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Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by aloyemeka1: 12:56am On Jun 17, 2011
[size=14pt]Lagos PDP members adamant on Aganga[/size]
President Goodluck Jonathan has dropped five controversial would-be ministers. The Senate is expected to get the list tomorrow.
The President’s decision was based on security reports on the nominees.

They include two candidates linked to the ongoing N9billion scam in the House of Representatives for which ex-Speaker Dimeji Bankole is being tried.
Three others were implicated in the defiance of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) House members on zoning, which led to the election of Speaker Aminu Tambuwal. The party preferred Mrs Mulikat Akande-Adeola.

The three candidates were alleged to have been part of the revolt in the House against the party.
The five nominees, whose names were kept under wraps yesterday, are being replaced.
A source, who spoke in confidence, said: "The President has said that no nominee will be allowed to go through or be presented to the Senate, if he is being investigated for anything.
"Five of such nominees have already been dropped. Two are linked to the allegations against ex-Speaker Dimeji Bankole; three worked against the party to ensure the emergence of Tambuwal."
It was gathered last night that members of the Lagos State chapter of the PDP and Lagos indigenes were adamant in their opposition to the return of the immediate past Minister of Finance, Dr. Olusegun Aganga.


They alleged that Aganga is not an indigene of Lagos and cannot take the slot meant for the state or represent the Southwest.
The party members and some members of Indigenous Association of Lagos, led by a retired Justice, are expected to seek audience with the President on the matter.
A source said: "Our position is that Aganga is from Sabongida-Ora in Edo State, as far as records on his parents are concerned. He has no basis to claim that he is from Lagos State.
"We bear no grudge against Aganga because he is eminently qualified as a Nigerian and a technocrat. But he cannot usurp the slot meant for Lagos State. The President is free to choose him as his nominee from Edo State.

"So, this time around, we want an indigene of Lagos as the ministerial candidate for the state. Aganga cannot even represent the Southwest.

"We want the President to appreciate our position and make amend accordingly. That is why we are seeking audience with the President on the peculiar challenge facing Lagos."
It could not be immediately ascertained whether the President will accede to the case of the Lagos indigenes.


A Presidency source confirmed that Aganga is one of the returnees to the cabinet. But he declined comments on the state he is to represent.
The official said: "The President has the constitutional prerogative to constitute his cabinet. No one can teach him who to choose or not.
"The baseline is that all the nominees must be bonafide Nigerians."


Section 147 of the 1999 Constitution (as amended), empowers the President to constitute his cabinet to reflect the Federal Character Principle.
The Section says: "There shall be such offices of Ministers of the Government of the Federation as may be established by the President.


"Any appointment to the office of Minister of the Government of the Federation shall, if the nomination of any person to such office is confirmed by the Senate, be made by the President,
"Any appointment under subsection(2) of this section by the President shall be in conformity with the provisions of Section14(3) of this Constitution provided that in giving effect to the provisions aforesaid the President shall appoint at least one Minister from each state, who shall be an indigene of such state."

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/9315-cabinet-president-drops-five-controversial-nominees.html
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by HighChief4(m): 1:04am On Jun 17, 2011
Rubbish!!!
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by aloyemeka1: 1:30am On Jun 17, 2011
Why is it rubbish?. He is not from Lagos state.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by step1: 1:56am On Jun 17, 2011
High_Chief:

Rubbish!!!

How is it rubbish, would you allow a non-indigene to represent your interest.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 2:19am On Jun 17, 2011
Respect the constitution and let an indigene of Lagos State be chosen to represent it.

Aganga can represent Edo State.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by daroz(m): 8:18am On Jun 17, 2011
High_Chief:

Rubbish!!!

yes, real rubbish. How come they are just realizing it now, where were they since?
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by amarilo: 10:36am On Jun 17, 2011
ekt_bear:

Respect the constitution and let an indigene of Lagos State be chosen to represent it.

Aganga can represent Edo State.
Hypocrite, but u support Tinubu to represent lagos.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 11:01am On Jun 17, 2011
^-- The constitution demands that an indigene is chosen as a minister representing a state, yes? So of what relevance is Tinubu or anyone else?
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by aloyemeka1: 11:18am On Jun 17, 2011
amarilo:

Hypocrite, but u support Tinubu to represent lagos.

Is Tinubu not a Lagosian?
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by baksonlee: 11:25am On Jun 17, 2011
Stop dragging Tinubu into all these BS. Tinubu is a bonafide Lagosian, he was adopted by the Mogaji Family.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by AreaFada2: 11:35am On Jun 17, 2011
They should also sack Oba of lagos and much of isaleko as they of Edo origin too.

Of course ethnic bigots will not do their homework before they start arguing this again.

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Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by aloyemeka1: 11:41am On Jun 17, 2011
ekt_bear:

^-- The constitution demands that an indigene is chosen as a minister representing a state, yes? So of what relevance is Tinubu or anyone else?



Is Segun directly from Edo or his ancestors because he may be a Lagos indigene.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by DisGuy: 11:59am On Jun 17, 2011
whats all this rubbish

There are 42 ministerial slots, and 36 states, he can represent the presidents choice
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 12:00pm On Jun 17, 2011
aloy/emeka:

Is Segun directly from Edo or his ancestors because he may be a Lagos indigene.

Directly from Edo. Even born there.


Area-Fada:

They should also sack oba of lagos and much of isaleko as they of Edo origin too.

Of course ethnic bigots will not do their homework before they start arguing this again.

Oba of Lagos's family has been there since 1700s or so (roughly around then is when the Benin Empire sent their expedition.) Or are you suggesting choosing a date before 1700 as the date for ingeneity?

EDIT: Just to be clear, there is this area of Edo State called Akoko-Edo where the folks have Yoruba names and speak Yoruba language. Kind of a border area, from what I understand. Not everyone who bears a Yoruba name is an indigene of the SW zone.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by amarilo: 12:07pm On Jun 17, 2011
If Tinubu is a Lagosian Aganga is a Lagosian too.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Dede1(m): 12:49pm On Jun 17, 2011
The issue that surrounds Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial appointment is the classical example of everything wrong with the cesspit called Nigeria. The opposition to Aganga’s appointment as a minister is a shameful display of tribalism at the apex of Nigerian polity. Olusegun Aganga was born, raised and resides in Lagos therefore can claim an indigene of the state.

It is funny the group of people known to have the insatiable knack to claim anybody is rejecting Aganga. I hope Aganga did not pluck few apples from the exclusive gardens that belong to the so-called owners of the land.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by step1: 12:52pm On Jun 17, 2011
amarilo:

If Tinubu is a Lagosian Aganga is a Lagosian too.

Tinubu is a Lagosian because he is yoruba. How can a yoruba man represent Edo state.

Dede1:

The issue that surrounds Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial appointment is the classical example of everything wrong with the cesspit called Nigeria. The opposition to Aganga’s appointment as a minister is a shameful display of tribalism at the apex of Nigerian polity. Olusegun Aganga was born, raised and resides in Lagos therefore can claim an indigene of the state.

It is funny the group of people known to have the insatiable knack to claim anybody is rejecting Aganga. I hope Aganga did not pluck few apples from the exclusive gardens that belong to the so-called owners of the land.


Ignorance
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 12:59pm On Jun 17, 2011
Being born, raised, and residing in a state is NOT being an indigene of that state. That isn't the definition in Nigeria, or anywhere else in the world (to my knowledge.)

Do you even know what the word indigene means? Dede1, you post very s.tupid things sometimes.

EDIT: Not to mention that Aganga wasn't born in Lagos and arguably wasn't raised there.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by step1: 1:01pm On Jun 17, 2011
ekt_bear:

Being born, raised, and residing in a state is NOT being an indigene of that state. That isn't the definition in Nigeria, or anywhere else in the world (to my knowledge.)

Do you even know what the word indigene means? Dede1, you post very silly things sometimes.

Tell me about it.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by DisGuy: 1:02pm On Jun 17, 2011
Dede1:

The issue that surrounds Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial appointment is the classical example of everything wrong with the cesspit called Nigeria. The opposition to Aganga’s appointment as a minister[b] is a shameful display of tribalism at the apex of Nigerian polity[/b]. Olusegun Aganga was born, raised and resides in Lagos therefore can claim an indigene of the state.

It is funny the group of people known to have the insatiable knack to claim anybody is rejecting Aganga. I hope Aganga did not pluck few apples from the exclusive gardens that belong to the so-called owners of the land.


You mean Lagos PDP right? when did pdp start talking for the whole tribe?

I wonder how accepting people from your side are, lets know the ratio of non 'indigenes' there compared to Lagos or the SW
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 1:22pm On Jun 17, 2011
Dede1:

It is funny the group of people known to have the insatiable knack to claim anybody is rejecting Aganga.

Alright. You decided to go there. Then let me be very, very blunt. Who makes the most noise about indigeneity issues in Nigeria?

Igbos.

Why?

Because most of the places they are from absolutely suck @ss. How many of the Igbos in PHC, Onitsha, Aba, Owerri, Enugu are indigenous to those towns? 90%+ of them are non-indigenes and migrants, yet want to overthrow even the owners of the land.

I remember reading a post someone made about Abia politics, how Ngwa have evidently never held major political power in their own homeland. And rather than anyone feeling bad about this, some non-indigene Igbo dude was mocking them about it!  shocked From governor down to local government chairman, they are powerless in their own homeland.

A relative of mine owns property in PHC. The omo onile's there pretty jealously guard their rights to the land. At first I thought that they behave that way because he is Yoruba, but from what I've later learned, they are even harsher to Igbos.

If you don't like indigeneity laws in Nigeria, then seek to have the constitution changed to have the distinction abolished.

An even better idea is to try to understand why they make sense.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by adejoro75: 1:30pm On Jun 17, 2011
WTF, Olusegun Aganga is a Lagosian and MUST represent that state. Cry babies can go hug a transformer.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Dede1(m): 2:24pm On Jun 17, 2011
Seriously, I do not monkey with imbeciles especially the ones that were born rude. Most people who claim Yoruba and Lagosian, including the foolish pair of step1 and ekt_bear, can not pass the scrutiny for indigene of Lagos State. I do not think the unscrupulous pair holds monopoly on the history of Eko.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 2:28pm On Jun 17, 2011
Hehe. Rude or not, it is what it is. You quite evidently do not understand what the term "indigene" means.

Perhaps best to stick to what you are good at (blowing useless grammar) and avoid speaking about what you don't know.

And a bit amusing to me that now you want to play this "rude" card. There is this saying about people in glass houses. . .
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Katsumoto: 2:44pm On Jun 17, 2011
Dede1:

The issue that surrounds Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial appointment is the classical example of everything wrong with the cesspit called Nigeria. The opposition to Aganga’s appointment as a minister is a shameful display of tribalism at the apex of Nigerian polity. Olusegun Aganga was born, raised and resides in Lagos therefore can claim an indigene of the state.

It is funny the group of people known to have the insatiable knack to claim anybody is rejecting Aganga. I hope Aganga did not pluck few apples from the exclusive gardens that belong to the so-called owners of the land.


What is it with you and Yoruba matters?

You argument is flawed on two counts

1. The decision to have each state represented at the ministerial level was done to ensure fairness to all. If we are to follow your argument, sons of Anambra State who are born all over the country could easily represent those states at the ministerial level. The decision, for all intents and purposes, was for citizens indigenous to states, represent those states and not for outsiders born in those states to represent them.

2. A representative of a state should not be imposed on the state. The people of Lagos are not against Aganga being a minister; they simply do not want to lose their slot while Edo state gains two slots. If Aganga must be a minister, then he must do so on the ticket of Edo state.

Your intentions are not lost on us. Soon, people like you will be clamouring for an Igbo son to represent Lagos state in the near future and you will use Aganga as precedent.

You are always keen for others (Lagos, Western region) to demonstate certain 'unity' by allowing outsiders to represent them when surely, you are yet to demonstrate the same political sophistication in your region/state. Again, Yoruba people are being taken for a ride due to their accommodating nature.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Dede1(m): 5:06pm On Jun 17, 2011
Katsumoto:

What is it with you and Yoruba matters?

You argument is flawed on two counts

1. The decision to have each state represented at the ministerial level was done to ensure fairness to all. If we are to follow your argument, sons of Anambra State who are born all over the country could easily represent those states at the ministerial level. The decision, for all intents and purposes, was for citizens indigenous to states, represent those states and not for outsiders born in those states to represent them.

2. A representative of a state should not be imposed on the state. The people of Lagos are not against Aganga being a minister; they simply do not want to lose their slot while Edo state gains two slots. If Aganga must be a minister, then he must do so on the ticket of Edo state.

Your intentions are not lost on us. Soon, people like you will be clamouring for an Igbo son to represent Lagos state in the near future and you will use Aganga as precedent.

You are always keen for others (Lagos, Western region) to demonstate certain 'unity' by allowing outsiders to represent them when surely, you are yet to demonstrate the same political sophistication in your region/state. Again, Yoruba people are being taken for a ride due to their accommodating nature.


I have good memories about the time spent in Yoruba land.

Pal, let us apply rudimental deduction to the issue of Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial nomination. Who are the people responsible for nominating candidates for ministerial appointment in the current political dispensation in Nigeria? I do not think that every Yoruba person or the so-called indigenes of Lagos State are involved.

If Olusegun Aganga has been adjudged as indigene of Lagos State due to previous appointment as minister, I can resourcefully cite shameful and tribal ambition as the current instigator to the political noise against Aganga’s ministerial quest.

I am of the view you understood the connotation-“citizens indigenous to states”. Please remove any element of tribalism when deciphering the phrase.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by jason123: 5:14pm On Jun 17, 2011
Katsumoto:

What is it with you and Yoruba matters?

You argument is flawed on two counts

1. The decision to have each state represented at the ministerial level was done to ensure fairness to all. If we are to follow your argument, sons of Anambra State who are born all over the country could easily represent those states at the ministerial level. The decision, for all intents and purposes, was for citizens indigenous to states, represent those states and not for outsiders born in those states to represent them.

2. A representative of a state should not be imposed on the state. The people of Lagos are not against Aganga being a minister; they simply do not want to lose their slot while Edo state gains two slots. If Aganga must be a minister, then he must do so on the ticket of Edo state.

Your intentions are not lost on us. Soon, people like you will be clamouring for an Igbo son to represent Lagos state in the near future and you will use Aganga as precedent.

You are always keen for others (Lagos, Western region) to demonstate certain 'unity' by allowing outsiders to represent them when surely, you are yet to demonstrate the same political sophistication in your region/state. Again, Yoruba people are being taken for a ride due to their accommodating nature.

You always see through this DEde1 of an A55 hole!!! Kudos!!!

@ Dede1
YOU ARE AN A55!!!!! grin grin grin
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Dede1(m): 9:55pm On Jun 17, 2011
jason123:

You always see through this DEde1 of an A55 hole!!! Kudos!!!

@ Dede1
YOU ARE AN A55!!!!! grin grin grin

I have deadly aversion for deluded Agama Lizard such as you. Granted Nigeria claims to indulge in a system known as democracy, the recent political uproar about Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial nomination is instigated by tribalism period.

I have to pose this question the second time to a jackass such as you. Who are responsible for nominating candidates for ministerial appointment in the current political dispensation in Nigeria? Were the nominators of Olusegun Aganga in his first ministerial duty not privy to the latest phrase- “citizens indigenous to states”?
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Chyz2: 10:11pm On Jun 17, 2011
Katsumoto:

What is it with you and Yoruba matters?

This isn't a "yoruba issue" dumbass, this is a "lagosian issue". If people from ekiti, like dapo, can speak on this matter, then Dede1 can do the same.Get it,buffoon?
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Chyz2: 10:13pm On Jun 17, 2011
You all will be crying later, after you continue to shoot yourselves in the foot, that you all are being marginalized. Well to give you a heads up, you are making it THAT much easy for Goodluck Jonathan to appoint Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as the new Finance Minister! smiley
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by Katsumoto: 10:19pm On Jun 17, 2011
Dede1:


I have good memories about the time spent in Yoruba land.

Pal, let us apply rudimental deduction to the issue of Olusegun Aganga’s ministerial nomination. Who are the people responsible for nominating candidates for ministerial appointment in the current political dispensation in Nigeria?  I do not think that every Yoruba person or the so-called indigenes of Lagos State are involved.

If Olusegun Aganga has been adjudged as indigene of Lagos State due to previous appointment as minister, I can resourcefully cite shameful and tribal ambition as the current instigator to the political noise against Aganga’s ministerial quest.

I am of the view you understood the connotation-“citizens indigenous to states”. Please remove any element of tribalism when deciphering the phrase.


There was opposition to it the first time but it was ignored. Now the people of Lagos State want to correct the wrong. That an injustice (against the indigenous people of Lagos State) was committed the first time does not mean that it can't be corrected. As far as you are concerned, everything is tribalism

Granted the average citizen is not consulted when ministers are chosen but other states have their sons and daughters nominated and appointed as ministers. Why should Lagos be cheated out of that RIGHT? I am sure the representative of your state is from your state. If that is the case, then you have no moral right to accuse others of tribalism just because they want to enjoy the same privilege that you are enjoying in your state.
Re: Olusegun Aganga Is Edo And Cannot Represent Lagos State by ektbear: 10:24pm On Jun 17, 2011
Chyz*:

This isn't a "yoruba issue" dumbass, this is a "lagosian issue". If people from ekiti, like dapo, can speak on this matter, then Dede1 can do the same.Get it,buffoon?

Lmao @ you calling Katsumoto a buffoon. Hard for me to imagine you talking that way to your better.

Anyway, the indigenous people of Lagos are Yoruba. So it is indeed a Yoruba issue. If you don't like that fact, go hug a transformer (autobot or decepticon, your choice)

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