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Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by edoyad(m): 9:21am On Jul 07, 2011
http://indepthafrica.com/nigeria/headlines/obasanjo-would-have-tackled-boko-haram-decisively-–lp/

The Chairman of Labour Party, Chief Dan Nwanyanwu, on Wednesday asked President Goodluck Jonathan to take a decisive action against Boko Haram He said if the fundamentalist Islamic sect had reared its ugly head during the regime of former President Olusegun Obasanjo, the former President would have crushed it. Nwanyanwu, who spoke with journalists in Abuja, also noted that it was unfortunate that Boko Haram could invade the Police Divisional Command in Toro, Bauchi State. He said it was wrong for Jonathan to treat the issue of Boko Haram with levity. He said, “President Jonathan must step out now and act as the President of Nigeria. You see, you don’t treat situations like this with kid gloves.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Afam4eva(m): 9:32am On Jul 07, 2011
That' why I like Obasanjo. He took several decisive actions during his tenure. GEJ is just too weak and laid back to rule an aggressive nation just as Nigeria.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by tollu: 9:34am On Jul 07, 2011
The man aint lying.
Give a mouse a cookie and it asks for a glass of milk. So Jonathan sitting back and allowing this tiny thing that started of as a mite to keep mutating until it becomes a massive monster is indeed very dangerous.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by otokx(m): 9:55am On Jul 07, 2011
OBJ sure had his ways - its good to take a decision either to the left or to the right not dancing in the middle of the pack.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Mobinga: 10:07am On Jul 07, 2011
Yes, he would have crushed them, he's still a criminal.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by jmaine: 11:31am On Jul 07, 2011
We missing something here . .OBJ show of might only strengthened MEND resolve to go ballistic . . .  we all saw what happened afterwards with the chaos they reigned on the state of Nigeria . . . Boko Haram Sect is like a delicate cancer . .Brute force of removal would only lead to dangerous self injury considering the deep religious and political undertone of their actions . . it needs a combine dose of being strong and at the same time being cautious . . more so when the enemy cant be differentiated from the lot . . .
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by chines4(m): 11:59am On Jul 07, 2011
You want another case of Odi, But we still had militants during his tenure, or better still they started during his tenure
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by ezeagu(m): 12:06pm On Jul 07, 2011
He would have just created more martyrs and strengthened Boko Haram's image more.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by DeepSoul(f): 12:07pm On Jul 07, 2011
jmaine:

We missing something here . .OBJ show of might only strengthened MEND resolve to go ballistic . . .

Well said
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by damipaul(m): 12:17pm On Jul 07, 2011
The problem with Nigeria security or the President is not just a lack of decision, it's lack of consistency in following a line of action.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by edoyad(m): 12:26pm On Jul 07, 2011
you say obj's show of force strengthened the resolve of militants ? Ok then, Yaradua gave them amnesty and see the precedent that scenario created. A situation where any armed group can kill law enforcement and other security personnel only to come out and demand that they too be pardoned

jmaine:

We missing something here . .OBJ show of might only strengthened MEND resolve to go ballistic . . . we all saw what happened afterwards with the chaos they reigned on the state of Nigeria . . . Boko Haram Sect is like a delicate cancer . .Brute force of removal would only lead to dangerous self injury considering the deep religious and political undertone of their actions . . it needs a combine dose of being strong and at the same time being cautious . . more so when the enemy cant be differentiated from the lot . . .

better still, gej's policy of carrot and stick still remains the best bet. Finding the balance between negotiation and armed confrontation is the tricky part. You want the militants to know you're strong enough to defeat if need be, but you'd rather have peace based on concessions by both sides
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by agitator: 12:41pm On Jul 07, 2011
ok
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Goldenmeda(m): 12:51pm On Jul 07, 2011
obj is da best, i trust him he tahe no nonsence
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by iz2much: 12:53pm On Jul 07, 2011



Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by agitator: 12:54pm On Jul 07, 2011
I don't just get why people like to lie just to discredit somebody.

kindly read this and tell us if it happened after OBJ's tenure

Chronology of Nigerian Militant attacks

http://www.africamasterweb.com/AdSense/NigerianMilitantsVowRevenge.html

or are we talking about sending military personnel to intimidate civilians as stopping militants

Ateke Tom
Asari Dokubo,
etc where all operating freely during OBJ's tenure
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by anointedf(m): 12:56pm On Jul 07, 2011
OBJ no get time for all these roforofo wey JONA dey do. Come make we negotiate, come take amnesty, come make, All what these guys need is pure arm confrontation.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by arogbangba: 12:56pm On Jul 07, 2011
with due respect to peoples opinion. i guess it is high time Mr President should act with all visible power that was conferred on him and orders the noble nigerian army to wipe out this sect '' terrorist'' out of our nation. if an entire state is wiped out to protect the federated states of 35,i dont see it as a bad option. politics should not be mixed with religion. the so called boko haram'' western education is haram''!! where do they get the knowledge to even read and understand the holy quran if they dont acquire knowledge through seeking education? why do they transport themselves using either trains or cars? why not decide to walk from maiduguri to somalia and afghanistan if knowledge seeked from education is useless? they must be crushe and wipe out with force now before this so called stupendous brothers of the northern region takes us back into primitive and stone age, mad people with cow brains, GEJ must order the army to shell them down with all their political sponsorers within and outside nigeria as OBJ crushed ODI uprising.
they have killed our armies and have declare war on the sovereignity of our beloved nation
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by iz2much: 12:59pm On Jul 07, 2011
@agitator
we know what the Niger Delta are fighting for.
and are they killing people?
you should ask yourself those questions before coming here and start saying things you dont even understand.
OBJ is the man. people said the man is bad and corrupt. i dont care. am sure things like this wont have came up become this bad. do you even have any family in the North at all?
you sit down saying asari
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by executinal(m): 1:07pm On Jul 07, 2011
BOKO HARAM AND MEND Operate on different mission, simple, why did it take US so long to trap Osama? Even OBJ or ABACHA nothing they will do better than what we are seen,
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by BetaThings: 1:08pm On Jul 07, 2011
Is this because the man (Nwanyanwu) Labour Party man did not get a ministerial appointment?
Would he have said this about Jonathan if he were awaiting screening at the senate?
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by bisiaet: 1:19pm On Jul 07, 2011
Now people know the important of OBJ isnit? Obj is no more a clown again, he is no more to be kill again isnit, Obj is nore a devil again isnit Nice one reality is showing up bit by bit> I dey laugh.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Mobinga: 1:21pm On Jul 07, 2011
























Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Ericology(m): 1:29pm On Jul 07, 2011
U guys are really really funny, OBJ was only ruthless and daring when dealing with problems in the South or middle belt but never in the far North, What did he do when Sharia crisis and Miss world riots broke out in the north, When they denied us the pleasure of hosting miss world?
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by agitator: 1:36pm On Jul 07, 2011
Ericology:

U guys are really really funny, OBJ was only ruthless and daring when dealing with problems in the South or middle belt but never in the far North, What did he do when Sharia crisis and Miss world riots broke out in the north, When they denied us the pleasure of hosting miss world?

Don't mind them, there is nothing you can say or evidence proof you can provide that will silence these set of people. Yet they want changes, what happened to Ngige for going against the powers that be. the people he was trying to protect are the same ones the cabal or whatever you used to remove him. The knew he couldn't win any governorship election again that was why he opted for senate.

Nigerians are always hypocritical. See churches everywhere and there is corruption everywhere from civil servants, contractors, community representatives, chiefs to political appointees. When somebody lost out he will start spewing rubbish, and the gullible people will support him.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by onwunaeme: 2:04pm On Jul 07, 2011
I think GEJ is beginning to fail because He has lacked "effort "to stop this useless thing called Boko Haram. Instead he want to solve the sect problem with carrot and stick method , but my question is what is the possibility that other tiny sect will not come up with their own shooting and bombing of innocent people and churches? GEJ , mine suggestion should bound the use of okada in any northern part of the country and to shoot at sight of any boko haram sect or suspect. To all these good for nothing Boko Haram Sect God said i should tell you stop because you do not know who you are worshipping.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by awuf2008: 2:17pm On Jul 07, 2011
It is unfortunate Obj is not at the helm of affairs presently. But to be frank, Obj is d solution to Bokoharam Hula Balu.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by NegroNtns(m): 2:19pm On Jul 07, 2011
First, Gej should not have called out the Army to command a JTF to combat BH.

The Federal Police, regular and mobile units together, have more capabilities and arsenal for fighting and controlling urban guerilla attacks.

You don't engage a National Army in a domestic situation such as BH. National Army is for protection of sovereingty from external attack or an internal secession.

Moreover, a state of emergency has not been declared, so the involvement of Army is premature and uncalled for.

Whoever is our Commander-In-Chief of The Armed Forces is not employing security resources effectively and efficiently.

More important, the only time a military unit should be deployed is when the policy is aimed at a firearm confrontation with the target.

Once boots are on the ground all negotiation for political ending should be suspended until the Army has had time to flex its muscle and force the target to beg for a negotiation deal.

The enemy, and not Gej, should be the one demanding a deal. It is not in the Country's best interest to donate amnesty relief. The criminal has a lesson to learn and the vices of death must be tightened sufficiently enough that the reality of his error is registered in him and is forced to repent and beg for the relief.

I hope Senior military officers do not loose their cool with Gej's handling of this matter.

The more their guys in the field take casualty and fatality hit the eager they will be to quickly wrap the mission up. If it drags too long Gej's administration will loose focus and become unpopular, even among die-hard supporters. The weakness will be a vulnerability that can easily be exploited, not just domestically but even internationally.

We are lucky we don't have over ambitious Countries for neighbours.

The flow of resource for BH is coming from supporters of APC in both Sudan and Chad.
If the situation is prolonged and BH continues to thrive, it will be seen as a money making enterprise and may draw further recruitment from freshly displaced fighters from Libya to join with BH. With increased number and successes in fulfilling threaths, their opponents in the North will be cowered to fall in line and oppose the Federal Goverment, in which case they will want a claim to Abuja territory.

If this situation is not handled with speed, the fallouts in different quarters will crack and split the country faster than we are psychologically prepared for the end.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jul 07, 2011
OBJ would've done nothing positive too. He couldn't stop or reduce militancy or kidnapping. In fact, it was during his tenure ND Militants had the audacity to showcase and unleash their violence towards the people.
As the army rightly stated, the tactics of these BH guys are quite strange. I believe this is the first time we are witnessing suicide bombing in (Northern?)Nigeria. So this is also strange and uncommon to our in-equipped and below standard security agencies.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by russellino: 2:45pm On Jul 07, 2011
Obj has the iron will to get stuff done without looking at faces. GEJ is plain scared to move all out on BH and the people behind them. they have been training bomb makers and stockpiling top grade weapons for years. Does anyone remember the 13 containers filled with rocket launchers, assault rifles etc intercepted at the ports in october last year?

All we hear is ''we know who they are'', ''we will catch them''. GEJ based on his record so far, has no will of his own
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by shawonlese: 3:01pm On Jul 07, 2011
Negro_Ntns:

First, Gej should not have called out the Army to command a JTF to combat BH.

The Federal Police, regular and mobile units together, have more capabilities and arsenal for fighting and controlling urban guerilla attacks.

You don't engage a National Army in a domestic situation such as BH. National Army is for protection of sovereingty from external attack or an internal secession.

Moreover, a state of emergency has not been declared, so the involvement of Army is premature and uncalled for.

Whoever is our Commander-In-Chief of The Armed Forces is not employing security resources effectively and efficiently.

More important, the only time a military unit should be deployed is when the policy is aimed at a firearm confrontation with the target.

Once boots are on the ground all negotiation for political ending should be suspended until the Army has had time to flex its muscle and force the target to beg for a negotiation deal.

The enemy, and not Gej, should be the one demanding a deal. It is not in the Country's best interest to donate amnesty relief. The criminal has a lesson to learn and the vices of death must be tightened sufficiently enough that the reality of his error is registered in him and is forced to repent and beg for the relief.

I hope Senior military officers do not loose their cool with Gej's handling of this matter.

The more their guys in the field take casualty and fatality hit the eager they will be to quickly wrap the mission up. If it drags too long Gej's administration will loose focus and become unpopular, even among die-hard supporters. The weakness will be a vulnerability that can easily be exploited, not just domestically but even internationally.

We are lucky we don't have over ambitious Countries for neighbours.

The flow of resource for BH is coming from supporters of APC in both Sudan and Chad.
If the situation is prolonged and BH continues to thrive, it will be seen as a money making enterprise and may draw further recruitment from freshly displaced fighters from Libya to join with BH. With increased number and successes in fulfilling threaths, their opponents in the North will be cowered to fall in line and oppose the Federal Goverment, in which case they will want a claim to Abuja territory.

If this situation is not handled with speed, the fallouts in different quarters will crack and split the country faster than we are psychologically prepared for the end.

I don't think or believe the flow of money is coming from supporter of APC.

Some people had earlier mentioned that if you make peaceful change impossible, you make violent change inevitable. These people may be indirectly funding BH. Those who were angered by GEJ's decision to vie for the post may also be indirectly funding BH.


Nothing happens in Nigeria, until someone prominent is attacked. Case study was the issue of armed robbery during OBJ's tenure. Until his daughter was shot at, that was when he decided to take action.
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by mallorca(m): 3:08pm On Jul 07, 2011
hate him or like him, OBJ is the best Nigeria president ever
Re: Obj Would Have (decisively)crushed Bokoharam - Labour Party by Danni2: 3:35pm On Jul 07, 2011
Obasanjo could only take 'decisive' action against a 'christian' dominated area, NOT 'muslim' dominated. Why did Obasanjo not take 'decisive' action during the 'sharia' riot in Kano and Kaduna? It took a muslim president (Musa Yar'Adua, God bless his soul) to take a 'decisive' action. Nigeria is too polarized along religious lines for any president to take a 'decisive' action without considering the 'religio-political' consequences. I like the approach of GEJ. Caution is needed at this time more than ever. At the right time, a 'decisive' action can be taken if necessary.

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