cross the Sahara
"The children ask me, is this really Europe? Is this Europe where we have no place to sleep?" said Zarminah, who relies on a local charity to feed the children once a day.
Kassim Kayira meets migrants stranded along the route from Nigeria to the Mediterranean who have also run out of money to move on from Agadez in Niger.
They tell of being extorted at every turn, by passport control at borders and police along the way to people smugglers demanding thousands to take them on the dangerous lorry trip across the Sahara desert to Morocco. The former route via Libya has been abandoned amid that country's civil war.
For the women who have risked everything, the dangers are ever more grave. They described to Kassim the smugglers who demand sex in exchange for their passage, even if they have already paid for their trip. Many make it no further than the brothels of Africa.
Kassim said: "I was thinking, this could be my sister, this is someone's mother, you know, this is someone's daughter. Their parents are waiting. If they call back home, what are they going to tell their parents?"
Unfortunately what Shoaib, Kassim and I learn is that those scenes I witnessed in Calais two years ago are just a slice of the greater problem.
Shoaib Sharifi met penniless Afghans sleeping rough on the streets of Athens
The risks the migrants take and the suffering they endure on their journeys are only matched by the resourcefulness they exhibit to travel thousands of miles unaided and their determination to succeed that is reinforced with every failed attempt.
All for what? Most of the journeys are futile.
Economic migrants are too often trapped without money or documents, unable to get into their destination of choice in Western Europe and penniless to turn around, give up and go home.
I defy anyone to watch the programme and not think that Greece and Italy badly need help in dealing with undocumented arrivals - a situation made even worse by the flood of arrivals fleeing violence in north Africa.
At the heart of this investigation lies a simple dilemma - to tolerate the suffering on our own continent is unconscionable - but to alleviate the suffering by simply opening the door might attract vastly more people than we can realistically cope with humanely.
We meanwhile are trying to maintain complete mobility across borders for the population of the rich world while trying to build ever higher walls to deny that mobility to the world's poor.
I am sorry to say our examination of the issues does not deliver a solution.
Perhaps there is not one to be had.
Panorama: Breaking into Britain, BBC One, Thursday, 16 June at 2100BST and then available in the UK on the BBC iPlayer.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by AjanleKoko: 3:20pm On Jun 17, 2011|
The Brits seem to be really fixated on this immigrant thing sha.
Make dem go rest jare.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by jay bee(m): 3:29pm On Jun 17, 2011|
AjanleKoko:UK being a welfare state can't simply afford the projected population growth rate.
Squeeze everywhere hence the constant Immigration headlines/front pages of political campaigns
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by paraphase(m): 3:31pm On Jun 17, 2011|
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by Dis Guy: 3:35pm On Jun 17, 2011|
The UK is just the size of Texas!
They have a duty to protect people within their domain, where will the resources come from?
People from totally different cultural and religious background knocking at the borders competing
for the ever decreasing jobs
Even immigrants in the UK are complaining!
Canada, Australia and US are lucky they are somewhat cut off
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by AjanleKoko: 3:36pm On Jun 17, 2011|
Well, whose fault is that?
I'll bet that for every illegal immigrant they catch, ten others prolly give 'em the slip.
They should get off the air and chase the illegals.
Protect people? You make it sound like some sort of alien invasion, no pun intended.
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by Dis Guy: 3:36pm On Jun 17, 2011|
What about what we see on NTA and TVC everyday?
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by Dis Guy: 3:38pm On Jun 17, 2011|
The illegals come under different shades, running from persecution, family etc etc and they have human rights and Britain is a sucker for human rights
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by busybody20: 3:40pm On Jun 17, 2011|
who da hell is posting jargons? Go and tell dat to the WINDS!
I remember a nairalander I cant rem his name i think bandiejay or so, narrated his ordeal from Nigeria all in bid to get to Uk illegal thru the desert and posted his pix too. So he made that story up too? nonsense
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by jay bee(m): 3:44pm On Jun 17, 2011|
AjanleKoko:Good question but we can't really blame the UK for upholding human rights regardless to the detriment of her own citizens
I think the message from the awareness campaign is the hopefuls should really think twice if the Journey is really worth it.
why they risk up to £8K to a country that can deport them right after stepping into the land is beyond comprehension
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by AjanleKoko: 3:51pm On Jun 17, 2011|
Well, they look at potential returns, a good life, possible Brit citizenship in the future, all of which 8k can't buy.
Why are middle class Nigerians spending upwards of $10k to have babies in the United States?
For people who are willing to spend that kind of money to relocate, if I was Cameron, I would 'organize something' for them.
As per the jobs issue. Don't blame me, but I hardly run into any Brit working anywhere anytime I'm in London. It's always strictly Indians, Pakis right from immigration, and even driving the cabs, and Eastern Europeans at all the corner shops and McDonalds. You hardly run into any 'omo onile'. I thought they were done with workin'
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by Dis Guy: 3:55pm On Jun 17, 2011|
Protect people? You make it sound like some sort of alien invasion, no pun intended.
very close lol you should see these detention centres in libya, Italy, sangarte thousands upon thousands
Zimbabweans, Afghans, Coptic Egyptians, Libyans, Homosexuals, Southerners residing in Northern Nigeria. they can easily claim asylum
I just wonder why they never settle in France, italy, Spain, or some countries closer to their homeland
|Re: Breaking Into Britain - Documentary on BBC one by AjanleKoko: 3:59pm On Jun 17, 2011|
France is a poo.ty place anyway. No jobs, and everything is still pretty much owned by government. Always strike today strike tomorrow.
Spain is two steps worse than France, and their economy just went to shyt in the last couple of years.
Italy, well, you just said it yourself. Italy just dey lock all man up.
I am kind of sympathetic to immigrants. I can't help feeling it's just not right for some people to live so comfortably, while others live like animals.
A good analogy is the rich man poor man conundrum in Nigeria. Rich man moves to Lekki to get away from ghetto Lagos. Soon he realises he needs maids, cooks, stewards, drivers, and servants. When word gets out that he's looking, squatter camps begin to spring up all around Lekki, populated by seekers of these crumb jobs.
After a while, rich man drives out of his mansion and is taken aback to see the extent to which squatter camps have grown. So he calls in the MOPOL unit to burn down the shanties and chase the vermin out. But wait . . . his driver, cook, maid, steward, servant . . . they all live there!
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